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Speaker 1: And he's told differently, I'm Georgie.
Speaker 3: Tunney, Georgie alluding to a very secret mission she had
Speaker 3: in Japan during the week. Now, because as you do, George,
Speaker 3: it is a pleasure to be here. What a week
Speaker 3: again in sport, it just feels like he keeps getting
Speaker 3: bigger and bigger and.
Speaker 1: I can't keep up, I know.
Speaker 2: And on that I want to begin with some rather
Speaker 2: big news. That's my good sport of the week, and
Speaker 2: tell me I'm giving it to your hometown. The WA
Speaker 2: Premier has confirmed that Earth is getting a rugby league
Speaker 2: team from twenty twenty seven, allegedly the Bears.
Speaker 3: They're back, they literally said in the announcement twenty seven
Speaker 3: or twenty eight. But it's happening. It's happening, and so
Speaker 3: the North Sydney Bears for those that haven't fallen nurl me,
Speaker 3: we're around like twenty five years ago that were part
Speaker 3: of the league and then they've essentially been relegated to
Speaker 3: use a very football term, and there is a dormant
Speaker 3: body of fans yes, that are waiting to be back
Speaker 3: in love with this team and support them. So in
Speaker 3: one part it's really clever because you have a pre
Speaker 3: existing fan base. In the other part, have you looked
Speaker 3: at flights from Sydney to Perth recently? I'm sorry Bears fans,
Speaker 3: but if you're planning to see them at the new stadium,
Speaker 3: good luck to here.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I want your opinion on, because
Speaker 2: you're very, very well placed. Do you think that rugby
Speaker 2: league will work in Perth? There's two sides to this,
Speaker 2: what's your signe ah? Two sides to my side to
Speaker 2: this is that I grew up in Perth.
Speaker 3: Obviously as an avid sport lover watcher, very integrated in sport.
Speaker 3: I thought it was really weird when I watched breakfast
Speaker 3: television they spoke about these mythical dragons or some bunnies
Speaker 3: like I just I genuinely didn't understand what I was
Speaker 3: watching or why it was relevant, because if it's rugby,
Speaker 3: it should be about the Wallabies. Yes, And that's as
Speaker 3: someone who was very engaged in the sporting landscape. And
Speaker 3: then I moved to like to Sydney for an internship
Speaker 3: with Fox Sports and they asked me about rugby league
Speaker 3: and I said, I love the Wallabies direct quote, so
Speaker 3: you can understand why I wasn't allowed on it for
Speaker 3: a very long time. So I think it's hard to
Speaker 3: there's some knowledge gaps there is. It's hard to overstate
Speaker 3: how little people care about rugby league as a general rule. Yes,
Speaker 3: state of origin packs out, okay. But this is the
Speaker 3: second part, is that we get fourteen I become West
Speaker 3: Astralian very quickly. Fourteen to fifteen thousand at the Wildcats
Speaker 3: every week. Yes, if you give West Australians a winner
Speaker 3: and a loser, we will rock up in numbers because
Speaker 3: sport is our thing. So I genuinely believe that it
Speaker 3: will be embraced. Will people wear guernsies but have absolute
Speaker 3: you no idea what they're talking about? Sure, but that's okay,
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 2: I think that if it can just be a spectacle
Speaker 2: for those initial years until the Perthians what do you
Speaker 2: call personalities?
Speaker 3: What is sand I think we're sand gropers.
Speaker 2: Until the sand gropers understand those who reside in the
Speaker 2: big state the incredible game that is rugby League, and
Speaker 2: luckily is Harry Grant, our guest said last.
Speaker 1: Week very easim very easy to follow.
Speaker 2: So I think it's also an excellent time for them
Speaker 2: to be launching a team because the AFL teams aren't
Speaker 2: doing very well, not just success wise wise, not supporter
Speaker 2: base wise. I know that you know the Doctors, the Eagles, you,
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. Please please sand Gropers
Speaker 2: don't come for me. I understand that you love those teams,
Speaker 2: but because you're not going to really be winning a
Speaker 2: flag realistically for what ten years, either of those teams,
Speaker 2: let's infiltrate good work.
Speaker 3: Good work, Peter Landing, good work, the story. A lot
Speaker 3: of people had Fremantle in their top four this year.
Speaker 3: They're just not executing where they should be and West
Speaker 3: Coast are rebuilding, but West Coaster never really down for
Speaker 3: that long. They're a very successful club for a long time.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see the real estate that NRL could
Speaker 3: possibly get in me too, like I just want to
Speaker 3: see the sort of coverage that they could potentially get. Yah,
Speaker 3: but it puts the N in NRL. I'm hearing those
Speaker 3: you can't you can't claim to be a national competition
Speaker 3: without half the country.
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing number one ticket holder abs gelmy, come on,
Speaker 2: come on, the jersey's nice if they stick to the
Speaker 2: old jersey, it's nice jersey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I saw a lot of them. I was
Speaker 3: actually in Magic Ground over the weekend and there are
Speaker 3: a lot of people wearing the jerseys.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like you know, for Red and Black.
Speaker 2: They're always like rugby league fans were chaotic, because no
Speaker 2: matter what sporting game match code across the world, there
Speaker 2: will always be at least one rabbit Oz jersey there.
Speaker 4: Why true.
Speaker 2: It could be at Wimbledon and there's a rabbit Os
Speaker 2: fan in the top corner and it's like, sorry, what
Speaker 2: why how.
Speaker 3: Did you get did you? How did you get here?
Speaker 2: You've taken and you've made that choice to take up
Speaker 2: valuable luggage shy.
Speaker 3: I blame Russell Crowe because truly, why else would they
Speaker 3: have a global presence?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's my good sport, good sport of the week.
Speaker 3: That it's a massive It's a massive story, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I've got a very quick bad sport. And then I'm
Speaker 3: just going to say it and move on. I've got
Speaker 3: a good sport. Okay, stop giving the finger.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: It's so juvenile, it's so stupid, it's unnecessary, and young
Speaker 3: kids watch you. And I was listening during the week
Speaker 3: and they had a woman call up a radio station.
Speaker 3: She said, I watched my son out the back wholesomely
Speaker 3: kicking goals. We've set up some fake goals out the back.
Speaker 3: He celebrated them. Then he turned around to our water
Speaker 3: cooler and gave it the double bird. No, and I've
Speaker 3: just thought, first, like, we've got kids trying to pretend
Speaker 3: to be Bailey Smith giving inadimate objects the finger. And
Speaker 3: I'm sorry if you think, well, we're allowed to express ourselves.
Speaker 3: This is what happens. And so then as parents and
Speaker 3: as you go, how am I meant to explain to
Speaker 3: this kid that this isn't cool when they do it
Speaker 3: again and again, And no one's saying that crowds are
Speaker 3: well behaved and that the vitriol that keeps getting worse
Speaker 3: and worse that's coming at these players is okay. But
Speaker 3: I do think it is easier for the AFL or
Speaker 3: the league to police the players in their response. And
Speaker 3: that's All you have is control to how you respond
Speaker 3: to this thing, because the crowd are only going to
Speaker 3: get more raucous yes to get this response if they
Speaker 3: think they're going to get it. George, Yes, hate it,
Speaker 3: aren't it.
Speaker 2: This is such a great call for you from This
Speaker 2: is such a great call from you. I am one
Speaker 2: thousand percent with you because you know what you might
Speaker 2: be okay with seeing Bailey Smith do it on the
Speaker 2: field and you think, oh that's great and try It's not.
Speaker 3: The only one. Harley Reid made it his propile picture.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm a fair footy fan. We understand that.
Speaker 2: So don't get and clear, don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 2: love you know some personality. We always ask for it,
Speaker 2: but there's a very big difference and it's very confronting
Speaker 2: when you put that picture up against a three year
Speaker 2: old doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just no, no, no, no, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: West Australians all stood up and gave the finger in
Speaker 3: support of Harley Reid giving the thing like I just think.
Speaker 2: But imagine when Harley Reid eventually comes back to a
Speaker 2: Victorian club, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Do come for me? Then the entire MC like whenever
Speaker 1: he goes back.
Speaker 3: To people given the finger like it's it's just it's.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I don't like it. I don't. I do
Speaker 1: not like it. I do not like it. We're not
Speaker 1: the fun police.
Speaker 3: No, but hey, this is a sort of m if.
Speaker 3: I well, I'm sorry. If I walked into work every
Speaker 3: week and when I was a little bit annoyed gave
Speaker 3: the double bird in a meeting on the way, I
Speaker 3: just gave, there would be I would be given a
Speaker 3: few warnings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just so you know, dear listener, I just did
Speaker 2: the double bird to jell me. Then I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like my hands, it doesn't feel right. No, apologize.
Speaker 2: I look like Bill and Ney with the arthrod.
Speaker 1: Like it was bad.
Speaker 3: It was so bad.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm not that human, So stop it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll call hr and we'll have discussion, a discussion.
Speaker 3: I can't even speak about that afterwards because that was
Speaker 3: very confun you came at me. No, but I again,
Speaker 3: that was a bad sport. Let's not focus on the
Speaker 3: next the good sport. Oh yeah, is there a better
Speaker 3: sport in Australian sport than Neil Danaher? Oh what a
Speaker 3: human Australian of the Year and what he has done
Speaker 3: through his M and D diagnosis to then have fight
Speaker 3: M and D and the Big Freeze and just his
Speaker 3: courage in putting his story out there and his family
Speaker 3: are just the most phenomenal people. But I mentioned this
Speaker 3: because the Big Freeze eleven beanies are out. I'm using
Speaker 3: a prop which is useless, useless when it comes to
Speaker 3: a podcast, but they are out that you can buy them.
Speaker 3: I think it's Coals and where else, Bunnings and different.
Speaker 2: They pop up, honestly everywhere and I love this time
Speaker 2: of year, especially in Melbourne, but hopefully around the country.
Speaker 3: They're everywhere.
Speaker 2: You just see everyone walking around in them and it
Speaker 2: just does spread the awareness so much. And the danaher family, yes, Neil,
Speaker 2: but the entire family has just done incredible things.
Speaker 3: For this course. Since twenty fourteen, one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 3: million dollars for M and D research, including fifteen clinical
Speaker 3: trials and thirty four drug development projects.
Speaker 2: Australian of the Year for a reason. What a human
Speaker 2: with that segue potentially a future Australian of the Year.
Speaker 1: I'm calling it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm calling at the very least the second best
Speaker 3: sport in the country. If we're gonna if we're gonna
Speaker 3: have to have kneel Danaher on top. He arguably is
Speaker 3: one of the most liked athletes, I would say in
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, And we have this person coming
Speaker 2: up for you, dear listeners, in a matter of moment.
Speaker 3: You are welcome.
Speaker 1: You are welcome.
Speaker 2: But before we get there, we just wanted to remind
Speaker 2: you the last time you may have heard from him,
Speaker 2: it was from this devastating post fire interview from the
Speaker 2: paras Olympics.
Speaker 1: I've been though all the same, teach. I'm believe you
Speaker 1: must make you so proud.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, made two decades dedicated to one drave and
Speaker 5: it's over, just like that.
Speaker 3: May you're feeling after this morning.
Speaker 4: I feel pretty.
Speaker 5: Numb right now, but I'm sure your next month or
Speaker 5: two will be quite challenging, quite hard.
Speaker 4: I feel I feel from my mind gets the better
Speaker 4: of him. I feel like I've let myself down.
Speaker 3: And I know if you've.
Speaker 5: Ever with down made, Gods, what do you do not
Speaker 5: at all, Harry, have let yourself down made.
Speaker 3: There are thousands of spectators here, and so many of
Speaker 3: them Australian.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to have them in the crowd.
Speaker 4: It's massive.
Speaker 5: Australia is such a sporting nation and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's so hard to listen to. It's really hard
Speaker 3: to watch. And it was the moment, I think where
Speaker 3: all of Australia went, Can we just give this bloke
Speaker 3: a hug? He had such high expectations for himself heading
Speaker 3: into the Games, and understandably so. He was already an
Speaker 3: Olympic medalist and he had just had his eyes on gold,
Speaker 3: and then to be out of the Games in your
Speaker 3: very first fight, and as he said, when you've been
Speaker 3: two decades of work and this is the pinnacle. The
Speaker 3: devastation was there. But what we love is that raw honesty, vulnerability,
Speaker 3: and with Harry Garside, that's what you get.
Speaker 1: He's coming up after.
Speaker 6: This, let's get ready to remold.
Speaker 2: And the crowd goes wild because coming up right now
Speaker 2: we have someone who fights stereotypes, intrusive thoughts and sitting still.
Speaker 2: He's been on I'm a celeb, Get me out of here.
Speaker 2: He's coming up on Dancing with the Stars, he's an
Speaker 2: Olympic medalist. He's got a fight coming up. May you
Speaker 2: please welcome one of the greatest humans. It's Harry Garca.
Speaker 4: Yay, Harry, are you guys? What an intro the greatest humans.
Speaker 4: I'll take that.
Speaker 3: Proud ourselves on making people feel welcome.
Speaker 1: We really do, we really do it. So wonderful to
Speaker 1: see your face, Harry.
Speaker 3: The last time Georgie ran in to you, you weren't
Speaker 3: aware of, but I received a phone call from Georgie going,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm in Bronty and Harry Garsid just
Speaker 3: ran past. He lapped me eight times.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: George can tell the story.
Speaker 1: This is a true story, Harry.
Speaker 2: I was walking with my partner Robert along Bronti and
Speaker 2: we were coming up to our own training regime for
Speaker 2: a reality show called The Amazing Race, and I was
Speaker 2: just about to start jogging when I only just felt
Speaker 2: some wind past me.
Speaker 1: Like just I was like, whoa, what was that?
Speaker 2: It was like the whole world had shifted, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't quite sure why.
Speaker 1: And it was because you had.
Speaker 2: Sprinted past me at such pace that it was like
Speaker 2: I'd been swiveled around like a Warner Brothers Bugs bunny cat. Honestly,
Speaker 2: you were going so fast and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: he can't go that fast up the hill. And then
Speaker 2: we just stood there and watched as you did go
Speaker 2: I think, even faster up that huge hill between Bronti
Speaker 2: and Bloody Clavelli, and then went.
Speaker 1: By the time time we got to the hill, you
Speaker 1: were coming back again, and.
Speaker 3: I was like, he back again.
Speaker 4: That's the thing about I absolutely love running because I'm
Speaker 4: always trying to run away from my head noise. But
Speaker 4: unfortunately you can't get away from us.
Speaker 3: You really can't. But clearly working for your fitness, Harry,
Speaker 3: tell us a little bit, how is your training going,
Speaker 3: because we're less than a week out from fight night, right,
Speaker 3: so what's tapering look like? What does this week look
Speaker 3: like for you?
Speaker 4: So my last hard session is tonight, we got we've
Speaker 4: got six rounds asparring. It would be like probably the
Speaker 4: intensity level will be about eighty percent, so still like
Speaker 4: relatively starting to pull back. But after tonight it's just full,
Speaker 4: full seam ahead about making weight. So you pull back
Speaker 4: on the training and you'll you really focus on just
Speaker 4: getting your weight right, which is so exciting I absolutely
Speaker 4: can't wait for it.
Speaker 3: Is that Sauna's running with tracksuits, like we know what
Speaker 3: jockeys do to cut weight is insane. But with the boxing,
Speaker 3: how important is it to keep your strength up while
Speaker 3: also cutting weight and how do you find that balance.
Speaker 4: I think jockey's probably cut harder than what we do,
Speaker 4: just purely because they, like we are genuinely competing with
Speaker 4: someone else. They're obviously competing with a horse, I guess,
Speaker 4: but yeah, competing with who who was trying to really
Speaker 4: hurt us. So we can't cut too much, although a
Speaker 4: lot of boxers do do probably a bit too much,
Speaker 4: and I think that does sort of show on fight night.
Speaker 4: But I'm sitting in a really, really good range, so
Speaker 4: I'm really excited to sort of get in there next week.
Speaker 4: And it's been so long out of the ring. July
Speaker 4: last year was my last fight professionally, was three years ago.
Speaker 4: So I'm a lot of pressure, a lot of inside noise,
Speaker 4: but also very excited to sort of push through that
Speaker 4: as there is a lot of nervous energy. I think
Speaker 4: at the moment for myself.
Speaker 1: How is that head noise?
Speaker 2: Harry, One of the reasons that Australia and we love
Speaker 2: you so much is because you are always so open,
Speaker 2: You're honest, you're raw.
Speaker 1: About everything that is happening.
Speaker 2: With you, like, what is the anxiety, like if there
Speaker 2: is any going back into the ring because it has
Speaker 2: been so long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for myself it's the head noise is
Speaker 4: quite quite strong. In the moment. I think I just
Speaker 4: feel like as an athlete, I lost my respect for myself,
Speaker 4: and the reason why I'm getting back in there is
Speaker 4: purely to try and gain that respect back. I think
Speaker 4: the only way out is through. You know, you're not
Speaker 4: gonna for me. I'm not gonna gain the respect just
Speaker 4: sitting on the couch or you know, doing something else.
Speaker 4: I think I really genuinely need to get back in
Speaker 4: the ring, just for myself, just so I can get
Speaker 4: to the position that I felt. I guess prior to
Speaker 4: the Tokyo Olympics, I felt like I was the best
Speaker 4: athlete I possibly could be, and then you know, I
Speaker 4: showed up really well at the Tokyo Olympics. So I
Speaker 4: feel like I really want to get back to that position.
Speaker 4: I have no real expectation for myself over the next
Speaker 4: six to twelve months. It's just all about getting back
Speaker 4: to the best athlete I possibly can be and then
Speaker 4: looking to go overseas. But at the moment, I just
Speaker 4: think because it's been so long out of the ring,
Speaker 4: like there is so much nervous energy. But also I
Speaker 4: love this. I live for this, I truly. I think
Speaker 4: it's a place that I feel most alive and most
Speaker 4: myself and I love that. You know, over the next
Speaker 4: six days I'm going to be faced with so many
Speaker 4: mental challenges and I think, as I said, the only
Speaker 4: way out is through. You can just got to confront
Speaker 4: some head on. And I absolutely love that.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I need some of that resilience.
Speaker 2: I need you printed like on a little card for
Speaker 2: me to read every morning and just in.
Speaker 1: My ear every morning.
Speaker 3: I think my mentality is the only way out is
Speaker 3: stage lesson. I ain't gone through. I'm doing everything I can,
Speaker 3: which is probably why I'm not a boxer, to be fair.
Speaker 3: But Harry, I'm so glad that you brought up Tokyo
Speaker 3: because that's when I think, and it must have felt
Speaker 3: like a wave for you. Australia were all stuck in
Speaker 3: their houses watching the Olympics and here was this guy
Speaker 3: wearing now a Polish being himself and everyone literally just
Speaker 3: fell in love with this character. And you were so
Speaker 3: real and so unfiltered with who you were. Has it
Speaker 3: surprised you how much Australia has just embraced you for you,
Speaker 3: because I'm sure there were times where you thought, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know if people are ready for the fact
Speaker 3: that I am a bit different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's always surprising. I think
Speaker 4: that's the beauty of social media now, right. I think
Speaker 4: individuals have the freedom now and the power now to
Speaker 4: be themselves and realizing the world's a big place. And
Speaker 4: I think before social media, all that we had was
Speaker 4: our community. And I think you are, you know, not pigeonhole,
Speaker 4: but you do have certain boundaries if your community doesn't
Speaker 4: explore certain things and stuff like that. And I think
Speaker 4: the beauty of social media is I think there's space
Speaker 4: for everyone, you know. I think you can you can
Speaker 4: showcase stuff to the world about yourself and you will
Speaker 4: find like minded people out there, which is quite exciting
Speaker 4: and it's been really amazing. I think twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I fully understood how to sort
Speaker 4: of deal with like like fame or anything like that.
Speaker 4: And I think it took me a couple of years
Speaker 4: to fully understand how to deal with it, and I
Speaker 4: think I did get quite distracted little bit, and I
Speaker 4: think that's probably why maybe Paris didn't turn out how
Speaker 4: I planned it would. But it's nice to sort of
Speaker 4: realize that. I think I needed to experience that, as
Speaker 4: you know, I was in my mid twenties, and I
Speaker 4: think that's where you probably learned the most about yourself.
Speaker 4: So I'm really happy. I just feel like I found
Speaker 4: my community. I've found my people who accept me, and
Speaker 4: it's been pretty pretty amazing, especially obviously Postparis, like not
Speaker 4: getting the result that I wanted, but then feeling like
Speaker 4: I got a massive hug from Australia, Like I felt
Speaker 4: so body grateful to be Australia, which is such a
Speaker 4: wild thing.
Speaker 2: How would you describe yourself, Harry? I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: we think that we know you because you are so open,
Speaker 2: But how if you were doing your own intro right now?
Speaker 2: You are the author of your own Wikipedia page, like
Speaker 2: who is Harry Garside?
Speaker 4: I'm a deeply curious person who thinks about way too much,
Speaker 4: way too often. I'm passionate about many things. I find
Speaker 4: joy in so many little things. I cared deeply about
Speaker 4: the people in my circle, the people in my circle.
Speaker 4: They were fulm far between. I feel like I have
Speaker 4: a big heart. Yeah, I think that summarizes me. I
Speaker 4: saw this video and it said, try and describe yourself
Speaker 4: without using your hobbies, what you do. We have the
Speaker 4: same describe rather than you know, me just going I'm
Speaker 4: a boxer or I'm done that, I'm just someone who
Speaker 4: I don't know. I I think about a lot, and
Speaker 4: I care deeply, and i've I don't believe in star signs.
Speaker 4: Well maybe I do because I'm saying this, but I'm
Speaker 4: a cancer, so we do.
Speaker 3: Apparently I'm actually just went all.
Speaker 6: But it is.
Speaker 3: And it's such a healthy thing to be able to
Speaker 3: touch who you are from what you do, particularly if
Speaker 3: what you do is so outcomes based.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, I think it's really nice. So I guess
Speaker 4: identify as a boxer and that's probably something that I
Speaker 4: didn't realize at the age of nine when I started.
Speaker 4: But I think I was searching for, like you think
Speaker 4: about a boxer and the certain attributes that you think
Speaker 4: about when you think about boxing. I wanted that. I
Speaker 4: wanted that identity. I wanted to be able to see
Speaker 4: me as a.
Speaker 3: Boxer when you say those attributes are you're thinking like discipline?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that the attributes you were leaning into.
Speaker 4: Just courageous, you know, courageous, strong, fearless. I feel like
Speaker 4: I before I started boxing, I just feel like I
Speaker 4: compare myself naturally to my brothers, and they were really
Speaker 4: strong individuals, or they looked strong, you know. I saw
Speaker 4: them do courageous things. I saw them fight. I saw
Speaker 4: them do these things that I was so scared to do.
Speaker 4: And I think I think I initially started boxing because
Speaker 4: what do you see men do or movies? You see
Speaker 4: men fight, and you see men, you know, be fearless
Speaker 4: and save the world. And I just didn't feel like
Speaker 4: I had that inside of me. And the beautiful thing
Speaker 4: is boxing taught me that I do. You know, I
Speaker 4: do have that strong, courageous person inside of me. And
Speaker 4: it's really nice to sort of realize that. I guess
Speaker 4: in my.
Speaker 2: Twenties question without notice, Harry, just because I think it
Speaker 2: is so pertinent and a lot of our listeners will agree.
Speaker 2: The conversation around the world, but in this country right
Speaker 2: now around men and masculinity seems really really loud. For you,
Speaker 2: what does it mean to be a positive role model?
Speaker 2: Because I would say you're one of the few in
Speaker 2: all honesty for young boys growing up in particular, what
Speaker 2: do you think it takes to be one? And what
Speaker 2: do people need to do? And by people, I am
Speaker 2: specifically talking about men.
Speaker 4: I think masculinity comes in many forms, and I think
Speaker 4: masculinity has range, and I think masculinity, if at times,
Speaker 4: needs to be the one who is the stoic, strong
Speaker 4: capable person. I've always not always, only in the last
Speaker 4: few years have I thought of this concept. So I've
Speaker 4: thought about masculinity. And when I say masculinity, I don't
Speaker 4: mean men, just more men hold masculine traits, but I
Speaker 4: know many women who hold extremely masculine traits, my mum
Speaker 4: being one of them. And I think the way I
Speaker 4: look at masculinity is I think masculinity is the stabilizing
Speaker 4: trunk in a tree. You know, we don't so often
Speaker 4: look at the trunk, and it's beautiful in its own way,
Speaker 4: but it does a lot of the work. It's sort
Speaker 4: of the wind will never knock it over. It collects
Speaker 4: a lot of the resources underneath the surface access service
Speaker 4: to give the flower, which I call the feminine energy,
Speaker 4: the flow, the beauty, the thing that we often look
Speaker 4: at because it's moving in the wind, and I think
Speaker 4: that's the way I look at masculinity. But I do
Speaker 4: think that you know, sometimes the tree trunk, you know,
Speaker 4: it cries, it bleeds, it goes through its own stages
Speaker 4: where it loses its bark, and I think that is
Speaker 4: part of it goes through winter, it goes through seasons,
Speaker 4: and I think it's just understanding that I think being
Speaker 4: a man, I think it comes in stages, it comes
Speaker 4: in time, and I think it's always about being curious
Speaker 4: about yourself and trying to be a bit more introspective
Speaker 4: and asking yourself what you need more often than trying
Speaker 4: to lead from that rather than just like pushing it
Speaker 4: and suppressing it, which I do think a lot of
Speaker 4: men and sometimes myself I do.
Speaker 3: I just checked the camera to see if you're reading
Speaker 3: off a book that was so poetic. I know now
Speaker 3: you speak honestly. It's where did you learn who in
Speaker 3: your life or where did you learn to speak like that? Harry,
Speaker 3: because not everyone.
Speaker 4: Can Probably something, Georgie, your partner will no wrong. The
Speaker 4: re Foundation, I was so grateful. The re Foundation is
Speaker 4: the youth organization who does a lot of community work
Speaker 4: goes out to schools. They actually come out to my
Speaker 4: school when I was sixteen years old, and I think
Speaker 4: even before that, I was always someone who was super curious.
Speaker 4: I think naturally every young person is. But I think
Speaker 4: they gave me a chance to sort of delve into
Speaker 4: myself and show what I found and not feel judge
Speaker 4: for what I found, which I think is really special
Speaker 4: for young people to feel. And I was with them
Speaker 4: for as a participant at the start, and then I'll
Speaker 4: become a crew member myself. And I just think I
Speaker 4: got like five years of my life where I was
Speaker 4: able to one delve into myself but then also sort
Speaker 4: of ask young people about their lives and how their
Speaker 4: experience shapes them and stuff like that, which I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think. I think imagine a school system where we
Speaker 4: focus more on emotional intelligence rather than achievement based stuff.
Speaker 4: I would love to see that. And I just think
Speaker 4: the system we have right now is just very much
Speaker 4: achievement base. You know, you get that a you feel good,
Speaker 4: your parents will support you, the teachers will celebrate you more.
Speaker 4: But I would love to see a school system if
Speaker 4: it's shaped more around like turning into a good human
Speaker 4: or but unfortunately that's just not how the system is.
Speaker 2: Look the Reach Foundation, you are so right, Harry does
Speaker 2: such incredible work and one asset you are as a
Speaker 2: product of them, but now also preaching their word. But
Speaker 2: I want to know you. Obviously I have done so
Speaker 2: much work on yourself. We can see that you live
Speaker 2: it every single day. When are you one of the
Speaker 2: little twiggy branches though on the tree, right, who's just
Speaker 2: like struggling and it's just getting absolutely pummeled in the
Speaker 2: wind and you're like, no, like what makes you frazzled?
Speaker 4: I think there's always parts in our personality that naturally
Speaker 4: they're at different stages of evolution, right. I think there's
Speaker 4: parts of my personality that still feel like a bit
Speaker 4: of a child, and I don't have full control over
Speaker 4: or enough awareness on or you know, I haven't had
Speaker 4: enough exposure therapy. So then when I get like the
Speaker 4: slightest sense that someone's going to snap that branch, you know,
Speaker 4: like I feel really insecure. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 4: an example. I think one of my biggest life stories
Speaker 4: is I felt from a young age people question my manhood.
Speaker 4: Probably the reason why I started boxing, and I think
Speaker 4: that someone if someone was to question my manhood or
Speaker 4: my capabilities, there is something inside of me that falls
Speaker 4: too familiar foe, and I want to try and prove
Speaker 4: that I'm a man. I want to try. And I
Speaker 4: think that's just like opening up a pretty deep wound
Speaker 4: for myself that I felt quite insecure about my masculinity.
Speaker 4: And if someone says that I couldn't, let's say, run
Speaker 4: a marathon right now, I'd probably just go run a marathon.
Speaker 2: Just You'd be fine, You'd be absolutely fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably the one area though, where I'm like,
Speaker 4: if someone close to me, especially it was just some
Speaker 4: random blog, I probably wouldn't care. But if it was
Speaker 4: someone close to me, like let's say, like my dad,
Speaker 4: was to question something inside of myself, there would be
Speaker 4: something inside of me that wants to try and prove
Speaker 4: that I am capable.
Speaker 3: Oh, you've got two type a's here that are not
Speaker 3: nodding along one hundred percent being like me, let me
Speaker 3: prove that I can do things. But what I find
Speaker 3: so incredible about you, Harry, is that you speak really
Speaker 3: openly about having a critical internal monologue. Sometimes. Yes, we
Speaker 3: both do as well. I do that by trying to
Speaker 3: protect myself, and sometimes when opportunities come up are a
Speaker 3: bit scary, I just say no. I'm like, oh, there's
Speaker 3: definitely chances there where I could look you know, silly,
Speaker 3: or it's not in my usual realm, so I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do it. You seem to go, I'll have
Speaker 3: a crack. I'm a celebrity. Sure, get me in there.
Speaker 3: Dancing with the stars. Yeah, boxing's dancing, like get up?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you have those voices going, oh, this is making
Speaker 3: me nervous, so I have to do it. Is that
Speaker 3: the way that you approach life? Because I admire it
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's so interesting because I think we
Speaker 4: naturally do compare our lives what other people are doing. Right,
Speaker 4: But I face that stuff like daily, you know, even
Speaker 4: like you know, you'll be running and I've paid attention
Speaker 4: to like I call it my ego. But I'll be running.
Speaker 4: Let's say, and I'm doing a five k run, and
Speaker 4: you know, I run the first two k's really well,
Speaker 4: and then about the two and a half k mark,
Speaker 4: there's something inside of me going, like, you know, I
Speaker 4: just settled down, You've got training later. It's trying to
Speaker 4: look for a way out so I feel like we're
Speaker 4: always facing voices inside of ourself, and don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: sometimes I fall to them, and sometimes I do listen
Speaker 4: to the voice, and sometimes I don't do the hard thing.
Speaker 4: Like I'm human and I'm deeply flawed, but I do think.
Speaker 3: Sure he's out on the human thing.
Speaker 4: Think about it, think about this Georgian and I think
Speaker 4: when you do push through that thing and you do
Speaker 4: that hard session, or you follow that diet, or you
Speaker 4: get to bed on time, like you always feel better
Speaker 4: when you do the hard thing first.
Speaker 2: It is true, but you are talking to two people, Harry,
Speaker 2: who went to brunch instead of doing the city to surf.
Speaker 1: So let's just like a layers. You know, everything is relative.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't tell the apple that You're.
Speaker 1: So right, Harry.
Speaker 2: I do want to get back into the ring because
Speaker 2: you do have this incredible fight coming up. It's going
Speaker 2: to be big for you in more ways than one.
Speaker 2: We understand, what do we know about your opponent Charlie Bell? Like,
Speaker 2: what can you tell us about him?
Speaker 4: I actually don't know much at all, which is I
Speaker 4: just always a Queenslander and Queenslanders are always quite tough,
Speaker 4: so he's a great record five and one. It's a
Speaker 4: massive opportunity for him, of course, like you know, he
Speaker 4: knocks off you know me like I think it sort
Speaker 4: of propels to forward, you know. But I've had a
Speaker 4: great preparation and I feel really excited just to get
Speaker 4: back in there. And as I said at the start,
Speaker 4: like there's got to be so many voices, you know,
Speaker 4: in my head over the next week that are nervous
Speaker 4: scared that we have thoughts as athletes of like I
Speaker 4: hope that I break my leg walking down these stairs
Speaker 4: so I don't have to fight. Yeah, I used to.
Speaker 1: Think if that was uni assignments.
Speaker 2: I was like, like, if I just got hit by
Speaker 2: this car on this car buck not a big hit,
Speaker 2: just a little grays I could.
Speaker 3: It's a really normal thing for athletes with that performance anxiety,
Speaker 3: where you know and you hear people like I think
Speaker 3: Dylan Buckley spoken about it essentially saying I would hope
Speaker 3: to do an injury during the week so that I
Speaker 3: didn't have to play on the weekend. And when you're
Speaker 3: starting to wish self harm in some level, that's a
Speaker 3: level of anxiety that you're living in and your shoulders
Speaker 3: are up and everything's up here the whole week. It's
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nuts.
Speaker 2: But if one of those voices harry in your head
Speaker 2: when you're in the ring, like it does you, does
Speaker 2: your brain go quiet?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely does inside the ring. I think I've
Speaker 4: always thought, as you can probably tell, I have one
Speaker 4: of the most active minds. Ever, it's quite annoying sometimes
Speaker 4: I want to escape it a lot of the time.
Speaker 4: But I think boxing is the purest form of meditation
Speaker 4: for myself, Like the whole world goes silent, which is
Speaker 4: so beautiful, and don't I don't like talking about this,
Speaker 4: but I think it is probably good for maybe young
Speaker 4: athletes to hear this, Like prior to the Tokyo Olympics,
Speaker 4: some of the voices that were going through my head
Speaker 4: my first major event, the Olympic Games. I've dreamed of
Speaker 4: this from a young age. And I drew someone who
Speaker 4: in my first fight, who was a massive puncher, really strong,
Speaker 4: a knockout artist. I could hit me with any shot
Speaker 4: and really flatten me. And I had all these voices
Speaker 4: of like, you know, the ultimate fear of being humiliated.
Speaker 4: My parents would be watching Australia's watching back over my
Speaker 4: first Olympic Games, I'm going to get knocked out, like
Speaker 4: to have all these internal voices and the ultimatums that
Speaker 4: I probably won't go into detail what the ultimatums were,
Speaker 4: but they were extreme, like the most extreme ultimatums you
Speaker 4: could possibly imagine if I wasn't to get the outcome
Speaker 4: that I wanted. And I think it's so wild to
Speaker 4: face that as an athlete and to still push through
Speaker 4: that and to still go like, and I think any profession,
Speaker 4: you know that talk that you've got to do at
Speaker 4: your work and you're so nervous, you put in so
Speaker 4: much work and you're scared it's not going to work
Speaker 4: or the PowerPoint it's going to screw up, like, and
Speaker 4: we still push through and face them. And if that's
Speaker 4: not evidence right there that we are so much more
Speaker 4: capable than what we that voice is telling us, I
Speaker 4: think it's yeah, I think it's just evidence. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just evidence that we are capable and we are
Speaker 4: strong and we are worthy of us.
Speaker 3: It's Georgie, oh quote, the great Georgie Tunney in the
Speaker 3: sport's just a mirror for life and that success, that battle,
Speaker 3: that needing that team around you the highs and lows
Speaker 3: is just a reflection of what people go through, but
Speaker 3: on a different scale. And that's why we love it
Speaker 3: so much. It's it's the personal stories and it's the
Speaker 3: journeys of people. That is that chumblewamba. I get knocked down, yeah,
Speaker 3: but again you're never going to keep me down.
Speaker 6: Like that's that's that's.
Speaker 3: The stuff that we love. It's that perseverance, right yeah.
Speaker 2: And also I mean this is just me being curious, Harry,
Speaker 2: have you ever been in a fight and your brain
Speaker 2: is actually, you've absolutely nailed a punch. Yes, I know, lingo,
Speaker 2: you've nailed it and you just go sorry, like you know, You're.
Speaker 3: Just like like are you ever flinching?
Speaker 1: They're like, ohez sorry sorry.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, listeners, If it isn't any clearer that
Speaker 3: Georgie is not a boxer, sorry, that'll be the moment.
Speaker 3: That's the tell. I think, probably not a fight.
Speaker 4: It's quite beautiful, like you're both in there. I've said this,
Speaker 4: I reckon boxing or combat is arguably besides sex and
Speaker 4: most intimate places you can go as a human, You're
Speaker 4: locked in a cage. There's just this raw, unwavering energy
Speaker 4: where you're trying to hurt each other, but there's no
Speaker 4: real malice in what you're doing. But I definitely do
Speaker 4: feel like that insparring when you're like hurting someone who
Speaker 4: might not be as experience as you and you hit
Speaker 4: them with a body shot and they're like, oh no,
Speaker 4: oh my god, are you okay? Like I probably shouldn't
Speaker 4: hit you that hard.
Speaker 3: You're like, I know this is only meant to be
Speaker 3: eighty percent. That one was one hundred. I'm very sorry
Speaker 3: that you're now on the floor. How are your ribbs?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: We we have a phrase that we say on this podcast, Harry,
Speaker 2: which is air ambulance, and that can be used at
Speaker 2: any stage, like I've kicked my toe.
Speaker 1: Get the air ambulance.
Speaker 3: You know, mild and were built for combat sports, mild inconvenience. Well, like,
Speaker 3: we'll get the chop up, We'll.
Speaker 1: Get the chopper. What makes what's like fun for you, Harry?
Speaker 2: Like away from the ring, away from exercise, away from
Speaker 2: like what.
Speaker 3: Or do you have enough? Because I hate this question
Speaker 3: because I don't have a hobby. Oh yeah, And I said,
Speaker 3: like because people, so what do you do for fun?
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, actually outside of work and keeping
Speaker 3: the kids alive. Actually don't have rooms for like the
Speaker 3: hobby thing, Like, do you have people asking about hobbies
Speaker 3: and you're life bro? You have no idea how much
Speaker 3: striking I have to do it?
Speaker 1: I sleep sometimes?
Speaker 3: Or do you actually have hobbies?
Speaker 4: No, I do. I think.
Speaker 3: You crochet.
Speaker 4: I don't have kids, so I feel really, I feel really.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the word is, but I just
Speaker 4: I can't wait for kids, but I don't have them yet,
Speaker 4: so I don't I don't understand what the stresses a
Speaker 4: like with kids. I can't imagine. I feel like your
Speaker 4: whole life will be flip upside down. But I feel
Speaker 4: like I separated myself from being only a boxer in
Speaker 4: the last three years. It's probably the reason why Paris
Speaker 4: maybe didn't go the way that I wanted to, you know,
Speaker 4: I like, prior to the Tokyo Olympics, I was just
Speaker 4: a boxer, and I did everything to be the best
Speaker 4: boxer I possibly could be. Between the two Olympics, I
Speaker 4: feel like I started to separate myself from only being
Speaker 4: a boxer, and I started to find heaps of interests
Speaker 4: like I love for lo I love listening to heaps
Speaker 4: of podcasts, I love writing. I spend so much time
Speaker 4: in nature. Just things that I don't know light me up,
Speaker 4: and I think mother nature for me is just like
Speaker 4: it's something if you feel average, just go outside and
Speaker 4: spend ten minutes in the sun and you'll instantly feel nice.
Speaker 3: What's what's your business science for that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 2: Though, Harry, what's something that you do that you're like,
Speaker 2: It's probably not the best for me, but I love it.
Speaker 4: I've probably got I probably wouldn't share. Probably I would
Speaker 4: say food, Like obviously.
Speaker 3: Boxing first post about meal.
Speaker 4: I love a good pizza you're ordering, Yeah, I've rom
Speaker 4: out of the sticks in Victoria, So like just those
Speaker 4: good like you know, pizzas that are just like ten
Speaker 4: topics high a lot with.
Speaker 1: Some sort of gross there's no wood fire here. It's
Speaker 1: you pick up a pizza and it falls down.
Speaker 2: It's like you can't gravity can't actually like you can't
Speaker 2: combat that.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 4: It's the deep dish and you're excited to wake up
Speaker 4: in the morning because you know there's one.
Speaker 3: You've got to ask, now, are you are you pineapple
Speaker 3: on or off? For sure?
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? You call yourself a personality.
Speaker 3: Gal, you've got to get the bar surname. Italians will
Speaker 3: come for me, So I've just got to I've got
Speaker 3: a hold on.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 3: Must be like when you're physically exhausted and you've also
Speaker 3: been watching everything that goes into your body, and then
Speaker 3: someone dishes up a pizza with the lot there's a
Speaker 3: that's a different level of joy. I'd levitate.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it, Harry, We've been so generous with your time.
Speaker 2: A couple more questions from us before we let you go,
Speaker 2: because we do know that you have a very intensive
Speaker 2: weak ahead of you.
Speaker 1: Last one from me, what are we thinking about la.
Speaker 4: I think at the moment, no, I think, and I've
Speaker 4: got to unpack this a little bit more of myself,
Speaker 4: but I think there is like, obviously, actually I'm sitting
Speaker 4: here as a twenty seven year old man looking at
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know how old the young boy is,
Speaker 4: but let's say a seven year old young boy who's
Speaker 4: just extremely embarrassed that he put himself out there. And
Speaker 4: I think I'm holding that young boy right now, and
Speaker 4: I think he's quite you know, embarrassed, and he has
Speaker 4: every right to feel like that he put himself out
Speaker 4: there and things he can go how he wanted to.
Speaker 4: But also as well, there is another side. I'm sitting
Speaker 4: here as a logical twenty seven year old man knowing
Speaker 4: what it takes to be an Olympic gold medalist and
Speaker 4: also knowing that I've never once chased money in my
Speaker 4: life and we don't look after athletes in Australia Olympic athletes.
Speaker 4: Should I say I finished the Tokyo Olympics with a
Speaker 4: bronze medal and I owe people money? You know, you
Speaker 4: can never put a price in your dream. But also
Speaker 4: as well, I am conscious I want to be a
Speaker 4: dad one day and I want to make sure that
Speaker 4: they have a roof over their heads and have opportunities.
Speaker 4: And I think if I was to try for LA,
Speaker 4: that puts me back to thirty one before I can
Speaker 4: have an opportunity where I can start making money and
Speaker 4: focusing on a career. And I think I've got to
Speaker 4: also think about what I want to be when I'm
Speaker 4: forty five, and when an Olympic gold medal is so
Speaker 4: effing important for myself, but having a family is way
Speaker 4: more important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have an Olympic medal, no gold.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey squinch, Hey, if you squinch, my friend
Speaker 3: in the right line.
Speaker 1: And we will be there to support you no matter what, Harry.
Speaker 2: But just so you know, I'm not sure if you
Speaker 2: saw it, but when you said no to La your
Speaker 2: first thing, I want there to be a zoom in
Speaker 2: on Jelmy. It was like that episode of The Simpsons
Speaker 2: when Ralph Wiggams's heart breaks and it's like you can
Speaker 2: see his heart breaking, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Jelley was like no.
Speaker 3: All I heard was no right now? Yeah, So I went,
Speaker 3: you're telling me there's a chance, yeah, because I just
Speaker 3: couldn't the Olympics. And I know that obviously it means
Speaker 3: so much to you, but for me, it just is
Speaker 3: this pinnacle of opportunity and it would be so exciting
Speaker 3: to see you go again. But I also want to
Speaker 3: remind you, George and I have a strong theory that
Speaker 3: you're not an adult to your thirty oh y, like
Speaker 3: you're still growing and learning about who you are and
Speaker 3: what you're doing. But it's devastating for me to hear
Speaker 3: someone who again is an Olympic medallist talk about the
Speaker 3: fact that financial realities mean that pursuing what you do
Speaker 3: is something that you're weighing up for I guess security
Speaker 3: reasons and for the future of your family. Because as Australians,
Speaker 3: Olympics roll around every four years or Tokyo five years,
Speaker 3: and we think, right, oh, where are the medals? Who's winning?
Speaker 3: And we don't really look at the conditions that we're
Speaker 3: putting these athletes under for the four years to have
Speaker 3: that moment when really it shines well in our country.
Speaker 3: But what is our country doing to take care of
Speaker 3: these athletes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was I think there was the Daily Olds.
Speaker 4: Well the Daily Olds definitely posted it, but I think
Speaker 4: I can't remember the exact statistic, but there was a
Speaker 4: massive portion of elite athletes in Australia that are living
Speaker 4: under the Yeah, you know, it's that's a crazy reality
Speaker 4: to to think about. And I you know, I don't
Speaker 4: I focus so hard in my life on my sport.
Speaker 4: I don't have a degree, I don't have a qualification.
Speaker 3: I could have fooled us all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, honestly, I think.
Speaker 3: Communications degrees and I can tell you, yeah, you've got
Speaker 3: one up on us.
Speaker 4: But I've got to make I've got to also be
Speaker 4: conscious of like as I said, I've never chased money
Speaker 4: in my life, and I don't I don't ever want
Speaker 4: money to be something that I desire. But I do
Speaker 4: know that if I can win a world title in
Speaker 4: that process as well, I'll also make money that is
Speaker 4: the reality of professional boxing, and then retire with my
Speaker 4: respect and then focus on the family.
Speaker 3: Done.
Speaker 1: It's very achievable, sir, it's so achieved for you.
Speaker 3: For you. Yeah, anything I were speaking to like the
Speaker 3: next Prime Minister of the country, I know, like I mean, honestly, honestly,
Speaker 3: we just couldn't love you more and we're so excited
Speaker 3: to watch this far. But Harry, if you hear me,
Speaker 3: I hope that you're not calling us on your phone
Speaker 3: so that this actually works. But if you could whip
Speaker 3: out your Instagram and just read for me the caption
Speaker 3: that you posted on your last post, because for me,
Speaker 3: it was so inspiring and I think it captures what
Speaker 3: boxing means to you, but also what boxing can mean
Speaker 3: to kids. It's really incredible. If you don't mind.
Speaker 4: Okay, first starters, I hate reading, but I'm going to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 3: You know what, give us your best day of Attenbrestole.
Speaker 4: You can do it, Harry, Okay. Boxing teaches something no
Speaker 4: school ever will, How to get hit in the face
Speaker 4: and stay calm, how to fail in front of a
Speaker 4: crowd and keep going, how to stand back up when
Speaker 4: every part of your body wants to quit. It teaches patience, discipline,
Speaker 4: and respect, and above all, it teaches resilience in the ring.
Speaker 4: There's no hiding, no one to blame, no excuses. Is
Speaker 4: the truth and the consequences of every choice. That kind
Speaker 4: of honesty is rare. That's why boxing is more than
Speaker 4: a sport. It's a classroom and every round is a lesson.
Speaker 4: Some spend their lives avoiding pain. Boxes learn how to
Speaker 4: walk through it and come out stronger.
Speaker 3: I live for this, yes, sir, Harry Garside, Harry Garside,
Speaker 3: the best sport say.
Speaker 4: I would love to claim that's mine.
Speaker 3: It's not mine who wrote that.
Speaker 4: I've got no idea.
Speaker 3: This is when you say chat GPT is a wonderful thing. No,
Speaker 3: that's what you just do.
Speaker 1: One of those quotes. It's like, oh it was Monroe,
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I'm sure no one's Buddha Gandhi.
Speaker 4: I'm sure out myself right now. I have definitely I
Speaker 4: have definitely before on a photo created quote myself and
Speaker 4: maybe we're not and said, I'm known because I don't
Speaker 4: want to seem like an arrogant.
Speaker 3: Harry, You've got I love that, but I don't want
Speaker 3: people to know that.
Speaker 1: I love that I'm seeing opportunities here. What I'm seeing
Speaker 1: is ambulance.
Speaker 3: Well, Harry Garside, if that is your real name, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for coming on this podcast as you know,
Speaker 3: two of your most devoted fans for what you do
Speaker 3: in the ring, but also just who you are as
Speaker 3: a person. Thank you so much for your time and
Speaker 3: we'll be watching go get them.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, guys, appreciate you both.
Speaker 1: I mean, clear your schedules and just listen to that
Speaker 1: whole chat again, just rewind it what a person.
Speaker 3: At different points, I forgot that we were doing the podcast. Yes,
Speaker 3: like I thought I was listening to a podcast of
Speaker 3: one of the more profound speakers, honestly and just and
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, it's amazing. Then I'm like, wait
Speaker 3: my turn, yeah, and do we hang on? Gotta jump in. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He is just his perspective and outlook and everything else
Speaker 3: and just how self aware he is is incredible.
Speaker 2: It's genuine as well, which is the thing is because
Speaker 2: he speaks so passionately, but it is all genuine like.
Speaker 2: That is who Harry Garside is. He is such that
Speaker 2: deep thinker and to his own detriment sometimes he would
Speaker 2: also admit because you just can't cannot escape the voice
Speaker 2: in your head. We wish him all the best in
Speaker 2: the next fight. Charlie Bell, Queens and Cole Miner. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you're lovely, but our allegiance.
Speaker 4: Is with Harry.
Speaker 3: Try to say anything more profound than the last couple
Speaker 3: of minutes. Charlie, if that is your real.
Speaker 2: Name, Yeah, so huge, Thank you, huge, thank you to
Speaker 2: Harry Garsife for coming on the pod and everyone listening.
Speaker 1: Let us know, let us know your feedbacks, your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Who you'd like to see on the podrag tag who
Speaker 3: you want?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're trying to do a few more interviews
Speaker 2: this season. You've probably noticed and hopefully you're enjoying them,
Speaker 2: because you know, Jemy and I we can talk underwater
Speaker 2: to ourselves, but out in a third person. I mean,
Speaker 2: we need fourteen years.
Speaker 3: And ideally the next one's not called Harry.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so hg as well, we had Harry Grant,
Speaker 2: Harry Garside, who's next to Honney Granger?
Speaker 3: Oh god, Emma Watson obviously and obviously that's reach out,
Speaker 3: is okay? I feel like we need to fun fact
Speaker 3: because you and I are deviating hard go on?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, fun fact, which is on brand on brand
Speaker 2: on theme. We love a theme, so we may. You
Speaker 2: may have realized that there was a federal election most recently,
Speaker 2: Yeah did you did you see that?
Speaker 3: No? I was at Magic Crab and believe me, Queenslanders
Speaker 3: did not care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right. Quite a result. Quite a result though.
Speaker 2: The Labor Party Anthony Albaneze now PM again, which means
Speaker 2: that the Deputy PM will likely be Richard Miles. Now
Speaker 2: Richard Miles, Big big day, Big day for the Miles family,
Speaker 2: because yes, they were very interested in how.
Speaker 1: Richard was going to go. He's a huge Cats fan.
Speaker 1: That's just a side note.
Speaker 2: But their allegiances were divided in what they should be
Speaker 2: watching on federal election night. Would they be watching the
Speaker 2: coverage to see how he went in his electorate or
Speaker 2: were they going to be tuning in to see his
Speaker 2: son Sam fight in the mixed martial arts competition and
Speaker 2: defeat a man named Nate Law with a third round knockout.
Speaker 1: Which one were they going to choose? Did you know that?
Speaker 3: Wait, so mum's got to choose his husband keeping his
Speaker 3: job or his son keeping his teeth.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: So nice that you're flicking, You're flicking between the two shows.
Speaker 2: So my fun fact is that the Deputy Prime Minister
Speaker 2: of this country's son is a brutal MMA fighter, and
Speaker 2: a successful one at that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, because I'm like the thought of having
Speaker 3: a kid that gets into MMA be answers. No, we're
Speaker 3: worried about like CTE in like general contact, not like
Speaker 3: this guy's got you in a position that will break
Speaker 3: your arm unless you tap out.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, And as you know, I'm saying, this
Speaker 2: is a trained political journal Richard Miles, one of them
Speaker 2: more put together politicians going around this country. Now never
Speaker 2: a hair out of place, the ties always straight, the
Speaker 2: scarf perfectly.
Speaker 1: It's google Sam Miles and just have a look at
Speaker 1: his face. After this fight, You're like, okay, now, thank you.
Speaker 2: Anyway, this has been another episode of two Good Sports.
Speaker 2: We hope that you have enjoyed it, and until next
Speaker 3: Week, be Harry Garside