1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Now, anyone who has listened to The Nutrition Couch before 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: will know that LeeAnne and I are rather big coffee fans, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: especially Leanne now she has a seven week old baby girl. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Me uh, Coffee in this day and age comes in 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: many different varieties. You can find it in supermarkets, you 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: can pick it up at all the takeaways, or you 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: can be making your own. 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: So today we wanted to chat through. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Two different supermarket coffee options in case the daily trip 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: to the coffee shop doesn't fit into your schedule or 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: your budget. 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Susie Burrell and I'm Leanne Wood, and. 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: We bring you the Nutrition Couch, a bie weekly chat 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: on everything that you can find in the supermarket. 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: And I have to say, Leanne. 16 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Coffee would go pretty close to be my favorite thing 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: in the whole world. And I would even admit that 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: to my family. There is nothing I enjoy more in 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: my life than my daily coffee. And I have a 20 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: feeling from your post that you're pretty similar, especially at 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: the moment, I very much. 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: And I was saying I haven't actually had my coffee 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: this one before I dropped on this podcast, and I 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: am so struggling. 25 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: I can't even believe you rocked up with this. 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: I would literally not be able to do that, so 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: it hats off to you, but we have you know, 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people go to the coffee 29 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: shop and indeed my daily trip to get my latte 30 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: is a big part of my day. But not everyone 31 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: can do that, and certainly there are a number of 32 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: supermarket options which are actually great tasting and growing. So 33 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: there's a whole group of us who like convenience or 34 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: even the cost effectiveness of coffee. So we've chosen two 35 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: different products today, and there's different varieties in each of 36 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: these ranges, but you'll get the gist. Even though I've picked, 37 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: for example, this one's the Nest Cafe cappuccino pre mixes 38 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: which come in the sachets. 39 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: Now there's latte. There's a million different ones. 40 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: So I didn't choose cappuccino for any other reason that 41 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty common. What we're going to 42 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: describe is pretty similar, no matter which whether you choose 43 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: latte or any of them. If you look there, but 44 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: they're pretty similar. So if I go through the ingredients 45 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: of the sachet, the first ingredient is milk solids. Then 46 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: it's eighteen I cut My eyes is so bad. I 47 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: thought it was thirteen eighteen percent coffee, vegetable oil, sugar, glucoseyrut, 48 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: multiedextri flavor and stabilizers. And then the little chocolate shaker 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: that you also get has sugar, cocoa, multifiers, flavors. But 50 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: that's really small part is if you've used them. That's 51 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: a tiny part compared to the actual sashet now per sachet, 52 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: which is twelve point five grams, it comes in at 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: two hundred and ten kilodules. That's in a gram of protein, 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: almost two grams of fat, one point six saturated, eight 55 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: point seven grams of carb, four point six grams of sugars, 56 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: and seventy five milligrams of sodium. So if we compare 57 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: that leand to the cappuccino that you would get from 58 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: the local cafe, not skim. If I'll just say a 59 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: regular cappuccino, you'd be looking. 60 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:43,279 Speaker 2: At about. 61 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: Four I would sort of say it's sort of four 62 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: hundred three twenty to four hundred, between eighty kilodels and 63 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: one hundred depending on the size. You're probably getting what 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: three four up to five grams of protein from the 65 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: milk and a cappuccino, and you'd be getting less than 66 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: ten grams of carbohydrate overall, keeping in mind that it 67 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have as much milk as a latte does, so 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: certainly these are slightly lower in calories you would the 69 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: sugars in this form, you're getting some added sugar from 70 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: it compared to a cappuccino, which is the naturally occurring 71 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: milk sugars. And you know, I have to say I 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: don't have overly strong opinions on this product because on 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: one hand, you would say, well, it's more process than 74 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: a coffee that you buy from the store. We don't 75 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: have a caffeine measure on this, so a shot of 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: espresso coffee that you'd find in a cappuccino is got 77 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: a hundred milligrams of caffeine. I don't know what the 78 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: caffeine rating of these are. I don't know even if 79 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: it's similar or not. Maybe you know that leand no, they. 80 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: Don't listen at all, and I've tried to look it 81 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: up multiple times, and that's sort of It is a 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: bit of a problem because I've had some clients who 83 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: are wanting to get pregnant or in their fertility journey, 84 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: so actually looking at caffeine content is important. But I 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: looked on the website. It just doesn't list the caffeine content, 86 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 3: so I imagine that it's but that's that's not really 87 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: based on anything. So I think just if you are 88 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: caffeine sens it'd be a little bit wary. 89 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think it would be low. First of all, 90 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that i't list it. That's fascinating to me. 91 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: But I think it would be low because if I 92 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: work backwards, so as I said, a shot of espresso 93 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: is about one hundred milligrams of caffeine, my memory of 94 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: instant coffee is that a tea spoon of instant coffee 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: is about fifty milligrams. 96 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: Does that sound right to you? 97 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: I think between forty and sixty yep, yep. 98 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: So that's sort of half an espresso shot. 99 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: Now, if this is only eighteen percent soluble coffee, and 100 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: say that's looking at twelve point five grams, so that's 101 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: say twenty percent of that, we're looking at maybe two 102 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: point five to three grams of coffee itself. 103 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: That's low because say, if. 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: You're looking at a teaspoon, you're getting fifty So I'd 105 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: say it would be thirty milligrams or less. 106 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: That's what I would roughly calculate it to be, so 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: just a bit. 108 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: More than a black tea or like an English breakfast 109 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: tee or so I think that's around about twenty milligrams, 110 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: so maybe a little bit more than yeah, a standard 111 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: cup of black tea. 112 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: That's just my very rough calculation, so nowhere near equivalent 113 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: to the cappuccino that you would buy a coffee shop. 114 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: And I think these packets can be a little bit 115 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: misleading because, let's be honest, it's the service twelve point 116 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: five grams and that's less than a tablespoon of weight. 117 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: So even though when we look at the ingredient list, 118 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: we say, right, it's got milk, coffee or hang on, 119 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: it's got vegetable oil, it's got sugar, it's got gluecose, 120 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: the amounts of it going to be very small, very 121 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: very small. So I sort of am like, well, yes, 122 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: it's probably better to have the real thing. If you're 123 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: looking for a caffeine hit. There are far better options 124 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: than using this. Is it going to cause any drama? 125 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Not really, It's not really going to affect much in 126 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: your day. I wouldn't be having four a day if 127 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: you had one, because it is processed. I know in 128 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: this range there is a skim milk cappuccino variety which 129 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: will be a little bit lower in fat. Again, I 130 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: know there's latter. I know there's oat milk variety. So 131 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: I would just pay attention to how much added sugar 132 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: was going into some of these, because you will be 133 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: getting some sugars from the milk in this which is 134 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: contributed to that four point six grams versus if you're 135 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: looking at something like an oat milk or almond milk version, 136 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: it's probably more added sugar. But again in the grand 137 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: scheme of things, it's pretty low, pretty insignificant, not going 138 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: to harm you. And if that's sort of something you 139 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: enjoy at the end of the day for sixty calories, 140 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the least bit concerned. 141 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: We do you think? 142 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: I agree? I'm I don't mind them. I'm not going 143 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: to say I love them my favorite things in the world, 144 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: but I have definitely drunk them in the past. I 145 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: think they're very affordable. I mean, at the moment I'm 146 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: looking at Wilworth's online Susie and you can get the 147 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: box of ten cappuccino sachets for three dollars fifteen, it's 148 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: like thirty cents a sachet. So when you're comparing it 149 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: to a cafe based coffee, which is you know, four 150 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: or five six dollars to keep you getting your arm 151 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: and milks and your oat milks in your double shots 152 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: and whatnot, you're get in charged more. It is very 153 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: very affordable. And as she said, in the grand scheme 154 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: of things, it's such a small amount that even the 155 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: over the saturated fat content is one point six grams, 156 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: it's a really, really minimal amount. The sugar is a 157 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: minimal amount. So yes, they are a bit processed, but 158 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: I'm absolutely fine with these. I think they're a good 159 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: option for a lot of people. They're very affordable. As 160 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: you said, they don't really give you much of a 161 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: caffeine hit. If I was to have one, I'd probably 162 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: put an extra teaspoon of you know, instant coffee pit 163 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 3: in there. But I do have a lot of clients 164 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: who use them, Susie A, because they are a little 165 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: bit more caffeine sensitive, so they like these compared to 166 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: a coffee shop cafee coffee shop coffee. And also it's 167 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: something it's just like a nice warming drink that sort 168 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: of gets them through over morning tea or over afternoon tea. 169 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: So I do have a lot of my clients who 170 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: use these, and I'm more than happy to sort of 171 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: allow them to do that, because, as you said, it 172 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: is a really low calorie sort of drink. But if 173 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: you are, you know, they are made to be you know, 174 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: made up on just basically hot water. You're not supposed 175 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: to add anything extra into it. So if you are 176 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: adding an extra sugars, extra milk to you know, make 177 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: it a bit colder so it's not as hot as well, 178 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: that will obviously contribute to more calories as well, but 179 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: just made on plain hot water. I actually think it's 180 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: not a bad option, Susie. I think for a lot 181 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: of people it can work really well. But as you said, 182 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: it's it's very low caffeine, So if you are needing two, three, 183 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: four of these a day to get your caffeine hit, 184 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: you probably want to go to something else. 185 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: And I think if you did prefer it with milk, 186 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: I would certainly be suggesting a skim milk to keep 187 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: the fat low overall. And once you're doing that, you're 188 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: sort of coming into more of a substantial snack. So 189 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: if you wanted to have this as a morning or 190 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: afternoon tea with milk, that would be where that would fit, 191 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: because then you're getting closer to twenty grams of carbohydrate, 192 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: you're getting close to ten grams of protein probably for 193 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: another hundred calories or so, so it's still calorie controlled. 194 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: So that would then fit that bracket of a snack 195 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: with some protein in it, or I would say just 196 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: be mindful. I do have some clients who might see 197 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: this as a free food and then have several per day, 198 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: and certainly that's not what we would suggest because it 199 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: does have some added sugars to it, So I would 200 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: suggest keeping it with a meal or with a snack 201 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: rather than thinking it's a free food. 202 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: But I'm with you, certainly. 203 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I think that if you enjoy the flavor and it's 204 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: something that gives you a hit and stops you going 205 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: and having something much sweeter or grabbing some chocolate through 206 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: the day, it's a really good choice. And as I said, 207 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: there's many different varieties out there. You can get a 208 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: low fat variety, you can get the oat, the armond, 209 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: and I would just be keeping the sugars as low 210 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: as you can when you're selecting from those different varieties. Okay, 211 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: well the other one I picked, so I could have 212 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: gone and done another one of these saschets. But actually 213 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: what I'm particularly interested in, Leanne, is the growing range 214 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: of the pre made cans of coffee. Now these are 215 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: very different nutritionally to the sachets we've just described. These 216 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: are generally available in the cold section, both with the 217 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: dairy at the back of the supermarket, but also on 218 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: the way out as the quick pickup. So I've chosen 219 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: the Boss variety of ice latte. Now there's more and more. 220 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: I think Little Creatures is another one. I know they're 221 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: very popular in Japan, these coffees, and they've had coffee. 222 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Vending machines for a long time. 223 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: They're quite small, it's two hundred and thirty seven meal, 224 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: so it's that smaller can size that we also see 225 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: in soft drink. And if we look perserving, the calories 226 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: are still pretty low. Coming in at my eyes are 227 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: so badly sixty just over sixty calories, also fifty two 228 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: calories and two hundred and eighteen kilo duels one point 229 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: four grams of protein. Even though this is a latte, 230 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: so that's suggesting that it doesn't have a huge amount 231 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: of milk in it. One point two grams of fat, 232 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: so very low in both total fat and saturated fat, 233 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: nine grams of carbohydrate, and six point three grams of sugars, 234 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: so if we were comparing that to a regular latte, 235 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: it's lower than that. Again, so a regular small late 236 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: would be about one hundred calories and about ten grands 237 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: of protein and are slightly more sugars overall. 238 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: So the interesting thing. 239 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: With these now, this one doesn't actually state the caffeine 240 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: amount on that label, but most of them are much 241 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: higher in caffeine. So these ingredients are a brood coffee 242 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: coming in first. So unlike the sachet, which is a 243 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: milk based drink with a little bit of coffee through it, 244 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: this has actually got a much higher concentration of briod coffee, water, milk, coffee, 245 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: extra sugar, milk solid and regulators to keep it stable. 246 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: And a sweetener, so this is using actually an artificial 247 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: sweetener to. 248 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: Give it its flavor along with sugar. 249 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: It's a is it what sweetener. 250 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: Is that it doesn't listen to sweetener. But I'm just 251 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: saying it uses a sweetener along with sugar, so they've 252 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: added both in there, so I've sort of kept the 253 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: overall It tastes very sweet when you drink it, but 254 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: they've kept the overall amount of sugar down by adding 255 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: in a little bit of sweetener as well. 256 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: It's an artificial sweetener. Yeah, this is an acis sulfamine potassium, 257 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: so similar to what we'd find in diet coke or 258 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: coke zero. So they're not using a natural sweetener at 259 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: the moment in this brand. So that's something to pay 260 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: attention to because I would definitely be preferring a natural 261 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: sweetener in products like this. So there's in this there's 262 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: a long black variety that is slaste. There's also some 263 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: of them are quite high in sugars. So what I 264 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: would suggest, first of all, they're definitely Have you tried one, man. 265 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: I have. They're very strong, so, as you said, I'm 266 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: quite surprised. I actually don't list the amount of coffee 267 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: or caffeine in there, because I remember taking a sip 268 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 3: and being like, oh wow, I actually find them very strong. 269 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: And I first, as you mentioned, tried these when I 270 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: was in Japan. It's it's all who ranged these, you know, 271 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: coffees in a can, and this brand, the Boss Coffee 272 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: is actually local from Japan and been imported from Japan 273 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: as well, so they're actually they're a lot stronger than 274 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: the next Cafe hot sachets. And also in terms of 275 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: the cost Susie, they're a lot more expensive. So they're 276 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: three dollars fifteen that's on sale at Woolwas. They're normally 277 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: three dollars sixty five for one can versus, as we said, 278 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: the next cafe saches. If you're geting them half price, 279 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: there are only thirty cents will price. They're sixty cents, 280 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: so sixty cents for one compared to three dollars sixty 281 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: five for a can of coffee. There's a substantial price difference, 282 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: but there's also substantial caffeine difference just from the taste 283 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: of it as well. So again just be a little 284 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: bit wary if you are caffeine sensity, well, if you 285 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: are pregnant or breastfeeding, or have another condition that caffeine 286 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: does seem to effect, just be a little bit more 287 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: wary with this brand as well, because it brewed coffee 288 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: is the top ingredient. 289 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure they always listed the caffeine. I am sure 290 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: they've lifted the caffeine before, but I'm just looking on 291 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: website that don't have it either. I would say, I 292 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: would say they've got at least fifty milligrams. That would 293 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: be my estimate. 294 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: I'd say potentially even a little bit more, if not 295 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: closer to me. I mean, rude coffee is the top ingredient. 296 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, just with the concentration. Now, there's such a wide 297 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: range of them. First of all, they're expensive. As you say, 298 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: they sell out in my local supermarket every week, so 299 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: I think that they're incredibly popular, and hence we're seeing 300 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: more and more of them. Certainly, I would be opting 301 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: for a variety that didn't have an artificial sweeter. And 302 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: the reason I say that is that I find those 303 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: drinks in general tend to prime you to want more 304 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: sweet food, so I would be mindful of that, and 305 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: I would certainly be looking and look for the ones 306 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: that contain as little added sugar as possible, because some 307 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: of them have up to twenty grams of sugars perserve, 308 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: which is more than you would get from a supermarket, sorry, 309 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: a cafe coffee. So they're a really interesting product, because 310 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: they're obviously selling going crazy. They're reasonably low in calories, 311 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: but you're certainly going to get a stimulatory effect and 312 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: even some sugar from that without the protein that you 313 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: would get from a milk based coffee. And there's a 314 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of varieties for people who want to avoid dairy. 315 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: There's a number of oat varieties, black varieties that don't 316 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: contain any milk, So that gives people who are opting 317 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: to move away from dairy the option in a caffeated drink. 318 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: So you know, if I was honest with you, leanne 319 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: particularly for the cost, I would be more tempted if 320 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: I like to call coffee to put some concentrated coffee, 321 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: if I had an espresso machine at home, or even 322 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: just some instant coffee and mix it and make a 323 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: nice coffee myself, even with some skim milk, because that's 324 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: a much cleaner product. You know exactly what's gone into it, 325 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: you're not using sweetness, and you can control the milk 326 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: or whichever you want to add to it. So I 327 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: certainly don't recommend them. I think they're expensive. I think 328 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: that if you like them, i'd definitely be opting for 329 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: one that didn't have the added sugars in it and 330 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: just check the labels, but they will. They're quite a 331 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: shot of coffee, I would say, so at least fifty milligrams. 332 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: I reckon up to about eighty. If we think about 333 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: what's in a red bull that can so as they 334 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: get them up to about eighty, so I'd estimate they've 335 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: got between fifty and eighty milligrams of caffeine perserve. 336 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: Actually, I don't mind them, Susie, And I mean, I 337 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: know we say they're expensive, but when you think about 338 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: it grand scheme of things, a cafe shop coffee is 339 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: actually expensive. You know, they're five six dollars we're paying 340 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: for our lattes or our cappuccinos versus this is only 341 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: three sixty. So, I mean, when you think about it, 342 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: they're expensive compared to the next cafe sachets. But when 343 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: we think about it, compared to our regular coffee shop 344 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: that we go to every day, Susie, they're probably a 345 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: little bit more affordable. So from a price perspective, you 346 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: may think that they're more affordable, or you may think 347 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: that they're more expensive. We'll leave that one up to you, 348 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: but I don't mind them. Again, I'd be happy to 349 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: recommend something like this for my clients, and in the 350 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: grand scheme of things, I think the sugar is quite low, 351 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: but as you said, you're not getting the good whack 352 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: of protein that we would get if you were making 353 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: your own at home based on a cup of skim milk, 354 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: or getting your own from the coffee shop, which is 355 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: based on generally half to one cup of milk as well. 356 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: So the protein is quite low. But if you're really 357 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: just doing it for the caffeine hit, and you know 358 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: you're getting a little bit of sweetness out of it 359 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: as well, I don't really see a problem recommending these. 360 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: I think it can be a nice sort of little 361 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: treat for a lot of people, and as you said, 362 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: they are very popular. They're sort of becoming all the 363 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: rage as is you know, sort of cold press type 364 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: coffee as well. So I definitely don't see a problem 365 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: with it. But I would sort of keep an eye 366 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: on your overall caffeine intake throughout the day because it 367 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: does you know, caffeine has a half life of about 368 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: six hours, so if you're having any sort of caffeine 369 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: past about three, four five o'clock in the afternoon, and 370 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: you're having problems sleeping at nighttime, you're probably overdoing your 371 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: amount of caffeine, So just keep an eye on that. 372 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: And caffeine for some people does tend to make them 373 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: a little bit more jittery, a little bit more anxious, 374 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: give them sort of heart palpitation. So just keep an 375 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: eye on your amount of caffeine each day. I think 376 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: it is just an important take home message. 377 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Because they're quite small, like just under two fifty mili 378 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: for three bucks. Yeh, I think that's quite expensive. When 379 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: you're not in that one, you're not really getting the 380 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: benefit of dairy and the protein, so you're literally paying 381 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: for just the coffee and water. I'm just looking at 382 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: a different one that's in supermarket which has forty percent 383 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: whole milk, and that's coming in at twelve point six 384 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: grams of sugars, which will be coming from some of 385 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: the milk, but it's also got added sugar. So I 386 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: think my recommendation would be to clients that if you're 387 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: enjoying them all like them, it's convenience, really seek out 388 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: the whe that are much lower in sugars, because basically 389 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: you're adding more sugars into your diet. That you wouldn't 390 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: normally be having. And it's quite a small serve, like 391 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: two thirty meal like that's tiny. That's a very small 392 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: coffee at the coffee shop for three dollars plus. So yeah, 393 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: I wouldn't they wouldn't be in my budget, but I 394 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: could work them in if I had two with my clients. 395 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, David really likes someones. We buy another brand where 396 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: it's straight. It's cold press coffee in a can. Basically 397 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 3: it's incredibly strong. I pop one can one day and 398 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: took a sip and nearly spat it out. It was 399 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: so strong. He can get probably three cold coffees out 400 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 3: of the one can. So he just decant the cold 401 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: breast coffee into a cup, tops it up with skim milk, 402 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: and then he'll get probably two to three iced coffees 403 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: out of that. So he really likes that because we 404 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: don't have a good quality coffee machine at home. So 405 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: whenever the sort of the coffee shops are clothed, or 406 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: he wants another shot of coffee or and iced coffee 407 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: in the afternoon, he'll use that can. But he doesn't drink. 408 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: He sort of gets two to three drinks out of 409 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: the one can, so I guess from a cost perspective, 410 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: that can make it a little bit easier, and he 411 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: sort of ends up making his own, so he gets 412 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 3: a full plain black iced cold Breas coffee with any 413 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: milk will should have added, then sort of makes it 414 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: up with milk themself. So that could be another way 415 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: that people could enjoy that at home if they don't 416 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: have a nice coffee machine and they do want a 417 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: better quality coffee than just what instant coffee is. So 418 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: each to their own. There are a couple of different 419 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: ways that you can play with it. But yeah, I 420 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: think it's really just going to fit in with your lifestyle. 421 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: And if you think that this does, I don't think 422 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: it's overall a bad product at all. Probably just the 423 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: cost and the small amount is something to be aware of. 424 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: And also that you're not getting if you're not getting 425 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: the milk based you won't be getting any benefits of 426 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: calcium that you would get from an actual milk coffee 427 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: if you're buying that. 428 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: But I'm with you. 429 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I think that if you like them, there's certainly some 430 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: good options out there, and just check your labels. So 431 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I think we'll continue to see this growing supermarket. A 432 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: lot of the ones that we see are imported, they're 433 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: not produced locally, and I think over time we'll get 434 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: more and more variety, similar to the sachets, which give 435 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: people real choice and potentially tick off nutrition or boxes 436 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: that we're looking for. 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