Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say
Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and
Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have
Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers
Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women.
Speaker 1: That is so fatch. Thank you, Happy Friday, everyone, Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another episode of Outspoken. We wanted to start
Speaker 1: today's episode with a really funny story about our dat Well.
Speaker 1: It all started when one of our og listeners shared
Speaker 1: an instant story of himself reciting our intro. Well, mime
Speaker 1: into the intro. Really, A few people have been doing
Speaker 1: that now and I really like it. Maybe it's going
Speaker 1: to be like a new TikTok joint. Anyway, I digress anyway,
Speaker 1: And so we re shared it and someone wrote in saying,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's so lovely. Is that your dad?
Speaker 1: It's so nice that he's supporting you in that way.
Speaker 1: This particularly cracked me up because last family dinner, we
Speaker 1: had a bit of a quiz with our dad because
Speaker 1: we always have this joke that he doesn't really know
Speaker 1: anything that's going on. In our lives, and we asked
Speaker 1: him what the name of our podcast was, and he
Speaker 1: actually couldn't answer it. So we decided this family dinner
Speaker 1: to hit record and see if he had done some
Speaker 1: research during the week and had found out what his
Speaker 1: daughter's podcast was called. So this is what he had
Speaker 1: to say, Dad, So what's the name of our podcast?
Speaker 1: He doesn't know? It starts with an oh, both. I
Speaker 1: think Dad's just one father of the year. They're being
Speaker 1: able to remember the name. Do you think Mum was
Speaker 1: like trying to mouth it to him and we weren't watching.
Speaker 1: I think that it's kind of good that mum and
Speaker 1: dad balance each other out because Mum is like our
Speaker 1: biggest supporter with stuff like this, and then you know,
Speaker 1: Dad keeps us grounded by not even knowing the name
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, it's pretty funny. We're talking about our dad.
Speaker 1: He has sent in a social dilemma. Actually, I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even know that we do this, but we
Speaker 1: have based a social dilemma on his behavior. So currently
Speaker 1: he is having a few disputes in his street and
Speaker 1: it seems like a very Today Tonight story. But fortunately
Speaker 1: that show's not around anymore. It has all started because
Speaker 1: one of the neighbors has decided to park their car
Speaker 1: out the front of our dad's house. And as a
Speaker 1: retired gentleman, this is his biggest concern in life at
Speaker 1: the moment. And can we just set the scene if
Speaker 1: anyone's in Adelaide and they follow shit Adelaide they recently
Speaker 1: put up this picture of a mister men book and
Speaker 1: they made it mister Mitcham, which is quite a nice
Speaker 1: suburb in Adelaide, and Dad is the spitting image of
Speaker 1: mister Mitchell. We'll have to put it up on the
Speaker 1: instera story. Yes, so mister Mitcham has a mustache, he
Speaker 1: also complains to the council a lot, and he is retired,
Speaker 1: so it literally ticks all the boxes for our dad.
Speaker 1: The only issue is he's holding prune juice where I
Speaker 1: think he should be holding cigarettes. If you done a coffee,
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people listening this could
Speaker 1: also be their father. Yeah, so let's get into the
Speaker 1: crux of what happened. As I said, his neighbor across
Speaker 1: the road has been parking his car in front of
Speaker 1: our father's house. So now it's quite funny because Dad
Speaker 1: literally has a garage to park in and SODA's mum,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really affect him, but it does affect
Speaker 1: him on a Wednesday night when we come over for death,
Speaker 1: so it affects him one day out of the week.
Speaker 1: So this all culminated in a rather explosive exchange the
Speaker 1: other night when Dad was out the front having a
Speaker 1: cigarette and his neighbor got out of the car out
Speaker 1: the front of Dad's house and Dad politely, apparently politely
Speaker 1: said excuse me, could you please stop parking in front
Speaker 1: of my house. Now, this isn't the first time Dad
Speaker 1: has asked the neighbor not to park in front of
Speaker 1: his house, apparently, so that the guy in question is
Speaker 1: a twenty year old guy and his girlfriend also parks
Speaker 1: in front of the house, so Dad has actually asked
Speaker 1: both if they can stop doing it. So it seems
Speaker 1: like they're kind of purposely doing and how to piss
Speaker 1: him off. So this neighbor apparently got in Dad's face
Speaker 1: and told him to get a life and that he
Speaker 1: will continue parking in front of his yard if he
Speaker 1: wishes to in front of his house. Well, no, he said,
Speaker 1: he's going to park there all the time now. But
Speaker 1: our Dad now purposely gets up very early in the
Speaker 1: morning and parks his car in that spot, and he
Speaker 1: said he's going to chalk out the spot so it's
Speaker 1: reserved for him. I actually thought there was going to
Speaker 1: be a punch up because Dad said this guy got
Speaker 1: well in his face. I think the F word was
Speaker 1: thrown back by our father. Just on Kate's point. Do
Speaker 1: you know what the funniest thing is It's obvious that
Speaker 1: it's Dad's car because his number plates are h fifty four. Well,
Speaker 1: the best part is Dad was telling everyone at family
Speaker 1: dinner last night, and all our boyfriends come to family
Speaker 1: dinner and he's like, boys, I let him know that
Speaker 1: you guys were coming around and we're gonna go knock
Speaker 1: on his door. Now, he was only joking because Dad
Speaker 1: actually told us that this guy's like six foot five.
Speaker 1: So I think Dad needs to back down. So really,
Speaker 1: this brings up the point. Do you think our dad
Speaker 1: is right in thinking that the neighbor shouldn't be parking
Speaker 1: consistently in front of his house? Should that spot be
Speaker 1: reserved for him and his visitors? See, I told Dad
Speaker 1: this last night. I think that park is free for
Speaker 1: anybody to park in of course, it's really annoying if
Speaker 1: someone continually parks in your spot if you don't actually
Speaker 1: have a car park in your house. Can I just
Speaker 1: say I think what dad was actually concerned about is
Speaker 1: the fact that someone parking at the front of the
Speaker 1: house could create a bottleneck situation, and apparently that's his issue. No,
Speaker 1: he said that it's hard for mum to back out
Speaker 1: of the driveway. So we're going to put it out
Speaker 1: to the community. Should your neighbor consistently park in front
Speaker 1: of your house? And also, has your dad ever done
Speaker 1: anything embarrassing like this? So I want to hear what
Speaker 1: other people's dads have done. Is Kayle here today not it?
Speaker 1: Klee's at home with the opal. I think Venus gave
Speaker 1: him the flu. Sky Whitley has sparked debate ever since
Speaker 1: giving birth to her second child last Friday. The former
Speaker 1: Big Brother contestant has taken her followers along every step
Speaker 1: of the way, culminating in a thirty seven minute birth
Speaker 1: log and name reveal on Thursday. So, if it's been
Speaker 1: such a wild ride for her followers, how did it
Speaker 1: all start? Well? Sky has just been so open with
Speaker 1: her followers from the get go. She went live on
Speaker 1: her Instagram story as soon as she went into labor,
Speaker 1: and she's also vlogged the whole experience, and it was
Speaker 1: really awkward to watch because at eleven PM she went
Speaker 1: into labor, and we quickly find out on the vlog
Speaker 1: and also through the life that Lockie will not be
Speaker 1: coming to the hospital with Sky. The tension was palpable
Speaker 1: in these vlogs. You could tell that she was just
Speaker 1: so over and I was kind of annoyed at him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, get off your ass and help your girlfriend.
Speaker 1: But what we quickly find out is it's not actually
Speaker 1: Lockie who's made the decision to stay. Sky doesn't want
Speaker 1: him to come, and that is because Sky reveals that
Speaker 1: Lockie is making her feel as though she is being
Speaker 1: extra dramatic about her reaction, and this made me feel
Speaker 1: quite sorry for Sky. I mean, yes, maybe on Lockey,
Speaker 1: in Locke's defense, he's thinking, oh, well, you're well enough
Speaker 1: to film this, or maybe you're putting it on a
Speaker 1: little bit, but this woman is in labor or I
Speaker 1: could see where Locke was coming from, because it did
Speaker 1: seem a bit performative to begin with, especially if you
Speaker 1: are choosing to vlog your birth but I could tell
Speaker 1: from someone who watches her vlogs a lot that she
Speaker 1: really was in a lot of pain. I do love
Speaker 1: that she started packing her bag when she was going
Speaker 1: in to labor, and the top of the priority list
Speaker 1: was bringing one of those fake Polaroid cameras along with it. Oh,
Speaker 1: what I don't get is haven't they been preparing for
Speaker 1: this arrival of their new baby for a while, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. You would, wouldn't you have a
Speaker 1: backup plan because she's obviously gone into labor late at
Speaker 1: night and they were kind of fussing about who was
Speaker 1: going to look after Forest. I feel like your second child,
Speaker 1: it's always a bit not as planned, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, oh, whatever, we'll grab the bag. Well,
Speaker 1: you're busy with the first child. So one thing that
Speaker 1: really stood out to me on this flog was the moaning.
Speaker 1: And it's quite funny because I was just watching it
Speaker 1: earlier and I felt a bit uncomfortable because I had
Speaker 1: it in fast forward and it sounded quite pornograb. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. I remember watching Sarah's Day's birth log when
Speaker 1: I was over in Bali and Brandon was literally like,
Speaker 1: what the hell, are you watching as a pawn? You know? Well,
Speaker 1: Fortunately for Sky, Lockie actually did end up coming to
Speaker 1: the hospital, so he acted as the cameraman of this vlog.
Speaker 1: He really did capture everything, and it was really interesting
Speaker 1: because as soon as we all at the hospital with them,
Speaker 1: Sky reveals that after speaking to the midwife, she has
Speaker 1: actually been in labor all day. So the midwife said, no,
Speaker 1: wonder you're in so much pain. You've actually had half
Speaker 1: of the labor already done at home. So she was
Speaker 1: well within a right to be act during dramatic wouldn't
Speaker 1: you feel like such a dick if you were Locky? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love how real and raw Skuy is in this vlog,
Speaker 1: Like she spoke about how she felt like she was
Speaker 1: gonna pooh her pants and piss herself. You also see
Speaker 1: her basically touching her for JJ trying to see how
Speaker 1: dilated she is. There's not a lot you don't see.
Speaker 1: I did say to you guys, I felt like a
Speaker 1: family video that kind of needed to be edited a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I mean, particularly, I don't think we
Speaker 1: need to see the nurse cutting the umbilica before. That
Speaker 1: just grossed me out. I think it was actually Locky
Speaker 1: cutting it. But yeah, that was really revolting. I'd have
Speaker 1: to look away. I have no stomach for that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. I think that thing that's really stood out
Speaker 1: to me about this pregnancy is as an influencer, she
Speaker 1: is really trying to capitalize on this milestone. But I
Speaker 1: also think she wants to keep have these moments captured
Speaker 1: to keep us memories too. I do think she's been
Speaker 1: really strategic with this whole pregnancy and birth. I mean,
Speaker 1: asking people to turn on their notifications to be alerted
Speaker 1: when she goes into labor. She's dragged the whole labor
Speaker 1: blog out for a week. She is a new mum though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but with the carrot at the end that she's going
Speaker 1: to release the name, well, it hasn't been a week.
Speaker 1: It's actually only been four days. So she has taken
Speaker 1: four days to reveal his name. And as we all
Speaker 1: now know, his name is Bear west War So this
Speaker 1: was revealed at the end of the YouTube video. And
Speaker 1: it's safe to say that followers were quite divided on
Speaker 1: this name. Look, I wasn't surprised. I knew it was
Speaker 1: going to be something unusual. I did think it would
Speaker 1: be on theme and let's be honest, bear on forest
Speaker 1: is a pretty big theme. I had to laugh. In
Speaker 1: our community group someone said does a bear shit in
Speaker 1: the forest? Like that was the call of the day. Well,
Speaker 1: I actually really liked when someone said when people trying
Speaker 1: to guess the name and someone said Gump Horris Scump. Well.
Speaker 1: In the YouTube video, she explained the reasoning behind the name.
Speaker 1: She said she really wanted to set the records drait
Speaker 1: on the fact that she was not inspired by the
Speaker 1: Kardashians and Kanye West. She said it was actually her
Speaker 1: first boyfriend in high school that had the last name Wes,
Speaker 1: and I find it weirder. Yeah, that's perfectly. That makes
Speaker 1: so much more sense. I prefer people thinking I'd copy
Speaker 1: the Kardashians and naming it after my ex. What do
Speaker 1: you guys think about that? It's particularly considering it was
Speaker 1: the ex's last name. It's kind of, you know, like
Speaker 1: Chloe Kardashian when she married Lamar Odin was Chloe Kardashian Odem.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like adding your ex's last name to
Speaker 1: your child. I don't like it at all. I'd be
Speaker 1: really pissed off if my partner was like, oh, actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: after my ex I want to call my baby this.
Speaker 1: What I find even worse is if you break his
Speaker 1: name down, it sounds like a direction. Yeah, Bear West,
Speaker 1: Bear West. Yeah, it's terrible. He should they should have
Speaker 1: gone for Wild. But at least there was no connection
Speaker 1: with the exper Northwest now sounds normal. That's of course
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian and Kanye West daughter. That sounds normal. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe Bear West will. But don't you think baar wild
Speaker 1: would also sound weird? Oh? They are all terrible names. Well,
Speaker 1: what did you guys think about Sky's decision to put
Speaker 1: it out to her followers to choose between the two names,
Speaker 1: because for me, it really seemed like, again a strategic
Speaker 1: social media decision because she didn't actually put a poll
Speaker 1: up on an Instagram story. Instead, she posted a photo
Speaker 1: and got people to comment, and on that photo she
Speaker 1: got the most comments she's really ever gotten. So to
Speaker 1: put it into context, the photo where she announced the
Speaker 1: arrival of Bear, which was that beautiful photo of her,
Speaker 1: only had around two thousand comments. However, they post about
Speaker 1: the middle name had over six thousand comments, so that
Speaker 1: would be really driving a lot of traffic and engagement
Speaker 1: to her. PA. Well, she's obviously incredibly clever. She's obviously
Speaker 1: thought about this for a while and thought, what's a
Speaker 1: great strategy to get greater engagement to my page, get
Speaker 1: more brand deals. Maybe she's thinking she's got two kids
Speaker 1: now to support. Maybe, or maybe she and Lockie are
Speaker 1: just having a legitimate fight and they've gone, let's put
Speaker 1: it on Instagram, because isn't that the worst thing when
Speaker 1: you are so set on a name and your partner's like, nah, well,
Speaker 1: just back to the name Bear. It's actually really interesting
Speaker 1: because it appears to be now a trend of people
Speaker 1: normalizing really aggressive animals, if that makes sense, because we're
Speaker 1: having cute animal though no, but we're having the rise
Speaker 1: of wolf and fox and now Bear, and it's really
Speaker 1: it's quite fascinating because Bear is actually quite a popular
Speaker 1: celebrity name. So Jamie Oliver was the first one. He
Speaker 1: used Bear as the middle name for his son Buddy.
Speaker 1: We have then had Alicia Silverstone call her son Bear Blue.
Speaker 1: Kate Winslet's son is also called Bear Blaze, and Liam
Speaker 1: Payne from One Direction, who I did forget a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, his son is also called Bear, and
Speaker 1: we have Bear from X on the beach. You've forgot Ale, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've forgot Oh fuck, I've forgotten ile again. Oh well,
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that about these aggressive animals because
Speaker 1: Reese's NaN's middle name is actually Swan and you don't
Speaker 1: hear a lot of swans around it. Him. No. I
Speaker 1: do feel for Bear though, because I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a really cute baby name. But like Reese's Nan, she
Speaker 1: doesn't like being called like Swan anymore, Like she gets
Speaker 1: called Swanny as a joke. Do you know what, I
Speaker 1: could see it being quite like a hot young guy's
Speaker 1: names like Bear from That's what I just said, Stephen Bear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Like, why do you think
Speaker 1: that the topic of baby names prompts so much unsolicited opinions? Well,
Speaker 1: for me, I feel like this is a bit of
Speaker 1: a branding exercise. I feel like these days with influencers,
Speaker 1: if you name them something exotic, you can really like
Speaker 1: look at Sarah's day calling her son Fox. She then
Speaker 1: launched a range of pajamas with foxes on it. It's
Speaker 1: very marketable. I mean, if if Sky had just called
Speaker 1: her son John, I don't think people would be talking
Speaker 1: about it. But again, it drives a lot of engagement.
Speaker 1: I've read this really interesting article about baby names and
Speaker 1: they interviewed professor Diane Ree from the University of Cambridge,
Speaker 1: and she said that names influence other people's impressions of
Speaker 1: us and can convey implicit messages that on the one
Speaker 1: hand we are clever, cultured, worthy of recognition and respect,
Speaker 1: and on the other hand that we are ignorant, uncultured
Speaker 1: and undeserving of recognition and respect. So I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of these unusual baby names somewhat fall into
Speaker 1: that category. That's why I think a lot of older
Speaker 1: people have issues with these names because they can't imagine
Speaker 1: a bear wear standing up in Parliament and being taken seriously.
Speaker 1: But they can probably imagine a bear west in like
Speaker 1: a low paying job or well, you could be right,
Speaker 1: But I think these days on the internet, everybody has
Speaker 1: an opinion. No one's going to agree on a child's
Speaker 1: name at all. Yeah, and a lot of people have
Speaker 1: had a lot of opinions about Sky this week, and
Speaker 1: as I spoke about I do think she has been
Speaker 1: very strategic and clever around creating engagement on her social
Speaker 1: media accounts. However, some of it has created backlash. Hey,
Speaker 1: but you make it sound so sinister, isn't it good?
Speaker 1: Because she is? That is her job. Her social media
Speaker 1: is a job. I'm not being sinister at all, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying, with all these extra eyeballs on, because she
Speaker 1: has created so much attention for herself this week around
Speaker 1: the birth of Bear, she has been copying a lot
Speaker 1: of criticism and I feel like she has been quite
Speaker 1: controversial with a few posts that she's made. So on
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, very early, she posted that her and Bear
Speaker 1: were struggling to get to sleep, so she posted a
Speaker 1: photo of herself rolling her eyes, and she spoke about
Speaker 1: in the caption, saying how there was another mother that
Speaker 1: she was sharing a room with keeping her awake, and
Speaker 1: her baby was crying and screaming and it was really,
Speaker 1: you know, not great for her. And so Sky actually
Speaker 1: copped a lot of criticism for this post, which ended
Speaker 1: up being deleted. Is it because she was mummy shaming?
Speaker 1: Is that what that was? This? Yeah, so people thought
Speaker 1: that it was sort of very mean to kind of
Speaker 1: call this woman out on a public platform who was
Speaker 1: quite vulnerable in this situation. But did she take a
Speaker 1: photo of the woman? How would anyone know it was her. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the woman could be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm next to Sky with lead and she could go
Speaker 1: look at it. I mean, Sky has got like six
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy eight thousand followers. I do think it
Speaker 1: wasn't right to be commenting on another mum who's just
Speaker 1: given birth. I'm in two minds about it because at
Speaker 1: the same time, Sky has also just given birth, She's
Speaker 1: had zero sleep. I could see myself getting very irritated. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Sophie. I am really in two
Speaker 1: minds about it because it does seem quite an ironic
Speaker 1: situation where we're criticizing one new mum for criticizing another
Speaker 1: new mum, And it is really important to consider the
Speaker 1: fact that Sky was recovering from birth and is experiencing
Speaker 1: a lot of hormonal changes, not to mention sleep deprivation.
Speaker 1: But it really did make me reflect back to when
Speaker 1: she had Forrest, her first child, and how much she
Speaker 1: was struggling, and I was surprised she wasn't more empathetic
Speaker 1: to this new mum. Well, what something else she copped
Speaker 1: a bit of heat for was her photo announcing the
Speaker 1: arrival of her son. So she shared a beautiful photo
Speaker 1: of herself with bear, but people seem to think that
Speaker 1: the photo promoted quite an unrealistic standard for an after
Speaker 1: birth shot because she was glam to the match. She's
Speaker 1: such amazing. I have to say, I hope I look
Speaker 1: like that after I give birth. Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: the issue that people think that that's how you should
Speaker 1: look after birth. I mean, her hair looked like it
Speaker 1: was beautifully done. I think she had a bit of
Speaker 1: makeup on. It looked like the photo had been touched up.
Speaker 1: I mean, my first reaction was, Wow, she looks good.
Speaker 1: But I really did feel for other mums who don't
Speaker 1: get that amazing photo of themselves. I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like there is a lot of pressure to get a
Speaker 1: great photo of yourself and your baby, like it's the
Speaker 1: first photo you're ever having together. Should we be putting
Speaker 1: pressure on mums to do I can tell you already
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look like absolute shit when I've just given
Speaker 1: birth to my future child. There will be no photos
Speaker 1: of me being taken whatsoever. That social media photo, maybe
Speaker 1: don't share it on social media. It did make me
Speaker 1: think back to when Courtney Kardashian, when all those years ago,
Speaker 1: she gave birth to Mason, and she allowed keeping up
Speaker 1: with the Kardashians to film it, and she was like
Speaker 1: putting on fake ten and giving herself a shave beforehand.
Speaker 1: I think we've also got to remember with Sky, she
Speaker 1: is a very extra and glamorous person, so the photo
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me. That being said, it would be really
Speaker 1: great to see some influences being a little bit more
Speaker 1: real with the imagery they share, because I think we're
Speaker 1: also sick of this perfect mum impression that people get
Speaker 1: out well. Another controversy that has surrounded Sky this week
Speaker 1: is also her decision to promote a weight loss program.
Speaker 1: So on Wednesday, Sky shared a photo of herself in
Speaker 1: leggings and a crop top with the caption, my tummy
Speaker 1: has gone down so fast just from healthy eating. If
Speaker 1: you're interested in checking it out, I'll leave a swipe
Speaker 1: up link. What did you guys think about this? God,
Speaker 1: I think it's so dangerous to be promoting weight loss
Speaker 1: right after you've given birth. I mean, I'm sorry your
Speaker 1: stomach is going down because your baby is no longer
Speaker 1: in your stomach. I'm just so sick of this message
Speaker 1: of how quickly women have to bounce back after pregnancy,
Speaker 1: just enjoy spending time with your child. I know that
Speaker 1: I'm not a mum, so I don't understand it completely,
Speaker 1: But to me, I just think there's so much pressure
Speaker 1: on women these days. Yeah, and I'm all forgiving Sky
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt with the stories she shared
Speaker 1: on the night of giving birth. However, I feel very
Speaker 1: differently about this because to me, it's quite clear that
Speaker 1: she made a decision before she actually gave birth to
Speaker 1: be a part of promoting these weight loss guys, because
Speaker 1: she actually spoke about them in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: before the birth. So for me, this just seemed very
Speaker 1: immoral to be promoting to vulnerable mums that you need
Speaker 1: to bounce back like she is. And I did find
Speaker 1: it disturbing because I feel like Sky was very sick
Speaker 1: fixated on her pre baby body during her pregnancy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she did a lot of throwback photos. This post was
Speaker 1: actually very reminiscent of Emily Radakowski when she was showing
Speaker 1: her followers how flat her stomach was a couple of
Speaker 1: days after giving birth. And I just can't even begin
Speaker 1: to imagine how you would feel as a mum who
Speaker 1: has just given birth seeing this type of imagery because
Speaker 1: it's yet again telling you, oh, you're not good enough.
Speaker 1: I feel like weight loss should be the last thing
Speaker 1: new mums are thinking about. My friend say that I'd
Speaker 1: like mister Barton in that photo. Ida. On Tuesday, celeb
Speaker 1: Spelchek created a frenzy when she shared a post of
Speaker 1: Mary kay Olson flanked police. The post had no caption
Speaker 1: and the comments were turned off, but it's still garnered
Speaker 1: over ten thousand likes. What does this mean? What did
Speaker 1: you guys think? Well? I believe it may be a
Speaker 1: clue that she is going to be focusing on old
Speaker 1: pop culture moments, because if you take a look, there
Speaker 1: is also a highlight up on her page which is
Speaker 1: called the os pop Culture Highlights, and they are, of course,
Speaker 1: when she went back through about ten years of nostalgic
Speaker 1: memories about all these pop culture moments. Some people are
Speaker 1: actually saying that this is in response to Shameless's Scandal
Speaker 1: podcast where they're going back and looking at pop culture moments,
Speaker 1: and that she might be a bit pissed off that
Speaker 1: they've taken her idea. Really, I don't think that's the case. Oh,
Speaker 1: she always uses shots of celebrities from twenty ten, that
Speaker 1: kind of era, and it's obviously a picture of Mary
Speaker 1: Kate being flanked by police. I think she's saying she's
Speaker 1: just out of trouble, like she's coming back, like this
Speaker 1: is her big comeback. She also shared a photo on
Speaker 1: Wednesday of M and M again with no caption. The
Speaker 1: comments turned off, and it's got some people in our
Speaker 1: community hypothesizing, and I kind of liked some of their ideas.
Speaker 1: So someone wrote that potentially she shared a picture of
Speaker 1: the Olsen Twins because it could be in reference to
Speaker 1: that amazing movie New York Minute, saying that you know, celeb'
Speaker 1: spellcheck is going to be back in a brief span
Speaker 1: of times in a New York Minute. And then someone
Speaker 1: else pointed out that Eminem took a hiatus, and also
Speaker 1: there's that amazing song guess Who's back? Now? That's I mean.
Speaker 1: I posted that on our Instagram story when I saw
Speaker 1: her initial post, because that's all I could think about.
Speaker 1: So I think she's back. She's a bloody genius drip
Speaker 1: feeding us all these clues. I'm living for it. I
Speaker 1: suppose we just need to think about what capacity she's
Speaker 1: actually back in and I think her turning off the
Speaker 1: comments points to potentially maybe watering the page down in
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, just pointing out spelling errors or
Speaker 1: talking about nostalgia. I think she's trying to cover her
Speaker 1: ass by turning the comments off. Yeah, moving on, and
Speaker 1: baby Watch continues for Steph Claire Smith, who at the
Speaker 1: time of recording is forty weeks and three days pregnant.
Speaker 1: So Steph has taken a bit of a hiatus from
Speaker 1: social media for the past couple of days, but was
Speaker 1: back on Thursday to promote Kick's new program. Kate, what
Speaker 1: is this new program about? Well, Steph and Kick were
Speaker 1: teasing it a little bit because this was on the
Speaker 1: weekend where everyone was sort of watching to see if
Speaker 1: she was going to give birth, and they were saying
Speaker 1: that something exciting is coming, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, oh my gosh, is Laura Henshaw also pregnant? However,
Speaker 1: that is not the case. They are releasing a new
Speaker 1: program called Kick Bump. So the program has been created
Speaker 1: for pregnant women as well as new mums, and it
Speaker 1: is backed by Steph's personal physio Ash from Women's Life Physio,
Speaker 1: And there were a lot of mums out there that
Speaker 1: were really excited by the program, and I thought this
Speaker 1: was a perfect marketing opportunity, particularly to release it in
Speaker 1: the week that everyone is watching Steph to find out
Speaker 1: if she has given birth. I love it, Kate, because
Speaker 1: you're always sold on everything that Steph Claire Smith does,
Speaker 1: but just playing devil's advocate. What makes this different to
Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley promoting Await? Well, personally for someone who has
Speaker 1: used the program before, it really is backed by professionals,
Speaker 1: and I feel the fact that STEP's personal physio is
Speaker 1: involved in the program and ensuring that it is safe
Speaker 1: for pregnant women. Well, I'm sorry, but it is a
Speaker 1: safe program for women to use. It's not focused on
Speaker 1: weight loss. It's focused on moving your body in a
Speaker 1: safe way. Well, they do say that this program is
Speaker 1: meant to empower women and meant to get them back
Speaker 1: moving their bodies. It doesn't seem to focus on extreme
Speaker 1: weight losses. And it's definitely not about oh look this
Speaker 1: is my postpart and body. It's very much, as you said,
Speaker 1: moving your body feeling good again. Well, I suppose also
Speaker 1: it's marketed at doing something for yourself. It's not all
Speaker 1: based on looks. It will be really interesting to see
Speaker 1: how Steph does handle showing off her body after the
Speaker 1: baby arrives. I don't know. I think you think I
Speaker 1: may can really be mistave, don't you? Yeah? I do.
Speaker 1: Let's get into the reality wrap and the trailer for
Speaker 1: the new series of The Hills, New Beginnings has dropped
Speaker 1: and it looks sense I am so excited about this.
Speaker 1: I saw it shared on Facebook that it was out
Speaker 1: in May, and I had to text Reese's mum because
Speaker 1: she is addicted to this show. Do you know what
Speaker 1: it's going to be on? Like, do we get at
Speaker 1: the same time as the US? Well, it's May twelfth
Speaker 1: that it comes out, and so season two we'll see
Speaker 1: the cast reunite following the easing of COVID restrictions in California,
Speaker 1: and all the favorites are back from the first series,
Speaker 1: minus Mischa Barton. Let's be honest, she wasn't really bringing
Speaker 1: that much. I'm glad we saw a little bit of her,
Speaker 1: but I'm really keen for the fact that Kristin Cavalier
Speaker 1: is back. Well. She definitely is the huge draw card
Speaker 1: for this series. We saw her return a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago when she replaced Lauren when, of course Lauren
Speaker 1: moved on and got married and everything else and was
Speaker 1: too big for the show to be honest though I
Speaker 1: hated that. I feel like the hills went downhill when
Speaker 1: no pun intended when Kristen returned, because Lauren was so
Speaker 1: much better. Yeah, but it was very fake by the
Speaker 1: time Kristen returned. But Kristen's returning after she's just split
Speaker 1: from her husband, Jay Cutler, so it's going to be
Speaker 1: really interesting to see. Is Kristin going to be dating
Speaker 1: new Do you think she'll hook up with Brody? Because
Speaker 1: Brodie's also split from his wife who was also on
Speaker 1: the show, Caitlyn Carter, So she's actually famous for hooking
Speaker 1: up with Miley Cyrus after she announced her split from
Speaker 1: Liam Hemsworth. I don't know if you guys remember this,
Speaker 1: but Brody took a swipe at Caitlyn online. So Brandon Lee,
Speaker 1: who is the son of Pamela Anderson and another cast
Speaker 1: mate on The Heels, he shared the photo of Miley
Speaker 1: and Caitlyn kissing, and Brody wrote under the post, watch
Speaker 1: out picks of Liam and I holding hands on the
Speaker 1: beach coming soon, and Miley responded, go take a nap
Speaker 1: in your truck and cool off hashtag hot girl Summer. Look,
Speaker 1: I actually like that exchange. I don't think it's so
Speaker 1: much him taking a swipe. I think they're all taking
Speaker 1: the piece out of it. Yeah. I do love that
Speaker 1: Miley tags at the hashtag hot girl Summer. That's just
Speaker 1: bloody hilarious. Well, what's really interesting is Spencer Pratt's sister, Stephanie,
Speaker 1: has hit out at Caitlyn, implying she was only using
Speaker 1: Brody for his fame. She told Cosmopolitan, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say she's a clout chaser, but she had ninety
Speaker 1: five followers before she started dating Brody then became an influencer.
Speaker 1: That's a bit rich coming from Stephanie Pratt, who's only
Speaker 1: on the show because her brother is Spencer and then
Speaker 1: went on Made in Chelsea. She's been chasing a lot
Speaker 1: of claim so the whole cast is chasing clown on
Speaker 1: that show. Well, I do actually love the inclusion of
Speaker 1: Stephanie and Spencer because they always bring so much drama
Speaker 1: to the Hills. Spencer also told Cosmo that Caitlyn and
Speaker 1: Brody are pathological liars, and he claimed that both had
Speaker 1: pretended to be married for twelve episodes of The Hills
Speaker 1: when they were merely boyfriend and girlfriend who slept with
Speaker 1: other people. I love that he is still shopping these
Speaker 1: stories around to the media because we will, of course
Speaker 1: remember on the second series of The Hills when he
Speaker 1: shopped around Lauren and Jason's supposed sex, like he stirred
Speaker 1: that whole thing. What love. I love that you actually
Speaker 1: think that Spencer's acting independently. Don't you think the MTV
Speaker 1: are like pushing his interviews and creating a bit I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: to be fair, the whole open relationship that Brody and
Speaker 1: Caitlyn has was a storyline in the first series very manufactured.
Speaker 1: I mean, I actually do think Spencer and Heidi were
Speaker 1: causing shit with the sex tape, But I think this
Speaker 1: is all very manufactured, particularly because they're not even friends anymore.
Speaker 1: They literally like bring them together and be like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys haven't seen each other for ten years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it is actually fake what
Speaker 1: Spencer is saying, because it's come out that Brody and
Speaker 1: Caitlin were never actually legally married. But I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's fake, but I'm saying they're spinning the drama in
Speaker 1: the media to create hype over The Hills, and I'm
Speaker 1: living for it. I'm just saying. Well. Another interesting point
Speaker 1: of the trailer was it showed Audrina saying that she
Speaker 1: and Brody had shared a kiss. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think about that? Do you think they'd be a good couple.
Speaker 1: Look For someone who has watched all of the series
Speaker 1: of The Hills recently, there was obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: sexual tension between Brody and Audrina. I do feel like
Speaker 1: they're just trying to rehash these relationships over and over again,
Speaker 1: particularly because they brought Justin Bobby back in series one.
Speaker 1: If he's coming back again for serious tar, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's clearly going to rekindle some bullshit with Christie. It's
Speaker 1: just so manufied. Actually, do you guys know how old
Speaker 1: Justin Bobby is. I'm guessing thirty five? Thirty five? He's
Speaker 1: thirty nine? Real? Well? Yeah, And in the trailer he's
Speaker 1: like to his dad, Oh, I'm finally ready to start
Speaker 1: talking about settling down with a wife and a child,
Speaker 1: like you're thirty nine. I actually love the fact that
Speaker 1: we are following people in their thirties lives because I
Speaker 1: am so over this whole discussion, this whole narrative that
Speaker 1: your life ends at thirty. I'm sorry, it begins at
Speaker 1: thirty every one, very much so. Now moving on, a
Speaker 1: thirty five year old Perth twins Anna and Lucy d
Speaker 1: Chenk are set to start in a US reality show
Speaker 1: called Extreme Sisters. Now, for those who haven't heard about
Speaker 1: Anna and Lucy, they're the sisters who are well known
Speaker 1: for sharing a really close bond, so much so that
Speaker 1: they've each spent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars on
Speaker 1: matching plastic surgery. They also share a boyfriend. Just disgusting.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, So they've been in this joint relationship for
Speaker 1: the last ten years and they so wrong, I know.
Speaker 1: And they said if it was legal, they would both
Speaker 1: marry him. So I know this sounds weird, But how
Speaker 1: do you I think we'd go sharing a boyfriend. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that would go very well at all.
Speaker 1: I think we have shared on this podcast before that
Speaker 1: we did have a crush on the same guy back
Speaker 1: when we were twenty and that was a really big
Speaker 1: learning curve for us, and I think that we would
Speaker 1: never make that mistake again. Like, the whole thing is weird.
Speaker 1: Can I just put it out we never like nothing
Speaker 1: ever happened though. No, no, this was an unrequired crush.
Speaker 1: I just want to put it out there because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of weird twin documentaries out there that paint
Speaker 1: all twins to be you know, talk in the same
Speaker 1: you know, the same sentences, all do the same jobs.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't be away from me. He was
Speaker 1: saying this while we're all talking on a podcast and
Speaker 1: interrupting each other. Journalist. No, but I'm just saying, like this,
Speaker 1: this narrative about them being twins being the same person
Speaker 1: is so wrong, and it makes me feel sick to
Speaker 1: my stomach seeing these documentaries, you know what, It makes
Speaker 1: me feel really uncomfortable. Because Reesa's family had watched Australian
Speaker 1: Story and there were these twins on there that all
Speaker 1: work at a bird place and they called themselves the twinies,
Speaker 1: and they talked in unison and they shared like bunk beds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it really show with that. Well, these sisters, the persisters,
Speaker 1: they said that they actually suffer from separation anxiety if
Speaker 1: they're apart, and so they actually they measure out the
Speaker 1: same amount of food to ensure they're eating the exact
Speaker 1: same calories. And they also said that they go to
Speaker 1: the toilet with each other and they shower together. Can
Speaker 1: I just say, who is this sick individual that is
Speaker 1: going out with both of them? Because there is something
Speaker 1: so he's going to be in the show, so they
Speaker 1: actually this show is going to be sensation. It's going
Speaker 1: to detail how this relationship works. Do you know what,
Speaker 1: I more actually judge the twins in this situation, because
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of guys out there
Speaker 1: that may be into this scenario. But the girls about
Speaker 1: me sharing a boyfriend with you and God knows what
Speaker 1: goes on behind closed doors in this situation actually makes
Speaker 1: me feel physically ill. There's another set of twins in
Speaker 1: this Extreme Sisters show and their names are Brittany and Brianna,
Speaker 1: and they're from the US and they've married twin brothers,
Speaker 1: Jeremy and Josh. Was quite cute. So the sisters now
Speaker 1: have the same married name and they live in the
Speaker 1: same house. But they're quick to tell people that they
Speaker 1: don't share a bed like all four of them, and
Speaker 1: they don't swap partners. Do you know what, I love
Speaker 1: some of these questions that you get when you are
Speaker 1: a multiple birthday. Oh does your partner ever get you
Speaker 1: mixed up? Well? I bloody hope not. Can I just say,
Speaker 1: where was our invite to be on this show? I
Speaker 1: don't know, like a bit hurt. I'm not hurt. They
Speaker 1: only choosing people that are extremely weird. I don't think
Speaker 1: these last two are extremely weird though. I think that
Speaker 1: they've just happened to meet twin brothers. It's married twin
Speaker 1: brothers and live in the same house. Oh, I thought
Speaker 1: they live next door. Like I thought there was a
Speaker 1: cute situation of like matching house and they had it
Speaker 1: and they got married on the same day in a
Speaker 1: joint wedding. Oh that happened on Maths once. I think
Speaker 1: that's quite cute. Save on the bill. Yeah, actually Dad
Speaker 1: would love that they did. They wear identical dresses. I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think you have to watch the show.
Speaker 1: Why are we just saying that the twin women are weird?
Speaker 1: The twin boys are obviously weird as well. Well. It's
Speaker 1: called extreme sisters, So we're focusing on the women in
Speaker 1: the story. Yea, If anyone's got any twin or trip
Speaker 1: LOOKQ Maye we've got to start a thread. Maybe we've
Speaker 1: going to debunk some of this weird shit that's being
Speaker 1: thrown out at the moment of this show. I'll put
Speaker 1: it out there. We do not feel each other's pain.
Speaker 1: That's a common one that we we do not share
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. I think that would be one of the
Speaker 1: fun which I spoke at the same time say that
Speaker 1: at the same time. It's such a weird, freaky trip moment.
Speaker 1: So I need to go to the toilet, soill you
Speaker 1: guys come to toilet with me? No, well, I think on
Speaker 1: that note, that's all we've got time for today. Thank
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