1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: But we just spoke to the Chief Minister about the 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: appointment of Martin Dole to the Northern Territory Police Commissioner position. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Now the police associations raise concerns about the process to 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: appoint mister Doll. Nathan Finn, the President, joining me in 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: the studio right now. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Good morning to your Finny. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: Good morning Katy, and good morning to your listeners. 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time. Now, Finny, you've been 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: really clear you respect Commissioner Doll and his capability to lead, 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: but you've said the appointment process completely lack transparency. What 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: message does that send do you think to rank and 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: file officers? 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: It gets the confused. We've just seen the inquiry come 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: down to the blow report, Katie, where obviously there's been 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: issues raised with the senior eqruitment within the Northern Territory 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Police Force. We congratulate obviously Martin Dolan being appointed as 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: the fifteenth commission of the Northern Territory Police Force. He's 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: respected long serving member across the force. But the appointment process, 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: as you said, or the lack of one, raises serious 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: concerns about the transparency, accountability and public trust in the 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: Northern Territory Police Force. 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean I sort of asked the chief about this earlier. 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: She said he's absolutely the best person for the job. 24 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: She doesn't want somebody from into state. I mean, what 25 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: do you say to that. 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: It's not about the Southern that's Katie. It's about what 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: happens if there's another person in the Northern Teritory Police 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: Force executive that wanted to put their hand up and 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: to be considered for the best. Obviously, Commissioner of Police, 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: they haven't had the opportunity. They've missed out on that opportunity, 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: and this is something the Senior Ecruitment the inquiry looked 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: at into it. But again we've done an inquiry for 33 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: the sake of an inquiry. We've a highlighted that the 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 3: mister Justice Blow didn't have the correct legislation to conduct 35 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: the inquiry under we give that advice at the earliest 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: possible opportunities were rejected by the government and now we've 37 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 3: seen an inquiry which really delivers nothing and changes nothing. 38 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: There's no line in the sand being drawn. Katy. It's 39 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: frustrating our members more and more that this type of 40 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: behavior gets to basically continue and not be addressed. 41 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: So, Finny, what are officers saying to you, because I've 42 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: got some officers saying to me, look, I'm really happy 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: that Martin Doll has been appointed to the police commissioner role. 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, I've always got there's always a mixed bag. 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: But what I also saying to you, Yeah. 46 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: There's some members that are happy. There's some members that 47 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: are frustrated as well. But there's members that are really 48 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: frustrated that we haven't actually addressed the whole situation about 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: the senior recruitment posts in the Northern Territory Police Force. 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm happy to work with mister Doll. I know mister Dole. 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: I've worked with him for the last seven months while 52 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: he's been the acting Commissioner. We have our points of disagreement, 53 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: we always will, but he also he's got a strong 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: focus on the members and making sure the members are 55 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: supported the best possible way they can. 56 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: What do you make of the timing. I mean, it 57 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: was just a couple of days after accepting the blow 58 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: inquiry recommendations. Do you think that that move undermines the 59 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: government's own commitments to reform and accountability? 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: It undermines the whole process, Caady, We've waited nearly seven 61 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: months for inquiry to be conducted that delivered no real 62 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 3: findings or no real changes to the Northern Territory Police 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: Force and how they do it. There's policies that need 64 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: to be written, there's recommendations that have been endorsed to 65 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: be progressed. They haven't been progressed. We're still seeing these 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: recruitment processes go through where there's speculation about how people 67 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: are geting reported. So there's direct information and direct evidence 68 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: suggested in that report that there was untoward things going 69 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: on in reason the senior recruitment within the organization. What 70 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: have they done to deal with that? What have they 71 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: done with the people that actually complicit with that in 72 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: the recruitment processes. We need to deal with that to 73 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: restore the faith that we have as police officers when 74 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: in the executive and also for the executive to have 75 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: that faith in what we do as police officers on 76 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 3: the road. 77 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: So at the moment, do you believe that rank and 78 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: file police officers are you know, are unhappy with the 79 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: way in which the government is managing you know what 80 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: they've said these recommendations obviously of the blow reporter, they 81 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: are unhappy with what's going on. 82 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: Definitely, Cattie and the majority of the people who have 83 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: contacted are unhappy with how it's played out. There's a 84 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: lot of people that have been affected by and there's 85 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: a lot of people have been promoted under this system 86 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: as well. But when there's identified failures within that recruitment 87 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: a process and they haven't been addressed and they keep 88 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: allowed to be continue, that's just basically endorsing what's been 89 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: done in the past to go ahead and just keep 90 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: doing what you're doing, and that's not something we want 91 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: to see. We want to make sure that all air 92 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: recruitment processes are well above board. And again with the 93 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: Commissioner's role, if they had to advertise a position and 94 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: mister Dole was the most meritorious candidate and he was appointed, 95 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: the speculation wouldn't be against mister Doll. I congratulate mister 96 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: Dole for his appointment as a position where he's been 97 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: offered a position as the Commissioner of Police. He'd be 98 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: stupid to reject that. 99 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Katie Finni, do you think that you know, taking all 100 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: of that into account what you've said to me this morning, 101 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: do you think that Commissioner Doll is going to be 102 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: able to work with officers to bring the force and 103 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: the community forward. You know, do you think he's going 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: to if there are all these concerns sort of floating around, 105 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: and if people are worried about the way in which 106 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: that appointment process happened and they feel as though, you know, 107 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: the blow report didn't go deep enough, do you think 108 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to bring the force forward? 109 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: I really hope so. And that's again going to be 110 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: played out about his leadership style, his leadership performance there. 111 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: I know a lot of the executive are upset about 112 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: what's going on in the past, and he's got the 113 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: role now to manage that executive and to work forward. 114 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: Do I believe that Alice Springs is the best possible 115 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: position for him, knowing that the rest of his police 116 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: force executive are based in Dalt. 117 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't believe so, But yeah, right, so do you 118 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: reckon he should be based here? 119 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: Again, that's a decision for government, a decision for himself 120 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: of how he's going to manage it. I'd much rather 121 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: have direct relationships with your other executive and how are 122 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: you going to manage it? And how are you going 123 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: to lead a police force? And to be working in 124 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: that same location. 125 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: So you reckon be better off based here'll. 126 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: Be better off a lot better. Again, that's a decision 127 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: for himself and the decision for government where they're going 128 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: to be based. I know it's obviously a political decision 129 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: to place him in Alice Springs, given what goes on 130 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: in Alice Springs every summer coming up. 131 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking it may be like, for the first 132 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: time something that's actually a good decision in the sense 133 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: that we've had such bad crime in Alice Springs, you know, 134 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: keeping him there, whether it would keep it real front 135 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: and center front of mind. 136 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: I'd like to say that the Commissioner of Police being 137 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: placed in a position in a certain location would have 138 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: an effect on that, but Katie, the reality is that 139 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: the members of the police force that do the job, 140 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: Dane and are I'm not going to see the commission 141 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: rolling around in a police fan arresting people, but they 142 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: do have that effect and do obviously attract different resources 143 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: to those locations as well. 144 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: Finny, why didn't you take part, Like why didn't the 145 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: association take part in the inquiry? If you're sort of 146 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: so worried about it not going deep enough and not 147 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: delving deeply enough into the concerns that have been raised, 148 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: why not take part's. 149 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: That's a question and the government's been quite critical of 150 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: the NTPA in respect to not making it obviously an 151 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: inquiry a review into the inquiry. We've got a lot 152 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: of members that we represent, Katie and we represent the 153 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: panel members that sat on these panels. We represent the 154 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: people that were successful, we represent the people that were 155 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: unsuccessful as well. It was clearly highlighted within the Blow 156 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: report the reasons why the NTPA would not provide obviously 157 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: a submission into the inquiry, and that's outlined by Justice 158 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: Blow himself and the understanding of why we didn't make it. 159 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: But again the political point scoring that's come across from 160 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: the government and also Minister Cahill on the week that 161 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: was on Yours having a crack at the NTPA because 162 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: it didn't make a submission to the inquiry. We assisted 163 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: a lot of members in relation to the evidence so 164 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: they provided to the inquiry. To be told that they 165 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: could investigate that was very upsetting for those members and 166 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: very concerning for the police force going forward. 167 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: I got to say at the moment there seems to 168 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: be a real rift between the Northern Territory Government and 169 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police Association. 170 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 2: Now that's not uncommon. 171 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean we very often unions don't particularly like governments 172 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: at different times, Like that's not unusual. But do you 173 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: think that there is a way that that can be 174 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: mended so that you guys can have a constructive dialogue. 175 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Caddie, if they stop canceling many is the 176 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: first time I seen in the Chief Miness for a 177 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: little bit this week walking out of the leaving out 178 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: of the studio, So it was good to have a 179 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: quick conversation with out there. 180 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: You were meant to meet with her last week. 181 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: I meant to it last week the day before. 182 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: The only know that because we wanted you on the 183 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: radio the same. 184 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: Time the day before the Commissioner was being announced. Again, 185 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: their conversations that could take place with us and they're 186 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: reasoning why they're making these decisions, so we can actually 187 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: beyond support of the government when making these decisions and 188 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: we can provide those concerns where it needs to be 189 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 3: provided before these decisions are made. 190 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: So you would like to sit down with the Chief 191 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: Minister who is also the Police Minister. You'd like to 192 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: sit down and have a constructive discussion with her. 193 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: Definitely, and that's regular, Katie. We've asked for it for 194 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: a long time. Again, the government keeps making their own 195 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: decisions based on whatever information they have or their senior 196 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: advises what decisions they're making. The political spin that's been 197 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: put on this about the NTPA not making sumission to 198 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: inquiry was absolutely was low. It was a very low 199 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: class and I'm not going to entertain that, Katie. I'm 200 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: there to provide honest, truthful feedback from our members to 201 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: the government, also to the executive, the Northern Territory Police 202 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: Force and to represent our members. And unfortunately the truth hurts, Katie. 203 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: And when the truth is being told about how our 204 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: members feel, they don't like that and they don't like 205 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: to be embarrassed by that. Our members are truthful. They're 206 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: doing the best possible job that they can do out 207 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: on the street, and they want to be supported by 208 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: the government to do that to fix their laur and 209 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: L portfolio, crime portfolio. 210 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: That they're Hey, Finny, just a quick one. 211 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: I know this is totally not un notice, but last 212 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: week I was talking to the Deputy Corrections Commissioner and 213 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: he said that the watch houses like that, We've got 214 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: a heap less prisoners in those watch houses at the moment. 215 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Just how are things going from the associations perspective. 216 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: Definitely, we've seen a reduction in the number of corrections 217 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: prisoners in our watchhouses. I believe we're down to fall 218 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: last week that was the last time I had a 219 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: discussion with our watchhouse here and in Darwen and believe 220 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: that the numbers have reduced to nearly nothing in all 221 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: of Springs as well. So it's a good result for 222 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: the police force and the stress and management of our 223 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: custody sections to make sure that keeps going forward, and 224 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: we know that's going to peak at certain points in time, 225 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: but we want to make sure that we have the 226 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: health and safety of our staff members as a priority 227 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: in those in Does it. 228 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: Make a big difference for you guys then or for 229 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: members then not having to, you know, to manage those 230 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: those watch houses as well in terms of the prisoners. 231 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. And it has that flow on effect as 232 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: well onto the road that where you know that the 233 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: facility is full, you making inquiries whether you can take 234 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: a person into that. It relieves that pressure as well 235 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: that we can go on policing and doing the role 236 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: that we need to do Katie, to make sure the 237 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: community is safe. 238 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan Finn, President of the Northern Territory Police Association, 239 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. You brushed me the last couple 240 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: of weeks, mate. I was thinking, oh, no, I'm getting 241 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: brushed like the Chief Finister is brushing you. 242 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: Definitely not, Katie. And been very busy times, and I've 243 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: been away and been very unwell unfortunately, and when you're 244 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: traveling at one hundred and operating one hundred and twenty 245 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: percent for so long, for so many times, you just 246 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: need some time to yourself and get out of the office. 247 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: And had a beautiful team looking after the office whiles away, 248 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: so they've done a great job. But back in the 249 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: role now and backfighting for what our members need in 250 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: the Northern Church of Police force and to make sure 251 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: that they're best supported. And I always have those conversations 252 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: no matter where I am. And yeah, you can always 253 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: tease me, don't wipe me up, Katie, you don't want 254 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: to get me started. 255 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, Finny, thank you for joining us back in the 256 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: studio and no doubt we'll talk to you again very soon. 257 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: Let's hope so thank you, thank you, thanks so much.