WEBVTT - ROB FAHNHAM - THE TRAITORS AUSTRALIA

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week.

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<v Speaker 2>They are yetay, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. As

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned yesterday, we are slightly out of order this week

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<v Speaker 2>because I have so many of these Traders Australia conversations

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<v Speaker 2>coming through, so I just want to do some quick

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<v Speaker 2>housekeeping on that. So today we have the Rob Farnham Chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow we're going to do the movie review podcast with Bros.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on Sunday I'm doing a double Traders episode

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<v Speaker 2>with Gamble and Dicko. So Gamble and Dicko were available

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<v Speaker 2>later in the week, so that's kind of why we're

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit jumbled. But today Rob is here and

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<v Speaker 2>this one turned into a bit of an unexpected reunion

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Rob and I actually knew each other as kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and we hadn't seen each other in maybe thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>and within the first few minutes we found ourselves reminiscing

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<v Speaker 2>about riding motorcycles around near him South before eventually remembering

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<v Speaker 2>that we're actually here to talk about the Traders. So

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, guys, there's a lot to unpack. Rob tells

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<v Speaker 2>me why after years of turning down reality television. This

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<v Speaker 2>final was the show that got a yes, and weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing up as John Farnham's son gave him a secret

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<v Speaker 2>advantage when it came to working out who was being

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<v Speaker 2>genuine with him and who was being friends with him

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<v Speaker 2>with an ulterior motive. We get into his relationship with Dicko,

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<v Speaker 2>which goes back much further than viewers might even realize.

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<v Speaker 2>What was really happening inside the infamous LSD alliance and

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<v Speaker 2>why the version of Rob's game we saw on television

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<v Speaker 2>was actually different to the relationships that he was building

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<v Speaker 2>inside the manner. We also talk about Kirby. Rob had

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<v Speaker 2>his suspicions very early on with Kirby, so we'll find

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<v Speaker 2>out what happened there and just how much harder it

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<v Speaker 2>is to spot a trader when you're actually inside the

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<v Speaker 2>game compared to screaming their name at your television from

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<v Speaker 2>your couch. Rob also reveals some fascinating context about a

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<v Speaker 2>banishment that seemingly came out of nowhere, and explains just

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<v Speaker 2>how much gameplay and conversation never makes it to the

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<v Speaker 2>final edit. Then we look at what's next for Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>Could the traders convince Rob to do more reality television?

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<v Speaker 2>Could we see him returning to acting, and what did

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<v Speaker 2>John and Jill Farnham actually make of watching their son

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<v Speaker 2>attempting to navigate this completely ridiculous game. There is some

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<v Speaker 2>really lovely moments in this chat, and after more than

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<v Speaker 2>three decades, it was genuinely great to catch up. So

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<v Speaker 2>here it is, guys, Rob Farnham on TV reload. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you Rob? Are you well?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Thank you Ben, thank you for having men.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I don't know if you remember this, but

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<v Speaker 2>we hung out a fair when we were kids. Oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember spending any time in near him? In

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<v Speaker 2>near him South?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So my dad was so weird, but my dad was

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<v Speaker 2>with Denise Drysdale, and so we used to Well, your

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<v Speaker 2>place was not far from Denise's house, and we had

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<v Speaker 2>these motorcycles and I crashed the motorcycle I had, so

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<v Speaker 2>you a couple of times picked me up from Denise's

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<v Speaker 2>place on your motorcycle because I didn't have one, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'd ride around the paddocks in in near them.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually I remember that. That's bizarre. How you going?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm good. They're like thirty years later, I have

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<v Speaker 2>not seen you. Yeah, in a very very long time

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<v Speaker 2>that we were children. I think I was like twelve

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<v Speaker 2>or thirteen, I don't know, is that crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need to talk about the Traders. I love

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<v Speaker 2>this show, and I think you were such a great addition.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, you know you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV person. What were you doing there?

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<v Speaker 1>What was I doing? I thought that to myself every day,

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<v Speaker 1>so I like to challenge myself. And I'd seen the

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<v Speaker 1>show a couple of times, or a couple of seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, the US and the UK one, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was already a fan of the premise and how

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<v Speaker 1>it all worked. I thought it was very funny. I

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<v Speaker 1>liked that it wasn't contrived, and producers weren't talking in

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<v Speaker 1>people's year or it didn't look like that. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a bit more of a socials experiment, and

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out that that's how it was. So when

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity came along and I was asked, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>looked at my phone and I said to my wife Mel,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like Traders, and we both just instantly both said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it. I knew it was going to be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was going to meet some people that

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't necessarily meet unless I did something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I like putting myself in in

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<v Speaker 1>situations where I'm a bit of a fish out of

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<v Speaker 1>water and I'm no stranger to performing and being on

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<v Speaker 1>TV and around celebrities and all that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, it was a bit of an easy yes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of why I was just like, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>But had you been asked to do reality television before?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm assuming that you have. I mean, all

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<v Speaker 2>of these shows would have wanted you over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you maybe tell me some of the ones you've

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<v Speaker 2>turned down?

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go into too much detail, but there has

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<v Speaker 1>been a couple over the years that have and I've

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<v Speaker 1>said no to them, and you know, they stopped asking

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<v Speaker 1>after a while because they were just getting no's. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not something that I ever ever wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't even watch reality TV. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the only reality TV show I watched every now and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's probably Kardashians. But don't tell anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>So picturing you and Mel sitting in the Northern rivers

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<v Speaker 2>watching Kardashian and it sounds pretty fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob well, we enjoy it, and you know, obviously Qcum

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<v Speaker 1>Girl and the whole thing. So yeah, you know we

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<v Speaker 1>watched that and every now and then that's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a guilty pleasure. It's a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, what I thought was really interesting was that Ian

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<v Speaker 2>Dixon made this connection with you pretty quickly. I love Dicko,

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<v Speaker 2>So if I was you, I would have been pelling

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<v Speaker 2>up with him as well. But I just he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of was like, you know, we kind of know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>How much did you know of Ian Dixon.

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<v Speaker 1>I've known Dicko since I was about Wow. So he

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<v Speaker 1>worked for a record label that my old boy was

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<v Speaker 1>Wounds and then for like decades, so I knew him

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<v Speaker 1>very very well. Wow. Yeah. So and we'd hung out

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times over the over the years as adults and

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<v Speaker 1>you know three the Australian ilier and so I knew

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<v Speaker 1>him really really really really really well. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just an easy connection. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know he was going to be there. I was

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<v Speaker 1>happy that he was because, you know, being my first

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<v Speaker 1>time into a reality TV show, it was nice to

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<v Speaker 1>have someone that could almost ground me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at the beginning, it was very much like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've got someone that I know I can trust,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of him that person being a trader, he would

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<v Speaker 1>never have murdered me, and vice versa, well to a point,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I might have killed him if I was a trader.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But he I trusted him and I

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<v Speaker 1>love him. He's an amazing human. He's extremely articulate, very

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<v Speaker 1>very intelligent. And you know, some people hate him and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, and some people really really like him

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<v Speaker 1>and are drawn to him. And he's a very good

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<v Speaker 1>public speaker. He does command a room, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he's known for. You know, he's known for doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why, you know, when when he proposed the

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<v Speaker 1>LSD connection, of course I was going to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to say no on day one

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know anyone, so, you know, and lucky

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<v Speaker 1>for him, he had me and cost him up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these two connections. So he got pretty lucky with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then slowly we started to build around it with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Josh Luke. Then he went a little I

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<v Speaker 1>feel he went a little too far by the secrecy

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<v Speaker 1>in LSD had gone. You know, it was just he

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<v Speaker 1>was just whoever was sitting next to he'd invite into

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<v Speaker 1>the gang.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was recruiting way too many people. What was

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<v Speaker 2>going on with that?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, there was a couple of times that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't shown on Tiva. Rahman put the brakes, like stop

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<v Speaker 1>inviting people like Kirby. You just what you invited Kirby, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's a traderr And so at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>the block voting, and I know it's controversial, but to

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<v Speaker 1>me that made sense. And I was went in to

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<v Speaker 1>the game thinking I don't need to make friends with anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to be emotionally detached, and but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not like that, you know. And after a few votes

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<v Speaker 1>voting the wrong people out because I figured we'd at

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<v Speaker 1>least get one, you know, in a block vote, like

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<v Speaker 1>randomly get one, And that was when I started really going, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a bit shit's going to be pair shaped here.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to sort of steer the ship in a

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<v Speaker 1>different direction. And yeah, just it just panned out how

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<v Speaker 1>panned out, unfortunately. But yeah, I mean I love Dicko.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very polarizing to people that just meet him as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so I understand why he got voted out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, I'm shocked

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<v Speaker 2>that they didn't make him a trader because it just obvious,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but it was like born to be a trader.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think, this is my theory, is that Dicko thought,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I'm not a trader at the start, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely getting recruited. I actually think in some way

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<v Speaker 2>some of his LSD was a audition to the traders

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<v Speaker 2>that were obviously in full function to be like, hey.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes a lot of sense. And I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>of it like that. So that is a super good point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that's what another player is doing

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, you know, in that last episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really really good point. I never looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. But yeah, it was just an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>way to play. But yeah, it's just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just got a little bit. It just got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit old towards the end. And yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, come on, man, we need to we need

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<v Speaker 1>to start actually voting for hunches and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why a few of us went rogue a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times, and Hussemer went and there was things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, in the last day, it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to vote for Reese because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think Reese was a trader, you know, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>where the block vote was potentially going, and I could

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<v Speaker 1>have saved I could have saved Dicker, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to lose another faithfulm particularly Reese. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of I felt bad because I could have

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<v Speaker 1>saved Kicker. Because Chrissy and Dicko, I believe there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a personality clash a little bit. Christy

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<v Speaker 1>will deny that, and I love you, Chrissy, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching all the love, I do feel like there was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the old white man complex being

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<v Speaker 1>the boss, which you know, there are elements of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I will admit that. So maybe that that was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like, you know, cheer down the patriarchy kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, but it was what it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And Dicko left, and once that happened, I was like, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm next. I'm just thankful I got murdered and not

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<v Speaker 1>voted out. I think standing there at the round table

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<v Speaker 1>getting voted out would have been would have been pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a tough way and you talk to I've

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<v Speaker 2>spoken to people all over the world. I've spoken to

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<v Speaker 2>people who played the American English ones, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the banishment is hard. Do you know what I

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<v Speaker 2>think is fantastic about the decision to pick you is

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<v Speaker 2>I think if anyone knows you, you've grown up with

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<v Speaker 2>very famous parents, like both your mum and dad are

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<v Speaker 2>so well known, and particularly your father. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you grew up with people and I saw this

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<v Speaker 2>with Pete Robb with Denise being very famous, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>through the eighties in nineties, is that as a child

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<v Speaker 2>you pick up pretty quickly who wants to be friends

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<v Speaker 2>with you for real reasons and who's being very disingenuous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it is the lifestyle of a celebrity child.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, do you think that am I right by

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<v Speaker 2>saying that you're a good pick to bottle show for

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<v Speaker 2>that reason?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm a good pick for the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are right in the respect of what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said. You know, I definitely I can tell when

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<v Speaker 1>people are you know, when they're asking. Growing up, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just tell straight away, you know someone actually is

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<v Speaker 1>interested and wants to know stuff, or if they're being

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<v Speaker 1>a smart ass, or if they're trying to take the

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<v Speaker 1>piers or whatever. So you pick it up pick up

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<v Speaker 1>on it pretty quickly. And I did think going into

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<v Speaker 1>the show that that was going to be my superpower.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone was very well pretty good at either high

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<v Speaker 1>you know high, and half the people didn't know who

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<v Speaker 1>my old boy was. Like a lot of the younger people,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm forty four and you know, the generations around

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<v Speaker 1>me and maybe one or two below know who dad was.

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<v Speaker 1>But the younger people, like in their twenties early twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea. The way that they were talking to

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<v Speaker 1>me was just how they would talk to normal people.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me that was a little confusing because I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to think I could use that power to work

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<v Speaker 1>out who's what and compartmentalize and do that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't do that with someone that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any idea, So that was difficult. But there wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that I was like super suss apart from Kirby.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I really was onto her at the start,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I flip flopped, like can you diat?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really obvious watching the show, But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I think she's playing obviously a very social game

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<v Speaker 2>underneath what we're seeing on TV, because by nature, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Herby's a very likable person and she must have

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<v Speaker 2>been building very strong connections. But the way we're watching

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<v Speaker 2>it as television, I think Australia is like, what is

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with these people? Why haven't you thrown Herby out?

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I'm watching it too, but I'm on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm watching it going this is so obvious. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're also not seeing, you know, with their edited it's suck.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like, you know, it's a storyline, it's TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're gonna make it look you know, like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So as much as idiots that we look like the

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<v Speaker 1>eye roll in the conversation, maybe not from that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from this conversation or the steaky or the thing

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<v Speaker 1>or the whatever. It's easy to sit there and arm

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<v Speaker 1>check quarterback and say, you know, these guys are idiots

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah xa Z and you're totally correct

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<v Speaker 1>because we are idiots and we should have seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time, when you're in the game, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not easy. And I want to sleep where my arrogance.

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<v Speaker 1>Going into the game, I was like, man, these people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be so easy to pick, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't you know Kirby pretty much straight away? But

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<v Speaker 1>I was thrown off. I looped back around and then

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<v Speaker 1>suspected her again. And you know, it's tried to get

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<v Speaker 1>people to vote a certain way, but I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to vote her singly because I didn't want to stick

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<v Speaker 1>my neck out. And you know, other things happened, what

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<v Speaker 1>the Cosuma vote. We talked about that a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>like did that just come out of nowhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Costomer is an interesting one. I didn't really understand how

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<v Speaker 2>quickly she went down. Seemed like a bit of a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>And also everyone that talks about her on the show

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, she was very sweet and she

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<v Speaker 2>was very innocent. I think it was a bizarre quick blunishment,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Like I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite understand it. I don't think she really understood it either.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just too close to Dicko, much like you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you and Cossama had not have befriended

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<v Speaker 2>Dicko but maybe kept it as a secret friendship, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys might have been there longer.

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<v Speaker 1>But with caause that storyline was pushed for another storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>All day, you know, I was hanging with the girls,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Gamble, Kira, Claudia, Prissy, and all day we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, man, I was in must have been real

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<v Speaker 1>weird today, Like she's you know, super sleepy and you're

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<v Speaker 1>over analyzed everything. There's acting a bit different. So this

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<v Speaker 1>particular day we're like talking to everyone and talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Josh and Woebron, I'm like, man, causes actually real strange today.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that was a big thing for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole day and probably a little bit of the day

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<v Speaker 1>before as well, but you don't see any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the vote happened, it's like completely out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looked that way, but there was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>lead up to us voting her out that just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get seen. And it makes us look even more ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>because like everyone's like, oh, we suspect this person, this person,

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<v Speaker 1>this person, and then we vote someone completely random, when

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<v Speaker 1>in reality, there was this huge influx of information from everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why when Dicko was addressing the table after the

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<v Speaker 1>vote saying that it was pissed off, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone just spoke their truth because that's how

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<v Speaker 1>they felt. This has been you know, a day and

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<v Speaker 1>a half of lead up of costumer acting abnormal and

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<v Speaker 1>when I mean normal, we'd known if it's three days,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's add normal after three days? You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't you can't really pick that. But in this instance

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, oh my god, you know so, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>did feel out of nowhere, but there was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>lead up to that that we just didn't see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting because most of the time there's five

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<v Speaker 2>storylines happening and then two go to go to where

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<v Speaker 2>I worked that out with Big Brother. Like when the

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<v Speaker 2>show finished, I remember saying to Mom, what about this?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like a storyline the whole season long?

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<v Speaker 2>And she goes, no, I we never saw that. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the kept bringing me and saying stories, and Mum

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<v Speaker 2>was in the car with me, and Mom goes, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to watch your show to work out what everyone

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<v Speaker 2>thinks is the reality versus what you experienced in reality television.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very strange dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would one hundred percent back then. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>side of the game, my gameplay you didn't see was

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<v Speaker 1>my interactions with the girls like there was. I spent

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<v Speaker 1>only eighty percent of my time with Kira, Claudia, Chrissy

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<v Speaker 1>and Gamble, you know, not just with spending next to Dicko,

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<v Speaker 1>going well, we're gonna do Dicko. It wasn't like that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very much, very different to that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's portrayed it was just this boys club

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<v Speaker 1>when in reality it kind of wasn't. Well, at least

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<v Speaker 1>not for me. I wanted to expand O these people

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't interact with at all. But for the most part, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was humbled with the girls, you know, because they

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<v Speaker 1>I love strong women. I was raised by a strong woman,

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<v Speaker 1>I married a strong woman. I was drawn to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So being around those girls felt very comfortable for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had some real badly laughs with them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're just absolute firecrackers, all of them, and completely different

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<v Speaker 1>personalities and amazing in their own right. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>also spent a lot of time with Luke and Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and a bit of time with Alex, and I spent

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<v Speaker 1>some time with Rachel too, But these things don't get

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<v Speaker 1>shown because they weren't pushing the narrative of certain parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the story, which is I totally understand. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you've watched this now and a part of

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<v Speaker 1>this now and you think, oh, I got a taste

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<v Speaker 1>for this because they say real like Craig Cocaine. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean about like you know, you're going to lose your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I do Traders again. I definitely do Traders again because

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fun. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the jungle. I don't want to eat anything weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a dancer. It's probably you know, love all

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't do I'm married, or one would want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You know, I can't do maths. I'm married,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so these sort of shows I can't cook.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife's a great cook. But yeah, those sort of

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<v Speaker 1>ones probably not. And you know, talking to Josh and

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<v Speaker 1>Luke about their involvement in the block, that sounded really hectic,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly for those two boys, and I actually watched their season.

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<v Speaker 1>But something like this, you know, I'd potentially do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they've asked you to do like the voice

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<v Speaker 2>in Israelian Idol though the singing ones. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're very well known for being in your own band.

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<v Speaker 2>We know you're a singer. We've just watched an episode

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<v Speaker 2>of one of those shows. I can't remember which one

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<v Speaker 2>it is, now, where is it your cousin or something?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a relative that's on it anyway, and that's a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's not a way that I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to further my career. There are no shortcuts in

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<v Speaker 1>the music industry, and you've got to pay dues. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not something that I would do. But east of

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<v Speaker 1>their own, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think you've been the great actor. I think actings on.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm being my I'm putting my Jackie

0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Gillies on. That's a gamble Bro reference. It's a Real

0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.439
<v Speaker 2>Housewives reference. You might not get that one, but as

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<v Speaker 2>she's a psychic, I don't know. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this is maybe an opportunity for people to get to

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<v Speaker 2>know you and now do some work in acting.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, and that was I'm some of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I did it. I did a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>movies in my twenties, Queen the dand With the Lea

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<v Speaker 1>When you Know at the Time, which was shot in

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<v Speaker 1>Mellen and directed by Michael Reimer By Visit a movie

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<v Speaker 1>called The Wild Girls, which isn't as wild as it

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<v Speaker 1>seems that was with Alivia, John and Chloe, which it

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<v Speaker 1>was in my twenties, so you know, I'm in my

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 1>forties now look very different. I do want to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into that then, and I'm actually in shooting in

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the movie The End of the Year. Jeff Bennett bio picked.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no small roles in acting, you know, That's

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<v Speaker 1>how you've got to seek. I have a minor rolling map,

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>which I'm really excited about. For me, it's about moving

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<v Speaker 1>into that space again. Music is obviously a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of my life, performing at the songs for John Farnham,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the concept that's happening in September, which I'm

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 1>really excited about. So that's still very much part of

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 1>my life. But I also want to get into back

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>in act and head down that path again. That pursue

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<v Speaker 1>that because as I age into my later years, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't be in a rock slash metal band. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tribe as for Neil Old Rockers. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that they're the big successful one. So at some

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.679
<v Speaker 1>point I need to grow up and you know, I

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.360
<v Speaker 1>need to start thinking about other things to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a fun transition for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But perhaps let me go because I've run out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wanted to say, because everyone will want

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<v Speaker 2>to know did your parents watch it? And did they

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<v Speaker 2>send you any notes? When I want to know, what

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<v Speaker 2>are the notes that you feel comfortable revealing Mum?

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<v Speaker 1>And Mum thinks I'm playing a decent game. But she's

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody else like saying it, you know, and she's like,

0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you are moron, Like you know, it's so obvious. Dang,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, like you know, she's like and

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<v Speaker 1>Dad has been super supported, like just you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was devo when I was killed because I didn't tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, just just all the support from him. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's been lovel But I was going to say that weird.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing I remember about your parents was how disconnected

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<v Speaker 2>I was from them being anybody like, because when your

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<v Speaker 2>children don't care about famous people, like we didn't. I

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 2>don't think we cared who Denise was, you know, I

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 2>don't think we quite understood it. But I just remember,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Whispering Jack had come out in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>so me and your dad was huge during that time

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<v Speaker 2>of spending time with you boys and with your parents,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just remember there was no connection for my

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<v Speaker 2>my child brain to John Farnham to being a singer,

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<v Speaker 2>to who your dad was when he was at a

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<v Speaker 2>house like he was just your parents were so suburban.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they really are and they still are.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're super humble and very played down and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a beautiful house, but it's not lazy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, extravagant, you kind of thing. So they're very

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<v Speaker 1>played down and they've always been like one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember people would always ask stories. Then you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, there's absolutely nothing. They're like the most normal people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could think I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of super normal, suber normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, maybe send your brother James in

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<v Speaker 2>the next season because I don't know if I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>ready to do it All Stars yet, but you can definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, park the car at the front for the

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<v Speaker 2>All Stars one, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But I appreciate that, mate, Bambo. It is a pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with you again after how many years

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<v Speaker 1>it's been.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll leave you to it. Enjoy chatting to the media

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<v Speaker 2>about this and reveling in it. Yeah, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>being so generous with your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Great tablet.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmm,