1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: But let's get into our first interview, because we know 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: that Luke Gosling well smashed his opponents in the seat 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: of Solomon to take the seat for a third term. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: The Australian Electoral Commission on Sunday tallied well that mister 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Gosling had received fifty nine point four percent of the 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: two party preferred vote in a seat which was considered 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: to be a swinging seat. Now it is the first 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: time that Luke Gosling's going to be in government since 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: becoming that member in twenty sixteen. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: And Luke joins me on the show right now. Good 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: morning to you, Luke Cadie. Congratulations. How are you feeling? 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh bit fatigued, No, it's all good. Yeah, really happy. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: I was just watching some of the footage of Elbow, 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: Richard Miles, Pennywong, Jim Chalmers and Katie Galler being sworn 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 3: in by the Governor General, which is awesome because they 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: can get off to the Quad meeting, which is a 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: meeting of the leaders of the US, India, Japan and 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: US which is really important meetings. So happy days. 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: Look what do you reckon? 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: That's the Saturday Night wins for Win means for the 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: people of the Northern Territory and indeed people of Solomon. 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 4: Well, it's a great opportunity. 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: I have been working for two terms in opposition to 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: try and keep the Government of the day to account 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: for their promises. Haven't always been successful in doing that, 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: but I've really been just embedded in the community in 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: a way where I have a good understanding about what 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: we need to make the territory an even better place 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: to live in Darwen and Palmerston to be respected around 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: the country as the capital of the North. We've been 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: successful in getting support from Federal Abor for some great commitments. 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: So now it's delivery time. The good thing for the 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: people of Darwen and Palmerston and Marian's looking good for 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: Lingiari is it will be to work with the new 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: chief Minisin and Natasha Files and Federal Labor with Territory 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: labor working together and delivering. 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: Now. 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: Have you spoken to Albow since Saturday night and how 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: are things looking in terms of you potentially getting a portfolio. 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: Well, Elbows spoken positively about that in the past. We 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: haven't had a proper conversation since then. He's had a 42 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 3: bit has hat a bit on, but we've traded some 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: text messages and you know, these things have worked out 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: through kind of a party process, a. 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: Bit of a bit of. 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: You know, r G bargie and so people will no 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: doubt see on the front page of the NT News 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: this morning. 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm just making. 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: It pretty clear that I've got a broad based life 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: experience in which i could contribute to a number of ministries. 52 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: So I've yeah, very definitely put my hand up. 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: What portfolio would you like to try and get? 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: Loke. 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: I am very passionate about the economic and social development 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: of the Northern Territory Darwin and Parmeerson obviously the seat 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: that I'm so honored to represent, but more broadly. 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 4: Across the North. 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot we can do so that 60 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Ministry for Northern Australia. I think that will enable me 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: to deliver for Territorians and I think it's about time 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: that we had someone from the North in that role. 63 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: Having said that, Murray Watt, who's the current minister, has 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: done a good job and has been up here quite often, 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: but obviously with a defense experience that I have being 66 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: a veteran working in our Indo Pacific region before politics 67 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: as I have, and the languages I can speak. I've 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: also said to Penny Wong, I'd be happy to work 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: with her in the Indo Pacific. 70 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Now, what posturing do you need to do to try 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: and get one of those jobs, because I think it 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: will be incredible for the Northern Territory to have the 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Minister for Northern Australia here in the Northern Territory. We 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: know that we've got so many opportunities we have. You know, 75 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: when you talk about our strategic location, there is so 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: much going for us. What needs to happen here for 77 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: you to pick up a role like that. 78 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: I think. 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: Across industry, and I know that the chiefnis is you know, 80 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: is supportive, and her support will also be important because 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: obviously it's you know, involves a lot of contact with 82 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: those with the three jurisdictions w A, the NT and 83 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: Northern Queensland. I guess part of my pitches that were central, 84 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: but we also can get into the region. So when 85 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: it comes to growing the live cattle trade, for example, 86 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: you have been able to speak Indonesians helpful, but we 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: can get over to Bai, over to Jakarta, over to 88 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: where we're working there and build on that. But we 89 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: can also you know I've worked in indigenous health at 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: the same time, so I can work across into the 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: Kimberley and into the Cape as well. So yeah, we're 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: pretty well placed here to do the job. Party processes 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: will now work out who's where. But I don't think 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: we should understand ourselves. We are the capital of the North, 95 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: at the fukrum of the Indo Pacific at the time 96 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 3: where there's more growth in our region of the world 97 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: than there ever has been in human history. Like we 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: are perfectly situated. And so with my background and experience 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: and passion for developing our country, securing our country, defending 100 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: our country. I wait to see we'll go down to 101 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: Camber early next week. I wait to see how the 102 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: wise ones work it out. 103 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: Well, look, I reckon it be a good thing. 104 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: It would be a oneer thing for us in the 105 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: Northern Territory, you know, to have our member for Solomon 106 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: actually as a minister inside that cabinet room and able 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: to fight for the territory and fight for Northern Australia. 108 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: We know in some of these seats across the board 109 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: across Australia, there has been a swing in some of 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: those areas some liberal strongholds particularly, but also against the 111 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: major parties more generally. But people voting for climate change 112 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: and that Federal Integrity Commission in those teal seats. Now, 113 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: what does that push towards climate change mean for the 114 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Northern Territory when we're largely seen as a gas powerhouse. 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's many ramifications from the weekend's result 116 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: that people are still, you know, sort of trying to 117 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: come to terms with. We still haven't got a majority 118 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: officially from the AEC. We've got at least seventy two seats. 119 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: A full majority is seventy six. We're confident we can 120 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: get to seventy seven for the first time, more independence 121 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: than there's ever been. But I don't shy away from 122 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 3: those conversations because it's clear to anyone that we've got 123 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: more land and more sun than anywhere else in the country, 124 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: and we're going to. 125 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: Have the world's largest soul of farm here. 126 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: It's not as if we're going to be dropping the 127 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: ball or not playing our part in renewaballs. When it 128 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: comes to gas, it's got to stack up economically, it's 129 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: got to stack up environmentally. 130 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: Water is precious, so do. 131 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: You reckon it can do you think that we can 132 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: be this manufacturing harbord and you know, really be tapping 133 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: into that gas in the way that the Coalition thought 134 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: that we could and would. 135 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'm really looking forward to the briefs from the departments, 136 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: both from the anti government side and from the federal departments, 137 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: to see where they're at with the planning, how the 138 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: business plans will stack up. And we're obviously committed, as 139 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: the Coalition did to the one point five billion. The 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: thing that I'm concerned about, though, I guess, is that 141 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: the multi user aspect doesn't seem sound to me when 142 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: I say that Defense hasn't been consulted enough and they 143 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: don't see where their role is and if this is 144 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: a secondary port, we still haven't been briefed on the 145 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: security review of the Darwin Port. That's something that will 146 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: happen in government, but it's really unclear. Barnaby Joyce didn't 147 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: make it clear. I think he's on your program a 148 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: couple of times. A Defense's view about such massive investment 149 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: needs to be taken into account, and obviously Richard Marles 150 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: as the Defense Minister and Deputy Leader, will have those 151 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: briefings now and then we'll move forward. 152 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: So, Loke, what do you say. 153 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the potential here that the port lease 154 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: could be handed back. 155 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Well, we just don't know what the security review is like. 156 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: We just haven't been brief. You've really got a wonder 157 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: why Scott Morrison and his team, who obviously played a 158 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: part in in the port disappearing from Australian hands in 159 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: the first place, would hide that security review, keep it 160 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: from the people before a vote. It's puzzling, but you know, 161 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: we are where we are. We need to be to 162 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: be brief by the security agencies, not just Offense but 163 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 3: the other security agencies and then we'll be in a 164 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: better position to take appropriate action. 165 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: Well, Luke Gosling, we are going to have to leave 166 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: it there because the Chief Minister has just announced this 167 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: cabinet reshuffle, so we're going to go across to her mate. 168 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time this morning. 169 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: Big congratulations to you, and I think it would be 170 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing if we had the Minister for Northern 171 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: Australia based right here in the Northern. 172 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: Territory on your main. 173 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: Fingers crossed for Marion and well done Malandari as well. 174 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: Thanks for your time this interest in a bipartisan way. 175 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 176 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's a good thing to make sure, 177 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, Territorians get it right and no matter how 178 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: they vote, you've always got to respect the way that 179 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: the electorate votes. And yeah, I think it's going to 180 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: be a good thing for us. 181 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: Good on you mate, Thank you.