WEBVTT - Okay, This Emma Chamberlain Stuff Needs To Stop ☕️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweety guys, we must discuss the Internet deciding that Emma

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<v Speaker 2>Chamberlain is no longer the it girl, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>deciding to be neutral about her. They are turning on

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<v Speaker 2>her and it is unfortunate to see because we see

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle happen like clockwork. All I'm saying is, if

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to keep canceling people, cancel some it boys.

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<v Speaker 2>I can name a couple off of the dome, but

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<v Speaker 2>I won't because I'm trying to be better.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the dos and don'ts at the airport. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go Flex and Frooms on Keda.

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<v Speaker 2>The Internet is turning on Emma Chamberlain, who is at

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<v Speaker 2>one point she was one of the fastest growing YouTubers

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<v Speaker 2>in YouTube history, which was just just insane. She started

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<v Speaker 2>out or her whole appeal is from being quite a

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<v Speaker 2>regular person, and the reason why that is so appealing

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<v Speaker 2>to our people is because she came to fame right

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<v Speaker 2>at the height of the influencer and the beauty blogger

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<v Speaker 2>and all of these quite perceivedly contrived spaces. She was

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<v Speaker 2>a breath of fresh air. She didn't really wear makeup.

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<v Speaker 2>She talked a lot about her mental illness anyway. So

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, we've seen trends of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people loving Internet people and then hating them after a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days, years, or months. It's a cycle that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody goes through. It can't be avoided. But what is

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<v Speaker 2>also very interesting is what people choose to hate people for.

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<v Speaker 2>In this instance, Emma Chamberlain has positioned herself as someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is quite creative and artsy, and that creative and

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<v Speaker 2>artsiness has like a natural lens of curiosity. And she

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<v Speaker 2>has a podcast called Anything Goes, in which she sits

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<v Speaker 2>on her bed and talks into the void about stuff

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<v Speaker 2>she's going through. It's very inoffensive, some might say tone deaf,

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<v Speaker 2>because the stuff she's going through is being a multi

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<v Speaker 2>millionaire deciding that she didn't want to go to a

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<v Speaker 2>fashion show because it was too stressful. Now a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fans or content consumers of Emma are flooding the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet with critiques about how she should stop podcasting or

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<v Speaker 2>she should start going to UNI if she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about philosophy and literature and psychology and any of

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<v Speaker 2>these ologies, because she isn't necessarily informed, and because she

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<v Speaker 2>isn't naturally informed or a natural critical thinker, it's making

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<v Speaker 2>her come across as dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is rich.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very very very very very rich. The one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I will say is whether or not you are a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of Emma or not. We see this happen in

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<v Speaker 2>society a lot, where people look out into the world

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<v Speaker 2>and see people who are just like them but five

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<v Speaker 2>years behind in their journey, and critique them so heavily

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<v Speaker 2>it feels unfounded. I have no doubt the people critiquing

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<v Speaker 2>Emma Chamberlain right now were Emma Chamberlain five years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>The same understanding of the world, the same ignorance, is

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<v Speaker 2>the same lack of nuance, the same binary thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>You were that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why this irks you so much, because you

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<v Speaker 2>see how uninformed it is, You see how much tact

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<v Speaker 2>it lacks, and it frustrates you because you're like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not great, and it makes you hypersensitive, and instead

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<v Speaker 2>of looking inward, you're projecting outwards. The first five people

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<v Speaker 2>who said, okay, Emma is like not really a great

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<v Speaker 2>critical thinker. Eight they ate the other seven million of you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are distancing yourself from your people. Yeah, like there

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing that Emma is doing that you aren't doing

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<v Speaker 2>his thing. When I tell people that they need to

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<v Speaker 2>read the news and they need to read books, I

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<v Speaker 2>get called elitists. Here's a fact, you cannot understand the

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<v Speaker 2>world around you if you do not consume information that

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<v Speaker 2>helps you undertand the world around you. It's just there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way to get around it. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to explore the world around you in a

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<v Speaker 2>more critical way. It has a framework, it has a format,

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<v Speaker 2>it has a structure. You don't really need that in

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<v Speaker 2>everyday conversation. You can use it, but you don't need it.

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<v Speaker 2>So when someone has a natural inclination to want to

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<v Speaker 2>learn more about the world through philosophy through his and

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<v Speaker 2>your response to that is, well, they need to go

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<v Speaker 2>to UNI to educate themselves on how to properly research,

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<v Speaker 2>and how to properly do commentary, and how to properly

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<v Speaker 2>structure an argument. Do you not hear the flaw in

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<v Speaker 2>that it's giving bring back free education. You're now saying

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<v Speaker 2>that people who don't have a tertiary education don't have

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<v Speaker 2>permission to talk about the world that they inhibit because

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<v Speaker 2>they can't do it in an academic way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're speaking for yourself. What is that cycle? There's

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<v Speaker 1>like a psychological readon behind why people.

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<v Speaker 2>Turn Yeah, and if they went to college. No, But

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<v Speaker 2>for really, you see it happen all the time. I

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<v Speaker 2>get really really paranoid, especially when you see people on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet like suddenly like singling out certain demographic or

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<v Speaker 2>certain type of persons and an archetype. It's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is it about that that is frustrating you so much?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what is it about that person or that behavior

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<v Speaker 2>that's frustrating you oh much? And what you often find

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<v Speaker 2>is they're just looking in the mirror but at a

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<v Speaker 2>different point in time, and that's frustrating. The questions I

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<v Speaker 2>have is why let's spell it out together. Why should

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<v Speaker 2>this person have to go and do study to speak?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Let's just let that one simmer for a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll speak on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, yeah, I get the thing when it's

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<v Speaker 3>like you see you hate something in someone and then

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<v Speaker 3>you later, like a few years later, realize it was

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<v Speaker 3>because they either had something you wanted or yeah it

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<v Speaker 3>was like a beta version of you. Yeah, that hits

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<v Speaker 3>very differently tumbling or not even.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a beta version of you, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us if people do it naturally, you

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<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of time trying to conceal the parts

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff that you don't like, right, And so you

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<v Speaker 2>don't just do it because you're indifferent. You actually dislike

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<v Speaker 2>those parts, and so you hide them. You hide them,

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<v Speaker 2>you hide them, you hide them, And then it would

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<v Speaker 2>be frustrating to look at into the world and people

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<v Speaker 2>validate if having those same skills. It's like everybody who

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<v Speaker 2>has a bully story being like, oh, my goodness, my

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<v Speaker 2>whole life I was bullied having freckles and now you

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<v Speaker 2>all draw them on. That's so frustrating as opposed to thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in a world now I no longer get bullied

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<v Speaker 2>for having freckles and they're now beautiful, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like, you can't bypass that healing aspect

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<v Speaker 2>that makes you see things a little bit more objectively

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<v Speaker 2>when you're stuck in the bubble of us and them,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead of using this information, like, for example, when

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<v Speaker 2>I see someone like Emma Chamberlain make this big jump

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<v Speaker 2>from fashion content to philosophical and like that is so interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and look at what she's going to do for her audience,

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<v Speaker 2>who will now have these philosophical discussions.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be a lecturer to do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>by that logic, then like you can't be asking any

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<v Speaker 2>random influencer to do anything that's not within their pay

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<v Speaker 2>grade of showing you and selling you stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Careful what you wish for.

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<v Speaker 3>There are little things that happen in life, particularly physiologically,

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<v Speaker 3>that I sometimes think I'm the only person that experiences

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<v Speaker 3>one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me, Mickey, if you experienced this.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Sometimes I drink water and it goes down my

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<v Speaker 3>throat and it really hurts my chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of that? Hope you experienced that, Mickey.

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<v Speaker 4>When you pitch this to me, I have to admit

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't fully understand. Really yeah, I'm really sorry by

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<v Speaker 4>but I think maybe it's happened once or twice, but

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<v Speaker 4>I can't say it's like a frequent occurrence that has

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<v Speaker 4>plagued me, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I came across because somebody posted a meme

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<v Speaker 3>which was when I swallow my water weird and it

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<v Speaker 3>creates the worst chest pain known to man.

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<v Speaker 1>This is different to interigestion. Guys, someone out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone out there listening will understand what this is. I

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<v Speaker 3>always wondered it was on the Explain Why I'm five?

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<v Speaker 3>Why does it hurt when you swallow? A beverage sub reddit,

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<v Speaker 3>And it turns out that this very specific feeling is

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<v Speaker 3>when the muscles in your esophagus push food and drink

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<v Speaker 3>to the stomach by contracting and relaxing in waves. Think

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<v Speaker 3>of trying to push a small piece of food through

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<v Speaker 3>a drinking straw. You can squeeze the straw behind it

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<v Speaker 3>and it'll move it forward a bit, Then move your

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<v Speaker 3>fingers forward a little bit and squeeze again. Eventually you

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<v Speaker 3>can push all the all the way through. The muscles

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<v Speaker 3>in your usophacas work the same way over and over again,

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<v Speaker 3>but instead of squeezing on one spot, it squeezes lots

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<v Speaker 3>of places all at once. There are pouches in loose

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<v Speaker 3>spots between the squeeze spots.

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<v Speaker 1>The food rides.

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<v Speaker 3>Down in each of these pouches as a squeezy spot

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<v Speaker 3>behind it pushes it forward, and then sometimes a piece

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<v Speaker 3>of food or drink can get stuck in a squeezy spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the usophacus muscles try to push it down, but

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<v Speaker 3>since there's something in the way. It hurts like any

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<v Speaker 3>strained muscle. Sometimes the food can stay stuck with that

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<v Speaker 3>squeezy spot and it will hurt all the way down

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<v Speaker 3>to your stomach.

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<v Speaker 1>How cool is that? And while we're here, I want.

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<v Speaker 3>To give everyone else another fun fact which some of

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<v Speaker 3>you might know. But I was with a friend last

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<v Speaker 3>night and she didn't know. Your stomach is like inside

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<v Speaker 3>your ribs.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that?

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<v Speaker 3>Where'd you think it was down like near my belly button?

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<v Speaker 3>But your stomach is quite high up in your body.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's similar to you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, yeah, it's all the intestines down here. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>your stomach is here, like just where the ribs are.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we say you have stomach aches, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think that's what's happening. Then, No, it's I felt like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a large and test dynach.

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<v Speaker 3>And which makes sense because there's all the stuff I'm

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<v Speaker 3>moving around there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just under your ribs.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes when you've just eaten, if you're posting that

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<v Speaker 3>bit between the rooms and say, oh, yeah, my stomach

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<v Speaker 3>is there like there, I'll give it a try later,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Please. You're listening to flex and rooms on kit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like clockwork, we are realizing that some people are smart

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<v Speaker 2>and some people are dumb, and hopefully we spend time

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<v Speaker 2>orbiting both sections. In order to be smart, one must

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<v Speaker 2>admit to being dumb and then you know, gaining some

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<v Speaker 2>information and vice versa. I've been thinking a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>learning because I feel like, especially if you think about

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<v Speaker 2>your friend groups, when you have a friend that doesn't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to like you have responsibility to teach them

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't feel that way. Like if I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 2>a friend about Love Ireland, like, oh, I've never watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never an issue to be like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>here here's some information. Here's what it's about, Here's why

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, here is whatever, whatever, whatever. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>also the responsibility of the recipient to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm storing that information. I'm gonna storing it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna ask you again, or I'm gonna ask clarifying questions

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<v Speaker 2>so I get it more. It's like a dance, but

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<v Speaker 2>that dance seems to escape when it matters. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I have been subscribed to this newsletter from this creator

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<v Speaker 2>called Hannah Stella, and to be honest, she's just a

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<v Speaker 2>sociologist through and through. I first came across her on

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok because she documented getting divorced and then went to

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<v Speaker 2>live on a boat. She lives, She truly lives, But

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<v Speaker 2>she was talking about some core memories that she had

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<v Speaker 2>around learning and recognizing that learning for her and knowing

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<v Speaker 2>more stuff is required a level of initiative and dedication,

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<v Speaker 2>and what I think is a level of self celebration

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But in her newsletter she talks about when

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<v Speaker 2>she was sixteen years old that she worked for the

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and tenth US Congress as a Congressional page.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The program's now defunct, but from what

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<v Speaker 2>I can gather, she basically says, it's a place where

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<v Speaker 2>her and sixty five other high schoolers applied to go

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<v Speaker 2>and eat and drink and live together and learn about Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a daily session they would run documents between politicians,

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<v Speaker 2>ring bells, deliver phone calls, pass on messages. But she

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<v Speaker 2>says it was her first real experience with a multi

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<v Speaker 2>leveled diversity of peers socioeconomic, geographic, and racial. They're all American,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but a diverse group in any other sense,

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<v Speaker 2>and in this page school it was the first place

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<v Speaker 2>that she developed the ability to listen to someone who

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<v Speaker 2>thinks differently than she does, with the intention of understanding

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<v Speaker 2>their logic and their argument, and with the intention of

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<v Speaker 2>learning something about them and by extension, about herself, rather

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<v Speaker 2>with the intention of immediately passionately and condescendingly spitting contradictory views.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, it's where she.

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<v Speaker 2>Learned to set preconceptions and anger aside and hear people

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<v Speaker 2>where they are rather than where she wants them to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought that was fascinating because I doubt that

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<v Speaker 2>when she was how old that she might have known this,

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<v Speaker 2>But in retrospects, she can like anchor back to that

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<v Speaker 2>point in time. And I was thinking about anchor points

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<v Speaker 2>in my own brain of where I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>was truly learning and not just memorizing, because my high

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<v Speaker 2>school experience totally felt like a memory game. That like

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<v Speaker 2>I would go into class and be like, Oh, what

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<v Speaker 2>did you say last time? And then I could use

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<v Speaker 2>that information in the context of that teacher in that classroom,

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<v Speaker 2>but outside of the context of the teacher and the classroom,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, why is it relevant? I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>it because realistically, I felt like teachers that trained me

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<v Speaker 2>they made me feel like my learning was a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of them and not me. So like, don't talk because

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna make me feel really frustrated, or like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why you don't understand this yet, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know either, And so by the

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<v Speaker 2>time I ended high school, my fondest memories were just

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<v Speaker 2>like socializing as opposed to being like I really understand

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<v Speaker 2>this and this and this and this this. It's only

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<v Speaker 2>in retrospect where I'm like, oh, I totally understand why

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<v Speaker 2>I never answered essay questions. I get what you're saying now.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know how to structure an argument that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just based and I felt this, and so I said it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, where do you get the information from? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You told me.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like my brain's gone the opposite. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I was good at that. Now I'm just like

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<v Speaker 3>I feel this.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that I swear my real learning happened two pronged.

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<v Speaker 2>First prong reading fantasy books. I don't care what anybody

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<v Speaker 2>tells you. When you read a fantasy book, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do so much reconciling of what you understand to

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<v Speaker 2>be true in order to understand what you're reasing to

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<v Speaker 2>what you're reading to contextualize it. In your world, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>dragons don't exist, and therefore you could not become a

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<v Speaker 2>dragon trainer, and therefore all the insecurities that all the

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<v Speaker 2>insecurities that one would have about not being a dragon

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<v Speaker 2>trainer don't apply. But in the book that you're reading,

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<v Speaker 2>in order to truly conceptualize what the protagonist is going through,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to consider in this world there are dragons,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore there are dragon trainers, and there are rules

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<v Speaker 2>and customs about dragons and dragon trainers. It's a skill

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like people think doesn't apply in the

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<v Speaker 2>real world. Like in order to truly comprehend that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>lives a different life than you, you have to practice,

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<v Speaker 2>and people don't practice in their day to day because

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<v Speaker 2>I keep gathering people who affirm their current lifestyle. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I always found it so surprising when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger that people didn't have divorced parents. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>how is it possible? What did two parents do in

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<v Speaker 2>a household? I truly don't I can't comprehend because every

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<v Speaker 2>time I saw a single mom nailing it, just nailing it,

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<v Speaker 2>doing all the things, working mothering author. When I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a two parent family, why was the dad always bum?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry? Like every time, I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is it? Like? What is the additional thing a dad

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<v Speaker 2>does in a family dynamic? Didn't get it until I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up. I saw my own brother in his household.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, WHOA like you definitely dad, your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>You fully dad, like you rear, and you instill val

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<v Speaker 2>and you encourage in a way that is separate to

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<v Speaker 2>your wife but supports your family unit. I see it,

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<v Speaker 2>but without that context, my conception of a family is

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<v Speaker 2>very skewed by what I allowed myself to see. I

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<v Speaker 2>looked for information that validated what I thought to be true,

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<v Speaker 2>that mums were just killing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad's kind of bumps, I mean, some would argue, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>yet to see evidence to the contrary.

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<v Speaker 2>The second video essays, I don't know what people are

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<v Speaker 2>doing on the Internet. I was watching video essays on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube about everything about TV shows, about conspiracy videos, about

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<v Speaker 2>pop culture icons, and how every second thing you watch

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<v Speaker 2>was like likely just subliminal messaging. And I was twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>being like WHOA.

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<v Speaker 3>I was firmly on funny junk, only zero critical thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>just getting out of the real world and on to

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<v Speaker 3>have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So where did you learn?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, And someone say it shows at times I've

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<v Speaker 3>definitely had to take learning into my own hands. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because I definitely paid attention in school. But that's more

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<v Speaker 3>learning like facts and stuff like I've learned a lot

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<v Speaker 3>through reading, not fantasy, but like stories where they're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about someone who's life experience I don't have. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you can learn that through reading a book.

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<v Speaker 3>Airport etiquette, we've gone through it time and time again.

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<v Speaker 3>Mickey has brought to us a grab, or rather a

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok about the dos and don'ts of being at the airport. Mickey,

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<v Speaker 3>please play the tape.

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<v Speaker 5>The easiest way to sell if someone is a good

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<v Speaker 5>person in an airport is see where they put their

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<v Speaker 5>luggage when they get on the plane. If they put

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<v Speaker 5>their carry on luggage in the overhead compartment and they

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<v Speaker 5>put their personal item like their backpack or their purse

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<v Speaker 5>under their seat, they're a good person and they're like

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<v Speaker 5>aware of their surroundings. If they put their backpack or

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<v Speaker 5>their purse or like that little small item, if they

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<v Speaker 5>put that in the overhead compartment so that no one

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<v Speaker 5>else can put their carry on luggage on and they

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<v Speaker 5>have to check it and then they have to wait by

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<v Speaker 5>baggage claim to get their stuff. They are the worst

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<v Speaker 5>side person and they deserve a jail. Sense verb life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving America, is it not? Like I say, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that in Australia. We have to then check

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<v Speaker 1>it in. Yeah, but you know you do you do?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you?

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<v Speaker 2>If the overhead compartment is too full, then you will

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<v Speaker 2>have to your carry on gets put in the stowaway.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that happens way more in America. I reckon because

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<v Speaker 3>the flight that I talk in September there was an

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<v Speaker 3>actual issue with like people putting stuff above.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it happens all the time, you really, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on fourth flight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, for example, Quantus is more strict than Virgin

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<v Speaker 2>with it, so they advise you beforehand. Once you're waiting

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<v Speaker 2>at the gate, they say to you, here is your

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<v Speaker 2>time to check any carry ons that you don't need.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're on the plane, and we'll stow it away

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<v Speaker 2>for you. If you get onto the plane and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no space for your carry on, then it'll go onto

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<v Speaker 2>the next plane and you'll get it when it lands.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, Virgin is like bit more like a bit

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<v Speaker 2>loose with it. But to be honest, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good person bad person thing. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a frequent flyer versus non frequent flyer thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>The airport etiquette thing is just a macro conversation that

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<v Speaker 2>we use as permission to complain about general etiquette. So

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<v Speaker 2>in that context, you wish someone would have considered you

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<v Speaker 2>in the grand scheme of things. Because someone didn't consider

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<v Speaker 2>you or didn't consider the next person that or the

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<v Speaker 2>next person. Now other people are impacted negatively. It happens

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Babe's a high stress environment. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I think are we not used to like standing in

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<v Speaker 3>lines with other human beings?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Like when we're all standing in the line of the

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<v Speaker 3>airport and stuff people and it's kind of like everyone

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<v Speaker 3>kind of has to go through the same gate. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think people like that. Everyone, even if you're in business,

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<v Speaker 3>has to do the line thing. I think people don't

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<v Speaker 3>like that feeling of having to wait in line like

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<v Speaker 3>you're a kid, like I think the airport like triggers people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am important, I have business that sur vibe.

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