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Speaker 1: This is jam nation with Dalai Lama is now eighty seven,

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Speaker 1: and who's going to take over as Dalai Lama is

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Speaker 1: a big issue. He lives in India. Now, do you

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Speaker 1: want to give a quick background to what's happened to Tibet?

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Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty, Chinese troops invaded Tibet and formally incorporated

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Speaker 1: the region, saying it was always part of China. Tibet says, no,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about that Taiwan that's part of us.

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Speaker 1: Well. Nine years later, a Chinese general offered a supposed

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Speaker 1: olive branch to the Dalai Lama and said, please come

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Speaker 1: and enjoy a dance performance, but you have to come

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Speaker 1: along without any bodyguards or soldiers. And he and his

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Speaker 1: advisers thought this is a trap. So he went into

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Speaker 1: exile in India and a place called Darisalam in India,

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Speaker 1: and that's where he and his closest followers now live

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Speaker 1: in India. But he's still really being the Tibetan leader

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Speaker 1: but from there, so that's where we are now. And

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Speaker 1: what normally happens when a Dalai Lama passes away, because

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Speaker 1: he's only a Dalai Lama, he is reincarnated into the

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Speaker 1: next Dalai Lama, and they're wondering how this is going

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Speaker 1: to happen, because now with China still looking over and

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Speaker 1: still wanting to be involved, he's saying, oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how it's going to happen, trying to obfiscate and

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Speaker 1: not give too much information away. So he's floated many

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Speaker 1: options about who will take over his soul when he

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Speaker 1: leaves his human form, because it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: little Tibetian. Well, he says, it'll be someone. It might

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Speaker 1: be someone he chooses while he's alive. How that can

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Speaker 1: happen when it's reincarnation. I don't know. It might be

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Speaker 1: someone who's born in a quote free country. It might

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Speaker 1: be a woman, he said. So this is how normally

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Speaker 1: the Dalai Lama is chosen. For six hundred years, Tibetans

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Speaker 1: have been using ancient rituals and mysticism to find the

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Speaker 1: human form of the Dalai Lama. So as one Dalai

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Speaker 1: Lama leaves the world, the soul is reborn into another one,

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Speaker 1: according to their beliefs. So when the previous Dalai Lama died,

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Speaker 1: the one before we now know is a Dalai Lama.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen thirty three, a search party of time Betton

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Speaker 1: disciples used signs from his body to find his successor.

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Speaker 1: A head tilt and an unusual fungus on the shrine

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Speaker 1: containing his corpse pointed them to a northeast and Tibetan district,

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Speaker 1: so they go there. Then they check out a lake

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Speaker 1: traditionally used to see visions, and they found They kept

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Speaker 1: looking until they found a building that looked like something

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Speaker 1: they'd seen in the reflection in the lake. In a

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Speaker 1: small hillside town around there, they found a child who

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Speaker 1: took an instant shine to one of the previous Diala

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Speaker 1: Lama's close advisors and seemed to recognize his old walking stick.

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Speaker 1: The boy was a two year old who we now

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Speaker 1: know as a Dalai Lama. He passed every test offered

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Speaker 1: to him, and he could identify items belonging to his predecessor,

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Speaker 1: reportedly shouting that's mine, as all two year old kids do,

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Speaker 1: that's mine, Mum's khakis, those are mine anyway. Then, so

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Speaker 1: they took him and made an arduous trek across the

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Speaker 1: mountains to get to well, is it a great honor

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Speaker 1: for them to pick your child, to say this is

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Speaker 1: the reincarnation and if anyone's got a two year old,

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Speaker 1: you're ready to hand him over to anyone. So his

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Speaker 1: hair was cut, his clothes were swapped, actually was four.

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Speaker 1: His hair was cut, his clothes were swapped for the

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Speaker 1: monk's robes, and then he was given a whole stack

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Speaker 1: of tutelage on Sanskrit, medicine, philosophy, all of that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. Amazing. So what's going to happen now is

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Speaker 1: they're wondering how what happens do we wait for the

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Speaker 1: Dalai Lama to die? They say it's up to his

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Speaker 1: holiness because he's the one who's being reincarnated. And he's

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Speaker 1: turned eighty seven recently. At his eighty seventh birthday celebration,

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Speaker 1: it says here he relaxed into his chair, assign to

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Speaker 1: those close to him to say he's lost interest. Whether

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Speaker 1: that was in his party or life, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So seven and he now has to have two people

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Speaker 1: holding him on either side to help him wook. So

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Speaker 1: some little kid is playing marbles and chasing a chicken

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Speaker 1: in some rural area of Tibet right now, probably not

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Speaker 1: aware they are going to be selected to be the

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Speaker 1: new Dell Lama, because apparently they will be his reincarnation.

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Speaker 2: And one day he'll face the interviewing Mite.

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Speaker 1: He'll have to do all the tests.

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Speaker 2: Or face Karl Stefanovin walks into a pizza shop, pizza pizza,

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Speaker 2: pizza shop and says, can you make me one with everything?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Can you make me

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Speaker 2: one with everything.

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Speaker 1: Possible?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I knew that wouldn't work. Oh, excruciating. And the new

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Speaker 1: little kid's going to say, Nah, don't want that job.

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Speaker 1: Thanks terrible.

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Speaker 2: That's a great jake.