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Speaker 1: The media has always tried to paint it as the

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Speaker 3: Because no one should have known who because you're still

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Bros.

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Speaker 1: We're here with an exciting The guest is not here,

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Speaker 2: He's not too far off from our last guest as well.

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Speaker 2: Probably around the same era, is it. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: Anyways, some exciting news. I just wanted to quickly mention

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Speaker 1: that today's episode, the flavor of today for X Street

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Speaker 1: is Bahama Breeze. Bahamad is if you were watching last time,

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Speaker 1: this is the one that caught my eye because it's blue.

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Speaker 1: Have a taste goody and tell us what you think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that tastes like what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: What the boys are testing it? We got we got

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Speaker 1: some mad challenges for Oxy Shed. For those of you

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Speaker 1: guys who watched the last episode, Man, this guy is

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Speaker 1: a ball runner, the owner of Shed. We love what

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Speaker 1: We got some challenges, upcoming challenges and some mad gifts

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Speaker 1: coming out from Jay Lex tell us about how it's going.

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Speaker 2: I recently saw that there was a reactor from UK

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Speaker 1: We're going all the way, going all the way.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing bro. And just so you guys know, we

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Speaker 1: We thought it's only right that we follow what Jay's doing,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this this little side channel I started on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Out to the back of the class. Now, those fellows

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Speaker 2: You know the mad thing that well, I don't know

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Speaker 1: in a very interesting T shirt. Is that your brandable?

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Speaker 3: My brand makes for me that people all the time

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're busy, man. I've seen you be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how amazing is that? How proud of you? For

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Speaker 3: Very proud as a parent. You want nothing but better

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Speaker 2: He's never said I love you, old man like, he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you think that's to give him a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like we'd to testimony. A lot of I've

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got a daughter that plays in RW for

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Speaker 1: the media. Relevant everyone. They've always been. The media's always

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Speaker 3: But any publisher, he's good publicer's that's what.

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Speaker 1: That's what.

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Speaker 3: That's what the media don't know. Kept me relevant.

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Speaker 3: Just we we like being together as a family outings,

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Speaker 1: This guy is a legend. He's pretty much greater the Empire.

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Speaker 2: For those that don't know this, so I've told all

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Speaker 3: I think everything love all your stuff was twenty one

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Speaker 3: I'm reaping everyone. Yeah, yeah, man, guys with beef, but

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Speaker 3: Once I went to jail, you know, I always told

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Speaker 3: first grade.

434
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, you know, you went to jail the first.

435
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: Time for for an assault that he didn't He wasn't involved,

436
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: he was just standing there watching it because he was

437
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: part of the crew.

438
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: They charged him.

439
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: They charged him with the fray and he got twelve months. Wow.

440
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: And the two boys he was with whom I loved

441
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 3: the death with my nephews that boy found on parole

442
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: one got eight months, I got nine months and my

443
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: son first offense, got twelve months. Because because the judge

444
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: was game for the for the top job of the judges,

445
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 3: she had to make a statement. My son twelve months

446
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: and as I said, the two nephews who I loved

447
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: your death, we're both out on parole, got less to

448
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: an egle Woa.

449
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: And this is what what's dangerous about the media is

450
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 1: that he could have influenced the judge judge's decision because there.

451
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: Was a lot of meat that no one should have

452
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: known who he is because he's still playing in the

453
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: lower grades because of the surname.

454
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

455
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: But then the second time when he was for drugs, Yeah,

456
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: and then he sat back he said, all these boys

457
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: that run with coming, no one's paying for my bills,

458
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: Dan's paying and then you sort of hitt him. Dad

459
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: was right the whole time.

460
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I seen him. I seen him say it in

461
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: the family home evening you guys had He was saying

462
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: that he realized his family was there before anyone.

463
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: He only asked boys were there too? Yeah, when she

464
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: hits the fan, who's got your back?

465
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man? So that gave me good sponsor, man, because

466
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: just knowing what he had to go through, my lot

467
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: of our family would have had to go through the

468
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: same thing. But I've never actually asked my dad, So

469
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: I thought an as to ask you, what was that

470
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: experience like having to look after him while he's gone

471
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: to jail? What was that experience did you have?

472
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like he needed to leave him

473
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: alone to learn it the hard way?

474
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: We're always there because I was always there. But at

475
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: the same time, I thought, this guy needs to learn,

476
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 3: he's got his learn, just pull back. But then just

477
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: the hard me thinking that, but then the softomoves game.

478
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: That's still my son. But my wife doesn't work, she

479
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: shoes hard, so you know, you pay no, let him,

480
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: let him learn. But at the same time, I couldn't

481
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: do it. I couldn't not pay put money into his account.

482
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: Being a dad, he needs to learn. But at the

483
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: same time, I couldn't do it. I pay next week,

484
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: but press always pressed sent.

485
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy, my dad actually gone through the

486
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: exact same thing. So my oldest brother will Now he's

487
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: been inside for a year now, but when he first

488
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: went in, my dad kind of just like gave the

489
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: cold shoulder and he just like he was taking it

490
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: out on us. He's like, see, look what happens you guys.

491
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 2: You put your brother in the shitter and he goes

492
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: Now he's got to go learn it the hard way.

493
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: And then but every time, every time it comes to

494
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: uh that, like I think it was the next couple

495
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: of days, you will message the group chat and say,

496
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: what's the b pay?

497
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: I'm not paid, But then always send the money because

498
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: still I wanted him to learn. But being a dad

499
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: and Hollands, we'll be we're hard, but we love, we love,

500
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: we love hard, we love hard, We act we act hard,

501
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: but we love hard.

502
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: Quote.

503
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 3: And that's what I did, was acting. He needs to learn,

504
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: but I could not not send you money. Yeah, because

505
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: I loved him that much. I had to send you money.

506
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: And how is he now has he he's already passed

507
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: all of that game phase and.

508
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: He's got over there. He just wants and what sort

509
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: of hit me? Because I went and visited him. Near

510
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: the end of his sentence, what do you want to

511
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: do when he gets back? Is you want to get

512
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: back in your Foody goes, Yeah, but I just want

513
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: to be my girls, he said, two daughters. We just

514
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: want to be around my girls because I've been way

515
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: too long because I bought up the girls. Okay, because

516
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: I just I went away too long and they need

517
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: me in their life. They got you, but they want me.

518
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: I need to be in your life too. Yeah, And

519
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: he's never ever said that before. Wow, that sort of

520
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: because I just want to work and I want to

521
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: take care of my family. You never said that before.

522
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: The first time was in and he goes, I can't

523
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: get wait, get out. I want to get back and

524
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 3: start playing footy, which he did get at the first time.

525
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 3: He started playing first grade. And then he came back

526
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: because I sent him to Brisbane to get away from

527
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: his mate mates. Okay, so you can just hang around

528
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: footy mates. And then Broncos didn't weren't going to re

529
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 3: sign him and there were three clubs in Sydney. One

530
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: is resigning. He came back to Sydney and leave you

531
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: me and then you started hanging with his mate mates again.

532
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: That was it.

533
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: So he was he had three clubs that wanted to

534
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: play first grade.

535
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shows how it just shows how strong like

536
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: you're influencers surroundings are. Because I remember I used to

537
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: in my juvenile days. I used to try and bring

538
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: my mates over. My dad used to always chase them

539
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: out with a stick, and he used to always tell

540
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: me to stop hanging around losers. And I used to think,

541
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: what's wrong with this book? You know it's true because

542
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: I used to always think broke because my dad was

543
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: a pastor. So I used to think, how are you

544
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: like preaching this and that? And you don't want to

545
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: accept my friends. But I found out at the end,

546
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: Bok he was right, So true. I was the same.

547
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: When I came up, I was hanging. I was living

548
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: in Manly Remdia, Campbelltown, start hanging on the wrong crowd.

549
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: I was getting in troubles, getting locked up just you know,

550
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: for been for assaults and stealing cars and stuff like that.

551
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: And one time I got charged for I sold them.

552
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: Robb and my embarrass had told me I was definitely

553
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: going in minimum six metal of nine, and so Bob

554
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Ford out and there you guys know him. He's a

555
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: legend of the game rugby league. He was our coach,

556
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: told me he's the Australian coach and the manly coach.

557
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: And I took him to court with me for a

558
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: character with this and I don't know what he did

559
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: or what he said, but I got off. She never

560
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: got off. I got told I was going in and

561
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: because he was a big influence, because who he was

562
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: as a as a person, and I said, I took

563
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: him to call with me, and I know what he said,

564
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 3: did you the judge butt a It was a miracle.

565
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: If he never did that, I would not have a

566
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: I would have had a fully career if he never

567
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: come to court with me. And from then they moved

568
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: me out of camel Town, mainly Bob Falling did and

569
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: put me in the house here and then I started

570
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: hanging around with my friend friends, my futy friends. So

571
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: I stopped worrying about all that gangs and stuff and

572
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: just worried about up playing first grade. And I try

573
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: to bring all my kids up in mainly just I

574
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: got nothing against my parents will live out west. But

575
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: every time all my nephews had to grow up west,

576
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: a lot of them getting into trouble because I just

577
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: hang around the wrong crowd. It's so true, the common crowd.

578
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: You think it's the right crowd because your boys, but

579
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: it's the wrong crowd. They all go to jail. So

580
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: I was trying to keeping.

581
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Mainly that's the smartest thing.

582
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: Because all the island is in mainly they got they

583
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: don't have a fight here in there, but chasing your girls,

584
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: they chasing. They are chasing girls, trying to look for fights.

585
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: They're looking for chasing girls. Where when I was in

586
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: camera down since you got that the first thing you

587
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: want to But when it was in Manly, man, yeah,

588
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: want to go and chase the skirt.

589
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true actually because some of our mates from

590
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: many ways, they were always like just monocle in there.

591
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: They didn't care about It's tough than that.

592
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: Because well because people Manly, even though island is not

593
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: locked that Andy fight, that's something happens. They will step

594
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: in the fight, but they don't worry about fighting. The

595
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: worry about chasing skirt. Just chasing girls, don't worry about

596
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: the fight life.

597
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of n RL career and your boxing careers, which

598
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: one did you sort of like more when it came

599
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: to n RL and boxing.

600
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: Well, I grew up playing rugby league, so winning a

601
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: grand final for rugby league was the best ever. But yeah,

602
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: so I won the Australian title for for for boxing

603
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: and there's a great and a great achievement. But it

604
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: did not feel the same as when I won the

605
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: Grand Final. Yeah, it was like it was like when

606
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: I won, I was like, yeah, I wondered, but and

607
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: it's a credit chairman. But on a Grand Find I

608
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: had party for the whole week because I was this

609
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: is a big pie. Won the Grand Finding with these

610
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: boys the whole year, then you finally get to change

611
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: the winning the best feeling ever. Yeah, as I sat

612
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: taking nothing away from boxing, but just didn't feel the same.

613
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: Maybe because I grew up playing rug league and my

614
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: my first love is I need took out boxing because

615
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: I didn't want to work. I didn't want to do

616
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: a nine to five job. So because when because I

617
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: had a name, I had sponsors that paid me to train.

618
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: You know, I had my money, my fight money, and

619
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: because there was no one here in the boxing world

620
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: in Australia, but only because I had a name. Yeah, people,

621
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: most people come to watch we lose. Yeah, I didn't

622
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: care because that money is you get. It's like Chuck Mundine,

623
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: he's one of my best mates. Like he's you say

624
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: stuff tuck away from the meeting. It's completely differ It

625
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: is a beautiful person, but he he said some stuff

626
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: in the media and he's to drive it mad. And

627
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm paying to watch because I can't stand this bloke care.

628
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah when his pocket, well the money in his pocket,

629
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: so he's Okay, you're dealing with these people. Are not

630
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: feeding these people? Who cares? Who comes in? He hates

631
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: you because you're still paying You come and watch me?

632
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: Money still get him more pocket.

633
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: That's that's true. And you know that. That just reminded

634
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: me of this question. My dad really he really pressed

635
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: me to ask this for you to explain, because my

636
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: dad was always a massive union fan. Yeah, he loved union,

637
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: and he was saying something along the lines of uh, like,

638
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: is it is it the differences between league and union?

639
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: Is it? Like, do you have to be brought up

640
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: in like in union to want to play union or

641
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: is it a money thing? Like why is it harder

642
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: to get into union or is it just that it's

643
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: not as popular as league.

644
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Well, rugby when I was coming up, Kid was very popular.

645
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 3: Wallaby is a very good and I don't know if

646
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: you guys remember he's the first time they played for Australia, williof.

647
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: And go clear.

648
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: He's the first for for for Australian. It was big

649
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: back then, but Lee had when you grab some union boys.

650
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 3: But the league is I think is bigger now. If

651
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: nothing taking nothing against rugby, but if league boys learned

652
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: how to play.

653
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: Rugby, yeah you can, they'll dominate it.

654
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: Dominant if and I said, I love the rugby boys,

655
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: but if league and rugby had a game against each

656
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: other and playing like one half head to play league

657
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: and then the other half have to play rugby legal

658
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: beating by.

659
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: Fifty, that's crazy because it's more physically.

660
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: The most physically and I've seen league kids come up

661
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: they learn how to play rugby. You just chill the

662
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 3: leagues when they're playing the rugby COMPETI rugby us because

663
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: they're just this feelings because remember league's more one on

664
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: one contact and you've got to get legal run back

665
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: ten minutes, then come up and try and take small

666
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: and once the league has learned the rugby, you just

667
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: tell the leagues that play rugby so much better well

668
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: and what's with.

669
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: The like because it feels like there's some some weird

670
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: feudal tension between rugby league and union. For example, when

671
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: was was he got that deal to go over to union,

672
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: everyone in the league was like begging him like they

673
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: were upset about it, and I was because I don't

674
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: follow fully that much. But the way I think is

675
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: if you get a good deal, you think go for it.

676
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: You got to take it. But the league not so much.

677
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: A leagues would A lot of the rugby were bagging

678
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 3: and you're saying, why we have to go different code

679
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: and bring on them when we can We've got kids

680
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: in our own code. Yeah, but it's true for I

681
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: think for the Wallabies when you walk up, they need

682
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: more leagues, they need page more leagues to coming to

683
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: into the rugby rings. Their last coach for Australian rugby,

684
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: Eddie Jones, that was his target was just to go

685
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: get league league. He even said he himself for us

686
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: to win the World Cup. It's true you know, I've

687
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: seen you coming up as kids. You can tell the

688
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: kids that played the league and the kids played played rugby,

689
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: the ones that league is learn how to play rugby,

690
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: just dominate the feelings, not scared of contact. Once they

691
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: learned how to the rock and stuff.

692
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: You just tell you go dad, that's why. That's why.

693
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: Because yeah, because I think my dad was a big

694
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: fan of the All Blacks and he was telling he

695
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: was telling my mom that, uh, when rugby union started

696
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: getting like kind of phased out when we're growing up,

697
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: he just kind of grave gave up his hopes on

698
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: putting us in footy. But he didn't see the trajectory

699
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: of how the n r L is now, see how

700
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: big it is now. He didn't see how big it's

701
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: going to be as it is now when.

702
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: I when I was playing, it was like, you'd be

703
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: lucky to be two Islanders in one one team, one club,

704
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: two or three. Now you're thaw through the rings. Yeah,

705
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: everywhere in the juniors is like sixty percent sixty seventy

706
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: percent Islanders in the juniors. And I don't know what

707
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: we've got in your seniors, but that's what we got

708
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: in the juniors. So we just got to get more

709
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: and more. And as I said when I was playing,

710
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: it was a lot too. We'll be lucky to be too.

711
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: Well.

712
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: It was only me and Solomon Himana mainly were new ones,

713
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: but you know there's Polly's everywhere.

714
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they play a big part in.

715
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 3: I'm more for it this international game, I'm loving it.

716
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: Or all the Tomming boys are going back there. They

717
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: always will pick yeah, But now I want to start

718
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: moans to do the same thing because if because at

719
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: the moment we're getting all the games tom again, all

720
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: the games, but we're still being dominated, they'd still tell

721
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: us what they do. But if some moa is strong

722
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: and we're strong, then we've got leagues are standing on.

723
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: You know, then you start saying no, we don't want

724
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: to do that. Yeah, we can start make conversations, but

725
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: now it's more like we say whatever they say, we

726
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: get yeah, okay. But if we're both strong, then they

727
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: can't sort of bully us around. And this se for

728
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: the Australian the Pacific Champions is the first time and

729
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: has given us a bit of money because they know

730
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: they need.

731
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: Us, so they never gave before.

732
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: We just had to fund your own stuff, but this

733
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 3: one they've given us a bit of money. Whatever sport

734
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 3: in Australia. Have you've seen a team from overseas come

735
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: and play Australia and the crowd full of Spacific Championships.

736
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: It was Australian home game and the crowd was read

737
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: read never insane. It never happens. It is like in

738
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: New Zealand. We played New Zealand and the whole standum

739
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: that New Zealan one is crazy stadium is read. People

740
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: just passionate. Just when we we love, we go to lose.

741
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: That that's the difference between our supporters and swall around

742
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: the world. We're gonna lose, We're still party, Okay. We

743
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: we party when we party like we when we lose. Yeah,

744
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: that's what we're say. Good.

745
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: It's all about standing together.

746
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: When you lose. And you supporters do that and.

747
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: You can tell it's kind of rubbing off on on

748
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: some more. And because I've just seen paying Hess has

749
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: pledged is a leaders.

750
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 3: That's excellent. Me and this guy named Frank Padi. Yeah, Frank,

751
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: we've been for years, been trying to push some of

752
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: these guys to go back. You know, we we still

753
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: we both know what's going to happen. We're both strong,

754
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: then we've got both legs stand on and now there

755
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: some ambles are starting to turn. But they're not like

756
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: the tongue. The boys would always pick Tongue first. Okay, well,

757
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: when I was playing, I'd pick Australia only because the

758
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: money was crazy. The difference. The difference was difference. But

759
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: now these guys getting paid really good money at their clubs.

760
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 3: They club contracts. You don't worry about the care.

761
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: That's how it works.

762
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: Because do you remember when they had a fundraiser where

763
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: like that's that's I think that time when you were saying,

764
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: like no one was funding Tom, it was from our

765
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: own pocket. And then I think someone done to go

766
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: fund me to raise some funds for that.

767
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: But that that gave fund me. Some guys trying to

768
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: make care me come and say, hey, we don't we

769
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 3: got our own money. Yeah, you know when we first

770
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: I said, I used to get a lot of my

771
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: gangs amazing. Give me listen, give me money. I need

772
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: to play some play. The sagey games is too good,

773
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: you know, you know, giving me money and I was

774
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: paying your tongueing boys, it wasn't much but at least

775
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: I got something, you know, something, because when I played,

776
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: we were noodles, noodles a bull for two weeks, that's all.

777
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: We every day had an own bottle, water bottle. We

778
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: had your feeling fill up every day if you wanted

779
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: to drink a train just to make sure you be

780
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: your own bottle. But these guys are sport now. But

781
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: I'm just saying the stuff we had, you gave for him,

782
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: and the stuff that they do now is crazy.

783
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

784
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: I remember when because I think you're the one that

785
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: caught out the scammers.

786
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: I see it. It was in the twenty seventeen World

787
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: Cup when someone came to these guys were the funding page.

788
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: You fund these guys while they're in camp and stuff

789
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: with nothing, But we had everything. Yeah, you know they

790
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: had you come out and say no, no, no.

791
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: No no, Yeah, I don't believe believe it.

792
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: If we wanted something, I'll come out.

793
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: And SA, You'll come out and say yeah, that's what

794
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: he said.

795
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: I'll come in and say not not someone just some

796
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: random guy to come out and say we wire Someone

797
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: in your staff will come out and say that we

798
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: need Yeah, you.

799
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Know what was crap? I feel like a lot of

800
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: a lot of ol Tongan people. Unfortunately, a lot of

801
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: people did fall for it because they're a lot of

802
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: more fun though, you know, they just wanted to help.

803
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: It's true, a lot of people did fall for and

804
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: pay for it. And that's what made me feel bad

805
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 3: because no, we didn't need it, and I feel so people.

806
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: We struggle as it is, but we will because we've

807
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: got big hearts. Make it, make do with it, make

808
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: deal with it. You know, we grow up. Were in

809
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: Rice for two weeks just as long as we give

810
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: money for Covina. Ye, parents always got to give money.

811
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: What about the kids? You gotta utiful for two weeks.

812
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: But we have to do this. It's just the way

813
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: we are.

814
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much the guy funding end up making.

815
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: I just remember a lot of people were upset. This

816
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: is when Instagram wasn't that big. But on Facebook, I

817
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: saw a lot of statuses of people upset. I don't

818
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: know if they hit you up. The people that did

819
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: get scammed, and.

820
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: I just came, I just saw that gave fund me.

821
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: I just come outs. Yeah, it's because we don't need it.

822
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: It was good that because he because he saw it

823
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: straight away, and if he hadn't caught it out in

824
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: the beginning, I think a lot of people would have

825
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: lost more money. So it was good that you caught

826
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: the attention.

827
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: Straight away because it was put on Facebook and I

828
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: saw it. There's one thing with our people. I love

829
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: our people and I hate ripping our people off exactlykay.

830
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: Just like when I get stuff and my people ask

831
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: me for stuff I can't and I have to pay.

832
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: I'll pay for it just to give it to him.

833
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: It gives me from my finger t shirts, you know,

834
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: I don't make him to sell them. And if someone

835
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: ask me for it, I'll pay for the shirt and

836
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: send it to him. That's just how I am. I

837
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: can't I can't say, oh, that's that's how much? Just

838
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: how much it costs me? Can you simulate and I'll

839
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: give it to you. I can't do it. I don't

840
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: know why. Sometimes I think I should do it with

841
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: some people. I don't even know my people. I can't

842
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: help myself. I'll get it done and send it to him.

843
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Man ill applauded for that. The dog has a big heart, man,

844
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: and it's always Some people have seen him on the

845
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: media for controversial stuff, but this is the kind of

846
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: stuff I love about John and it actually brings me

847
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: to money. Next question, I did notice, like you, you

848
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: motivate a lot of your kids, and you push you know,

849
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: you push up people to do good things in the community,

850
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: and you also look after like a lot of people,

851
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, where do you get your

852
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: motivation from? Or like you do you look up to?

853
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: What's your inspiration that keeps you going? And having to

854
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: be this advocate for everyone else?

855
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: Well, the way I am is my parents. Yeah, okay,

856
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: all I remember growing up my mom always bringing people

857
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: over to a house from Tom and giving him my

858
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: life and then nay with out. That's all I remember

859
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: is uncles and Annie's living with us, and we had

860
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: had a small house just heaps of ours siblings, but

861
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: were always made by it. But my dad would bring

862
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: anyone you know was struggling. You always bringing me. My

863
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: mum was sometimes can you stop bringing people in struggling?

864
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: You always brought someone in and you always made him

865
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: pay their rent, And yeah, that's that's always like And

866
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: is joble my mom crazy? That's because my dad didn't

867
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: care as long as he was helping somebody. And just

868
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: all I remember was always someone living with us because

869
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: he was always helping someone out. And I think there

870
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: was one story where he someone wanted to come over

871
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: Tom and said, he told my mom to pretend to

872
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: be his wife to marry him, just to get this

873
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: guy over from I can't do that. But still we

874
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: know you're not getting married for real. You know you're

875
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: you're getting married for real, but it should be married. Yeah,

876
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: used to bring him over.

877
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: So you actually this whole up stuff like that.

878
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: No, can't you know it means I'll be really married

879
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: to him, what is divorced, marry him and then to

880
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: get him over and then we get back married again.

881
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: Will I can't do that. Yeah, that's but that's the

882
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: stuff he'll do. Man that because.

883
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: That's a different type of heart. Bro.

884
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: That's mad.

885
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: But at the same time he did. There was a

886
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: lot of times where he would spend money and I'll

887
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: give him. He meant to to my mom and that

888
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: he would give fake over and I gave him. I

889
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: remember my time. My mom didn't find out who he

890
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: passed away a couple of years ago. Read in his journal.

891
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: I gave him money to deposited the house and camel tewn.

892
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: He took that money when he splurged in America, he

893
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: went when splurged, you went fake over and he didn't

894
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: tell my mom. My mom was always where's that money?

895
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: You know I gave it, I really gave it to

896
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: you give him my dad. He didn't. It wasn't until

897
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: he passed when you read the journal or he John

898
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: came and gave me moneyed you to to buy a house,

899
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 3: to positive house, and in America.

900
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: I guess he's got to have a bit of balance.

901
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: It was to be the balance, bro Yes.

902
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Speaking speaking of that, like you and your for doing

903
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: very well with holding the kids together for a lot

904
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: of us as a mission looking after raising kids, and

905
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: I'll see how close you and your wife are very inspiring.

906
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, what's some advice maybe you

907
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: could give to young couples that who are going through

908
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: the same thing and who think we can't do this,

909
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: we can't go the kids together, we can't stay together.

910
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: I'll see you and your wife still having fun. You

911
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: guys enjoying moments.

912
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: I think because we stay close, but we have family

913
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: and meeting as you say in that TikTok, we do

914
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: that every week where all the kids come together and

915
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 3: we all just sit there and we do stuff together.

916
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: And then it was just becomes so normal. The kids

917
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: just say closer, and we don't and sort of some

918
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: we don't have we don't do stuff, and they're just

919
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: doing themselves because they're so used to us doing it.

920
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: And that's my dad did it to us as siblings.

921
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 3: And so once a month we get together as siblings

922
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: and all the kids and do a femine but us

923
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: And that's part of our churches in the Mormon Church

924
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: that we do. We do that every week. If we

925
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 3: can't do it, the kids do it. And the kids say,

926
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: my kids are say close. Whenever one will go they

927
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: go out. They all go together to eat together together.

928
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: You know, I saw a video. I was it. Actually

929
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: it was so they made me my fund out. I

930
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: saw all the kids were just dancing in the room.

931
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: You see that everyone's just.

932
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: Dancing like a family home was random and you've got

933
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: a room full of kids. I don't know how many

934
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: they were, but they're all pack in this little room

935
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: and they're all just dancing, the older kids and the

936
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 2: younger kids. How beautiful is that? Bro like that that's

937
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: not really showcasted as much today, you know, everyone's always

938
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: in their own world today and us coming from a

939
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: big family man. When I saw that, like it almost

940
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: brought a tea tomorrow, because once upon a time we

941
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: were like that. But somewhere along the way we all

942
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: just kind of veered off into our own power and.

943
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: There's normal life. But they all got the other things

944
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: to do. But you know, we've got to try and

945
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: keep that if we keep it on together and everyone

946
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: still has their own lives. But I always remember we

947
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: all got to always come together once a week. And then,

948
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: as I said, me and my wife could be away,

949
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: but they will still do it. We don't have to

950
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: push them together, take him out for lunch, you don't

951
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: do anything. We don't have to do that because they

952
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: do it themselves. Because they say used to being together

953
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 3: and going you have together and doing stuff together.

954
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: That's mad.

955
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And for those of you who don't know what

956
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: that is, just to give you guys a bit more knowledge.

957
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: The family home evening the moment, just they get the

958
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: families together and everyone makes sort of uh maybe catch.

959
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: Up, there's not a catch up, and then you give

960
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: a spiritual fall like some bible, tell a little story

961
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: just for the kids, just keep some sort of gold

962
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: stuff in the family. But then we we talk about

963
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 3: you know, we we we have difference. If you died,

964
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for what I did to you this weekend.

965
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: Stuff like that conflict as well, and can you tell

966
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: them what me and my wife saying this week This

967
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 3: is your job make sure the bath friends are clean.

968
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: So everyone's got a job. Yeah, it's not just or

969
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 3: god it but just like a family trying to keep

970
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: the family together as well and making everyone do something,

971
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: not just me and my wife. So we go somewhere

972
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: and everyone knows their role in the house. Just sit

973
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: there and wait for us to come and do reything,

974
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: because you will get that for my time.

975
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: I did see that that text message on Facebook, you

976
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: know that text message. I think it was you and

977
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: your son. Yeah, and going back and forth.

978
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: My daughter asked me if she if she can do

979
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: my lashes or last thing I ain't lashes for. Leo

980
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: said to me, I just just just do it for

981
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: content puff you know, when I don't bash you for

982
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 3: what that maybe me bash.

983
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 2: You, oh boy.

984
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: But then he sort of got in trouble from the

985
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: Integrity Unions from the NRL because someone send it to

986
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: the to them, saying, because you said puffn't you have

987
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: the world's going He said, you can't say stuff like

988
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: that mainly me and said, oh, can you take your

989
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: down because it's because the n r OL Integrity Unit

990
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: is your son tell them. Therefore, they're not telling me

991
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 3: what to do with when when when I'm not playing football.

992
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: And plus that was a family check. My son didn't

993
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: put it up. Me and my daughter put it up.

994
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: He can't get in trouble for our own family check.

995
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: He you had nothing to do with it. It was

996
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: just it was me and my daughter pulling it up.

997
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: Said the kind of convoys we have at home. And

998
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: but they went, oh, good, good on you man.

999
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: Because I hate I hate the way they paint some

1000
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: of the the players as if everyone's a player and the.

1001
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: That's what Willie Mason was saying as well, like they

1002
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: expect to control and even the behavior.

1003
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 3: It's like they control everything. And that's why he's getting

1004
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 3: trouble because they expect you to be this person on

1005
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: the field. But that was not me. I'm not going

1006
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: to play the way because you want me to be

1007
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: an angel, it would be an angel's not That's not

1008
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: me as a person. I was a dirty bus and

1009
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been, but I couldn't help myself. But

1010
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: they try to bring take that all away from me

1011
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: as they're doing today today's game. You can't do anything.

1012
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: You can't do anything.

1013
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: Rugby of the game was it was this system, this controlling.

1014
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: Even back then.

1015
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: It was not but not as bad as not as

1016
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 3: bad as now. You can't, like we should be able

1017
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: to say stuff, but you can't even saying as I'm saying,

1018
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: I said, there's our family check put in trouble suspended

1019
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: for that. Yeah, we're saying that's insane, that's crazy, and

1020
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: you know what.

1021
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: You know, John, I want to ask you something like

1022
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: for us, we love our dad, right, he's a very

1023
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: old school, old fashion, just like yourself. But I feel

1024
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: like when I saw that, I like, one thing I

1025
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: noticed is that you have this type of like like

1026
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: the relationship you have with your son, it's kind of

1027
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: like a best friend, kind of like like mates, you know,

1028
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: And with me and my brothers, like, even though we

1029
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: love our dad, we always felt like we we were

1030
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: on such different levels. We don't even call our dad dad.

1031
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: We call him by his first name, oh he's middle name. Sorry,

1032
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 2: and we never we don't like it just feels weird

1033
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: coming off our tongue saying dad, so we call him,

1034
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: you know, and like I feel like when I saw that,

1035
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, how did you build that

1036
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: friendship with your sons where they feel comfortable to say like.

1037
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: Because this is my that's my everyday language I call.

1038
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: I call my kids my boys faggots and puff your

1039
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 3: freaking crap today, and that's my normal language. And then

1040
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: they start talking. Now my grandsons call it and said,

1041
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: will come past me and you'll keep running. But because

1042
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: it doesn't worry me if they do it, but because

1043
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: they know I know they're mucking around it, they will

1044
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 3: never do it.

1045
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: It's context.

1046
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: It's a macarround because I would never do it angrily

1047
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: because they know I won't copy that. And you know,

1048
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: my kids will never as you kids do yourself to

1049
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 3: your day. You never show your day dishespect yeah you.

1050
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: And it's hard because it's a lot of the fob

1051
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: dads to say they keep within themselves and they don't

1052
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: show love. Yeah, it's just the way we are and

1053
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't really show up. But my kids, now, I

1054
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 3: love my girls and my boys know that I love

1055
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: my girls more than the boys. My girls can wake

1056
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: me up for anything. It was just to drive me

1057
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: down the one hundred meters. But my boys and know

1058
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: that to come near me unless it's something really important.

1059
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: It's gonna be something really important for them to come

1060
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: and wake me up. Okay, when my girls can wake

1061
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: up for anything. But it's just the way I think

1062
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: tongue and alland the dad's are. I don't know what.

1063
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: It's not like we try and act hard. It's just

1064
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: we just it's just hard for us to show love.

1065
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: And we were and you know you have you ever

1066
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: seen your dad holding your mom's hands?

1067
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: No?

1068
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: Never, never, And I would.

1069
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: Actually never heard him.

1070
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: I love you know, no one. I've never helped my

1071
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: seeing my mom, my dad hold my mom's hand. But

1072
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: then we've got eight siblings.

1073
00:55:53,760 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeahs is love is that we just don't know where.

1074
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: It's somewhere that we don't show show it. I don't

1075
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: know why, but that's the way we are. Yeah. Well,

1076
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: I went home, my wife saying in finding the kids

1077
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: and when the kids is not a reund Yeah, but

1078
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: it's just the way we are. We we we love,

1079
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: but I don't know what we don't really show it. Yeah,

1080
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: all of the men show it more to their daughters.

1081
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: And yeah he can be more soft.

1082
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 3: Than more to my girls. Yeah there my boys.

1083
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Well we can't we can't argue with that because whatever

1084
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: he's doing, he's great.

1085
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: It's working.

1086
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah in our roll stars and the kids are so

1087
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: happy that the marriage is happy. Everything is going good.

1088
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: Who's the Who's the black shape of the family.

1089
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: Or Jamil Jamill was Yeah, in jail, and you know

1090
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: he's always been like a nord kid coming up. You know,

1091
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: all his crew that he come up with, or my

1092
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: nephews all in jail. Ye, love them when if he's dead,

1093
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: but all Tongeing boys, Yeah, but they went. They're all

1094
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: nought the all Norty kids, and he just was with them.

1095
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: Would you would you say you were the black sip

1096
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: of your hundred? Was?

1097
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the only black. I was always in trouble,

1098
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: you know. And as I said, if I didn't they

1099
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: didn't move into mainly away from came to different story,

1100
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have had a No one will know who

1101
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: I am. I've just been another tongue in the crowd,

1102
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: the youngest. I'm number three, just out of us. I'm

1103
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: number three, okay, so my oldest you two older sisters

1104
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: may even.

1105
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: He must be a superstar back home. But in tonguere

1106
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: like when you go over.

1107
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 3: There, you know, as I said, the tongue is only

1108
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: know the ones they're playing. Now you've got the King,

1109
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: then you've got and they're all into They all know them,

1110
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: they know who I am, but not like not like

1111
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: the boys in Australia. Are more people name me more

1112
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: than what they would in Tongue all the time is

1113
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: in Australia would.

1114
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: Name me more than when I'm in tong Tongue's on

1115
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: his on their way too. I think like we were

1116
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: missing halfs for a long time, not missing necessarily, but

1117
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: like Bro Isaiah cartoon man, he's he's Bro, He's mick

1118
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: man man.

1119
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: But he was like he come into camp. I think

1120
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: it was twenty twenty one. Christian Wolf was in was

1121
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: in England. He couldn't come over and coach at MIDGI

1122
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: tests with playing New Zealand and he was a kid,

1123
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: he was still in school. We bought him in just

1124
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: for experience and because I was said him play as

1125
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: a kid coming frequently play against my son Leo yeah,

1126
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: and the coaches at the time were because what he's

1127
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: doing now, he was doing training and they were like, oh,

1128
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: he's playing his hand. I'm going no, this kids can play.

1129
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: If it was up to me, i'd pick him, and

1130
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: but then he picked. They picked what's his name money.

1131
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 3: He's played for Saint George. I forget his first name.

1132
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: Because he played first grade. He said we have to

1133
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: have him. He's played first grade. He's only played. He's

1134
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: the big played, he's est well. But he played one

1135
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: game or he played a grand final for pen twenty one.

1136
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: He won him the grand final. This kid can play.

1137
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: He say they didn't pick him because the stuff he

1138
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: was doing now, but because I said he's over playing

1139
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: his hand, but all the stuff he was doing then

1140
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: and he's doing that. His kid's a freak. Yeah, he's

1141
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: a freak. He was doing it back then four years ago. Yeah.

1142
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have seen him that

1143
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: he's the half back for Dolphins. Dolphins, like because I

1144
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: always knew that he was mad, but like lately, this

1145
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: guy is different. A he's doing something like crazy stuff,

1146
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: like crazy stuff crazy, and.

1147
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, where's the captain there for the Dolphin's

1148
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: twenty one what the captain big just massive call for

1149
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: twenty one year old to be given the captain stale

1150
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: just the stuff he's doing, like given the legs of

1151
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: the game and saying he's crazy. Yeah, he can't be

1152
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: doing stuff like this at his age. Ye, don't do

1153
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: that stuff. And two you older, Yeah he's doing it.

1154
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: This is his second year, first, second year, first grade,

1155
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: first second or third year first he's doing it already.

1156
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1157
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Blake Broke twenty one seeing I

1158
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: think they've already locked in. Have we already locked in

1159
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: our tongue? The team?

1160
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's part of he'll be part of them.

1161
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1162
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: Are we beating some more? One hundred percent, one hundred

1163
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: percent confident we will? You know, I love all my boys,

1164
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: but we can lose. I'd lose to Jamaica than lose

1165
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: you some more friendly rivalry. Yeah, it's lovely boys, but

1166
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: I can't. I just don't like losing to someone.

1167
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1168
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bad day for everyone.

1169
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: We're on that level tongue of us some more? Is

1170
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: it on that level of origin?

1171
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: Like it is? All the boys go back, it will

1172
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: be and they're talking about doing it and maybe keep

1173
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: the origin at the start of the year and do

1174
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 3: what's at the interviews and the football still going. But

1175
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: you know we said we all love each other. When

1176
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 3: we play each other, I love hate them. Yeah, we

1177
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: love you, but during the game we hate you. Yeah

1178
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: and shake hands out of the game. Just the way

1179
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: we are is our roll. Yeah, this is when New

1180
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 3: Zealand play Australia, they love each other. When they play

1181
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: they hate each other.

1182
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: Now that we know Payton Husse pledge allegiance whose name,

1183
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: will you be worried if they come up that they

1184
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: pledge allegiance to.

1185
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: Some more well all of us, because he's a beast

1186
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: this world and you've got what's then the fallback for

1187
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: Dolphins hammer Yeah, yeah, that's why seeing Yeah, he's a

1188
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: beast as well. So all these guys come and then

1189
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: you got the New Zealand guys, family Alta and.

1190
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: The Penriff guys.

1191
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: So they and they haven't even shown the allegiance to someone.

1192
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: But even though it's good, but we need them, we

1193
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: need them to to to jump into it's going to

1194
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 3: help the international game. It's going to help us as

1195
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: well as Tonner. So we have a mouth. Yeah, because

1196
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: we're there, we're playing a big games, but we still

1197
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 3: don't have a mouth.

1198
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: And I think in I think, like subconsciously, I always

1199
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: kind of like even like being proud of my tongue

1200
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: and team. My wife is half some warning, but like

1201
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: I always like, I always kind of vouch it, like

1202
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: in the back of my head for them. I hope

1203
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: that they like get their players that they need, you know,

1204
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: because it just makes the rivalry.

1205
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: Like that much better, and that must be I want

1206
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: them to all games. Yeah, I'm just going to make

1207
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 3: it so much as I said, the rather be harder.

1208
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 3: We're going to hate each other more during the game,

1209
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: but we we love each other after the game. During

1210
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 3: the game, we really we're not there to make friends.

1211
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: We're there to win. But some mates and one of

1212
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 3: my best mates is we've grown up kids. Mm hmm,

1213
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: it's just that time when we play the mate.

1214
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of, I wanted to ask you about the infamous finger,

1215
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: just a personal question. He's probably already been asked before.

1216
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: Maybe we haven't seen it because we're still young. But

1217
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: with the with the thing was that he's broken a

1218
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of virginities and I always there hilariously afound hilarious,

1219
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: Like that's something that it's like, you know, one of

1220
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: the boys.

1221
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: I was actually I was actually too young, well not

1222
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: too young, but I think I grew up. My parents

1223
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: were I know, my dad was a big fan of

1224
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: your work.

1225
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: Well, the reason we did it because it was too slow.

1226
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: The plaintaball down because guys didn't lock the house has

1227
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: been touched. You touch ours, they don't try and push

1228
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: through the table. They drop. That's the reason I started

1229
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: doing it to stop them running because they like you know,

1230
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: they hit the line they're trying and push. Just touch

1231
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: hours again. Then push him because you're touching the hours

1232
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: and pour down. That's the reason why I first started

1233
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: doing But now I make it a joke because prostate

1234
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: cans is the biggest killer for men. And I tell

1235
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: her it was just all I was doing was saving lives, doctor.

1236
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: I was just saving I was just checking to make

1237
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: sure they were safe. Give you this idea or you

1238
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: came up with it, like, no, I just came up

1239
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: because I was doing the training. I just did the

1240
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 3: training and you just saw the reaction of the guys

1241
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: like jump straight on their back and I'm doing the game.

1242
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: I was chasing guys houses on the field. So yeah,

1243
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: then I'm running around trying to chase it. Sometimes I'll

1244
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 3: be running away from you. I'm running circles.

1245
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: Run.

1246
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: But I did see one because in the best position,

1247
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: the guy.

1248
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: I was raising awareness to protect. That's the biggest killer

1249
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: for men. Yeah, so then I should have paid me.

1250
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah spending, We should have paid me. I took the

1251
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: game globally no one. No one knew we weren't India,

1252
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: but they knew who I was. Yeah, you guys should

1253
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: have suspend. You should have paid me the game global I.

1254
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: Used to have. I used to have a staffage on

1255
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: and went like, you know, how do these peoples in

1256
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: that day? Sometimes they fight their jow lock on each other.

1257
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: So I told me to get them to let go

1258
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: stick your figure. So I thought about you straight away

1259
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: with this guy told me I was laughing my ass

1260
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: off at pep. What are you laughing like that? Nothing?

1261
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: And then I thought, is that Because that's what I thought?

1262
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Where you gotta from me from the because it's a

1263
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: known fact. Everyone knows too if if people are locking

1264
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: on each other.

1265
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 3: Just off, I said. The video that on on TikTok

1266
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: there was dogs locked and the man did nothing to

1267
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 3: do with it, just walked past me, walked over there,

1268
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 3: we go, Let go.

1269
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: There, Let go. Actually, I actually love how you had

1270
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: a strategy that was outside of the box, something that

1271
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: no one would would.

1272
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: Have thought about. That. It wasn't like making jas like

1273
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: we seeing videos and laugh. We've seen guys running away

1274
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 3: from my fingers dropping the ground, you touch your house. Yeah,

1275
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: that's the whole reason why I started doing it was

1276
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: to just playable.

1277
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: What was the coach happy?

1278
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: Like what you were you're saying and he was laughing

1279
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 3: to our video sessions on a comedy session, was there

1280
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: was laughing the head of touching the horse and you

1281
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 3: guys are dropping in the ground.

1282
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: I didn't actually watch the game, but on the field,

1283
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: was it like was it a penalty or did it?

1284
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: Did the play on the play?

1285
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: When did you start pamizing it?

1286
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 3: No, I did, because one the one where you see

1287
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: that when you were talking to when was just poked

1288
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: and he went and complained to the ref and said,

1289
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: how about the touching? Keep some finger in the house.

1290
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 3: And then I went to the ju jitsuary. But the

1291
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: angle they gave us is one. They gave me one

1292
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 3: angle and it looked like I was just giving you aggie,

1293
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 3: and so that's what I went into the to the

1294
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: judiciary with saying was and then they came with nine

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Speaker 3: different angles and I was like, holy, I couldn't I

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01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: couldn't fight. Yeah, you have this changing these bosses up

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: because that same field where they found a nine angles,

1298
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: I got need in the scrum by Paul ra he

1299
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: was playing with the cowboys. He needs you in the scrub,

1300
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: and so I started punching him and then I got

1301
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 3: suspended for for frying the punch and nothing happened to him,

1302
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: and I said, well he needed me, and I said, well,

1303
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: we went to and I said angles because I thought

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01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 3: they were going to give me the ninety one angle.

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: And the angle they gave was one. There was the

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01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: sky angle. All you see it was name me. And

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 3: then he came in. You see me punching, So I

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01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 3: was suspending. But that's the same field them. But then

1309
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 3: when it was me taking, you know, taking it along

1310
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 3: for fighting, trying to say I'm innocent, and then you

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01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: found the sky angle where a.

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Speaker 1: Man I just want to find whatever cells, whatever cells

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: in the newspapers, A man, John, we're coming up to

1314
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: the end of the thing.

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: I guess I wanted to wrap this up with saying, like, obviously,

1316
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: with us when we're going up, we didn't get the

1317
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: privilege of playing n oral, you know. But a lot

1318
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: of the young Islander boys that don't make an orel

1319
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: and they don't have the facilities or parents or even

1320
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: support to be able to play these games. What would

1321
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: your advice be to these young Tongue and some mons

1322
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: or these young Islander fellas in the area.

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: They don't make an RL's just don't. If you don't

1324
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 3: make it, it's not the end of the world. Just

1325
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: keep trying or get a job. But we gotta surround

1326
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: yourself with good people. That's the main thing I do.

1327
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 3: Because if you start, if you get the crabs and

1328
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 3: you start hanging around your gangster mates, you just need

1329
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 3: to put yourself in trouble. We've got to surround yourself

1330
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: with good people because good people will always send you

1331
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: the right direction. If you're doing something dumb, don't come

1332
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 3: and stop you with your boys and you're doing something dumb,

1333
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: they'll come and join you. Yeah, you're not gonna help you.

1334
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: You're making it worse for you, because hey, good work.

1335
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: Bak yeah, they laugh it, they make it. They make

1336
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: you feel, oh, man, I'm gonna keep doing this where

1337
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 3: you're good good mates. They said, what are you doing? Man,

1338
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 3: you can't do that, but you've got family. Then they

1339
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 3: pull you back in your line. Yeah. Yeah, And that's

1340
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 3: my only advice. If you you can't make it, it's

1341
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 3: not any of the world. There's big and better things

1342
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: in playing Nurla. Get a family or all your family

1343
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 3: love you, but you've got to surround yourself good people.

1344
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 3: If you don't, and normal Mason in Campbelltown majority of

1345
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: nine only even went to jail surroundings with the wrong people,

1346
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 3: with the wrong crowd.

1347
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 2: So would you would you reckon them?

1348
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: Like?

1349
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 2: Because a very interesting thing you said to me that

1350
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: because surrounding surround yourself with good people is very profound

1351
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 2: statement generic a lot of people say it. But one

1352
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: thing you changed was you actually took yourself out of

1353
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: that environment.

1354
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: And they move they move me.

1355
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: They moved me to Manly and you know, surrounding us

1356
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 3: of footy players and then I was hanging them all

1357
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 3: the time and they don't give in trouble because they're

1358
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 3: trying to make a career. And then that's what pushed

1359
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: me because when I was hanging came town, I had

1360
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 3: the wrong people. I still wanted to play foody and

1361
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: sometimes I go mistraining because these guys want to go

1362
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: steal a car humping and steal a car. Training. I

1363
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: was just lucky enough. I was good enough to still

1364
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: be able to miss training and I was still picking

1365
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: because I was I was good enough to be in

1366
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 3: your team. But yeah, you's got but one big thing.

1367
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: You's got to surround yourself with good people. As I

1368
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: said my son Jamil, I send him to Queens, then

1369
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: you get away from his mates, end up playing first grade. Wow,

1370
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: because he all that you was concentrated on footy and

1371
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 3: his mates as soon as he came back. Just because

1372
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: he's going to start and the new club start hanging

1373
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 3: with his mates again.

1374
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: Straight to jail, Powerful, Powerful. Just before we end the

1375
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: podcast for you, any of your loved ones that are watching,

1376
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: is there anything you'd like to say?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if I can say,

1378
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: because they know who I am. You just got to

1379
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm a big god, theary man. Yeah. You know, you

1380
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: know I do some dumb stuff and you know I'm

1381
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: hard in front of the cameras there, But when when

1382
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: the cameras around, forgive me for my sins. And you know,

1383
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: just we've gotta we all grow up fearing God, and

1384
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: it's all my family and friends. You've got to keep

1385
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 3: the same thing. No one's better than anyone God fearing,

1386
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 3: be humbled. That's all it is. Say and that's what

1387
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 3: I tell my kids. Be humbled. You're never bigger than anyone.

1388
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: So if you're just because you're playing first grade, if

1389
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 3: you go to someone who's down here, don't stay up here.

1390
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 3: Bring yourself here. I don't wants someone that's up here

1391
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 3: thinking you're too man. If he's got nothing, you got nothing.

1392
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: Don't say I've got nothing and you say, oh I've

1393
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: got Xbox this. No, no, you bring yourself down. You're

1394
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: the same level. You're not. Never think you're better than anyone,

1395
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 3: because you're not.

1396
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: And with all the praise that we've given you, and

1397
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: everyone knows that giving you for the actually like all

1398
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 2: the accolades of your kids, that all of the achievements

1399
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: they've made, do you think then that like God played

1400
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: a big part in the successes of your children and

1401
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: also your specially as.

1402
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 3: These talents were given through God. Yeah, he brought us

1403
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 3: in this world. He gave us his talents. We we

1404
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: just have to make these talents better. Yeah, he can't.

1405
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 3: He gives you the talent is up to you work it,

1406
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: to work it and make it better. And I was

1407
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 3: just lucky enough I played first grade and then the

1408
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: younger kids just seeing what I did and wanted to

1409
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 3: follow my footsteps, which was lucky. I didn't follow my

1410
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: other footsteps, but they followed. My biggest thing is do

1411
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 3: as I say, not as I do. So I said,

1412
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: like I do them dumb stuff, but my kids name

1413
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: thank comming me. That's me. They used to do it,

1414
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: I say, not as I do.

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 4: We appreciate you having you on the show. Thank you

1416
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 4: guys so much. Well that's time to wrap it up.

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01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 4: Make sure you guys like comment and subscribe. John Hope

1418
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: out there giving you the ropes on bros and cons.

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Speaker 1: That's it for now.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you on the next one.

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned, peakin you can YouTube. Did you want to

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Speaker 5: hear with a coop with a cool comes queen moved

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Speaker 5: a queen.

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Speaker 2: Dude will never understand the things that we