1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: First up this morning, we know the COLP government say 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: that they have ramped up action on the corrections crisis, 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: with more than sixty prisoners transferred to the newly operational 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Behramer Correctional Center and an additional fifty prisoners preparing to 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: relocate from Holtz. The Minister for Corrections, Jared Mayley said 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: yesterday the transfers come as prisoner numbers climb to two 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: than four hundred and ninety seven. That is astronomical. Those 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: numbers are massive and we know that it highlights significant 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: pressures on the correction system, but also the government say 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: on their commitment to keeping criminals off the street. I'm 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: pleased to say that. The Northern Territory Corrections Commissioner, Matthew 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Varley joins me on the line. Good morning to you, Commissioner. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie. Good to talk again, Commissioner. 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Sixty prisoners are now in Berrimer Correctional Facility. When did 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: they move in. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: Well, sixty six actually, Katie today. We've moved there in 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: over the last two weeks since we've been able to 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: bring the first block of that facility online. I was 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: there yesterday with the team on the ground and having 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: a look and we've done some amazing work. The team 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: have worked NonStop really with our friends from Infrastructure Oricon 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: and there's some amazing contractors out there, Katie from QP Group, 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: there's a whole team there and I've got to tell 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: you other work that's been done there to bring that 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: facility back to life and online, there's been nothing short 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: of amazing. But there's another block. The second block in 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 2: that facility will be bought online probably early next week 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: and if we can make it work and extra fifty 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: prisoners in there before Christmas. 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: So an extra fifty before Christmas. How big an impact 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: is this having for you in terms of those moving 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: pieces really of the puzzle of trying to make sure 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: that you can accommodate all these additional prisoners. 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's a relief valve in some respects, Katie. And 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: we've been able to reduce a little bit of pressure 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: on the system by bringing sixty six prisoners out of 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, Palmerston and Holtz into that facility. They're sixty 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: six sentence prisoners and that makes way for new intakes 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: of reception remands from the police. But to be honest, Katie, 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: as fast as we can empty it out. The police 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: fill it back up with their arrests and their hard activity, 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: and you know, we're just going to keep responding to 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: that as best we can. But you know, you mentioned 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: two thousand and four hundred and ninety seven that was 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: on Monday, and of course that's a record high for 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: the territory, almost twenty five hundred prisoners. I didn't expect 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 2: to see that number until you know, this time next year. 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: And to give you and your listeners some perspective, Katie, 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: you know, that's one hundred prisoners we've gone up in 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: a month. So back on the nineteenth of November we 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: had two thousand, three hundred and ninety six. So one 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: hundred prisoners in a month, Katie, that. 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: Is a lot. It's a huge number of additional prisoners 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: to try to be accommodating. Commissioner, how you know, how 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: are things going? More broadly, I guess when you look 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: at the number of prisoners that are coming in to 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: the system and the way in which you try to 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: juggle everything, and then of course managing you know, the 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: needs of staff. 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Katie, the first thing I want to say 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: is that our staff have been sensational that you know, 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: they're working hard, they're working long hours, they're working over time, 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: they're working nights and weekends to make this work. And 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: you know, I've had nothing but help and support from 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: my senior officers and my troops on the ground in 66 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: all the prisons, and people are stumping up to the challenge. 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: You know. In fairness, our folks have been under pressure 68 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: for a months and year now and they just continue 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: to show up and get the job done for the territory. 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm really proud of that. But you know, we're not 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: blind to the fact that we need more officers, we 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: need more staff in our prisons, we need more psychologists. 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: So that's why we keep recruiting, Katie. And you know, 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: even today I'm out at Owen. We're swearing in nine 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: new offices today in Darwen, another eight tomorrow in Alice Springs, 76 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: and in January, Katie, I'm very happy to say to 77 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: the community that we've got another forty new recruits commencing 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: in the middle of January. That's our largest course ever. 79 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: That is good. That's good news, and by the sounds 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: of it, absolutely needed. Can I ask where are things 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: at the with the Youth Center in Alice Springs, being 82 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: repurposed yep. 83 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: So we still have young people in Alice Springs. They'll 84 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: stay there through Christmas and into early New year. We've 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: made a decision that we'll look to relocate those progressively 86 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: from early January. And we have seventeen young people in 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: detention in Alice Springs and twenty one in Holts today 88 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: total thirty eight. So you know, we're progressively winding down 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: the Alice Springs Youth Center. But there are some complexities 90 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: with that and I I need to make sure I 91 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: deal with the real locations carefully so that I can 92 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: then start the works to repurpose that facility for women. 93 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: But just down the road Katie, at the Paperbark Facility, 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: we have the new bile support accommodation facility and what 95 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: will eventually be soon a intake remand center for young people. 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: And we've already started the contract works and the design 97 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: works to bring that facility online early in the new 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: year and in quarter one for young people. 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Now, in terms of the youth detention center in Darwin, 100 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: we know that all that damage was caused just a 101 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. How are things going now there? 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, our staff there have done a tough job, 103 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: and a remarkable job as well. We're recalibrating how we 104 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: run that center and making sure that we manage those 105 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: young people who have damaged that facility with I guess 106 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: perhaps a more shall we say, a careful regime and 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: how we managed that behavior. This is challenging work, Katie, 108 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: with some young people with very difficult behaviors and what 109 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: we're doing. And I'm meeting with my senior staff with 110 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: the Youth Justice managers on Monday to work through what 111 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: are the tools and policy leavers that I need to 112 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: look at to tighten up how we run the security 113 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: of those centers. I don't certainly want to see another 114 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: incident like that occur, but where the damage was done, 115 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: you know, we worked hard to fix that that facility 116 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: is operational. There's still more we can do, Katie. 117 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: How many young people have you actually got in there 118 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: at this point? 119 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: In Holtz we have twenty one and as I said earlier, 120 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: Alice Springs seventeen, So there's thirty eight young people in 121 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: detention today. It's a constant challenge. You know, they come 122 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: in there on ramand they go to court et cetera, 123 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: c And as you say, they're often bailed. But we 124 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 2: have plenty ofpacity in that facility and we're working hard 125 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: to make sure we can send we'll manage whoever comes 126 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: to our customers. 127 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: Can I ask in terms of the thirty eight young 128 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: people that are there, I'm assuming that the time that 129 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: they are in therefore obviously varies, and you've put you know, 130 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: like you've just outlined a number of reasons why that 131 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: might vary. They may indeed be on remand etc. And 132 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: may then end up being bailed. But when they are 133 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: in that detention facility, are they completing programs to you know, 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: to try and get them off the wrong track. 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And you know, things that people would expect 136 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: us to deliver, like school. You know, the kids are 137 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: required to school. The Department of Education has teachers in 138 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: the facility every day. So we run school programs, we 139 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: run rehabilitation programs, and we run cultural programs, and of 140 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: course we have a very dedicated specialist assessment and treatment 141 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: team in there. Now. These are specialized psychologists and treatment 142 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: clinicians who work with the kids. Now, you know, we 143 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: understand the community's expectation that these kids face consequences for 144 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: their crimes, and they do that However, we also have 145 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: to make sure we're providing you know, the specialized clinical 146 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: treatment for some of these high needs kids. 147 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Well, and look, you know, in some cases it sounds 148 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: like it would actually be a good thing for them 149 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: to be in there if it means that they are 150 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: going to be involved in those programs and that they 151 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: are going to you know, if it's going to help 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: to get them on the right track. I know there's 153 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pushback from that and people not wanting 154 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: to see them in detention. I get that, But you know, 155 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: the more and more that we're hearing about about some 156 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: young people being bailed, you know a number of times, 157 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: the number of times that does not meet the community's expectations, 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: I just start to wonder bigger picture wise. You know, 159 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: how we do things differently to make sure that the 160 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: community is safe. 161 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: I present, Katie, and we understand that. And you know, 162 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: for a lot of these kids that come into detention, 163 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: to be fair, you know, sometimes structure that we're giving 164 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: them is some of the first structure they've had in 165 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: a long time. We make them get up in the morning, 166 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: we make them go to school, we make them go 167 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: to these programs, into their classes and as you can expect, 168 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: sometimes they don't like that very much and we have 169 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: to manage that behavior. And our staff do an amazing 170 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: job trying to dance a very fine line between you know, 171 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: authority and custody and an environment that kids can and 172 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 2: from now. Obviously, you know, in today's age, we need 173 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: to make sure that we do all we can to 174 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: rehabilitate young people. It's tough because some of them are 175 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: with us for short time. Katie. You know, of thirty eight, 176 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: about twenty eight of those young people are on remand 177 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: and you know that could you know, the time they 178 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: spend with us could change depending on their court case 179 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: and you know, whatever happens there. But by and large, 180 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: whilst they're in our care and our custody, they go 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: to class, they have a routine. We do our best 182 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: to make sure that they learn something. 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Commissioner, before I let you go this morning, I know 184 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: you're under the pump, as are we already today before 185 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: I let you go. You know, there is a lot 186 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: of Territorians at the moment that are sort of saying 187 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: to themselves, you know, it's a good thing. Obviously, the 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: police are arresting, you know, arresting people when they're doing 189 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. They are then going into our corrections 190 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: system once they've either been put on remand or seen 191 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: their day in court. I guess a lot of people 192 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: sort of wondering how tough or how you know, how 193 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: corrections are going to continue to cope with these ever 194 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: growing numbers. 195 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: And Katie, that's why we work so hard every day 196 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: to try and figure out the next step in our plan. 197 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: You know, we'll be working through Christmas and through New 198 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: Year and we'll figure it out. And I'm confident that 199 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: we'll just make it work. You know, if you'd ask 200 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: me two months ago, I would have hoped that my 201 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: plan for Berrima would see the numbers reduced in the watchhouses. 202 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: That hasn't worked for me, and that's not in my 203 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: favor because of the police activity. It's my job to 204 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: then redraw the plan, move the chess pieces around, talk 205 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: to my staff and keep going. So you know, we've 206 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: got a long term plan for the infrastructure master plan 207 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: that we talked about yesterday, but tactically, every day my 208 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: team is trying to figure out how we juggle these 209 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: numbers and we're just going to make it work, Katie, 210 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: because we know that's what the community expects. 211 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: How much longer do you anticipate that you're going to 212 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: have to keep prisoners in the watch houses? 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: As long as I need to, Katie. To be quite 214 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: honest with you, you know, I know the police are 215 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: under pressure. I know they want their watch houses back. 216 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: We are building Bremer as fast as we can. We 217 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: have the bill works in Alice Springs Correctional Facility for 218 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: those modulars again as fast as we can. I'm putting 219 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on the contractors to make all 220 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: this work. But at the end of the day, what 221 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: I see is everyone in my team working hard to 222 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: figure this out. And you know, at the end of 223 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: the day, if the police send us another hundred prisoners 224 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: next month, we'll just keep going. 225 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: Well. Corrections Commissioner Matthew Varley, I really appreciate your time 226 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: this morning. I appreciate all the time that you have 227 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: given us throughout the year. I know it's going to 228 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: be a busy Christmas by the sounds of things, but 229 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you, to all of the correctional staff 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: working bloody hard under what our difficult circumstances. 231 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, and thanks to you and the community. Support 232 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: for corrections. Our staff are often quite behind the scenes, 233 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: but let me tell you they're out there protecting the 234 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: community as much as anyone, every day of the week. 235 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thanks so much. Appreciate your time.