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Speaker 1: Johnny Pinder is in the building.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's already Uh, someone who has put their pet

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Speaker 2: in for a portrait. He's getting a really good deal

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Speaker 2: because john has already done one while he was waiting.

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Speaker 2: And it's a proper professional.

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Speaker 3: To be fair. That is one of the best looking

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Speaker 3: dogs I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: A beautiful dog.

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Speaker 4: It's got it's got a costumer. It's easy to do

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Speaker 4: a nice portrait of an animal when it looks.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just popped out of a Disney thing? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Would we say that was aoodle.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely one of those kind of oodle.

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Speaker 2: It's an noodle for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's Oh, you're in for a trade. You are going

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Speaker 3: to frame this beauty.

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Speaker 2: I can't draw.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen any of these.

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Speaker 1: Masterpieces from mister pieces from yesterday's good stuff. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: Marcus in a number because every no I want.

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Speaker 4: I remember seeing some years ago there was a thing

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Speaker 4: somebody did a drawing competition type thing, didn't they on

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Speaker 4: the internet, And somebody had drawn this almost felt a

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Speaker 4: realistic dog, and then some little kid had just sort

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Speaker 4: of done what was in their heart right and it

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Speaker 4: was ridiculous, and the kid won the competition. But That's

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Speaker 4: a character thing, isn't it. I don't always have to be.

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Speaker 3: And what we are.

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Speaker 2: Doing, this initiative, it's a beautiful thing that we're doing

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Speaker 2: with the cat have to raise money, it's.

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Speaker 3: Called poorly drawn pets. Now we are not promising well

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Speaker 3: you know pets.

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Speaker 2: We are promising amateur sort of You know, did you receive.

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Speaker 3: It in the spirit with which it was intended? If anything?

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Speaker 4: For me, I'm dead last because.

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Speaker 3: I've renegged on the deal. If phto as well as.

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Speaker 2: A comedy are as we know a tattoo as we do.

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Speaker 3: You know that you could draw.

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Speaker 4: I started to know that I could draw, or I

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Speaker 4: started to guess that perhaps I could draw when Mi

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Speaker 4: Nana was arping on about it.

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Speaker 3: When I was little, she took me to see Hook.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember Hook?

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Speaker 4: Some it was largely dismissed that movie, but there's a

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Speaker 4: certain certain sort of generation of people for whom it

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Speaker 4: is the holy movie. And I was one of them people.

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Speaker 4: And Robin William you can't beat it as a Peter

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Speaker 4: Pan film. Julia robers tinker Bell, Yeah, yeah, ideal, that's

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Speaker 4: what you want in a tinker Bell.

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Speaker 3: You want Julia Roberts.

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Speaker 4: And we went and watched that a cinema in Manchester,

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Speaker 4: and I came home and apparently drew them in exquisite

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Speaker 4: detail in birol Mi. Nana kept them and she'd up

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Speaker 4: on about and for years. And when she passed away

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Speaker 4: and my mum was like clearing out her house and stuff,

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Speaker 4: she found those drawings. She goes, you never guess what

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Speaker 4: I've found. She goes, I found you, Peter Pan and

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Speaker 4: your captain. She sent to me god awful, dreadful drawing

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Speaker 4: for any age he went from memory, real bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think she was, But I think perhaps she Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think perhaps she just decided to instill some confidence

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Speaker 4: in me that kept me drawing. I don't know, and

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Speaker 4: he just improved and I was just delusional enough to

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Speaker 4: go along with it for many years.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, John, you do two of the

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Speaker 1: things for me. You do two of the things that

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Speaker 1: would be the filming with the most dread Right, So

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Speaker 1: you stand on stage and you do comedy and then

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Speaker 1: you go and put tattoo art on people's bodies. You

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Speaker 1: can't make a mistake.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean I would argue there that you

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Speaker 4: do a thing that fills me with the most dread

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Speaker 4: which is getting up this earlier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's got a special thing. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: They say you can't make a mistake in tattoos, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've walked around many shoppings lately,

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Speaker 4: I would say it's relatively accepted. Because you walk around

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Speaker 4: any westfield, you'll be lucky to spot a good tattoo, right,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but your standard pretty we're.

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Speaker 4: Almost proud of it in w A, I think as well.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's why they start doing the

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Speaker 4: barley sleeve. They sort of want it to look a

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Speaker 4: little bit now.

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Speaker 2: So I'm about to say there's a little bit too

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Speaker 2: much getting it, you know offshore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: They don't bother about goods so much as they are

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Speaker 4: about quick get down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I've always been four grand on

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Speaker 3: the whole thing. Yeah, able to drink absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, now, Claise is not too bad. You've

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Speaker 2: seen you saw his cat and you saw.

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Speaker 4: I'm still defending yours. I think there's something zen about charm. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the single lines, see Claes, He's had effort and sketch.

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Speaker 4: You could see that the man was it was aiming

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Speaker 4: heighth Yeah, whereas yours is a collection of circles squiggles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is a lot of people send us some little,

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Speaker 2: you know, clues as to how you do draw. It

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Speaker 2: was usually a cat based on circles. Yeah, is this

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Speaker 2: is this a thing? Would you recommend? That's my googling

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Speaker 2: those sort of sights? I think what would your biggest usually? Right,

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Speaker 2: this is legitimate drawing tips. This is this is no

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Speaker 2: longer going to be having a laugh and being finn.

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Speaker 2: If I'm boring, I apology.

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Speaker 4: Simply yeah, simplify it into like you can usually separate

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Speaker 4: things into not even necessarily circles, but sort of shapes.

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Speaker 4: Like when I drew that we diddly doodle kind of curly.

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Speaker 4: I separated as we snooter, you know, the snouty bit

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Speaker 4: into a kind of I don't know, burger bond shape,

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Speaker 4: and then a little sort of upside down triangle shape

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Speaker 4: for the nose.

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Speaker 3: The eyes were ovals, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: And if you look at things in blocks and simplify things,

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Speaker 4: you can get My daughter has terrible trouble with this

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Speaker 4: because she always wants things to start looking beautiful and

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Speaker 4: realistic from the very.

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Speaker 3: Moment she starts, I just can't, so she gets so.

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Speaker 4: When I was little and I would drive my dad

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Speaker 4: and get so angry at me because I would start

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Speaker 4: to draw a portrait of somebody and I would have

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Speaker 4: this perfect nose and then I would go from there

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Speaker 4: and do the arch of the eyebrow, and then I

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Speaker 4: get this wonderfully realistic eye, and then I do the

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Speaker 4: other eye.

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Speaker 3: But it was all squiffy, and I would throw it away. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 4: I would go again, over and over, and it took

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Speaker 4: me years to realize.

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Speaker 3: Just draw it in very very simple chips. Yeah, draw

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Speaker 3: a little and then you can then you can add

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, go over it and just scribble over

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Speaker 4: it until it's the.

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Speaker 2: Big picture, not one feature at a time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. And people don't like People don't really

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Speaker 4: like neatness. People are overly fixated when they try and

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Speaker 4: draw something on neatness day in the lines you've got

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Speaker 4: to People don't want that. People like a sketch. People

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Speaker 4: like it scribbly. If you show somebody at if you've

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Speaker 4: drawn up a tattoo for somebody, they very rarely. If

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Speaker 4: you've put all every collar and shade and every nice

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Speaker 4: neat line in there.

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Speaker 3: That's when they go, do you think they can change

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Speaker 3: this bit? You think they could put this if you

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Speaker 3: show them like a really loose scribble a guy? That's

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Speaker 3: so good? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Sorry, that was

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Speaker 3: me imitating my customers.

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Speaker 1: So John, you think maybe not aim so high next

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Speaker 1: because my cat ended up having eyes like Fagan from

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Speaker 1: all Between.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just reminded me of those medieval cat you know,

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Speaker 4: in those like Renaissance paintings. It was branding up on

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Speaker 4: two legs. It was playing a flute, marching into battle.

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Speaker 3: John, thank you so much. Thanks for having us advice.

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Speaker 3: We might be able to hit you up for another portrait. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Someone donated one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll do that, and I'll make it real nice

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Speaker 4: because I'm a I'm a cat person. I like this

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Speaker 4: cat Haven charity. I'm a cat person.

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Speaker 2: Dogs you know Lotts. Did the person say I'll give

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Speaker 2: you a hundred dollars for Lisa lot to do it?

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Speaker 2: What it was?

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Speaker 3: They probably wanted one of the forty players. They probably

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Speaker 3: wanted it's a bit of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you had it, can you draw Lisa.

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Speaker 4: I would never, would never, never draw a lady's You

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Speaker 4: know this friends, Yeah, she's wearing the heart of the ocean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking about nothing.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about ka quins.

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Speaker 3: Johnny, thank you.