WEBVTT - TNC Review: Coffee Sachets & Cans 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.000 Now, anyone who has listened to The Nutrition Couch before 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:06.600 will know that LeeAnne and I are rather big coffee fans, 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.360 especially Leanne now she has a seven week old baby girl. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.520 Me uh, Coffee. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.560 In this day and age comes in many different varieties. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.480 You can find it in supermarkets, you can pick it 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.360 up at all the takeaways, or you can be making 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.240 your own. So today we wanted to chat through two 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.960 different supermarket coffee options in case a daily trip to 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.680 the coffee shop doesn't fit into your schedule or your budget. Hi, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.160 I'm Susie Burrell and I'm Leanne Hood and we bring 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.000 you the Nutrition Couch, a bi weekly chat on everything 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.280 that you can find in the supermarket. And I have 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.600 to say, Leanne, coffee would go pretty close to be 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.720 my favorite thing in the whole world. And I would 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.159 even admit that to my family. There is nothing I 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.199 enjoy more in my life than my daily coffee. And 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.760 I have a feeling from your post that you're pretty similar, 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.480 especially at the moment, I very much. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.160 Am and I was saying I haven't actually had my 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.280 coffee this one before I dropped on this podcast, and 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:00.680 I am struggling. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.480 I can't even believe you rocked up with this. I 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.160 would literally not be able to do that, so it 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.520 hats off to you. But we have you know, I 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:08.960 know a lot of people go to the coffee shop 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.520 and indeed my daily trip to get my latte is 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.479 a big part of my day. But not everyone can 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.160 do that, and certainly there are a number of supermarket 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.760 options which are actually great tasting and growing. So there's 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.680 a whole group of us who like convenience or even 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.600 the cost effectiveness of coffee. So we've chosen two different 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.040 products today, and there's different varieties in each of these ranges, 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.399 but you'll get the gist. Even though I've picked, for example, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.560 this one's the next cafe cappuccino pre mixes which come 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:36.360 in the sachets. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.720 Now there's latte. There's a million different ones. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.280 So I didn't choose cappuccino for any other reason that 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.720 I thought it was pretty common. What we're going to 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.920 describe is pretty similar, no matter which whether you choose 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:49.600 latte or any of them. If you look there, but 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.120 they're pretty similar. So if I go through the ingredients 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.000 of the sachet, the first ingredient is milk solids. Then 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.120 it's eighteen I put my eyes is so bad. I 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.640 thought it was thirteen eighteen percent coffee, vegetable oil, sugar, glucose, syrup, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.960 multiedextro flavor and stabilizers. And then the little chocolate shaker 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.640 that you also get has sugar, cocoa, multifiers, flavors. But 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.919 that's really small part is if you've used them. That's 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.680 a tiny part. Compared to the actual sashet now per sashet, 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.360 which is twelve point five grams, it comes in at 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.119 two hundred and ten kilodules as in a gram of protein, 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.680 almost two grams of fat, one point six saturated, eight 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.880 point seven grams of carb, four point six grams of sugars, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.600 and seventy five milligrams of sodium. So if we compare 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.000 that leand to the cappuccino that you would get from 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.239 the local cafe, not skim. If I'd just say a 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.880 regular cappuccino, you'd be looking at about oh four. I 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.560 would sort of say it's sort of four hundred three 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.440 twenty to four hundred, between eighty kilodeels and one hundred 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.679 depending on the size. You're probably getting what three four 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.720 up to five grams of protein from the milk and 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.320 a cappuccino, and you'd be getting less than ten grams 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.480 of carbohydrate overall, keeping in mind that it doesn't have 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.160 as much milk as a latte does, so certainly these 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:10.320 are slightly lower in calories. You would like the sugars 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.680 in this form, you're getting some added sugar from it 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.440 compared to a cappuccino, which is the naturally occurring milk sugars. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.080 And you know, I have to say I don't have 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.920 overly strong opinions on this product because on one hand, 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.280 you would say, well, it's more process than a coffee 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.040 that you buy from the store. We don't have a 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:33.080 caffeine measure on this, so a shot of espresso coffee 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.160 that you'd find in a cappuccino is got one hundred 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.680 milligrams of caffeine. I don't know what the caffeine rating 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.720 of these are. I don't know even if it's similar 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.640 or not. Maybe you know that leand. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:43.880 No, they don't listen at all, and I've tried to 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.800 look it up multiple times, and that's sort of It 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:47.520 is a bit of a problem because I've had some 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.560 clients who are wanting to get pregnant or in their 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.520 fertility get journey. So actually looking at caffeine content is important. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.560 But I've looked on the website. It just doesn't listen 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.640 to caffeine content. So I imagine that it's low, but 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.400 that's that's not really based on anything. So I think 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.000 just if you are caffeine sens it it'd be a 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:05.640 little bit wary. 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.040 Well, I think it would be low. First of all, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.640 I'm surprised that i't list it. That's fascinating to me. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:12.800 But I think it would be low because if I 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.240 work backwards, so as I said, a shot of espressos 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.839 about one hundred milligrams of caffeine. My memory of instant 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.400 coffee is that a tea spoon of instant coffee is 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:22.960 about fifty milligrams. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.279 Does that sound right to you? 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.000 I think between forty and sixty yep, yep. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.880 So that's sort of half an espresso shot. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.880 Now, if this is only eighteen percent soluble coffee, and 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.200 say that's looking at twelve point five grams, so that's 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.320 say twenty percent of that, we're looking at maybe two 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:43.920 point five to three grams of coffee itself. That's low 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.040 because say, if you're looking at a teaspoon, you're getting fifty, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.839 So I'd say it would be thirty milligrams or less. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.760 That's what I would roughly calculate it to be, so 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:54.160 just a. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.479 Bit more than a black tea or like an English 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.960 breakfast tee or so I think that's around about twenty milligrams, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.320 so maybe a little bit more than yeah, a standard 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:02.039 cup of black tea. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.400 That's just my very rough calculation, so nowhere near equivalent 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.280 to the cappuccino that you would buy a coffee shop. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.400 And I think these packets can be a little bit misleading. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.520 Because, let's be honest, it's the service twelve point five grams, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.560 and that's less than a tablespoon of weight. So even 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.039 though when we look at the ingredient list, we say, right, 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.480 it's got milk, coffee or hang on, it's got vegetable oil, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.360 it's got sugar, it's got gluecose, the amounts of going 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.080 to be very small, very very small. So I sort 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.240 of am like, well, yes, it's probably better to have 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.080 the real thing. If you're looking for a caffeine hit. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.719 There are far better options than using this. Is it 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.240 going to cause any drama? Not really, It's not really 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.080 going to affect much in your day. I wouldn't be 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.120 having four a day if you had one, because it 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.400 is processed. I know in this range there is a 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.920 skim milk cappuccino variety which will be a little bit 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.680 lower in fat. Again, I know there's latter. I know 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.000 there's oat milk variety. So I would just pay attention 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.279 to how much added sugar was going into some of these, 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.960 because you will be getting some sugars from the milk 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.000 in this which is contributed to that four point six 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.840 grams versus if you're looking at something like an oat 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.080 milk or almond milk version, it's probably more added sugar. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.520 But again, in the grand scheme. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.080 Of things, it's pretty low, pretty insignificant, not going to 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:13.880 harm you. And if that's sort of something you enjoy 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.680 at the end of the day for sixty calories, I 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.240 wouldn't be the least bit concerned. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:18.920 What do you think? 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.120 I agree, I'm I don't mind them. I'm not gonna 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:22.640 say I love them my favorite things in the world, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.960 but I have definitely drunk them in the past. I 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.760 think they're very affordable. I mean, at the moment I'm 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.039 looking at Wilwars online, Susie and you can get the 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.479 box of ten cappuccino sachets for three dollars fifteen. It's 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.640 like thirty cents a sachet. So when you're comparing it 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.440 to a cafe based coffee, which is you know, four 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.480 or five six dollars to keep you getting your arm 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.440 and milks and your oat milks in your double shots 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.960 and whatnot, you're get in charge more. It is very, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.400 very affordable, and as you said, in the grand scheme 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.880 of things, it's such a small amount that even the 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.600 opal the saturated fat content is one point six grams. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.200 It's a really really minimal amount. The sugar is a 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.640 minimal amount. So yes, they are a bit processed, but 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.680 I'm absolutely fine with these. I think they're a good 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.160 option for a lot of people. They're very affordable. As 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.479 you said, they don't really give you much of a 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.160 caffeine hit. If I was to have one, I'd probably 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.800 put it an extra teaspoon of you know, instant coffee 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.440 pabit in there. But I do have a lot of 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.520 clients who use them, Susie A because they are a 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.480 little bit more caffeine sensitive, so they like these. Compared 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.560 to a coffee shop cafee coffee shop coffee, and also 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.680 it's something it's just like a nice warming drink that 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.680 sort of gets them through over morning tea or over 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.640 afternoon tea. So I do have a lot of my 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.600 clients who use these, and I'm more than happy to 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.760 sort of allow them to do that, because, as you said, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.720 it is a really low calorie sort of drink. But 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.280 if you are, you know, they are made to be 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.640 you know, made up on just basically hot water. You're 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.520 not supposed to add anything extra into it. So if 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:39.040 you are adding an extra sugars, extra milk to you know, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.920 make it a bit colder so it's not as hot 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.840 as well, that will obviously contribute to more calories as well, 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.400 but just made on plain hot water. I actually think 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.280 it's not a bad option, Susie. I think for a 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.760 lot of people it can work really well. But as 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.520 you said, it's it's very low caffeine, So if you 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.680 are needing two, three, four of these a day to 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.720 get your caffeine hit, you probably want to go to 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:58.280 something else. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.840 And I think if you did prefer it with milk, 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.160 I would certainly be suggesting a skim milk to keep 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.280 the fat low overall, and once you're doing that, you're 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.120 sort of coming into more of a substantial snack. So 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.600 if you wanted to have this as a morning or 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.120 afternoon tea with milk, that would be where that would fit, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.720 because then you're getting closer to twenty grams of carbohydrate. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.520 You're getting close to ten grams of protein probably for 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.240 another hundred calories or so, so it's still calorie controlled. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.720 So that would then fit that bracket of a snack 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.480 with some protein in it, or I would say just 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.640 be mindful. I do have some clients who might see 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.200 this as a free food and then have several per day, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.600 and certainly that's not what we would suggest because it 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.920 does have some added sugars to it, So I would 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.040 suggest keeping it with a meal or with a snack 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:38.079 rather than thinking. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:38.760 It's a free food. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.080 But I'm with you, certainly, I think that if you 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:42.680 enjoy the flavor and it's something that gives you a 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.560 hit and stops you going and having something much sweeter 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.440 or grabbing some chocolate through the day, it's a really 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.840 good choice. And as I said, there's many different varieties 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.880 out there. You can get a low fat variety, you 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.480 can get the oat, the almond and I would just 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.480 be keeping the sugars as low as you can when 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.920 you're selecting from those different varieties. Okay, well, the other 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.840 one I pick, so I could have gone and done 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:02.920 another one. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:03.440 Of these sachets. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.800 But actually what I'm particularly interested in, Leanne is the 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:11.679 growing range of the pre made cans of coffee. Now 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.520 these are very different nutritionally to the sachets we've just described. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.560 These are generally available in the cold section, both with 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.120 the dairy at the back of the supermarket, but also 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.560 on the way out as the quick pickup. So I've 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.839 chosen the Boss variety of ice latte. Now there's more 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.400 and more. I think Little Creatures is another one. I 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.320 know they're very popular in Japan, these coffeees, and they've 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.199 had coffee vending machines for a long time. They're quite small, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.680 it's two hundred and thirty seven meal, so it's that 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.760 smaller can size that we also see in soft drink. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.520 And if we look perserving, the calories are still pretty low. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.120 Coming in at my eyes are so badly in sixty 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.000 just over sixty calories, also fifty two calories and two 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.960 hundred and eighteen kilo duels one point four grams of 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.760 protein even though this is a latte, so that's suggesting 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.120 that it doesn't have a huge amount of milk in it. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.960 One point two grams of fat, so very low in 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:08.200 both total fat and saturated fat, nine grams of carbohydrate, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.240 and six point three grams of sugars, so if we 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.319 were comparing that to a regular latte, it's lower than that. Again, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.559 so a regular small late would be about one hundred 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:22.480 calories and about ten grams of protein and are slightly 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:23.880 more sugars overall. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.880 So the interesting thing with these. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.959 Now, this one doesn't actually state the caffeine amount on 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.640 that label, but most of them are much higher in caffeine. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.880 So these ingredients are a brood coffee coming in first, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.000 So unlike the sachet, which is a milk based drink 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.800 with a little bit of coffee through it, this has 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:46.360 actually got a much higher concentration of briod coffee, water, milk, coffee, 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.600 extra sugar, milk solid and regulators to keep it stable. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.679 And a sweetener, so this is using actually an artificial 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.240 sweetener to give it its flavor along with sugar. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.880 It's a is it what sweetener. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.199 Is that it doesn't list to sweetener. But I'm just 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.440 saying it uses a sweetener along with sugar, so they've 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.240 added both in there, so they've sort of kept the 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.320 overall It tastes very sweet when you drink it, but 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.559 they've kept the overall amount of sugar down by adding 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.080 in a little bit of sweetener as well. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:16.240 It's an artificial sweetener. Yeah, this is an acis sulfamine potassium, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.240 so similar to what we'd find in diet coke or 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.480 coke zero. So they're not using a natural sweetener at 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.559 the moment in this brand. So that's something to pay 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.520 attention to because I would definitely be preferring a natural 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:31.160 sweetener in products like this. So there's in this there's 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.760 a long black variety that is slaste. There's also some 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.880 of them are quite high in sugars. So what I 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.840 would suggest, first of all, they're definitely Have you tried one, man. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.559 I have. They're very strong, so, as you said, I'm 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.720 quite surprised. I actually don't list the amount of coffee 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.000 or caffeine in there, because I remember taking a sip 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.360 and being like, oh wow, I actually find them very strong. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.360 And I first, as you mentioned, tried these when I 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.360 was in Japan. It's it's all who ranged these, you know, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.800 coffees in a can. And this brand, the Boss Coffee, 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.960 is actually local from Japan and been imported from Japan 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.080 as well, so they're actually they're a lot stronger than 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.559 the next cafe hot sachets. And also in terms of 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.160 the cost SUSI, they're a lot more expensive. So they're 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.160 three dollars fifteen. That's un sale at Woolwast. They're normally 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.520 three dollars sixty five for one can versus, as we said, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.360 the next cafe sachet. If youre getting them half price, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.720 there only thirty cents full price, they're sixty cents, So 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.520 sixty cents for one compared to three dollars sixty five 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.600 for a can of coffee. There's a substantial price difference, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.800 but there's also substantial caffeine difference just from the taste 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.000 of it as well. So again just be a little 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.880 bit wary if you are caffeine sensity. Well, if you 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.480 are pregnant or breastfeeding, we'll have another condition that caffeine 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.679 does seem to effect us. Be a little bit more 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:43.560 wary with this brand as well, because it brewed coffee 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:44.400 is the top ingredient. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.720 I was sure they always listed the caffeine. I am 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.400 sure they've lifted the caffeine before, but I'm just looking 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.680 on website that don't have it either. I would say 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.360 I would say they've got at least fifty milligrams. That 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:56.400 would be my estimate. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.920 I'd say potentially even a little bit more, if not 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.440 closer to I mean brood coffee is the top ingredient. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.560 Yeah, one, just with the concentration. Now, there's such a 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.520 wide range of them. First of all, they're expensive. As 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.040 you say, they sell out in my local supermarket every week, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.760 so I think that they're incredibly popular, and hence we're 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.320 seeing more and more of them. Certainly, I would be 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.679 opting for a variety that didn't have an artificial sweeter. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.480 And the reason I say that is that I find 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.920 those drinks in general tend to prime you to want 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.280 more sweet food, so I would be mindful of that, 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.160 and I would certainly be looking and look for the 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.200 ones that contain as little added sugar as possible, because 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.679 some of them have up to twenty grams of sugars perserve, 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.480 which is more than you would get from a supermarket, sorry, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:40.800 a cafe coffee. So they're a really interesting product because 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:46.160 they're obviously selling going crazy. They're reasonably low in calories, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.280 but you're certainly going to get a stimulatary effect and 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.920 even some sugar from that without the protein that you 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.559 would get from a milk based coffee. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.679 And there's a lot of varieties for people who want 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:55.800 to avoid dairy. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.400 There's a number of oat varieties, black varieties that don't 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.240 contain any milk, So that gives people who are opting 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.439 to move away from dairy the option in a caffeinated drink. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.240 So you know, if I was honest. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.440 With you, leanne particularly for the cost, I would be 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.280 more tempted if I like to call coffee to put 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.720 some concentrated coffee, if I had an espresso machine at home, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.840 or even just some instant coffee and mix it and 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.440 make a nice coffee myself, even with some skim milk, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.200 because that's a much cleaner product. You know exactly what's 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.200 gone into it, you're not using sweetness, and you can 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.560 control the milk or whichever you want to add to it. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.160 So I certainly don't recommend them. I think they're expensive. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.200 I think that if you like them, i'd definitely be 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.720 opting for one that didn't have the added sugars in 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:41.520 it and just check the. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.080 Labels, but they will. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.480 They're quite a shot of coffee, I would say, so, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.040 at least fifty milligrams. I reckon up to about eighty. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.640 If we think about what's in a red bull that 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.480 can so as they get them up to about eighty, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.400 so I'd estimate they've got between fifty and eighty milligrams 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:55.680 of caffeine perserve. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.120 Actually, I don't mind them, Susie, And I mean, I 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.760 know we say they're expensive, but when you think about 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.760 it grand scheme of things, a cafe shop coffee is 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.040 actually expensive. You know, they're five six dollars we're paying 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.760 for our lattes or our cappuccinos versus this is only 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.080 three sixty. So, I mean, when you think about it, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.480 they're expensive compared to the next cafe sachets. But when 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.000 we think about it compared to our regular coffee shop 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.520 that we go to every day, Susie, they're probably a 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.480 little bit more affordable. So from a price perspective, you 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.360 may think that they're more affordable, or you may think 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.920 that they're more expensive. We'll leave that one up to you, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.120 but I don't mind them. Again, I'd be happy to 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.960 recommend something like this for my clients. And in the 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.880 grand scheme of things, I think the sugar is quite low, 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.880 but as you said, you're not getting the good whack 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.000 of protein that we would get if you were making 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.000 your own at home based on a cup of skim 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.200 milk or getting your own from the coffee shop, which 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.080 is based on generally half to one cup of milk 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.000 as well. So the protein is quite low. But if 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.480 you're really just doing it for the caffeine hit, and 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.600 you know you're getting little bit of sweetness out of 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.680 it as well, I don't really see a problem recommending these. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.520 I think it can be a nice sort of little 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.160 treat for a lot of people. And as you said, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.360 they are very popular. They're sort of becoming all the 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.960 rage as is you know, sort of cold press type 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.320 coffee as well. So I definitely don't see a problem 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.760 with it. But I would sort of keep an eye 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.600 on your overall caffeine intake throughout the day because it 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.440 does you know, caffeine has a half life of about 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.720 six hours, so if you're having any sort of caffeine 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.320 past about three four five o'clock in the afternoon and 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.400 you're having problems sleeping at nighttime, you're probably overdoing your 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.600 amount of caffeine, So just keep an eye on that. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.600 And caffeine for some people does tend to make them 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.040 a little bit more jittery, a little bit more anxious, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.360 gives them sort of heart palpitation, So just keep an 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.680 eye on your amount of caffeine each day. I think 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.120 it's just an important take home message. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.560 Because they're quite small, like two just under two fifty 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.720 mili for three bucks. Ye, I think that's quite expensive. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.920 When you're not in that one, you're not really getting 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.400 the benefit of dairy and the protein, so you're literally 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.080 paying for just the coffee and water. I'm just looking 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.120 at a different one that's in supermarket which has forty 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.360 percent whole milk, and that's coming in at twelve point 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.560 six grams of sugars, which will be coming from some 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.040 of the milk, but it's also got added sugar. So 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.720 I think my recommendation would be to clients that if 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.560 you're enjoying them all like them, it's convenience, really seek 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.680 out the why that are much lower in sugars, because 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.560 basically you're adding more sugars into your diet that you 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.359 wouldn't normally be having. And it's quite a small serve, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.800 like two thirty meal like that's tiny. That's a very 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.320 small coffee at the coffee shop for three dollars plus. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.680 So yeah, I wouldn't they wouldn't be in my budget, 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.040 but I could work them in if I had two 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:18.800 with my clients. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.280 Yeah, David really likes someonees. We buy another brand where 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.840 it's straight. It's cold breast coffee in a can. Basically 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.200 it's incredibly strong. I pop one can one day and 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:27.720