1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Now, anyone who has listened to The Nutrition Couch before 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: will know that LeeAnne and I are rather big coffee fans, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: especially Leanne now she has a seven week old baby girl. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Me uh, Coffee. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: In this day and age comes in many different varieties. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: You can find it in supermarkets, you can pick it 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: up at all the takeaways, or you can be making 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: your own. So today we wanted to chat through two 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: different supermarket coffee options in case a daily trip to 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the coffee shop doesn't fit into your schedule or your budget. Hi, 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm Susie Burrell and I'm Leanne Hood and we bring 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: you the Nutrition Couch, a bi weekly chat on everything 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: that you can find in the supermarket. And I have 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: to say, Leanne, coffee would go pretty close to be 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: my favorite thing in the whole world. And I would 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: even admit that to my family. There is nothing I 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: enjoy more in my life than my daily coffee. And 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I have a feeling from your post that you're pretty similar, 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: especially at the moment, I very much. 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: Am and I was saying I haven't actually had my 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: coffee this one before I dropped on this podcast, and 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: I am struggling. 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: I can't even believe you rocked up with this. I 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: would literally not be able to do that, so it 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: hats off to you. But we have you know, I 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: know a lot of people go to the coffee shop 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: and indeed my daily trip to get my latte is 28 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: a big part of my day. But not everyone can 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: do that, and certainly there are a number of supermarket 30 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: options which are actually great tasting and growing. So there's 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: a whole group of us who like convenience or even 32 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: the cost effectiveness of coffee. So we've chosen two different 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: products today, and there's different varieties in each of these ranges, 34 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: but you'll get the gist. Even though I've picked, for example, 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: this one's the next cafe cappuccino pre mixes which come 36 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: in the sachets. 37 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: Now there's latte. There's a million different ones. 38 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: So I didn't choose cappuccino for any other reason that 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty common. What we're going to 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: describe is pretty similar, no matter which whether you choose 41 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: latte or any of them. If you look there, but 42 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: they're pretty similar. So if I go through the ingredients 43 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: of the sachet, the first ingredient is milk solids. Then 44 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: it's eighteen I put my eyes is so bad. I 45 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: thought it was thirteen eighteen percent coffee, vegetable oil, sugar, glucose, syrup, 46 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: multiedextro flavor and stabilizers. And then the little chocolate shaker 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: that you also get has sugar, cocoa, multifiers, flavors. But 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: that's really small part is if you've used them. That's 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: a tiny part. Compared to the actual sashet now per sashet, 50 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: which is twelve point five grams, it comes in at 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: two hundred and ten kilodules as in a gram of protein, 52 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: almost two grams of fat, one point six saturated, eight 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: point seven grams of carb, four point six grams of sugars, 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: and seventy five milligrams of sodium. So if we compare 55 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: that leand to the cappuccino that you would get from 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: the local cafe, not skim. If I'd just say a 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: regular cappuccino, you'd be looking at about oh four. I 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: would sort of say it's sort of four hundred three 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: twenty to four hundred, between eighty kilodeels and one hundred 60 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: depending on the size. You're probably getting what three four 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: up to five grams of protein from the milk and 62 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: a cappuccino, and you'd be getting less than ten grams 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: of carbohydrate overall, keeping in mind that it doesn't have 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: as much milk as a latte does, so certainly these 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: are slightly lower in calories. You would like the sugars 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: in this form, you're getting some added sugar from it 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: compared to a cappuccino, which is the naturally occurring milk sugars. 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I have to say I don't have 69 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: overly strong opinions on this product because on one hand, 70 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: you would say, well, it's more process than a coffee 71 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: that you buy from the store. We don't have a 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: caffeine measure on this, so a shot of espresso coffee 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: that you'd find in a cappuccino is got one hundred 74 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: milligrams of caffeine. I don't know what the caffeine rating 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: of these are. I don't know even if it's similar 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: or not. Maybe you know that leand. 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: No, they don't listen at all, and I've tried to 78 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: look it up multiple times, and that's sort of It 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: is a bit of a problem because I've had some 80 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: clients who are wanting to get pregnant or in their 81 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: fertility get journey. So actually looking at caffeine content is important. 82 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: But I've looked on the website. It just doesn't listen 83 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: to caffeine content. So I imagine that it's low, but 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: that's that's not really based on anything. So I think 85 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: just if you are caffeine sens it it'd be a 86 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: little bit wary. 87 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think it would be low. First of all, 88 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that i't list it. That's fascinating to me. 89 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: But I think it would be low because if I 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: work backwards, so as I said, a shot of espressos 91 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: about one hundred milligrams of caffeine. My memory of instant 92 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: coffee is that a tea spoon of instant coffee is 93 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: about fifty milligrams. 94 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: Does that sound right to you? 95 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: I think between forty and sixty yep, yep. 96 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: So that's sort of half an espresso shot. 97 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Now, if this is only eighteen percent soluble coffee, and 98 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: say that's looking at twelve point five grams, so that's 99 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: say twenty percent of that, we're looking at maybe two 100 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: point five to three grams of coffee itself. That's low 101 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: because say, if you're looking at a teaspoon, you're getting fifty, 102 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: So I'd say it would be thirty milligrams or less. 103 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: That's what I would roughly calculate it to be, so 104 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: just a. 105 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 3: Bit more than a black tea or like an English 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: breakfast tee or so I think that's around about twenty milligrams, 107 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: so maybe a little bit more than yeah, a standard 108 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: cup of black tea. 109 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: That's just my very rough calculation, so nowhere near equivalent 110 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: to the cappuccino that you would buy a coffee shop. 111 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: And I think these packets can be a little bit misleading. 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: Because, let's be honest, it's the service twelve point five grams, 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: and that's less than a tablespoon of weight. So even 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: though when we look at the ingredient list, we say, right, 115 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: it's got milk, coffee or hang on, it's got vegetable oil, 116 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: it's got sugar, it's got gluecose, the amounts of going 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: to be very small, very very small. So I sort 118 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: of am like, well, yes, it's probably better to have 119 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: the real thing. If you're looking for a caffeine hit. 120 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: There are far better options than using this. Is it 121 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: going to cause any drama? Not really, It's not really 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: going to affect much in your day. I wouldn't be 123 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: having four a day if you had one, because it 124 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: is processed. I know in this range there is a 125 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: skim milk cappuccino variety which will be a little bit 126 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: lower in fat. Again, I know there's latter. I know 127 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: there's oat milk variety. So I would just pay attention 128 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: to how much added sugar was going into some of these, 129 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: because you will be getting some sugars from the milk 130 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: in this which is contributed to that four point six 131 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: grams versus if you're looking at something like an oat 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: milk or almond milk version, it's probably more added sugar. 133 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: But again, in the grand scheme. 134 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Of things, it's pretty low, pretty insignificant, not going to 135 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: harm you. And if that's sort of something you enjoy 136 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day for sixty calories, I 137 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the least bit concerned. 138 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: What do you think? 139 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: I agree, I'm I don't mind them. I'm not gonna 140 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: say I love them my favorite things in the world, 141 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: but I have definitely drunk them in the past. I 142 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: think they're very affordable. I mean, at the moment I'm 143 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: looking at Wilwars online, Susie and you can get the 144 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: box of ten cappuccino sachets for three dollars fifteen. It's 145 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: like thirty cents a sachet. So when you're comparing it 146 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: to a cafe based coffee, which is you know, four 147 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: or five six dollars to keep you getting your arm 148 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: and milks and your oat milks in your double shots 149 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: and whatnot, you're get in charge more. It is very, 150 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: very affordable, and as you said, in the grand scheme 151 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: of things, it's such a small amount that even the 152 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: opal the saturated fat content is one point six grams. 153 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: It's a really really minimal amount. The sugar is a 154 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: minimal amount. So yes, they are a bit processed, but 155 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm absolutely fine with these. I think they're a good 156 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: option for a lot of people. They're very affordable. As 157 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: you said, they don't really give you much of a 158 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: caffeine hit. If I was to have one, I'd probably 159 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: put it an extra teaspoon of you know, instant coffee 160 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: pabit in there. But I do have a lot of 161 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: clients who use them, Susie A because they are a 162 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: little bit more caffeine sensitive, so they like these. Compared 163 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: to a coffee shop cafee coffee shop coffee, and also 164 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: it's something it's just like a nice warming drink that 165 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: sort of gets them through over morning tea or over 166 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: afternoon tea. So I do have a lot of my 167 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: clients who use these, and I'm more than happy to 168 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: sort of allow them to do that, because, as you said, 169 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: it is a really low calorie sort of drink. But 170 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: if you are, you know, they are made to be 171 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: you know, made up on just basically hot water. You're 172 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: not supposed to add anything extra into it. So if 173 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: you are adding an extra sugars, extra milk to you know, 174 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: make it a bit colder so it's not as hot 175 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: as well, that will obviously contribute to more calories as well, 176 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: but just made on plain hot water. I actually think 177 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: it's not a bad option, Susie. I think for a 178 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: lot of people it can work really well. But as 179 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: you said, it's it's very low caffeine, So if you 180 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: are needing two, three, four of these a day to 181 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: get your caffeine hit, you probably want to go to 182 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: something else. 183 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: And I think if you did prefer it with milk, 184 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: I would certainly be suggesting a skim milk to keep 185 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: the fat low overall, and once you're doing that, you're 186 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: sort of coming into more of a substantial snack. So 187 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: if you wanted to have this as a morning or 188 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: afternoon tea with milk, that would be where that would fit, 189 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: because then you're getting closer to twenty grams of carbohydrate. 190 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: You're getting close to ten grams of protein probably for 191 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: another hundred calories or so, so it's still calorie controlled. 192 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: So that would then fit that bracket of a snack 193 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: with some protein in it, or I would say just 194 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: be mindful. I do have some clients who might see 195 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: this as a free food and then have several per day, 196 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: and certainly that's not what we would suggest because it 197 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: does have some added sugars to it, So I would 198 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: suggest keeping it with a meal or with a snack 199 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: rather than thinking. 200 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: It's a free food. 201 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: But I'm with you, certainly, I think that if you 202 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: enjoy the flavor and it's something that gives you a 203 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: hit and stops you going and having something much sweeter 204 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: or grabbing some chocolate through the day, it's a really 205 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: good choice. And as I said, there's many different varieties 206 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: out there. You can get a low fat variety, you 207 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: can get the oat, the almond and I would just 208 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: be keeping the sugars as low as you can when 209 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: you're selecting from those different varieties. Okay, well, the other 210 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: one I pick, so I could have gone and done 211 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: another one. 212 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: Of these sachets. 213 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: But actually what I'm particularly interested in, Leanne is the 214 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: growing range of the pre made cans of coffee. Now 215 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: these are very different nutritionally to the sachets we've just described. 216 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: These are generally available in the cold section, both with 217 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: the dairy at the back of the supermarket, but also 218 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: on the way out as the quick pickup. So I've 219 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: chosen the Boss variety of ice latte. Now there's more 220 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: and more. I think Little Creatures is another one. I 221 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: know they're very popular in Japan, these coffeees, and they've 222 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: had coffee vending machines for a long time. They're quite small, 223 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: it's two hundred and thirty seven meal, so it's that 224 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: smaller can size that we also see in soft drink. 225 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: And if we look perserving, the calories are still pretty low. 226 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Coming in at my eyes are so badly in sixty 227 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: just over sixty calories, also fifty two calories and two 228 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen kilo duels one point four grams of 229 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: protein even though this is a latte, so that's suggesting 230 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: that it doesn't have a huge amount of milk in it. 231 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: One point two grams of fat, so very low in 232 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: both total fat and saturated fat, nine grams of carbohydrate, 233 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: and six point three grams of sugars, so if we 234 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: were comparing that to a regular latte, it's lower than that. Again, 235 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: so a regular small late would be about one hundred 236 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: calories and about ten grams of protein and are slightly 237 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: more sugars overall. 238 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: So the interesting thing with these. 239 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: Now, this one doesn't actually state the caffeine amount on 240 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: that label, but most of them are much higher in caffeine. 241 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: So these ingredients are a brood coffee coming in first, 242 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: So unlike the sachet, which is a milk based drink 243 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: with a little bit of coffee through it, this has 244 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: actually got a much higher concentration of briod coffee, water, milk, coffee, 245 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: extra sugar, milk solid and regulators to keep it stable. 246 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: And a sweetener, so this is using actually an artificial 247 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: sweetener to give it its flavor along with sugar. 248 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: It's a is it what sweetener. 249 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: Is that it doesn't list to sweetener. But I'm just 250 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: saying it uses a sweetener along with sugar, so they've 251 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: added both in there, so they've sort of kept the 252 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: overall It tastes very sweet when you drink it, but 253 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: they've kept the overall amount of sugar down by adding 254 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: in a little bit of sweetener as well. 255 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: It's an artificial sweetener. Yeah, this is an acis sulfamine potassium, 256 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: so similar to what we'd find in diet coke or 257 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: coke zero. So they're not using a natural sweetener at 258 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: the moment in this brand. So that's something to pay 259 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: attention to because I would definitely be preferring a natural 260 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: sweetener in products like this. So there's in this there's 261 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: a long black variety that is slaste. There's also some 262 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: of them are quite high in sugars. So what I 263 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: would suggest, first of all, they're definitely Have you tried one, man. 264 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 3: I have. They're very strong, so, as you said, I'm 265 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: quite surprised. I actually don't list the amount of coffee 266 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: or caffeine in there, because I remember taking a sip 267 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: and being like, oh wow, I actually find them very strong. 268 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: And I first, as you mentioned, tried these when I 269 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: was in Japan. It's it's all who ranged these, you know, 270 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: coffees in a can. And this brand, the Boss Coffee, 271 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: is actually local from Japan and been imported from Japan 272 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: as well, so they're actually they're a lot stronger than 273 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: the next cafe hot sachets. And also in terms of 274 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: the cost SUSI, they're a lot more expensive. So they're 275 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: three dollars fifteen. That's un sale at Woolwast. They're normally 276 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: three dollars sixty five for one can versus, as we said, 277 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: the next cafe sachet. If youre getting them half price, 278 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: there only thirty cents full price, they're sixty cents, So 279 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: sixty cents for one compared to three dollars sixty five 280 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: for a can of coffee. There's a substantial price difference, 281 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: but there's also substantial caffeine difference just from the taste 282 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: of it as well. So again just be a little 283 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: bit wary if you are caffeine sensity. Well, if you 284 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: are pregnant or breastfeeding, we'll have another condition that caffeine 285 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: does seem to effect us. Be a little bit more 286 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: wary with this brand as well, because it brewed coffee 287 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: is the top ingredient. 288 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: I was sure they always listed the caffeine. I am 289 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: sure they've lifted the caffeine before, but I'm just looking 290 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: on website that don't have it either. I would say 291 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: I would say they've got at least fifty milligrams. That 292 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: would be my estimate. 293 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: I'd say potentially even a little bit more, if not 294 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: closer to I mean brood coffee is the top ingredient. 295 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, one, just with the concentration. Now, there's such a 296 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: wide range of them. First of all, they're expensive. As 297 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: you say, they sell out in my local supermarket every week, 298 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: so I think that they're incredibly popular, and hence we're 299 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: seeing more and more of them. Certainly, I would be 300 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: opting for a variety that didn't have an artificial sweeter. 301 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is that I find 302 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: those drinks in general tend to prime you to want 303 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: more sweet food, so I would be mindful of that, 304 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: and I would certainly be looking and look for the 305 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: ones that contain as little added sugar as possible, because 306 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: some of them have up to twenty grams of sugars perserve, 307 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: which is more than you would get from a supermarket, sorry, 308 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: a cafe coffee. So they're a really interesting product because 309 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: they're obviously selling going crazy. They're reasonably low in calories, 310 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: but you're certainly going to get a stimulatary effect and 311 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: even some sugar from that without the protein that you 312 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: would get from a milk based coffee. 313 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of varieties for people who want 314 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: to avoid dairy. 315 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: There's a number of oat varieties, black varieties that don't 316 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: contain any milk, So that gives people who are opting 317 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: to move away from dairy the option in a caffeinated drink. 318 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: So you know, if I was honest. 319 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: With you, leanne particularly for the cost, I would be 320 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: more tempted if I like to call coffee to put 321 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: some concentrated coffee, if I had an espresso machine at home, 322 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: or even just some instant coffee and mix it and 323 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: make a nice coffee myself, even with some skim milk, 324 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: because that's a much cleaner product. You know exactly what's 325 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: gone into it, you're not using sweetness, and you can 326 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: control the milk or whichever you want to add to it. 327 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: So I certainly don't recommend them. I think they're expensive. 328 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I think that if you like them, i'd definitely be 329 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: opting for one that didn't have the added sugars in 330 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: it and just check the. 331 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Labels, but they will. 332 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: They're quite a shot of coffee, I would say, so, 333 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: at least fifty milligrams. I reckon up to about eighty. 334 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: If we think about what's in a red bull that 335 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: can so as they get them up to about eighty, 336 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: so I'd estimate they've got between fifty and eighty milligrams 337 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: of caffeine perserve. 338 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: Actually, I don't mind them, Susie, And I mean, I 339 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: know we say they're expensive, but when you think about 340 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: it grand scheme of things, a cafe shop coffee is 341 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: actually expensive. You know, they're five six dollars we're paying 342 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: for our lattes or our cappuccinos versus this is only 343 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: three sixty. So, I mean, when you think about it, 344 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: they're expensive compared to the next cafe sachets. But when 345 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: we think about it compared to our regular coffee shop 346 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: that we go to every day, Susie, they're probably a 347 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: little bit more affordable. So from a price perspective, you 348 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: may think that they're more affordable, or you may think 349 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: that they're more expensive. We'll leave that one up to you, 350 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: but I don't mind them. Again, I'd be happy to 351 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: recommend something like this for my clients. And in the 352 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: grand scheme of things, I think the sugar is quite low, 353 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: but as you said, you're not getting the good whack 354 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: of protein that we would get if you were making 355 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: your own at home based on a cup of skim 356 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: milk or getting your own from the coffee shop, which 357 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: is based on generally half to one cup of milk 358 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: as well. So the protein is quite low. But if 359 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: you're really just doing it for the caffeine hit, and 360 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: you know you're getting little bit of sweetness out of 361 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: it as well, I don't really see a problem recommending these. 362 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: I think it can be a nice sort of little 363 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: treat for a lot of people. And as you said, 364 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: they are very popular. They're sort of becoming all the 365 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: rage as is you know, sort of cold press type 366 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: coffee as well. So I definitely don't see a problem 367 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: with it. But I would sort of keep an eye 368 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: on your overall caffeine intake throughout the day because it 369 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: does you know, caffeine has a half life of about 370 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: six hours, so if you're having any sort of caffeine 371 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: past about three four five o'clock in the afternoon and 372 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: you're having problems sleeping at nighttime, you're probably overdoing your 373 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: amount of caffeine, So just keep an eye on that. 374 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: And caffeine for some people does tend to make them 375 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: a little bit more jittery, a little bit more anxious, 376 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: gives them sort of heart palpitation, So just keep an 377 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: eye on your amount of caffeine each day. I think 378 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: it's just an important take home message. 379 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: Because they're quite small, like two just under two fifty 380 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: mili for three bucks. Ye, I think that's quite expensive. 381 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: When you're not in that one, you're not really getting 382 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: the benefit of dairy and the protein, so you're literally 383 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: paying for just the coffee and water. I'm just looking 384 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: at a different one that's in supermarket which has forty 385 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: percent whole milk, and that's coming in at twelve point 386 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: six grams of sugars, which will be coming from some 387 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: of the milk, but it's also got added sugar. So 388 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: I think my recommendation would be to clients that if 389 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: you're enjoying them all like them, it's convenience, really seek 390 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: out the why that are much lower in sugars, because 391 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: basically you're adding more sugars into your diet that you 392 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally be having. And it's quite a small serve, 393 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: like two thirty meal like that's tiny. That's a very 394 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: small coffee at the coffee shop for three dollars plus. 395 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I wouldn't they wouldn't be in my budget, 396 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: but I could work them in if I had two 397 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: with my clients. 398 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, David really likes someonees. We buy another brand where 399 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: it's straight. It's cold breast coffee in a can. Basically 400 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: it's incredibly strong. I pop one can one day and 401 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: took a sip and nearly spat it out. It was 402 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: so strong. He can get probably three cold coffees out 403 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: of the one can. So he just decant the cold 404 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: breast coffee into a cup, tops it up with skim milk, 405 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: and then he'll get probably two to three iced coffees 406 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: out of that. So he really likes that because we 407 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: don't have a good quality coffee machine at home. So 408 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: whenever the sort of the coffee shops are clothed, or 409 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: he wants another shot of coffee or iced coffee in 410 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: the afternoon, he'll use that can. But he doesn't drink. 411 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: He sort of gets two to three drinks out of 412 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: the one can, so I guess from a cost perspective, 413 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: that can make it a little bit easier, and he 414 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: sort of ends up making his own, so he gets 415 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 3: a full plain black iced cold breast coffee with any 416 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: milk will should have added, then sort of makes it 417 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: up with milk themself. So that could be another way 418 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: that people could enjoy that at home if they don't 419 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: have a nice coffee machine and they do want a 420 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: better quality coffee than just what instant coffee is. So 421 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: each to their own. There are a couple of different 422 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: ways that you can play with it. But yeah, I 423 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 3: think it's really just going to fit in with your lifestyle. 424 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: And if you think that this does, I don't think 425 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: it's overall a bad product at all. Probably just the 426 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: cost and the small amount is something to be aware. 427 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Of, and also that you're not getting if you're not 428 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: getting the milk based, you won't be getting any benefits 429 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: of calcium that you would get from an actual milk 430 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: coffee if you're buying that. 431 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: But I'm with you. 432 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I think that if you like them, there's certainly some 433 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: good options out there, and just check your labels. So 434 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I think we'll continue to see this growing supermarket. A 435 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: lot of the ones that we see are imported, they're 436 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: not produced locally, and I think over time we'll get 437 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: more and more variety, similar to the sachets, which give 438 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: people real choice and potentially tick off nutrition or boxes 439 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: that we're looking for. So watch this space, coffee lovers. 440 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: But that brings us to the end of the Nutrition 441 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Couch product review. 442 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: For another week. 443 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: If you have done so already, don't forget to subscribe 444 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: to have us delivered every Sunday and Wednesday morning. 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