Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week.
Speaker 2: They are yetay, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. As
Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday, we are slightly out of order this week
Speaker 2: because I have so many of these Traders Australia conversations
Speaker 2: coming through, so I just want to do some quick
Speaker 2: housekeeping on that. So today we have the Rob Farnham Chat.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we're going to do the movie review podcast with Bros.
Speaker 2: And then on Sunday I'm doing a double Traders episode
Speaker 2: with Gamble and Dicko. So Gamble and Dicko were available
Speaker 2: later in the week, so that's kind of why we're
Speaker 2: a little bit jumbled. But today Rob is here and
Speaker 2: this one turned into a bit of an unexpected reunion
Speaker 2: for me. Rob and I actually knew each other as kids,
Speaker 2: and we hadn't seen each other in maybe thirty years,
Speaker 2: and within the first few minutes we found ourselves reminiscing
Speaker 2: about riding motorcycles around near him South before eventually remembering
Speaker 2: that we're actually here to talk about the Traders. So
Speaker 2: guess what, guys, there's a lot to unpack. Rob tells
Speaker 2: me why after years of turning down reality television. This
Speaker 2: final was the show that got a yes, and weather.
Speaker 2: Growing up as John Farnham's son gave him a secret
Speaker 2: advantage when it came to working out who was being
Speaker 2: genuine with him and who was being friends with him
Speaker 2: with an ulterior motive. We get into his relationship with Dicko,
Speaker 2: which goes back much further than viewers might even realize.
Speaker 2: What was really happening inside the infamous LSD alliance and
Speaker 2: why the version of Rob's game we saw on television
Speaker 2: was actually different to the relationships that he was building
Speaker 2: inside the manner. We also talk about Kirby. Rob had
Speaker 2: his suspicions very early on with Kirby, so we'll find
Speaker 2: out what happened there and just how much harder it
Speaker 2: is to spot a trader when you're actually inside the
Speaker 2: game compared to screaming their name at your television from
Speaker 2: your couch. Rob also reveals some fascinating context about a
Speaker 2: banishment that seemingly came out of nowhere, and explains just
Speaker 2: how much gameplay and conversation never makes it to the
Speaker 2: final edit. Then we look at what's next for Rob.
Speaker 2: Could the traders convince Rob to do more reality television?
Speaker 2: Could we see him returning to acting, and what did
Speaker 2: John and Jill Farnham actually make of watching their son
Speaker 2: attempting to navigate this completely ridiculous game. There is some
Speaker 2: really lovely moments in this chat, and after more than
Speaker 2: three decades, it was genuinely great to catch up. So
Speaker 2: here it is, guys, Rob Farnham on TV reload. How
Speaker 2: are you Rob? Are you well?
Speaker 1: Well? Thank you Ben, thank you for having men.
Speaker 2: It's funny. I don't know if you remember this, but
Speaker 2: we hung out a fair when we were kids. Oh shit,
Speaker 2: do you remember spending any time in near him? In
Speaker 2: near him South?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So my dad was so weird, but my dad was
Speaker 2: with Denise Drysdale, and so we used to Well, your
Speaker 2: place was not far from Denise's house, and we had
Speaker 2: these motorcycles and I crashed the motorcycle I had, so
Speaker 2: you a couple of times picked me up from Denise's
Speaker 2: place on your motorcycle because I didn't have one, and
Speaker 2: we'd ride around the paddocks in in near them.
Speaker 1: I actually I remember that. That's bizarre. How you going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good. They're like thirty years later, I have
Speaker 2: not seen you. Yeah, in a very very long time
Speaker 2: that we were children. I think I was like twelve
Speaker 2: or thirteen, I don't know, is that crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2: So we need to talk about the Traders. I love
Speaker 2: this show, and I think you were such a great addition.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know you're not a
Speaker 2: reality TV person. What were you doing there?
Speaker 1: What was I doing? I thought that to myself every day,
Speaker 1: so I like to challenge myself. And I'd seen the
Speaker 1: show a couple of times, or a couple of seasons
Speaker 1: of the show, the US and the UK one, so
Speaker 1: I was already a fan of the premise and how
Speaker 1: it all worked. I thought it was very funny. I
Speaker 1: liked that it wasn't contrived, and producers weren't talking in
Speaker 1: people's year or it didn't look like that. So it
Speaker 1: was just a bit more of a socials experiment, and
Speaker 1: it turned out that that's how it was. So when
Speaker 1: the opportunity came along and I was asked, I actually
Speaker 1: looked at my phone and I said to my wife Mel,
Speaker 1: I was like Traders, and we both just instantly both said,
Speaker 1: I've got it. I knew it was going to be fun.
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to meet some people that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily meet unless I did something like that.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I like putting myself in in
Speaker 1: situations where I'm a bit of a fish out of
Speaker 1: water and I'm no stranger to performing and being on
Speaker 1: TV and around celebrities and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So for me, it was a bit of an easy yes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of why I was just like, absolutely.
Speaker 2: But had you been asked to do reality television before?
Speaker 2: I mean I'm assuming that you have. I mean, all
Speaker 2: of these shows would have wanted you over the years.
Speaker 2: Can you maybe tell me some of the ones you've
Speaker 2: turned down?
Speaker 1: I won't go into too much detail, but there has
Speaker 1: been a couple over the years that have and I've
Speaker 1: said no to them, and you know, they stopped asking
Speaker 1: after a while because they were just getting no's. It's
Speaker 1: just not something that I ever ever wanted to do.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even watch reality TV. I think
Speaker 1: the only reality TV show I watched every now and
Speaker 1: then it's probably Kardashians. But don't tell anyone.
Speaker 2: So picturing you and Mel sitting in the Northern rivers
Speaker 2: watching Kardashian and it sounds pretty fabulous.
Speaker 1: Rob well, we enjoy it, and you know, obviously Qcum
Speaker 1: Girl and the whole thing. So yeah, you know we
Speaker 1: watched that and every now and then that's a bit
Speaker 1: of a guilty pleasure. It's a bit of fun.
Speaker 2: Also, what I thought was really interesting was that Ian
Speaker 2: Dixon made this connection with you pretty quickly. I love Dicko,
Speaker 2: So if I was you, I would have been pelling
Speaker 2: up with him as well. But I just he kind
Speaker 2: of was like, you know, we kind of know each other.
Speaker 2: How much did you know of Ian Dixon.
Speaker 1: I've known Dicko since I was about Wow. So he
Speaker 1: worked for a record label that my old boy was
Speaker 1: Wounds and then for like decades, so I knew him
Speaker 1: very very well. Wow. Yeah. So and we'd hung out
Speaker 1: multiple times over the over the years as adults and
Speaker 1: you know three the Australian ilier and so I knew
Speaker 1: him really really really really really well. So for me,
Speaker 1: it was just an easy connection. And you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was going to be there. I was
Speaker 1: happy that he was because, you know, being my first
Speaker 1: time into a reality TV show, it was nice to
Speaker 1: have someone that could almost ground me a little bit.
Speaker 1: And so at the beginning, it was very much like, yes,
Speaker 1: like I've got someone that I know I can trust,
Speaker 1: regardless of him that person being a trader, he would
Speaker 1: never have murdered me, and vice versa, well to a point,
Speaker 1: maybe I might have killed him if I was a trader.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But he I trusted him and I
Speaker 1: love him. He's an amazing human. He's extremely articulate, very
Speaker 1: very intelligent. And you know, some people hate him and
Speaker 1: I understand that, and some people really really like him
Speaker 1: and are drawn to him. And he's a very good
Speaker 1: public speaker. He does command a room, and that's what
Speaker 1: he's known for. You know, he's known for doing that.
Speaker 1: So that's why, you know, when when he proposed the
Speaker 1: LSD connection, of course I was going to say it.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to say no on day one
Speaker 1: because I don't know anyone, so, you know, and lucky
Speaker 1: for him, he had me and cost him up, you know,
Speaker 1: these two connections. So he got pretty lucky with that,
Speaker 1: and then slowly we started to build around it with
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Luke. Then he went a little I
Speaker 1: feel he went a little too far by the secrecy
Speaker 1: in LSD had gone. You know, it was just he
Speaker 1: was just whoever was sitting next to he'd invite into
Speaker 1: the gang.
Speaker 2: And it was recruiting way too many people. What was
Speaker 2: going on with that?
Speaker 1: I was like, there was a couple of times that
Speaker 1: aren't shown on Tiva. Rahman put the brakes, like stop
Speaker 1: inviting people like Kirby. You just what you invited Kirby, Like,
Speaker 1: I think she's a traderr And so at the beginning
Speaker 1: the block voting, and I know it's controversial, but to
Speaker 1: me that made sense. And I was went in to
Speaker 1: the game thinking I don't need to make friends with anyone,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be emotionally detached, and but I'm
Speaker 1: not like that, you know. And after a few votes
Speaker 1: voting the wrong people out because I figured we'd at
Speaker 1: least get one, you know, in a block vote, like
Speaker 1: randomly get one, And that was when I started really going, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a bit shit's going to be pair shaped here.
Speaker 1: We need to sort of steer the ship in a
Speaker 1: different direction. And yeah, just it just panned out how
Speaker 1: panned out, unfortunately. But yeah, I mean I love Dicko.
Speaker 1: He's very polarizing to people that just meet him as well,
Speaker 1: so I understand why he got voted out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, I'm shocked
Speaker 2: that they didn't make him a trader because it just obvious,
Speaker 2: I know, but it was like born to be a trader.
Speaker 2: I actually think, this is my theory, is that Dicko thought,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I'm not a trader at the start, but
Speaker 2: I'm definitely getting recruited. I actually think in some way
Speaker 2: some of his LSD was a audition to the traders
Speaker 2: that were obviously in full function to be like, hey.
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. And I never thought
Speaker 1: of it like that. So that is a super good point.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what another player is doing
Speaker 1: at the moment, you know, in that last episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a really really good point. I never looked at
Speaker 1: it like that. But yeah, it was just an interesting
Speaker 1: way to play. But yeah, it's just I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just got a little bit. It just got a
Speaker 1: little bit old towards the end. And yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just like, come on, man, we need to we need
Speaker 1: to start actually voting for hunches and you know, and
Speaker 1: that's why a few of us went rogue a couple
Speaker 1: of times, and Hussemer went and there was things like that,
Speaker 1: So you know, in the last day, it was, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to vote for Reese because I didn't
Speaker 1: think Reese was a trader, you know, but that was
Speaker 1: where the block vote was potentially going, and I could
Speaker 1: have saved I could have saved Dicker, but you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to lose another faithfulm particularly Reese. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of I felt bad because I could have
Speaker 1: saved Kicker. Because Chrissy and Dicko, I believe there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a personality clash a little bit. Christy
Speaker 1: will deny that, and I love you, Chrissy, if you're
Speaker 1: watching all the love, I do feel like there was
Speaker 1: a little bit of the old white man complex being
Speaker 1: the boss, which you know, there are elements of that,
Speaker 1: I will admit that. So maybe that that was a
Speaker 1: little bit like, you know, cheer down the patriarchy kind
Speaker 1: of thing, but it was what it was, you know,
Speaker 1: And Dicko left, and once that happened, I was like, shit,
Speaker 1: I'm next. I'm just thankful I got murdered and not
Speaker 1: voted out. I think standing there at the round table
Speaker 1: getting voted out would have been would have been pretty tough.
Speaker 2: It is a tough way and you talk to I've
Speaker 2: spoken to people all over the world. I've spoken to
Speaker 2: people who played the American English ones, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the banishment is hard. Do you know what I
Speaker 2: think is fantastic about the decision to pick you is
Speaker 2: I think if anyone knows you, you've grown up with
Speaker 2: very famous parents, like both your mum and dad are
Speaker 2: so well known, and particularly your father. And I think
Speaker 2: when you grew up with people and I saw this
Speaker 2: with Pete Robb with Denise being very famous, you know,
Speaker 2: through the eighties in nineties, is that as a child
Speaker 2: you pick up pretty quickly who wants to be friends
Speaker 2: with you for real reasons and who's being very disingenuous.
Speaker 2: It's just it is the lifestyle of a celebrity child.
Speaker 2: I think, do you think that am I right by
Speaker 2: saying that you're a good pick to bottle show for
Speaker 2: that reason?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a good pick for the show,
Speaker 1: but you are right in the respect of what you
Speaker 1: just said. You know, I definitely I can tell when
Speaker 1: people are you know, when they're asking. Growing up, you
Speaker 1: can just tell straight away, you know someone actually is
Speaker 1: interested and wants to know stuff, or if they're being
Speaker 1: a smart ass, or if they're trying to take the
Speaker 1: piers or whatever. So you pick it up pick up
Speaker 1: on it pretty quickly. And I did think going into
Speaker 1: the show that that was going to be my superpower.
Speaker 1: But everyone was very well pretty good at either high
Speaker 1: you know high, and half the people didn't know who
Speaker 1: my old boy was. Like a lot of the younger people,
Speaker 1: like I'm forty four and you know, the generations around
Speaker 1: me and maybe one or two below know who dad was.
Speaker 1: But the younger people, like in their twenties early twenties,
Speaker 1: had no idea. The way that they were talking to
Speaker 1: me was just how they would talk to normal people.
Speaker 1: So for me that was a little confusing because I'd
Speaker 1: like to think I could use that power to work
Speaker 1: out who's what and compartmentalize and do that whole thing.
Speaker 1: But you can't do that with someone that doesn't have
Speaker 1: any idea, So that was difficult. But there wasn't really
Speaker 1: anyone that I was like super suss apart from Kirby.
Speaker 1: You know, I really was onto her at the start,
Speaker 1: and then I flip flopped, like can you diat?
Speaker 2: I think it's really obvious watching the show, But I
Speaker 2: mean I think she's playing obviously a very social game
Speaker 2: underneath what we're seeing on TV, because by nature, I
Speaker 2: think Herby's a very likable person and she must have
Speaker 2: been building very strong connections. But the way we're watching
Speaker 2: it as television, I think Australia is like, what is
Speaker 2: wrong with these people? Why haven't you thrown Herby out?
Speaker 1: And look, I'm watching it too, but I'm on the show,
Speaker 1: but I'm watching it going this is so obvious. But
Speaker 1: you're also not seeing, you know, with their edited it's suck.
Speaker 1: So it looks like, you know, it's a storyline, it's TV.
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna make it look you know, like that.
Speaker 1: So as much as idiots that we look like the
Speaker 1: eye roll in the conversation, maybe not from that conversation.
Speaker 1: It's from this conversation or the steaky or the thing
Speaker 1: or the whatever. It's easy to sit there and arm
Speaker 1: check quarterback and say, you know, these guys are idiots
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah xa Z and you're totally correct
Speaker 1: because we are idiots and we should have seen it.
Speaker 1: But at the time, when you're in the game, it's
Speaker 1: not easy. And I want to sleep where my arrogance.
Speaker 1: Going into the game, I was like, man, these people
Speaker 1: are going to be so easy to pick, and there's
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know Kirby pretty much straight away? But
Speaker 1: I was thrown off. I looped back around and then
Speaker 1: suspected her again. And you know, it's tried to get
Speaker 1: people to vote a certain way, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: to vote her singly because I didn't want to stick
Speaker 1: my neck out. And you know, other things happened, what
Speaker 1: the Cosuma vote. We talked about that a little bit,
Speaker 1: like did that just come out of nowhere?
Speaker 2: Costomer is an interesting one. I didn't really understand how
Speaker 2: quickly she went down. Seemed like a bit of a surprise.
Speaker 2: And also everyone that talks about her on the show
Speaker 2: was like, you know, she was very sweet and she
Speaker 2: was very innocent. I think it was a bizarre quick blunishment,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like I just didn't
Speaker 2: quite understand it. I don't think she really understood it either.
Speaker 2: She was just too close to Dicko, much like you.
Speaker 2: I think if you and Cossama had not have befriended
Speaker 2: Dicko but maybe kept it as a secret friendship, you
Speaker 2: guys might have been there longer.
Speaker 1: But with caause that storyline was pushed for another storyline.
Speaker 1: All day, you know, I was hanging with the girls,
Speaker 1: which was Gamble, Kira, Claudia, Prissy, and all day we
Speaker 1: were like, man, I was in must have been real
Speaker 1: weird today, Like she's you know, super sleepy and you're
Speaker 1: over analyzed everything. There's acting a bit different. So this
Speaker 1: particular day we're like talking to everyone and talking to
Speaker 1: Josh and Woebron, I'm like, man, causes actually real strange today.
Speaker 1: And you know that was a big thing for the
Speaker 1: whole day and probably a little bit of the day
Speaker 1: before as well, but you don't see any of that.
Speaker 1: So when the vote happened, it's like completely out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and it looked that way, but there was a huge
Speaker 1: lead up to us voting her out that just didn't
Speaker 1: get seen. And it makes us look even more ridiculous
Speaker 1: because like everyone's like, oh, we suspect this person, this person,
Speaker 1: this person, and then we vote someone completely random, when
Speaker 1: in reality, there was this huge influx of information from everybody.
Speaker 1: That's why when Dicko was addressing the table after the
Speaker 1: vote saying that it was pissed off, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone just spoke their truth because that's how
Speaker 1: they felt. This has been you know, a day and
Speaker 1: a half of lead up of costumer acting abnormal and
Speaker 1: when I mean normal, we'd known if it's three days,
Speaker 1: so what's add normal after three days? You know, you
Speaker 1: can't you can't really pick that. But in this instance
Speaker 1: we're like, oh my god, you know so, yeah, that
Speaker 1: did feel out of nowhere, but there was a huge
Speaker 1: lead up to that that we just didn't see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because most of the time there's five
Speaker 2: storylines happening and then two go to go to where
Speaker 2: I worked that out with Big Brother. Like when the
Speaker 2: show finished, I remember saying to Mom, what about this?
Speaker 2: And it was like a storyline the whole season long?
Speaker 2: And she goes, no, I we never saw that. And
Speaker 2: then the kept bringing me and saying stories, and Mum
Speaker 2: was in the car with me, and Mom goes, you
Speaker 2: need to watch your show to work out what everyone
Speaker 2: thinks is the reality versus what you experienced in reality television.
Speaker 2: It's a very strange dynamic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would one hundred percent back then. The whole
Speaker 1: side of the game, my gameplay you didn't see was
Speaker 1: my interactions with the girls like there was. I spent
Speaker 1: only eighty percent of my time with Kira, Claudia, Chrissy
Speaker 1: and Gamble, you know, not just with spending next to Dicko,
Speaker 1: going well, we're gonna do Dicko. It wasn't like that, Like,
Speaker 1: it was very much, very different to that. And then
Speaker 1: you know, it's portrayed it was just this boys club
Speaker 1: when in reality it kind of wasn't. Well, at least
Speaker 1: not for me. I wanted to expand O these people
Speaker 1: I didn't interact with at all. But for the most part, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was humbled with the girls, you know, because they
Speaker 1: I love strong women. I was raised by a strong woman,
Speaker 1: I married a strong woman. I was drawn to that.
Speaker 1: So being around those girls felt very comfortable for me,
Speaker 1: and I had some real badly laughs with them because
Speaker 1: they're just absolute firecrackers, all of them, and completely different
Speaker 1: personalities and amazing in their own right. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: also spent a lot of time with Luke and Josh
Speaker 1: and a bit of time with Alex, and I spent
Speaker 1: some time with Rachel too, But these things don't get
Speaker 1: shown because they weren't pushing the narrative of certain parts
Speaker 1: of the story, which is I totally understand. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you've watched this now and a part of
Speaker 1: this now and you think, oh, I got a taste
Speaker 1: for this because they say real like Craig Cocaine. I
Speaker 1: mean about like you know, you're going to lose your mind.
Speaker 1: I do Traders again. I definitely do Traders again because
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in the jungle. I don't want to eat anything weird.
Speaker 1: I'm not a dancer. It's probably you know, love all
Speaker 1: and I can't do I'm married, or one would want
Speaker 1: to do. You know, I can't do maths. I'm married,
Speaker 1: you know, so these sort of shows I can't cook.
Speaker 1: My wife's a great cook. But yeah, those sort of
Speaker 1: ones probably not. And you know, talking to Josh and
Speaker 1: Luke about their involvement in the block, that sounded really hectic,
Speaker 1: particularly for those two boys, and I actually watched their season.
Speaker 1: But something like this, you know, I'd potentially do it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've asked you to do like the voice
Speaker 2: in Israelian Idol though the singing ones. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: you're very well known for being in your own band.
Speaker 2: We know you're a singer. We've just watched an episode
Speaker 2: of one of those shows. I can't remember which one
Speaker 2: it is, now, where is it your cousin or something?
Speaker 2: There's a relative that's on it anyway, and that's a
Speaker 2: big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's not a way that I would
Speaker 1: want to further my career. There are no shortcuts in
Speaker 1: the music industry, and you've got to pay dues. It's
Speaker 1: just not something that I would do. But east of
Speaker 1: their own, I.
Speaker 2: Think you've been the great actor. I think actings on.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being my I'm putting my Jackie
Speaker 2: Gillies on. That's a gamble Bro reference. It's a Real
Speaker 2: Housewives reference. You might not get that one, but as
Speaker 2: she's a psychic, I don't know. I just feel like
Speaker 2: this is maybe an opportunity for people to get to
Speaker 2: know you and now do some work in acting.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and that was I'm some of the
Speaker 1: reason why I did it. I did a couple of
Speaker 1: movies in my twenties, Queen the dand With the Lea
Speaker 1: When you Know at the Time, which was shot in
Speaker 1: Mellen and directed by Michael Reimer By Visit a movie
Speaker 1: called The Wild Girls, which isn't as wild as it
Speaker 1: seems that was with Alivia, John and Chloe, which it
Speaker 1: was in my twenties, so you know, I'm in my
Speaker 1: forties now look very different. I do want to get
Speaker 1: back into that then, and I'm actually in shooting in
Speaker 1: the movie The End of the Year. Jeff Bennett bio picked.
Speaker 1: There are no small roles in acting, you know, That's
Speaker 1: how you've got to seek. I have a minor rolling map,
Speaker 1: which I'm really excited about. For me, it's about moving
Speaker 1: into that space again. Music is obviously a huge part
Speaker 1: of my life, performing at the songs for John Farnham,
Speaker 1: which is the concept that's happening in September, which I'm
Speaker 1: really excited about. So that's still very much part of
Speaker 1: my life. But I also want to get into back
Speaker 1: in act and head down that path again. That pursue
Speaker 1: that because as I age into my later years, I
Speaker 1: can't be in a rock slash metal band. You know,
Speaker 1: you can tribe as for Neil Old Rockers. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know that they're the big successful one. So at some
Speaker 1: point I need to grow up and you know, I
Speaker 1: need to start thinking about other things to do. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a fun transition for sure.
Speaker 2: But perhaps let me go because I've run out of time.
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to say, because everyone will want
Speaker 2: to know did your parents watch it? And did they
Speaker 2: send you any notes? When I want to know, what
Speaker 2: are the notes that you feel comfortable revealing Mum?
Speaker 1: And Mum thinks I'm playing a decent game. But she's
Speaker 1: like everybody else like saying it, you know, and she's like,
Speaker 1: you are moron, Like you know, it's so obvious. Dang,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like you know, she's like and
Speaker 1: Dad has been super supported, like just you know, he
Speaker 1: was devo when I was killed because I didn't tell him,
Speaker 1: and yeah, just just all the support from him. So
Speaker 1: it's been lovel But I was going to say that weird.
Speaker 2: The thing I remember about your parents was how disconnected
Speaker 2: I was from them being anybody like, because when your
Speaker 2: children don't care about famous people, like we didn't. I
Speaker 2: don't think we cared who Denise was, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think we quite understood it. But I just remember,
Speaker 2: you know, Whispering Jack had come out in the eighties,
Speaker 2: so me and your dad was huge during that time
Speaker 2: of spending time with you boys and with your parents,
Speaker 2: and I just remember there was no connection for my
Speaker 2: my child brain to John Farnham to being a singer,
Speaker 2: to who your dad was when he was at a
Speaker 2: house like he was just your parents were so suburban.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they really are and they still are.
Speaker 1: You know, they're super humble and very played down and
Speaker 1: you know, I have a beautiful house, but it's not lazy,
Speaker 1: you know, extravagant, you kind of thing. So they're very
Speaker 1: played down and they've always been like one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember people would always ask stories. Then you'd
Speaker 2: be like, there's absolutely nothing. They're like the most normal people.
Speaker 2: But I could think I could.
Speaker 1: Think of super normal, suber normal.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, maybe send your brother James in
Speaker 2: the next season because I don't know if I'll be
Speaker 2: ready to do it All Stars yet, but you can definitely,
Speaker 2: you know, park the car at the front for the
Speaker 2: All Stars one, I think.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate that, mate, Bambo. It is a pleasure
Speaker 1: to catch up with you again after how many years
Speaker 1: it's been.
Speaker 2: I'll leave you to it. Enjoy chatting to the media
Speaker 2: about this and reveling in it. Yeah, thank you for
Speaker 2: being so generous with your time.
Speaker 1: Great tablet.
Speaker 2: Mmm,