1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: On today's show, Emmy lu McCarthy is called out for 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: allegedly not paying her tab at a pub. Tammy Hembro 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: announces her new book deal, Abby Chatfield's unrelatable breakup advice, 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Jack Kenny's dramatic transformation, and how Love Island All Stars 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: is keeping the franchise alive. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torba, and there has 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: been a revelation in Our Snakes, a live topic that 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: we did on Tuesday, so for those who missed it, 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: we were shocked to discover that the orange snake is 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: actually flavored apricot, and even more shockingly, the green is 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: apparently lemon flavored. Well that is because Tanya Hannesesy on 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: her TikTok came out revealing what the flavors were, and 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: I even accused Allan's of making up those flavors for 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: pr but a couple of our listeners have informed us 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: that the name of the flavors has actually been on 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the back of the packet the whole time. I would 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: like to know how long it's been on the back 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: of the packet because I actually don't read the packets 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: very closely. 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: I've never noticed it before. 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's only been on there for a 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: few months. Well, Allen's actually did come out and commented 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: in the media saying, yes, Tanya is correct, but they 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: never pointed to the fact that the flavors were on 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: the back of the packet. Yeah, it just seems like 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: an orchestrated pr campaign. I still believe that may be 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: the case, and that they've had this strategy that we're 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: going to release what these flavors are in order to 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: create some sort of buzz around them, and they've got 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Tanya Hennessy on board to do it. See it has worked. 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about them right now. See, I actually don't 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: think that anymore. I think Tanya Hennessy may have just 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: read the back of the Snakes and just shared it 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: with everyone and it blew up. 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: Look I like my theory about it. Your money coming 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: to you from my favorite little walk. 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Emmy Lou McCarthy has been accused of allegedly not paying 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: her tab at a Melbourne venue. Awkwardly, the Albert Park 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: Hotel made the claims on the influencer's former fashion brand's 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Instagram account on a post farewelling hurt from the business. 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Before we get into all of that drama, I do 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: need to provide some context. So Emmy Lou used to 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: own a fashion brand called Emmy Lou Loves, and back 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, she announced that she was joining 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: established Melbourne fashion brand Zoe Moss and at the time, 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: she explained that the new look brand wasn't being relaunched 48 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: under her own Emmy Lou Loves range of clothing because 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Zoe Must already provided a greater production value than she 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: could on her own. I'm so surprised to discover that 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: she has her own clothing brand because she doesn't strike 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: me as someone who is very fashion forward. I understand 53 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: that she has probably a lot of mums following her, 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: maybe for her relatability, but fashion isn't one of those 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: things I think that she's known for. Well, it hasn't 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: been going too well because she has exited the brand. 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: But back in twenty twenty one, she said, Zoe Must 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: will be the foundation to my next career of moving 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: into short films and feature productions. It's all happening. Let's 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: not get carried away though, and celebrate this moment right 61 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: now as I am so proud. 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: We did this. 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Without you guys supporting me through my Emmy Lou Loves 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Fashion range, I wouldn't have had the confidence to think 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: I could take on a project this big. You are 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: the real MVPs here, Dream big and don't let any 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: motherfuckers make you think otherwise. 68 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm confused. 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: What does this fashion brand have to do with her 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: moving into short films and feature productions. I have absolutely 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: no idea, and three years on that obviously hasn't actually happened. 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: So she was doing some stuff for Studio ten, some hosting, 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: so she does seem keen to move into that sort 74 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: of space. But it's very puzzling. 75 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 76 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: So it gets even weirder because on Monday, Zoe Moss 77 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: officially announced that Emmy Lou was parting ways with the brand. 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: So the brand s had a photo of Emmy Lou 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: with the caption from the entire team at z M HQ, 80 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: we want to shout a big thank you and good 81 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: luck to Emmy Lou as she embarks on the next 82 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: step of her journey. We know you'll continue to take 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: the world by storm. Thanks for everything, Lou. Now the 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: post has got twenty comments. However, when you go and 85 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: click on them, it's quite clear that some of them 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: have been hidden. So it's been very highly moderated. Now 87 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: enter the Albert Park Hotel. So they commented on the 88 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Zoe Moss posts, can you ask her to come pay 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: her tab? She's blocked us. Thanks now. This comment was 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: swiftly deleted, but it didn't stop many people screenshotting it. 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Now. 92 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: It is unclear what Emmy Lou's relationship is with the 93 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: Albert Park Hotel. It seems like they have some sort 94 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: of unofficial partnership where she does go into the pub 95 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: and enjoys a meal. It is interesting that they're now 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: claiming that she hasn't paid a tab. It seems like 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: she thought the relationship was still going. 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: But they've cut it short. Yeah, and it. 99 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: Gets even weirder because, in a bizarre twist, a day later, 100 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: the Albert Park Hotel shared a photo of Emmy Lou 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: standing with two staff members outside the venue, and the 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: photo was captioned always a lovely time and when one 103 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: of our favorites, Emmy Lou, stops by and tagged Emmy 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: Lou in the post. Now, the comments were turned off 105 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: on the post, so presumably the hotel was forced to 106 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: shut them down after receiving a lot of backlash over 107 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: their backflip. This whole incident is really odd. You would 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: assume that they have some sort of marketing team in 109 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: place if they are potentially offering Emmy Lou a contra 110 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: deal to come in and eat at the hotel. That's 111 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: why it's really weird for them to then go rogue 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: and start abusing her and accusing her of all of 113 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: these things on another business page. Well, they might not 114 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: have a marketing team. It might just be the Emmy 115 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Lou frequents this pub. They said, hey, maybe we'll give 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: you this free meal if you post about us like 117 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: we actually don't know. 118 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: Ye, Well, their relationship is. Most pubs do have a 119 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: marketing team. Will You've worked with a lot of pubs 120 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: marketing teams in a former job. Yeah. 121 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: I have worked with a number of pubs and hotels 122 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: in the past, and generally there is a marketing person 123 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: and there is a lot of strategy involved with who 124 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: you want to invite into the hotel. 125 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's also quite. 126 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Common for numerous people to have access to the Instagram 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: accounts as well, So in this case, you don't know 128 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: exactly who left this comment. I mean, I think it 129 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: speaks volumes that the hotel had to turn off comments 130 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: on their post because people are clearly not happy. Originally, 131 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that were applauding the 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Albert Park Hotel for calling Emmy Lou out, particularly those 133 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: people who do not like Emmy Lou, and there are 134 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of those. However, this complete backflip has made 135 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: them look really pathetic and really spineless. It makes it 136 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: also look like they got it wrong and they're somewhat 137 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: having to apologize to her. 138 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: I would just love. 139 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: To know what went on behind the scenes in that 140 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: twenty four hours to get that photo outside of the pub, 141 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: because clearly Emmy Lou has contacted them. I think it's 142 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: fairly obvious she was keeping a very close eye on 143 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: the comments on her former Fashion Brands page. She would 144 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: have seen that and gone what the fuck, Particularly the 145 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: fact that they claimed that she'd blocked them. It just 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: looked so bad on her behalf. Even though she has 147 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: appeared in this photo. I do wonder whether we'll see 148 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: any more promotional posts going forward. Personally, if it was me, 149 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: I would not want to set foot in this venue 150 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: again if I was being wrongly accused of not paying 151 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: the tap. Well, that's why it's so bizarre that she 152 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: featured in the photo. Like, if say, the claims were 153 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: incorrect and I was Emmy Lou, I would have demanded 154 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: that they put out an official statement saying this is 155 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: not true and we apologize. However, it makes it even 156 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: murkier because we're not sure who is in the wrong 157 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: in this situation. What appears to have happened is they've 158 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: just come together and taken a photo and tried to 159 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: sweep it under the rug. 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: How are you feeling, Oh Like, I'm just I'm just 161 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: really sad, Like I've just farted crying every day. I'm 162 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: I'm also in the face of the breakup where you're like, oh, like, 163 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: I'm never gonna love anyone ever again. 164 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield has revealed that she is currently going through 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: a breakup, which has led many of us to ask 166 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: who was she dating in the first place. Yeah, I 167 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: saw this and I was like, oh, I didn't even 168 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: realize she was in a relationship. To be fair, I 169 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: haven't been keeping up with her podcast, and I do 170 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: feel like she's gone a little bit mia on her 171 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: social channels, or maybe it's just my algorithm. Yeah, I 172 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: haven't seen her pop up quite as much, which did 173 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: surprise me because she did quit her recent radio gig 174 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: so she could concentrate more on her Instagram following. Maybe 175 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: she's been in this love bubble. I do feel sorry 176 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 1: for her because on the podcast she was talking about 177 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: how she felt really sad and was crying every day. 178 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a burn to her 179 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: former boyfriend Conrad bien Stevens, though, because she said that 180 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: she hasn't cared about a breakup in the last five years, 181 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: and she's at the stage where she thinks that she's 182 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: never going to love anyone again. She seems to think 183 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: that there might be some sort of chance that they 184 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: can get back together. 185 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: Who knows. We'll have to watch this space. 186 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I think the fact that she's talking about her on 187 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: her podcast is probably not going to help the situation 188 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: in terms of who this mystery boyfriend is. Back in 189 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: January last year, So Dramatic reported that fans believed Abby 190 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: was dating Australian actor Ryan Coore. So Eagle Eyed followers 191 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Peace together. All the clues Abby had dropped on her podcast. 192 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: For one, she revealed that she was dating a super 193 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: talented Australian actor who she met through Instagram. Now, of 194 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: course everyone ran to see if they were following each 195 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: other and all checked out they were in fact following 196 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: each other. Ryan has also been working on a mini 197 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: series being shot in Sydney and Brisbane, so Abby lives 198 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: in Brisbane. It checks out now. For those not familiar 199 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: with Ryan, he recently featured in the Game of Thrones 200 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: prequel House of Dragon. He's also been a supporting act 201 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: in some Hollywood blockbusters, including Wolf Creek Too. How I 202 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: remember him though, is the guy with the bleach blonde, 203 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: spiky hair from Blue Water High. 204 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: He was also impact to the rafters back in the day. 205 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: What a blast from the past. 206 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: I feel like Abby is the vintage where she would 207 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: have gone home from school and watched Blue Water High. 208 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Maybe that led to the appeal of him now. I 209 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: couldn't help but laugh when Abby shared this breakup tip 210 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: with her audience. 211 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: Won't do a breakup and I'm really really sad and hot. 212 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: Tip to anyone in life in general, don't date anyone 213 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: that you could look up interviews with them on YouTube. 214 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: Because what happensphony break up is you watch interws of 215 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,359 Speaker 3: them in the background because you missed them, and you go, oh, 216 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: love that love that you are in my house in 217 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: my head. 218 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's too many people that could actually 219 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: relate to that. Perhaps if she. 220 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: Said, you know, going back on your phone and looking 221 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: at old videos or photos, but there's not many of 222 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: us who have dated someone that's famous and does into us, well, 223 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: probably one percent of the population could relate to that. 224 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a bit of a flex. I do notice 225 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: she does this quite a bit in her episodes. It's 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: just silly because it seems like it's some click baity 227 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: hook to try and get people in, but then they realize, well, 228 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: hold in a second, this tip doesn't work for me 229 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: at all. 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 231 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: I think that it was definitely used for clickbait because 232 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: everyone's like, ooh, she's finally dishing the dirt on her relationship. 233 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: Because back in November she was interviewed on the project 234 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: and she said that she wasn't going to talk about 235 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: the guy that she was dating because it ended so 236 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: badly last time, and of course this was in reference 237 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: to Conrad. She also explained that the people that she 238 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: dates a concern they'll end up as content on her podcast, 239 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: which it's quite confusing because I feel like Abby has 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: built a brand on sharing very personal details and about 241 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 1: her personal life, so I don't think that that strategy 242 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: is going to work for her. We can already see 243 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: her doing a backflip and talking about her breakup, but 244 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: then I don't think it's going to bode well for 245 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: her if she wants to get. 246 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: Back with this guy. Yeah, I'm sorry. 247 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: Everyone seems to hold a light and hope that they're 248 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: going to get back together with their ex, but it 249 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: generally doesn't happen. It reminds me a bit of Alex 250 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Cooper on Call Her Daddy. As soon as she met 251 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: someone that she genuinely was into, she started putting that 252 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: person almost ahead of podcast content, and that's when we 253 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: saw her move away from talking about her sex life 254 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: to talking or interviewing celebrities. 255 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: Really that's all she does. 256 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: Now. Do you think it's a maturity thing as well, 257 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: because sometimes you get to an age where you're, like me, 258 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: talking about blowjobs is probably not really it anymore. I 259 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: don't think that's the case, because she's built a brand 260 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: around talking about sex. I mean, she's just released a 261 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: butt plug as her new sex toy. I don't think 262 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: she's going to be shy about talking about sexual things. Yeah, 263 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: but she's at that stage of life now where it 264 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: seems like she wants a serious relationship and a lot 265 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: of the guys that she's dating don't want to be 266 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: talked about on her podcast. But she's also spoken about 267 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: how in her life going forward, she wants to have 268 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: open relationships. So she might have some partners who were 269 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: happy for her to talk about their sex lives. Yeah, 270 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: well this relationship apparently wasn't open, So that's the difference, 271 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: and that's interesting. I mean, we do have to remember 272 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: that people are allowed to evolve and change, but it 273 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: is interesting when they have made it their personal brand 274 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: and how that will affect the brand moving forward. 275 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: So basically, for the good part of last year, I've 276 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: been working on a book. 277 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I feel emotional. 278 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro shed tears of joy as she announced she's 279 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: a published author with a very own book called Show Up, 280 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: set to hit bookshelves mid April. Have you pre ordered 281 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: this yet because I am very keen to read it. 282 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: I really want to listen to the audio version of this, 283 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: because I think that I'm going to find it hard 284 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: to get into if I read it, because she's already 285 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: spoken about how this is going to be a mixture 286 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: of talking about her personal life but then also a 287 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: motivational self help book, because she said that there's going 288 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: to be tools that you can use on your journey 289 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: in life. It all sounds a bit woo woo. I 290 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: just want the gossip from it. It made me think 291 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: that they had to add those bits in to pad 292 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: it out a bit to make it a full book. 293 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: I am very excited to hear about her personal life, 294 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: and I was wondering, is this book the reason why 295 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: she hasn't actually gone into detail about her breakup with 296 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Matt Paul Because she went very quiet on it. We've 297 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: hardly heard anything. I'm hoping that there's some juicy information 298 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, well she did ex explain it's a 299 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: deeper look into who she is and what she thinks, 300 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: and she will be touching on past relationships. 301 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 2: Let's throw to what she said about it. 302 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: So this is what it looks like. 303 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: This is what it looks like. 304 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: And I'm so excited and I really want you guys 305 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: to read it, and I hope you love it, And yeah, 306 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: I hope it just motivates you a little, inspires you 307 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 5: a little, talks about the ups and downs throughout my life. 308 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: It talks about things I've experienced, It talks about parenting, 309 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: it talks about my family, it talks about my relationships, 310 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: it talks about you know, pretty much everything. 311 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: It's but everything, it's just all me. 312 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: And then there's little activities and little things you can 313 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: do that can sort of help you. 314 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, I wonder if this book will include anything 315 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: about Matt Sakowski. Well, she has been working on the 316 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: book for the past year. I personally don't think that 317 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: there'll be a chapter on him. 318 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: I think that. 319 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Perhaps she will have made out a section of the 320 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: book to him, you know, when they do the notes 321 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: from the writer. See, I think maybe they'll add in 322 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: the last chapter being very hopeful about love and touching 323 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: on the fact that they're engaged, because it wouldn't be 324 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: hard to add that little bit here. 325 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 5: See. 326 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: I think that she'd almost use that as a part too, 327 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: talking about new love. 328 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Now. 329 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: She did break the news of her book launch across 330 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: all of her social media platform, so she created TikTok. 331 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: She posted glossy photos on Instagram, and she also shared 332 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: her emotional reaction to seeing the book for the first 333 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: time on YouTube. She said it was a dream come 334 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: true and a pinch me moment. When her publisher, Penguin 335 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: Random House reached out. 336 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: I was surprised to hear it. 337 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: Tammy describe herself as an avid reader, because on her account, 338 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: she's not one of those influencers who's on book talk 339 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: and actively speaks about the books that they're reading. 340 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: But she hasn't plugged Colleen Hoover no now. 341 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: But she did say her genre of choice is motivational books, 342 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: so it's no surprise that her book is going to 343 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: fall into that category as well. I was pleasantly surprised 344 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: to see the cost twenty four dollars. I didn't think 345 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: that was too bad. I do wonder if it will 346 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: sell out, though, just based on the fact that she 347 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: is going to give us a tidbit into her relationship. Oh, 348 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: I think this is going to absolutely fly off the shelves. 349 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: She has already had her American followers up in arms 350 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: because they don't yet have a pre order link. I 351 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: also think that the whole pre order thing is a 352 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: stroke of genius by the publisher and it's something that 353 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: we're seeing with a lot of other influencers and celebrities. 354 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: Who write books. Because it's a way. 355 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: To make sure that they've got enough stock. They can 356 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: then do another reorder as well make it look popular 357 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: as though it's sold out. Yeah, it's also a way 358 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: the authors get on the best selling Yes, it's all 359 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: based on this presale. The publisher is also doing this 360 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: deal where if you pre order, you get a chance 361 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: to get a signed copy from Tammy. I found that 362 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: kind of funny because there wasn't any information about how 363 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: many signed copies that will actually be. Sort of you know, 364 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: when we saw Sarah's Day signing two thousand copies of 365 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: her book, it was just sort of like, oh, it's 366 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: the luck of the draw. 367 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: You might get signed copy from me. 368 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: But I think it will actually make people sign up 369 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: because it might be a one of a kind. 370 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: Do people really care. 371 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: About influencers signatures or celebrity signatures these days? If you 372 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: meet someone, you don't ask for their autograph, you literally 373 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: ask for a selfie. I think it would be different 374 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: if it was like you go into the chance to 375 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: have a faint sea a meet and greet or at 376 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: a book launch. 377 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 378 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: True, that is a good point. I think that there 379 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: are some craze fans out there though, who would want it. Now, 380 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: the Blue Tick Brigade was out enforced to congratulate Tammy, 381 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: so Fidfa wrote, what, oh my god, this is such 382 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: a slay. 383 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: What can't you do? 384 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Steph glare Smith said, congratulations, Love, that is amazing. Matt, 385 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: her fiance wrote amazing, babe. And I did think it 386 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: was quite funny because the tammy Fit app wrote our 387 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: biggest inspiration. 388 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: The reason I think that's funny. 389 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Is because in the past they've also commented on Tammy's 390 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: photos like fire emojis and stuff like that, and people 391 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: would be like, isn't this. 392 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: Tammy writing it to herself? 393 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: And she's saying that she does have a large team 394 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: who actually managed those accounts. Yeah, I think it'd be 395 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: like the kick app writing on Steph and Laura's posts, 396 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, firemh. She's clearly a whole social media team. 397 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: I suppose it does look a little bit awkward, but 398 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: it's called the Tammy Fit. Now. In Tammy's latest vlog, 399 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: she did open up about how she's struggling with her 400 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: long distance romance with fiance Matsakowski. 401 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: Let's go to what she said, still long distance, My man, 402 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: it's not fine. 403 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: This week has been especially difficult. We just talk about this, scholar. 404 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: This week has been especially difficult though, this week and 405 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: last week because I've been so incredibly busy, so it's 406 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: been hard for us to speak as much as we 407 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: usually do. And then like yesterday, for example, I was 408 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: working all day. He was at work all day, and 409 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: then that night he was at the tennis which is 410 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: when we usually speak, so we pretty much like barely spoke, 411 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: Like obviously we spoke, but like bally compet to what 412 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: we would. 413 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: Like, so it was not it's not easy. 414 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: He gets here tonight though, so he basically works three 415 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 4: days a week in Melbourne and then he's pretty much 416 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: here rest of the time. 417 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: This was a really interesting insight, Kate. We were trying 418 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: to work out last week what Matt does as a 419 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: full time job, and she said that he works three 420 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: days a week in Melbourne and then basically is her 421 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: living boyfriend for the rest of the week. On the 422 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: Gold Coat, did she say what he does for those 423 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: three days of his podcast or she didn't specify. I 424 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: assume it's his podcast. Again, not trying to do little podcast. No, 425 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: there is a lot of work that goes into them, 426 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: but it's just interesting that they're not being specific and 427 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to be any details about when he's 428 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: actually moving to the Gold Coast or if he is. 429 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: Well. 430 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: It's clear that Tammy wants him there permanently because during 431 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: her vlog she did make a little jibe at him, 432 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: so for some context, I found this quite interesting. Tammy's brand, 433 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Saski has a match a collab with a local cafe 434 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: around the area called Alfred's, and it reminds ad me 435 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: of the Chloe Zepp latte from a few years ago. 436 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: So the drinking question is called Sasky's Strawberry Matcher. Sounds delicious, 437 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: it actually does look insane. Anyway, Tammy said that Matt 438 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: has been so keen to try it, and then she 439 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: remarked in the vlog if you lived on the Gold 440 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Coast maybe you could have tried it by now. Oh, 441 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: doesn't he live with his mum? That's what I wrote, 442 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: So you'd be like, well, fucking move. 443 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: Out of your mum's house. 444 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: You can do the podcast remotely, Like, I'm not trying 445 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: to downplay the fact that he's got family and friends 446 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: that he would like to see. But you know, if 447 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: you're getting into a relationship, if you're proposing to a 448 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: woman that has three kids, move, he made the decision 449 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: to fast track that relationship too by proposing. So if 450 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: it was me, I would almost expect him to make 451 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: a decision about where he is actually going to live now. 452 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: It has been a really big week for Tammy. On Wednesday, 453 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: she said, another big announcement is coming, and at the 454 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: time of recording, we don't yet know what that is. Kate, 455 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: do you have any sort of guesses. I'm assuming it's 456 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: business related. At first I thought maybe it was wedding related, 457 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: but in the next breath she shared that she was 458 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: flying over to Sydney to try on. 459 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: Wedding dresses, which I found very interesting. Let's throw to 460 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: what she said. I'm going to try on wedding dresses too. 461 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 4: I've never done that before and I'm so excited and 462 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: my sisters and my mom is coming. 463 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a bit jaded and skeptical after listening to this, 464 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: because last week on Matt's podcast, Tammy told Anna Macavoyd 465 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: that she already had picked out her dress and that 466 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: she showed Anna a photo of it on New Year's Eve. 467 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: So now she's. 468 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: Telling her audience that she's never tried on wedding dresses before. 469 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: I know, it's almost like she can't keep up with 470 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: what she's said about this wedding. Obviously she's going to 471 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: try on Via Wang wedding dresses. We've spoken about her 472 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: at length on the podcast how vera Wang has been 473 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: reaching out to influencers, and they did send Tammy almost 474 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: a welcome kit. It had a wedding planner in it. 475 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: I guess that Tammy may be going for multa looks 476 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: on her wedding day. But it's a bit weird that 477 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: she said it's the first time she's tried on a 478 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: wedding dress when apparently she's already got one picked out. 479 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: It's a bit disappointing. 480 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: Obviously, she knows that there's going to be a lot 481 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: of eyeballs on her page and a lot of excitement 482 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: over this dress. I think that she's reiterating it's the 483 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: first time she's trying on wedding dresses because she almost 484 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: wants to downplay her engagements to Matt and Reese as 485 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: in the other Matt because in the other podcast it 486 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: seemed as though she was saying that this is the 487 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: first time she's actually really started planning a wedding. Yeah, 488 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: but it's clearly not the first time she's tried on dresses. 489 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: If she's got one picked out, I can't wait to 490 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: see the content that she actually shares about going to 491 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: vera Wang. 492 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: It will be so interesting. 493 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: Because it's a difficult one for bridal brands because you 494 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: have to wait so long for the influencer to share 495 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: their actual dress so they pick, so they then have 496 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: to pick ones that might not look that great on 497 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: them or the ones that they don't like. But if 498 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: you're Tammy Hembro, you're probably gonna look great in a 499 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: lot of the dresses. So I think it's a win 500 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: win for the brand. Also think that maybe she's trying 501 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: to push that it's the first wedding dress she's ever 502 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: tried on because it makes for a snappier TikTok video, 503 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Oh yeah, it definitely does, And she's probably thinking, Look, 504 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of people probably listen to Matt's podcast, 505 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: So okay, so big news. 506 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: Whose man is this? 507 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: Influencer and pajama entrepreneur Lily Brown has shared her boyfriend 508 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: Jet Kenny's dramatic transformation. So last year, Jet landed himself 509 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: the role of Viking on Channel ten's Gladiators, So as 510 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: part of the role, he had to grow a very 511 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: thick beard. 512 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: Have you seen him on the show. I haven't watched 513 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: it yet. 514 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: I did love Gladiators back in the nineties, but I'm 515 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: yet to get back into the remake of it. I 516 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: think it's really a show for children, because I did 517 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: catch a few snippets of him on there, and that 518 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: was shared on Lily Brown's TikTok because she did a 519 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: video where she reacted to her boyfriend getting injured on 520 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: Gladiators and it was all a bit cringe like she 521 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: was imitating the commentator's voices saying Gladiators and it was 522 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: hilarious and I was like, Oh, I don't think I 523 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: could watch a full show of this. He actually disslocated 524 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: his shoulder in one of the first few episodes, and 525 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: it didn't look like it took much to pop out 526 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: because it was one of those games where they have 527 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: the big field and they have a few gladiators who 528 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: were trying to stop the contestants from getting to the 529 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: other end of the field. 530 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: Is that when they just tackle them? 531 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he tried to tackle one of the contestants and 532 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: somehow he popped his shoulder out. Did anyone else at sleepovers? 533 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Used to play that one where they had big padding 534 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: on their arms and had to run through a tunnel 535 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: and you'd use your pillows and just knock your friends over. 536 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: It was the best. 537 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: There were so many good games born from that show. 538 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: Oh what about the monkey bars when you'd get the 539 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: bark chips in your hand and return it with that 540 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: tackle powder. 541 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 542 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: Now, sadly the show officially wrapped a few days ago, 543 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: and because of that, Jet got a call from a 544 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: producer saying that he can finally shave his beard off. 545 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: So he's been growing it for over five months now 546 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: and it is getting to the stage. 547 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: Where it looks very wy. Lily referred to it looking 548 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: like Pubes, which was quite a spot on. See, I'm 549 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: not a big fan of beards. I like some stubble. 550 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: I think we've spoke about it recently how it's always 551 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: weird when your partner comes out clean shaven and you. 552 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: Haven't seen them like that for a while. 553 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: They look like a little boy. What did he end 554 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: up looking like? I haven't seen the transfer. Yeah, well 555 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Lily did create a whole video showing the transformation, and 556 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it because she took her TikTok followers 557 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: inside Jet Kenny's house, which he lives in with his dad, 558 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: who is iron Man Grant Kenny, and their house is 559 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: a fucking. 560 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: Mansion, Like he was epic. 561 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: They had these huge bedrooms with large on sweets, this 562 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: really grand staircase. 563 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: Makes sense why he lives at home at twenty nine. 564 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so Jet actually cut the beard off himself, 565 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: and as all men seem to do, he opted to 566 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: have these ugly handlebars before he. 567 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: Shaved it off. 568 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: I can kind of see why you would do that, though, 569 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: because you're never gonna keep it. But it would be 570 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: kind of like if you were cutting your very very 571 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: long hair and you're. 572 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: Like, oh, what does it look like? True, like a 573 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: bob or a lot. My jaw hit the. 574 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: Ground when Lily revealed what he looked like without that bed, 575 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: because he has such a chisel jaw line and he's 576 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: got these really cute dimples. Why don't the gladiators want 577 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: him to have a beard because he played a viking, 578 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: so he's got to have a bed. Wouldn't it have 579 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: been better to have him as like, I don't know, 580 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: a hot gladiator. 581 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 582 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: Well it was funny because Lily then filmed herself cutting 583 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: his hair, and so he was sitting there in jocks 584 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: with his shirt off, and she said, I feel like 585 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I should be getting people to pay me for this content. 586 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: At the moment, she ended up completely fucking up his 587 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: hair though, so he's got to go back to the hairdresser. 588 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: She did include a plug for her hairdresser, though, saying 589 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: that she definitely won't get a gig working for them 590 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: anytime soon. I don't give a fuck about Adam. I 591 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about Adam. 592 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: Okay, now we're doing on the second show. I'm tired to. 593 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 5: Bed with you. 594 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: With Love Islands Echin, Sue and David Ay have called 595 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: it quits for a second time. 596 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: So in June last year, they parted. 597 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: Ways, but rekindled their relationship two months later. However, it 598 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: looks like things are done for good. Eck and Sue 599 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: was on the front foot releasing a statement which claimed 600 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: she made the decision to end their relationship. She said 601 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: the last eighteen months together have been a rollercoaster of 602 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: ups and downs, and that they really wanted to make 603 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: their relationship work and they cared deeply for each other. 604 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: David Day hit back several hours later, claiming that their 605 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: split had been a mutual decision, despite the way Ecken 606 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: Sue framed it. So he wrote, life sometimes reserves surprises 607 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: and suddenly wakes you up. Ekin and I, just after 608 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: the skiing holiday, decided to go different ways. It was 609 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: a joint decision, but I was. 610 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: Waiting to make it public to respect her. 611 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: Time in the show. I don't know why the agreed 612 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: statement changed last minute. So the show he's talking about 613 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: here is a new show that she's in inn called Traders. 614 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: Was that the show that popped up because I follow 615 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: both of them on Instagram and there was this bizarre 616 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: scene where three women were lying in coffin. She was 617 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: one of them and they were being almost buried alive. 618 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the show. 619 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Because I couldn't work out if it was her reality 620 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: TV show or if it was acting. 621 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: It was so cringe. 622 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: Now. Dave and A did continue, saying that he regarded 623 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: their relationship as a beautiful story even though they had their. 624 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: Ups and downs. 625 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: I like the way that they've both emphasized ups and downs. 626 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: To me, it makes it obvious that there were a 627 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: lot of downs. He did finish by saying he is 628 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: taking time to focus on himself and thanked his fans 629 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: for their unconditional support. Now, as soon as I saw 630 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: the news of this split, I wondered, is one of 631 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: them or both of them going to make an appearance 632 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: on Love Island All Stars? 633 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: Fucking hope. 634 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: So I have been loving Love Island All Stars. I've 635 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: been waiting for you to catch up on her. I 636 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: am about four episodes behind, but it is so good. 637 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: It's got this X on the Beach element where they 638 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: keep bringing in all of the exes of the contestants, 639 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: and it's fantastic. If they brought in Dover Day and 640 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: Echon Suit fresh from this split, I wouldn't put it past. 641 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: Them, though no neither would I. 642 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: This Love Island All Stars has been a stroke of genius. 643 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: So basically, they're bringing back everyone's favorite contestants and the 644 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: show needed this. It has been so lacklustered the past 645 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: couple of seasons. 646 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: Well, I haven't even been able to watch it. We 647 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: have attempted. 648 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: My partner and I have been so keen to sit 649 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: down and watch it, and every season we have to 650 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: turn it off. And it has been reflected in the ratings. 651 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty three summer edition, it was down 652 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: by one million viewers on the previous year. So in 653 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three they had one point three million viewers 654 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: on the opening night, and back in twenty nineteen when 655 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: it was at its peak with Molly May, they had 656 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: three point three million viewers tune in, so it has 657 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: drastically changed over time. At the moment, they haven't seen 658 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: a huge increase in viewers in terms of the opening night. However, 659 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: I feel like there is a buzz about this show 660 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: and the way they're going in terms of bringing in 661 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: all these different x's and the. 662 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 2: Drama that they are creating. I think that it will grow. 663 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: What is different this time is that the producers are 664 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: trying to tap into the All Stars Instagram following, so 665 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: some of them have millions of followers, so they're promoting 666 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: the upcoming episodes on those channels, which is only going 667 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: to grow the viewership. Well, they're personally, not the people 668 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: that are looking after their accounts to But this was 669 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: actually banned the last couple of series, so we didn't 670 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: see anything of the Love Island contestants on their social 671 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: channels because there was so much bulling going on and 672 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 1: they just said, we're just going to shut them down. Well, 673 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: they said it was too difficult for friends and families 674 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: to cop all of the abuse, so those accounts just 675 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: lay dormant, and that's actually had a negative effect on 676 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: the recent contestants because their social media followings just did 677 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: not grow to the standard that we're used to seeing. 678 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely living for the storyline between Callum and Molly. 679 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: So they were on the show around three years ago 680 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: and Callum was the douche bag that stood up Shorner. 681 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: So she was this beautiful girl, most popular contestant on 682 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: that series, and he went off to castro or Moore 683 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: and hooked up with Molly and there was this iconic 684 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: scene between the pair of them where she called him out. 685 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: It was absolutely epic. 686 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Now, Callum and Molly were together for three years and 687 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: they only recently broke up around six months ago, and 688 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: now the first episode they bring them together, they're living 689 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: in the villa together and strangely they coupled up. 690 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Well, they would not do they. 691 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Were the two bombshells. So Callum had the choice of 692 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: coupling up with a new girl or staying with Molly, 693 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: and he said that he stayed with Molly out of. 694 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: Respect for her. 695 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: Fast forward to a couple of episodes and they're playing 696 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: a truth or Dare game and he gets asked how 697 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: many people have you slept with since breaking up with Molly? 698 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: He came out with sixteen women that he's slept with since, 699 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: and she was not happy. 700 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: I love all of the guys, are just like, why 701 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: would you not have lied? 702 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: The worst thing is he originally got a different question 703 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: and he was like, no, no, I need to hold 704 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: one fucking lie mate, like I know, or don't be 705 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: so specific, because the way he came out with sixteen 706 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: as if he's been counting them and just gave me 707 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: the complete easing. 708 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: I also don't like his new turkey teeth. No, I'm 709 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: not a fan of them. 710 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: It's clear though that Molly seemed open in the beginning 711 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: to getting back together with him. She seemed quite hurt 712 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: by the way that he'd acted since, but I don't 713 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: think they're getting back together. I love how they just 714 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: keep doing it though. So on the recent episode I watched, 715 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: I Am a couple behind, but they brought in Tyler, 716 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: who used to be with Kaz on the show, and 717 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: it's just like, this is brilliant. I really want them 718 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: to bring in Luca Bish unpopular opinion, but he was 719 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: one of my favorites on the series. 720 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago. He dated Jemma Owens and he. 721 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: Was infatuated by her, so I love him them to 722 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: bring him back to see what he's like as a player. 723 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: What about if they brought back Maura Higgins. I think 724 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: she is in a relationship, but she used to date 725 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: Chris Taylor, who at the moment is hooked up with Arabella. 726 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like it might have been a bad move 727 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: for him to go in because he was a fan favorite. 728 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: Everyone seemed to think he was really sweet and it 729 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: was quite endearing because in the season that he was 730 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: originally on, none of the girls were interested in him. 731 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: But now he has had a lot of interest and 732 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: people are saying that they now prefer Anton, who was 733 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: a bit of a womanizer in his series, because he's 734 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: grown up and he's a nice guy. 735 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: Anton was a womanizer. He wasn't that popular on his own. 736 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: Didn't he act like a bit of a dick in castroom? 737 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: All? 738 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: I just remember his mum shaved his arse, so that's 739 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: all I remember, and that no one wanted to hook 740 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: up with him. I actually tend to agree with the 741 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: feedback around Chris Taylor. 742 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: He's given me a bit of an ick. 743 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: He's coming across as a bit of a douche, and 744 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: that is what's also fascinating because these contestants are now 745 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: entering after having a level of fame, so there are 746 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: extra egos in there. 747 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: I feel really sorry for Liberty. Yeah, why did Jake 748 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: leave so quickly? 749 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Though? That was a bit unexpected. I didn't think he'd 750 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: really care about Liberty being there. The other thing is 751 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm shocked at how many hookups have happened between all 752 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: the contestants. I mean, I probably shouldn't be surprised, but 753 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: why do they all like Toby, Like Toby has hooked 754 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: up with Georgia and Arabella. My partner and I were 755 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: having this conversation because we both really disliked Toby and 756 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: I just find him to be this juvenile child, and 757 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: I don't get by all of these smoking hot women are. 758 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: Interested in him. 759 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: My partner said, does he appeal to you all? 760 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: I said, absolutely, see. 761 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: I kind of liked him more at the end of 762 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: the series that he was originally on because him and 763 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: Chloe were quite cute together the majority of the series. 764 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: He just irritated me. He came across is extremely immature. 765 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to bring Chloe in because 766 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: he was eluding that Chloe was the one that did 767 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: him dirty. 768 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: So I would like her to clear that up. 769 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Well, she has recently been in Australia, so I don't know. 770 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, she could make the journey back. 771 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: It's not a big flight, just get back on a plane. Now. 772 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: I do feel like we need to wrap that up 773 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: because we could probably talk about this show all day. 774 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: This podcast was recorded. 775 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: On the traditional land of the Ghana people of the 776 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to Elder's past and present. 777 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed today's show, could you please make 778 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: sure you are subscribed on Spotify and Apple Podcasts 779 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: And make sure you mention it with friends.