WEBVTT - Harry Garside Is Redefining Masculinity 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.040 Here at two Good Sports. 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:04.240 We would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.240 land on which we record this podcast. The wereunerie people. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.360 This land was never seated, always was always will be 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.800 Ohio and welcome to two Good Sports Sports. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.560 And he's told differently, I'm Georgie. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.760 Tunney, Georgie alluding to a very secret mission she had 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.960 in Japan during the week. Now, because as you do, George, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.880 it is a pleasure to be here. What a week 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.640 again in sport, it just feels like he keeps getting 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:30.600 bigger and bigger and. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:31.760 I can't keep up, I know. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.600 And on that I want to begin with some rather 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.879 big news. That's my good sport of the week, and 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.760 tell me I'm giving it to your hometown. The WA 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.680 Premier has confirmed that Earth is getting a rugby league 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.920 team from twenty twenty seven, allegedly the Bears. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.160 They're back, they literally said in the announcement twenty seven 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.040 or twenty eight. But it's happening. It's happening, and so 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.400 the North Sydney Bears for those that haven't fallen nurl me, 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.000 we're around like twenty five years ago that were part 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.800 of the league and then they've essentially been relegated to 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.840 use a very football term, and there is a dormant 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.199 body of fans yes, that are waiting to be back 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.000 in love with this team and support them. So in 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.400 one part it's really clever because you have a pre 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.880 existing fan base. In the other part, have you looked 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:28.240 at flights from Sydney to Perth recently? I'm sorry Bears fans, 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.600 but if you're planning to see them at the new stadium, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.440 good luck to here. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.600 Well, this is what I want your opinion on, because 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.920 you're very, very well placed. Do you think that rugby 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:43.679 league will work in Perth? There's two sides to this, 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.240 what's your signe ah? Two sides to my side to 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.960 this is that I grew up in Perth. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:55.400 Obviously as an avid sport lover watcher, very integrated in sport. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.840 I thought it was really weird when I watched breakfast 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.680 television they spoke about these mythical dragons or some bunnies 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.600 like I just I genuinely didn't understand what I was 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.640 watching or why it was relevant, because if it's rugby, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.359 it should be about the Wallabies. Yes, And that's as 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.320 someone who was very engaged in the sporting landscape. And 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.840 then I moved to like to Sydney for an internship 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.520 with Fox Sports and they asked me about rugby league 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.720 and I said, I love the Wallabies direct quote, so 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.360 you can understand why I wasn't allowed on it for 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.800 a very long time. So I think it's hard to 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.040 there's some knowledge gaps there is. It's hard to overstate 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.079 how little people care about rugby league as a general rule. Yes, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.880 state of origin packs out, okay. But this is the 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.760 second part, is that we get fourteen I become West 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.520 Astralian very quickly. Fourteen to fifteen thousand at the Wildcats 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.560 every week. Yes, if you give West Australians a winner 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.640 and a loser, we will rock up in numbers because 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.680 sport is our thing. So I genuinely believe that it 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.000 will be embraced. Will people wear guernsies but have absolute 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.639 you no idea what they're talking about? Sure, but that's okay, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:03.320 that's okay. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.480 I think that if it can just be a spectacle 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.360 for those initial years until the Perthians what do you 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:09.280 call personalities? 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.960 What is sand I think we're sand gropers. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.639 Until the sand gropers understand those who reside in the 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.480 big state the incredible game that is rugby League, and 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.760 luckily is Harry Grant, our guest said last. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.840 Week very easim very easy to follow. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.880 So I think it's also an excellent time for them 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.200 to be launching a team because the AFL teams aren't 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:34.480 doing very well, not just success wise wise, not supporter 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.320 base wise. I know that you know the Doctors, the Eagles, you, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.040 I get it, I get it. Please please sand Gropers 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.960 don't come for me. I understand that you love those teams, 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.280 but because you're not going to really be winning a 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.760 flag realistically for what ten years, either of those teams, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.160 let's infiltrate good work. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.160 Good work, Peter Landing, good work, the story. A lot 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.000 of people had Fremantle in their top four this year. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.120 They're just not executing where they should be and West 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.600 Coast are rebuilding, but West Coaster never really down for 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.400 that long. They're a very successful club for a long time. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.640 I'm interested to see the real estate that NRL could 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:12.640 possibly get in me too, like I just want to 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.280 see the sort of coverage that they could potentially get. Yah, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.159 but it puts the N in NRL. I'm hearing those 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.920 you can't you can't claim to be a national competition 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.400 without half the country. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.920 And I'm hearing number one ticket holder abs gelmy, come on, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.440 come on, the jersey's nice if they stick to the 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:30.800 old jersey, it's nice jersey. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.200 Yeah, because I saw a lot of them. I was 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.080 actually in Magic Ground over the weekend and there are 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.480 a lot of people wearing the jerseys. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:36.599 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:37.919 It's like you know, for Red and Black. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.760 They're always like rugby league fans were chaotic, because no 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:46.680 matter what sporting game match code across the world, there 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.400 will always be at least one rabbit Oz jersey there. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:50.440 Why true. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.560 It could be at Wimbledon and there's a rabbit Os 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.120 fan in the top corner and it's like, sorry, what 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:56.520 why how. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.480 Did you get did you? How did you get here? 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.440 You've taken and you've made that choice to take up 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:02.640 valuable luggage shy. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.280 I blame Russell Crowe because truly, why else would they 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:08.440 have a global presence? 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:10.040 Right? 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.840 Okay, that's my good sport, good sport of the week. 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.120 That it's a massive It's a massive story, isn't it. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.320 I've got a very quick bad sport. And then I'm 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:17.719 just going to say it and move on. I've got 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.559 a good sport. Okay, stop giving the finger. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:21.240 I'm with you. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:25.800 It's so juvenile, it's so stupid, it's unnecessary, and young 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.360 kids watch you. And I was listening during the week 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.479 and they had a woman call up a radio station. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.560 She said, I watched my son out the back wholesomely 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.960 kicking goals. We've set up some fake goals out the back. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.359 He celebrated them. Then he turned around to our water 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.880 cooler and gave it the double bird. No, and I've 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:47.120 just thought, first, like, we've got kids trying to pretend 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:52.000 to be Bailey Smith giving inadimate objects the finger. And 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.920 I'm sorry if you think, well, we're allowed to express ourselves. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.880 This is what happens. And so then as parents and 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.320 as you go, how am I meant to explain to 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.960 this kid that this isn't cool when they do it 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.479 again and again, And no one's saying that crowds are 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.400 well behaved and that the vitriol that keeps getting worse 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.960 and worse that's coming at these players is okay. But 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.080 I do think it is easier for the AFL or 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.760 the league to police the players in their response. And 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.839 that's All you have is control to how you respond 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.080 to this thing, because the crowd are only going to 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.159 get more raucous yes to get this response if they 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.320 think they're going to get it. George, Yes, hate it, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:33.080 aren't it. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.560 This is such a great call for you from This 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.160 is such a great call from you. I am one 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.120 thousand percent with you because you know what you might 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.440 be okay with seeing Bailey Smith do it on the 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.840 field and you think, oh that's great and try It's not. 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.320 The only one. Harley Reid made it his propile picture. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.640 Yes, and I'm a fair footy fan. We understand that. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.440 So don't get and clear, don't get me wrong. I 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.120 love you know some personality. We always ask for it, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.640 but there's a very big difference and it's very confronting 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.200 when you put that picture up against a three year 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:02.240 old doing the same thing. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.080 Yeah, just no, no, no, no, I'm with you. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.520 West Australians all stood up and gave the finger in 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.920 support of Harley Reid giving the thing like I just think. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.880 But imagine when Harley Reid eventually comes back to a 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.360 Victorian club, it's going to happen. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.240 Do come for me? Then the entire MC like whenever 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.000 he goes back. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.080 To people given the finger like it's it's just it's. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.000 It's yeah, I don't like it. I don't. I do 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.480 not like it. I do not like it. We're not 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:25.280 the fun police. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.320 No, but hey, this is a sort of m if. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.320 I well, I'm sorry. If I walked into work every 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.280 week and when I was a little bit annoyed gave 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.440 the double bird in a meeting on the way, I 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.800 just gave, there would be I would be given a 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:40.520 few warnings. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.200 Yeah, just so you know, dear listener, I just did 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:43.800 the double bird to jell me. Then I was like, yeah, 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.720 I'm like my hands, it doesn't feel right. No, apologize. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:50.440 I look like Bill and Ney with the arthrod. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:51.720 Like it was bad. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:52.680 It was so bad. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.440 Anyway, I'm not that human, So stop it. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.200 I mean, I'll call hr and we'll have discussion, a discussion. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.240 I can't even speak about that afterwards because that was 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.400 very confun you came at me. No, but I again, 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:03.840 that was a bad sport. Let's not focus on the 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.880 next the good sport. Oh yeah, is there a better 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:11.440 sport in Australian sport than Neil Danaher? Oh what a 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.760 human Australian of the Year and what he has done 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.000 through his M and D diagnosis to then have fight 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.920 M and D and the Big Freeze and just his 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.080 courage in putting his story out there and his family 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.960 are just the most phenomenal people. But I mentioned this 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.600 because the Big Freeze eleven beanies are out. I'm using 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.200 a prop which is useless, useless when it comes to 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.400 a podcast, but they are out that you can buy them. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.719 I think it's Coals and where else, Bunnings and different. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.480 They pop up, honestly everywhere and I love this time 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.840 of year, especially in Melbourne, but hopefully around the country. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:46.560 They're everywhere. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.520 You just see everyone walking around in them and it 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.080 just does spread the awareness so much. And the danaher family, yes, Neil, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:58.960 but the entire family has just done incredible things. 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:02.040 For this course. Since twenty fourteen, one hundred and fifteen 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.440 million dollars for M and D research, including fifteen clinical 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.600 trials and thirty four drug development projects. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.800 Australian of the Year for a reason. What a human 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.679 with that segue potentially a future Australian of the Year. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:15.280 I'm calling it. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.920 Yeah, I'm calling at the very least the second best 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.840 sport in the country. If we're gonna if we're gonna 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.360 have to have kneel Danaher on top. He arguably is 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.800 one of the most liked athletes, I would say in 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:26.280 the country. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.280 I agree, I agree, And we have this person coming 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.280 up for you, dear listeners, in a matter of moment. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:32.160 You are welcome. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.000 You are welcome. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.080 But before we get there, we just wanted to remind 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.000 you the last time you may have heard from him, 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.520 it was from this devastating post fire interview from the 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:42.479 paras Olympics. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.920 I've been though all the same, teach. I'm believe you 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:45.960 must make you so proud. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.160 It's crazy, made two decades dedicated to one drave and 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:52.520 it's over, just like that. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.559 May you're feeling after this morning. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:58.240 I feel pretty. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.920 Numb right now, but I'm sure your next month or 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.560 two will be quite challenging, quite hard. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.600 I feel I feel from my mind gets the better 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:12.040 of him. I feel like I've let myself down. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.680 And I know if you've. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.960 Ever with down made, Gods, what do you do not 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:19.800 at all, Harry, have let yourself down made. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.679 There are thousands of spectators here, and so many of 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:23.400 them Australian. 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:24.880 What does it mean to have them in the crowd. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:26.080 It's massive. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.600 Australia is such a sporting nation and I'm so sorry. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.120 Honestly, it's so hard to listen to. It's really hard 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.360 to watch. And it was the moment, I think where 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.800 all of Australia went, Can we just give this bloke 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.640 a hug? He had such high expectations for himself heading 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.400 into the Games, and understandably so. He was already an 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.600 Olympic medalist and he had just had his eyes on gold, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.839 and then to be out of the Games in your 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.600 very first fight, and as he said, when you've been 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.360 two decades of work and this is the pinnacle. The 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:05.559 devastation was there. But what we love is that raw honesty, vulnerability, 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.079 and with Harry Garside, that's what you get. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.599 He's coming up after. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:23.040 This, let's get ready to remold. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:29.400 And the crowd goes wild because coming up right now 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:35.000 we have someone who fights stereotypes, intrusive thoughts and sitting still. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.360 He's been on I'm a celeb, Get me out of here. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.480 He's coming up on Dancing with the Stars, he's an 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.000 Olympic medalist. He's got a fight coming up. May you 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.600 please welcome one of the greatest humans. It's Harry Garca. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:51.959 Yay, Harry, are you guys? What an intro the greatest humans. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:52.760 I'll take that. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.880 Proud ourselves on making people feel welcome. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.839 We really do, we really do it. So wonderful to 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.360 see your face, Harry. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.720 The last time Georgie ran in to you, you weren't 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.600 aware of, but I received a phone call from Georgie going, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.439 oh my god, I'm in Bronty and Harry Garsid just 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.200 ran past. He lapped me eight times. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.840 Oh my god. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:12.880 George can tell the story. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.320 This is a true story, Harry. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.960 I was walking with my partner Robert along Bronti and 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.440 we were coming up to our own training regime for 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.560 a reality show called The Amazing Race, and I was 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.360 just about to start jogging when I only just felt 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:28.800 some wind past me. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.640 Like just I was like, whoa, what was that? 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.080 It was like the whole world had shifted, and I 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.160 wasn't quite sure why. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.760 And it was because you had. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.120 Sprinted past me at such pace that it was like 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:46.320 I'd been swiveled around like a Warner Brothers Bugs bunny cat. Honestly, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.640 you were going so fast and I was like, oh, well, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.839 he can't go that fast up the hill. And then 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.839 we just stood there and watched as you did go 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.520 I think, even faster up that huge hill between Bronti 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.600 and Bloody Clavelli, and then went. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.200 By the time time we got to the hill, you 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:02.360 were coming back again, and. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:03.400 I was like, he back again. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.960 That's the thing about I absolutely love running because I'm 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.760 always trying to run away from my head noise. But 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.920 unfortunately you can't get away from us. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.720 You really can't. But clearly working for your fitness, Harry, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.440 tell us a little bit, how is your training going, 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.120 because we're less than a week out from fight night, right, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.280 so what's tapering look like? What does this week look 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:22.760 like for you? 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.480 So my last hard session is tonight, we got we've 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.360 got six rounds asparring. It would be like probably the 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.880 intensity level will be about eighty percent, so still like 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.600 relatively starting to pull back. But after tonight it's just full, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.480 full seam ahead about making weight. So you pull back 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.760 on the training and you'll you really focus on just 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.000 getting your weight right, which is so exciting I absolutely 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:45.640 can't wait for it. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.520 Is that Sauna's running with tracksuits, like we know what 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.319 jockeys do to cut weight is insane. But with the boxing, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.160 how important is it to keep your strength up while 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.040 also cutting weight and how do you find that balance. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.880 I think jockey's probably cut harder than what we do, 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.600 just purely because they, like we are genuinely competing with 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.439 someone else. They're obviously competing with a horse, I guess, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:11.120 but yeah, competing with who who was trying to really 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.120 hurt us. So we can't cut too much, although a 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.920 lot of boxers do do probably a bit too much, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.320 and I think that does sort of show on fight night. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.880 But I'm sitting in a really, really good range, so 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.440 I'm really excited to sort of get in there next week. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.600 And it's been so long out of the ring. July 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.480 last year was my last fight professionally, was three years ago. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.480 So I'm a lot of pressure, a lot of inside noise, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.960 but also very excited to sort of push through that 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.640 as there is a lot of nervous energy. I think 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.000 at the moment for myself. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:41.800 How is that head noise? 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.120 Harry, One of the reasons that Australia and we love 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.400 you so much is because you are always so open, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:50.880 You're honest, you're raw. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.080 About everything that is happening. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.680 With you, like, what is the anxiety, like if there 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.840 is any going back into the ring because it has 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.440 been so long. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.360 Yeah, I think for myself it's the head noise is 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.920 quite quite strong. In the moment. I think I just 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.640 feel like as an athlete, I lost my respect for myself, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.680 and the reason why I'm getting back in there is 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.200 purely to try and gain that respect back. I think 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.720 the only way out is through. You know, you're not 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.920 gonna for me. I'm not gonna gain the respect just 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.720 sitting on the couch or you know, doing something else. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.960 I think I really genuinely need to get back in 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.720 the ring, just for myself, just so I can get 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.440 to the position that I felt. I guess prior to 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.640 the Tokyo Olympics, I felt like I was the best 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.880 athlete I possibly could be, and then you know, I 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.640 showed up really well at the Tokyo Olympics. So I 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.640 feel like I really want to get back to that position. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.560 I have no real expectation for myself over the next 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.280 six to twelve months. It's just all about getting back 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.800 to the best athlete I possibly can be and then 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.960 looking to go overseas. But at the moment, I just 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.600 think because it's been so long out of the ring, 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.200 like there is so much nervous energy. But also I 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.520 love this. I live for this, I truly. I think 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.640 it's a place that I feel most alive and most 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.080 myself and I love that. You know, over the next 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.040 six days I'm going to be faced with so many 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.440 mental challenges and I think, as I said, the only 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.320 way out is through. You can just got to confront 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.080 some head on. And I absolutely love that. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.080 That's beautiful, isn't it. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.000 Oh my gosh. I need some of that resilience. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.840 I need you printed like on a little card for 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.680 me to read every morning and just in. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:26.560 My ear every morning. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.640 I think my mentality is the only way out is 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.760 stage lesson. I ain't gone through. I'm doing everything I can, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.080 which is probably why I'm not a boxer, to be fair. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.280 But Harry, I'm so glad that you brought up Tokyo 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.200 because that's when I think, and it must have felt 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.840 like a wave for you. Australia were all stuck in 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.640 their houses watching the Olympics and here was this guy 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.400 wearing now a Polish being himself and everyone literally just 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.600 fell in love with this character. And you were so 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.600 real and so unfiltered with who you were. Has it 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.280 surprised you how much Australia has just embraced you for you, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.000 because I'm sure there were times where you thought, oh, 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.560 I don't know if people are ready for the fact 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:07.720 that I am a bit different. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.200 Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's always surprising. I think 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.000 that's the beauty of social media now, right. I think 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.560 individuals have the freedom now and the power now to 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.879 be themselves and realizing the world's a big place. And 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.600 I think before social media, all that we had was 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.159 our community. And I think you are, you know, not pigeonhole, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.639 but you do have certain boundaries if your community doesn't 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.840 explore certain things and stuff like that. And I think 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.399 the beauty of social media is I think there's space 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.680 for everyone, you know. I think you can you can 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.800 showcase stuff to the world about yourself and you will 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.520 find like minded people out there, which is quite exciting 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.640 and it's been really amazing. I think twenty twenty one, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.080 I don't know if I fully understood how to sort 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.560 of deal with like like fame or anything like that. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.280 And I think it took me a couple of years 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.800 to fully understand how to deal with it, and I 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.440 think I did get quite distracted little bit, and I 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.479 think that's probably why maybe Paris didn't turn out how 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.280 I planned it would. But it's nice to sort of 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.560 realize that. I think I needed to experience that, as 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.639 you know, I was in my mid twenties, and I 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.720 think that's where you probably learned the most about yourself. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.960 So I'm really happy. I just feel like I found 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.359 my community. I've found my people who accept me, and 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.320 it's been pretty pretty amazing, especially obviously Postparis, like not 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.600 getting the result that I wanted, but then feeling like 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.679 I got a massive hug from Australia, Like I felt 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.960 so body grateful to be Australia, which is such a 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:31.440 wild thing. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.080