Speaker 1: Hooked, hitched and hung up. Acknowledges the traditional custodians of
Speaker 1: country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community.
Speaker 1: We pay our respect to their elders past and present
Speaker 1: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Speaker 1: Islander peoples today.
Speaker 2: This episode was recorded on Walla Medical Land.
Speaker 1: Just a little warning, guys, there is a little bit
Speaker 1: of spicy language in this episode.
Speaker 2: In today's episode, the role of Jason Momoa will be
Speaker 2: played by me Laura Burrn.
Speaker 1: And Lisa Banney will be played by myself for Fretty Hockley.
Speaker 2: Ah, hey mate, how are you going? Have you got
Speaker 2: any chips or mixed nuts? And I'm going to get
Speaker 2: a pine of Guinness and I'll have a pain of
Speaker 2: Guinness too.
Speaker 1: What excuse me?
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 3: I'm literally already obsessed with your work and I love
Speaker 3: the Cosby Show. I've loved everything you've ever been in
Speaker 3: and now you just happen to drink my favorite beer
Speaker 3: in the whole world, which no one ever orders on
Speaker 3: a night out except you.
Speaker 2: Lisa Bennett.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we want the same thing. Love it first, Guinness.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, since when was Jason Momora a Bogan Australian.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're not letting you act ever again. I'm Laura
Speaker 2: and I'm Britt and this is Hooked, Hitched, and hung up.
Speaker 2: It's the show about the fallouts, the forever afters, and
Speaker 2: the biggest celebrity relationships. I am actually so excited about
Speaker 2: this episode. Look, there's many reasons. I did a lot
Speaker 2: of research. I got real deep into the internet.
Speaker 1: Also, Jason Momoa is the Hale Pass.
Speaker 2: If you listen to Life Uncut, you guys might already
Speaker 2: know that my Yeah, my hall pass is Jason MoMA.
Speaker 2: What is this man mountain? A mountain of man that
Speaker 2: you can climb?
Speaker 1: Does this excite you that now the man you want
Speaker 1: to climb is single?
Speaker 2: Well, no, because I'm not, you know, But I mean
Speaker 2: that's the whole beauty of having a hall pass, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think Matt realizes that he's my hall pass
Speaker 2: and that and I also don't think that I'll ever
Speaker 2: meet the guy. So I'm pretty sure that we are fine.
Speaker 2: But we are unpacking the relationship, the idyllic, beautiful relationship
Speaker 2: that ended up being not necessarily that idyllic and beautiful
Speaker 2: between Jason Momoa and Lisa Bennet. Now, I bet you're
Speaker 2: looking at me like, fuck is Lisa?
Speaker 1: I literally I was, Okay, I'm just gonna completely admit
Speaker 1: defeat here and put my ignorant little hand up. Of
Speaker 1: course I know who they are, but I I only
Speaker 1: know Lisa Benet because she is married to Jason Momoa,
Speaker 1: and I know that that's messed up because I know
Speaker 1: that she was a lot more famous than him. Yes,
Speaker 1: and there is so much to the story, but I
Speaker 1: also think like Jason Momoa kind of obviously Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones like that threw him into the world of pop
Speaker 1: culture that made him an absolute superstar.
Speaker 2: Then he went on to do Aquleman, which we'll get
Speaker 2: into in a little while. That almost took him off
Speaker 2: my list of being my After that, maybe I was like, fuck,
Speaker 2: that is a train recreating to happen. But going back
Speaker 2: to who Lisa Bonnet is, So she was freaking huge
Speaker 2: in the eighties. Now, she played Denise on The Cosby Show.
Speaker 2: And when I say the Cosby Show, I mean the
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby Show, and they're the show that should never
Speaker 2: be talked about anymore. But at the time was really great.
Speaker 1: Do you think everyone listening knows what The Cosby Show
Speaker 1: is and why we shouldn't be talking about it.
Speaker 2: I feel like people know the Cosby Show now, but
Speaker 2: for all the wrong reasons. So The Cosby Show was
Speaker 2: huge in the eighties. I remember it being on TV
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. It was a beautiful black
Speaker 2: family who were probably the first time they had really
Speaker 2: represented an African American family on TV. Like Bill Cosby
Speaker 2: was the dad. There was a mum, can't remember her name,
Speaker 2: then Lisa Bennet. She was the daughter of Bill Cosby.
Speaker 2: Her name was Denise in this series. At the time,
Speaker 2: she was a teenager, right, and she really got thrust
Speaker 2: into the world of like being a absolute megastar with
Speaker 2: this because at the time, you're gonna remember, like in
Speaker 2: the eighties, like sitcoms were the stars.
Speaker 1: Well it's a different time too, isn't it, Because there
Speaker 1: were no social media back then, So now you have
Speaker 1: so many different ways to portray yourself and say who
Speaker 1: you are or show that hey, this is just a
Speaker 1: character and my social media is something else, like my
Speaker 1: personal life is something else. But I just think it's
Speaker 1: really interesting that now we can differentiate between characters and people.
Speaker 2: We find out more. I think out intrigue is.
Speaker 1: Probably a little bit less because we have this excessive
Speaker 1: amount of access to Hollywood stars, but back then we
Speaker 1: just were left wanting more and more and more.
Speaker 2: She's still pretty largely unknown in that, even though she
Speaker 2: is very famous, she doesn't have social media, she rarely
Speaker 2: does interviews, and she lives a relatively private life, which
Speaker 2: is in stark contrast alongside Jason Momoa. But getting back
Speaker 2: to where and what she was doing on The Cosby Show, now,
Speaker 2: just to give you guys a bit of a background
Speaker 2: as to why this story, I guess takes a little
Speaker 2: bit of a dark turn. Is Like, obviously, at the
Speaker 2: time when the show was on TV, the Cosby Show
Speaker 2: was deemed as like a really wholesome family. It's come
Speaker 2: out since then that Bill Cosby was actually very predatory.
Speaker 2: He was this wholesome man on the show and then
Speaker 2: so sinister off the TV show, and it just absolutely horrific,
Speaker 2: and it shocked so many people because everybody who was
Speaker 2: invested in this family really felt betrayed. Like I remember
Speaker 2: watching that show and then hearing everything that came out,
Speaker 2: and it was like almost unbelievable, even more like completely
Speaker 2: unbelievable though, is that through another extremely wild and very
Speaker 2: coold series of events, Cosby was convicted of sexual assault.
Speaker 2: He was jailed, but then his conviction was overturned, and
Speaker 2: it's worth reading up on that if you guys want
Speaker 2: to know more about the saga, But it is not
Speaker 2: the crux of this story.
Speaker 1: Has Lisa ever come out and spoken about that or
Speaker 1: said anything about that? Made a statement?
Speaker 2: She did come out, so there is a really great
Speaker 2: article which is on neta porte. She sat down and
Speaker 2: she spoke, like I said, She's incredibly private, but she
Speaker 2: did do quite a an insight into her life and
Speaker 2: an insight into her past. And she said that she
Speaker 2: had no knowledge of the way he had treated women,
Speaker 2: and if she had known anything more than that, she
Speaker 2: would have come forward earlier. But she said, and this
Speaker 2: was her quote, there was no knowledge on my part
Speaker 2: about his specific actions, but there was just energy, and
Speaker 2: that type of sinister shadow energy cannot be concealed. I
Speaker 2: always felt it, and if I had anything more to
Speaker 2: reveal than it would have happened a long time ago.
Speaker 2: That's my nature. The truth will set you free. She
Speaker 2: think it's so interesting that she feels like like she
Speaker 2: butted heads with Bill so much in their production and filming,
Speaker 2: and that's very evident in the way that she speaks
Speaker 2: about him. But there's and in the way that she
Speaker 2: has spoken about him since many many years down the track.
Speaker 2: She says that there was this real like just well,
Speaker 2: she knew something wasn't right. Yeah, you know something is wrong,
Speaker 2: but you don't know what.
Speaker 1: And she would have never imagined that it would have
Speaker 1: been something of that catastrophic level or one hundred percent
Speaker 1: she would have said something.
Speaker 2: Bill was trying to portray this perfect nuclear family, you know,
Speaker 2: and at the time Lisa was she was a teenager,
Speaker 2: but she also was trying to break out into more
Speaker 2: of a movie career. She was not necessarily the best
Speaker 2: behave kid on set. She would often rock up late,
Speaker 2: she would often like be quite challenging to work with
Speaker 2: from the reports that I've read, But also she wanted
Speaker 2: to really break out and she was like this like
Speaker 2: uninhibited hippie. She was like, you know, you can't control me,
Speaker 2: define me. I'm going to live my life. So Lisa
Speaker 2: ended up doing this photo shoot in Andy Warhol's own
Speaker 2: Interview magazine, which was out at the time and now
Speaker 2: the front cover was a photo which is just a
Speaker 2: picture of her face, but on the cover, it also
Speaker 2: promised a topless photo inside, which is why all considering
Speaker 2: she was playing a teenager on the TV series, so
Speaker 2: this completely went against what Bill Cosby was trying to create,
Speaker 2: this wholesome outlook. And also, like you've got to remember,
Speaker 2: like we're saying, you know, the person that someone was
Speaker 2: on a TV series is how they wanted them to
Speaker 2: be projected in real life as well, So she was
Speaker 2: trying to really cut a new identity for herself. At
Speaker 2: the same time, they did this breakout series called A
Speaker 2: Different World, which was kind of like The Cosby Show
Speaker 2: but reinvented, And she had started dating Lenny Krabatz, which
Speaker 2: is golf I May who didn't want to date. Oh,
Speaker 2: like he was the sex icon, but he wasn't famous
Speaker 2: at the time, so here was nothing. He was like
Speaker 2: like a bumbling musician, just still trying to get his
Speaker 2: stuff out there. So she started dating Lenny Krabatz and
Speaker 2: one of his big albums, she actually helped to co
Speaker 2: write that massive album and so she was like helping
Speaker 2: him and they were like this beautiful, like ethereal couple
Speaker 2: together living in the eighties, So she wrote.
Speaker 1: Some of Lenny Kravitz's album.
Speaker 2: Yes, should get credit for that? I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think royalties now, baby, I guess so, cause it an
Speaker 2: over until it's over, definitely.
Speaker 1: Over for you and my I mean is partnership, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Ifa it's me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for somebody who's like so private, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like she's dated these incredibly successful men, but when she
Speaker 1: started dating them, they weren't that successful.
Speaker 2: Like she was the powerful one, and in that relationship.
Speaker 1: She's the magic dust. She dates them and turns them
Speaker 1: into something famous. What is that she's the one?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean she ends up being the one. Actually
Speaker 2: was gonna say she's the one before the one, but.
Speaker 1: She's me, I am the one before the one.
Speaker 2: No, but she so like, she dates these guys and
Speaker 2: they're not particularly famous prior, and then as their relationship
Speaker 2: evolves and as they become more invested, he becomes more famous.
Speaker 2: So Lenny Krabitts is like he's son to kick some
Speaker 2: massive goals.
Speaker 1: How old is Lisa right now when she's with Lenny
Speaker 1: Kravitz and they're writing these things and they're in this relationship,
Speaker 1: how old is she?
Speaker 2: They got together so young. When they did actually get married,
Speaker 2: she was twenty years old. But you gotta remember at
Speaker 2: the time, she was still playing a teenager on the show,
Speaker 2: and Bill Cosby was really against her. Not only was
Speaker 2: he against her doing the spread in the magazine, he
Speaker 2: was against her marriage with Lenny Krabitts. He didn't want
Speaker 2: her to get married.
Speaker 1: Why because he thought that it would affect the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess because I kind of gave a
Speaker 2: bit of a different image Lisa was growing up in
Speaker 2: the world, but Denise wasn't supposed to be Lisa. Very
Speaker 2: shortly after getting married to Lenny Krabitts ended up getting pregnant.
Speaker 2: Denise ended up being written out of a different world
Speaker 2: during the duration that she was pregnant, because Bill Cosby
Speaker 2: was quoted saying Lisa might be pregnant, but Denise sure
Speaker 2: as hell isn't. And makes sense. Yeah, it does it though,
Speaker 2: because I feel like in today's day and age, like,
Speaker 2: don't you think that like a sitcom would probably like
Speaker 2: account for that. There'd be some scandal, maybe she hooked
Speaker 2: up with a high school boyfriend got pregnant, Like I
Speaker 2: feel like we would be more inclined to alter the
Speaker 2: script to allow for that. In today's sitcoms, sometimes.
Speaker 1: I was watching the show recently actually, where it was
Speaker 1: so obvious that the main character was heavily.
Speaker 2: She was just walking around in fucking momors. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: like of obviously the viewer, but she wasn't pregnant in
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: And it's obviously that the character in the show, because
Speaker 1: you can't just be like, oh, pregnant real life, Let's
Speaker 1: just make it pregnant because that changes the course of
Speaker 1: the whole entire show. Whereas if that's not what they
Speaker 1: have projected for the show, of course they're going to
Speaker 1: try and find a way around that. In the interroim,
Speaker 1: I can under say why Bill has thrown his hands
Speaker 1: up in the air and being like, you know, Denise
Speaker 1: is not pregnant, you can be pregnant, Go deal with it,
Speaker 1: come back and we'll put you back in.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I think it's a really controlling thing. I think it's
Speaker 2: like trying to control this perfect narrative, which is it's.
Speaker 1: Controlling to see TV series. Yess, it's controlling. But anyway,
Speaker 1: she went away and she had Zoe Kravitz. So Zoe
Speaker 1: Kravitz is her first baby, which the interesting part of
Speaker 1: this story is like around about this time, this is
Speaker 1: where Jason Momore comes in, even though he is wildly
Speaker 1: younger than what she is. Jason Momore was eight at
Speaker 1: the time, watching.
Speaker 2: The Cookie Show eight. He was eight, and he was
Speaker 2: watching TV at home with his mom, like you know,
Speaker 2: sitting at home watching TV, watching Lisa Bonnet on TV.
Speaker 4: And he was like, ever since I was like eight
Speaker 4: years old and I saw it on a TV and
Speaker 4: I was like, Mommy, I want that one.
Speaker 2: And he has this huge crush on her as a
Speaker 2: movie star when he's eight years old.
Speaker 1: I'm all for some manifestation. You know that he manifested
Speaker 1: that from eight years old. I'm here for that he did.
Speaker 2: He totally did so in total, even though they were
Speaker 2: really so young when they got together. Lenny Krabatz and
Speaker 2: Lisa Bonnet were together for around six or seven years,
Speaker 2: and obviously when they say together, I mean they were
Speaker 2: married for six or seven years. Their relationship came to
Speaker 2: an end, and it was like it was a really
Speaker 2: publicly heartbreaking end to their relationship because they were such
Speaker 2: epic couple goals together.
Speaker 1: Well, I know there were rumors of infidelity with Lenny
Speaker 1: and Lisa towards the end of their relationship because purely
Speaker 1: because they moved on quickly. He said that his father
Speaker 1: had like up and left his family when Lenny was young,
Speaker 1: and he said that had a really profound impact on him.
Speaker 2: Now, even though the marriage broke down, they still managed
Speaker 2: to maintain this incredible friendship. And the reason why this
Speaker 2: is so important is because, like when Jason Momore comes
Speaker 2: into the picture, there is this wildly lovely, blended family
Speaker 2: thing that's going on that you would only see in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: They're all best friends. They're all best friend.
Speaker 1: Lenny and Lisa actually stayed like best friends for the
Speaker 1: sake I mean, they loved each other, but for the
Speaker 1: sake of their daughter as well. So I love that
Speaker 1: he didn't let his father impacting that much.
Speaker 4: Total.
Speaker 1: He said it played on his mind, but he still
Speaker 1: wanted to, I guess do the opposite to be like,
Speaker 1: fuck your dad, I'm going to maintain a really beautiful
Speaker 1: family life. Okay, So talking about Jason Momoa for a
Speaker 1: little while, maybe you should just refer to him as
Speaker 1: Man Mountain or Hall Past Hall Pass like literally is
Speaker 1: like a human rock climbing wall. I went and when
Speaker 1: you see like Lisa Benet is so little next to him.
Speaker 1: It's just like leaves a lot to the imagination. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what was Hall Past doing at this time? Who
Speaker 1: was in nineteen ninety nine?
Speaker 2: Jason Momore was relatively unknown actor, like he wanted to
Speaker 2: be an actor, but he wasn't really doing a hell
Speaker 2: of a lot. He did debut one Baywatch Hawaii like
Speaker 2: that was his break at the time, and when he
Speaker 2: I remember, well, you do you Waii?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: I was a Baywatch fan. The women were beautiful, the
Speaker 1: men were beautiful. People drowned and they got saved. It
Speaker 1: was like that was the plot every time. It was brilliant.
Speaker 1: There was always a fire. Do you remember Jason Momore
Speaker 1: from this though, from the nineties, Yes, but I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I remember him on there, but I didn't know as
Speaker 1: an adult, I didn't put him together. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that the same Game of Thrones person was Baywatch. I
Speaker 1: just thought they were two hot people. So when he
Speaker 1: was on the series, he met an actress. Her name
Speaker 1: is Simone McKinnon, right, and they dated for a little
Speaker 1: while and became engaged.
Speaker 2: She's an Aussie, isn't she. She's a naisy and She's
Speaker 2: also seven years older than him as well, so he
Speaker 2: has itventially for the older ladies. Also, can I just
Speaker 2: ask you now, can I interrupt this story for a second.
Speaker 1: I know he's your hall pass, but because you're taken,
Speaker 1: if one day he wanted to hook up.
Speaker 2: With me, would you let me? Yes, I would encourage
Speaker 2: it aheartedly. That's what friends do. So he gets engaged
Speaker 2: at this time. He actually gets engaged in two thousand
Speaker 2: and four. Now him and Simone have plans to get
Speaker 2: married in two thousand and seven, right, so they'd go
Speaker 2: way way. Why was it three years away? Maybe there
Speaker 2: was a COVID or something happening then. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I'm locking down for three years but totally Well,
Speaker 2: maybe she should have because in the meantime, and this
Speaker 2: is a part of the story that people seem to
Speaker 2: forget because Jason Momoa and Lisa Bene have like the
Speaker 2: best meet cute right, Like their story about how they
Speaker 2: met is adorable. However, the part of the some people
Speaker 2: forget to mention is that Jason Memole was fucking engaged
Speaker 2: at the time and had a soon to be white.
Speaker 1: Super cute if he wasn't engaged, so what was this
Speaker 1: super cute meet cute that happened whilst he was engaged.
Speaker 2: So they actually meet at a bar via some mutual friends,
Speaker 2: and let me set this scene for you. They're like
Speaker 2: literal carbon copies of each other. They're both got dreadlocks,
Speaker 2: They're both these ethereal beauties in a jazz bar. I mean,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that Jason Momol was like twice a size,
Speaker 2: she's up to like his nipple. Yeah, but whatever, but
Speaker 2: that's the same same anyway, Apparently they're both in this
Speaker 2: bar and he turns around and he sees his childhood crush,
Speaker 2: which is Lisa Berna And get this. She says, I'm Lisa,
Speaker 2: and Jason's like fireworks go off inside him, but he
Speaker 2: tries to play it cool, and then he says, oh, hey, Lisa, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with your work, just completely trying to play
Speaker 2: it off. He's thinking to himself, I basically never want
Speaker 2: this night to end. So he says to her, what
Speaker 2: if you give me a ride back to my hotel?
Speaker 2: And it's all a very casual request, but we all
Speaker 2: know what a ride back to your hotel means. But well, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's thinking, yeah, I'll give you a ride, bunny. Anyway,
Speaker 2: she's taking him home and clearly neither of them want
Speaker 2: the night to end. So Lisa says, I feel like
Speaker 2: a nightcap.
Speaker 1: Should we maybe stop for one more drink? And well
Speaker 1: it would be rude not to, Okay, So then what happens?
Speaker 2: So they go inside the second bar, which, like, as
Speaker 2: as an aside image, imagine being in a bar and
Speaker 2: two people as beautiful as Jason Momoa and Lisa Bennet
Speaker 2: walk in with matching dreadlocks. Anyway, so they go in
Speaker 2: and Jason, who literally cannot believe that he's having literally
Speaker 2: the night of his life with his unrequired celebrity childhood crush,
Speaker 2: maybe even his hall pass Lisa Bennet, He's about to
Speaker 2: be flowed once again because Lisa walks up to the
Speaker 2: bar and she's like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Casually here with this twenty something year old man Mountain
Speaker 1: and what I'd really like is a Guinness.
Speaker 2: And it's at this point that Jason Momoa is like.
Speaker 3: You fucking kidding me, Lisa Bene my childhood celebrity crush.
Speaker 2: Are you not aways standing for saving in this bar
Speaker 2: in the middle of New York City? You just ordered
Speaker 2: my favorite beer and yeah, so it's like destiny.
Speaker 1: From that moment on, their lives are entwined, except for
Speaker 1: the fiancee that he's got home, except for.
Speaker 2: The minor technicality, guys, minu. So this happens in two
Speaker 2: thousand and four. This is where things get spicy. So
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four, Jason Momoa meets Lisa Bene.
Speaker 2: They have both since that meeting and now that they
Speaker 2: have been a happy couple for many, many years, talked
Speaker 2: about how the relationship blossomed very quickly. He said he
Speaker 2: fell in love with her pretty much straight away. She
Speaker 2: says it took a little bit more time for her,
Speaker 2: but you know, the relationship moved quickly. Sorry.
Speaker 1: He has since admitted to being in love with someone
Speaker 1: else whilst engaged to Simon. Yeah, but the dates don't
Speaker 1: match up because I feel like this declaration of love
Speaker 1: came out many years after Simon and Jason split in
Speaker 1: December of two thousand and six, and then Lisa and
Speaker 1: Jason's first child was born in July, which do the maths, people,
Speaker 1: that is a seven month incubation for that child. That okay,
Speaker 1: So even if even if they had sex for the
Speaker 1: first time on the day that he split up with
Speaker 1: his fiance Simon. They still would have had to form
Speaker 1: pregnant on that day and had a baby two months
Speaker 1: early for him to not have cheated. But it's really, Oh, look,
Speaker 1: you're coming to his defense because you're loving him.
Speaker 2: I can see what's happening. No, it's also he was
Speaker 2: very young. I mean, I'm not gonna say, Twitter, God,
Speaker 2: the guy's twenty four. Man, We've all made mistakes when
Speaker 2: we were twenty four. I think that I don't think
Speaker 2: and subscribe to this like once a cheater, always a
Speaker 2: cheater situation, ha ha. Although I do think it's interesting
Speaker 2: how Lisa has since come out and she speaks such
Speaker 2: beautiful volumes of him as a father, his commitment to
Speaker 2: their relationship, how he was like he is the perfect
Speaker 2: form of masculinity, and how he's been so dedicated to
Speaker 2: them and really like amped up that he's not someone
Speaker 2: who would ever cheat. Well, I mean, let's.
Speaker 1: Play devil's advocate for a hot second. I'll go on, maybe,
Speaker 1: and I'm giving him the benefit of doubt.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know what happens in the public eye.
Speaker 1: Maybe they split actually earlier, but they didn't publicly announce
Speaker 1: it because quite often that happens, you know, quite often
Speaker 1: we split early.
Speaker 2: We want to deal with things on our own. We've
Speaker 2: all been there. You haven't, but I have.
Speaker 1: We've all been there where you take your time before
Speaker 1: you publicly announce it. And they're really famous, they're not
Speaker 1: going to split them the next day say hey we split,
Speaker 1: So Devil's Advocate maybe him and someone have split. They
Speaker 1: don't publicly announce it for a while, so maybe they're
Speaker 1: maybe there wasn't actually crossover, but it's made to look
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that there was still over I don't
Speaker 2: think there was necessarily pregnancy overlap this. Sure, maybe it
Speaker 2: took some time to but this is two thousand and
Speaker 2: four to two. That's two years. I don't think you're
Speaker 2: going to hide, especially if he's progressed a relationship with Lisa.
Speaker 2: We'll never know.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll ask him when I hook up with
Speaker 1: every we can spa. But also gonna remember at this
Speaker 1: time as well, Jason Moore was a relative nobody. Like
Speaker 1: he was twenty four, he just come off the back
Speaker 1: of Baywatch, but he was still a bit of a nobody.
Speaker 2: No, he was, he was known, but he was only
Speaker 2: known for his abs. Yeah, I mean not because he
Speaker 2: was a good or talented actor. No one knew his
Speaker 2: name about it. Is he even known now because he's
Speaker 2: a good talented actor. Is it still just for his ebbs?
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, though, considering his action abilities and Rotten
Speaker 1: Tomato's the sixty percent, No, they're not. But considering he's
Speaker 1: no Hugh Jackman, he has turned into an absolute superstar.
Speaker 2: And I am questioning why so when they met, he
Speaker 2: was a relative nobody and then his fame skyrocketed. Obviously
Speaker 2: he was casting Game of Thrones, which was like that
Speaker 2: thrust him into the limelight. But also Lisa came out
Speaker 2: and said he wasn't famous when I met him. And
Speaker 2: there is a current theme here, and she's referring back
Speaker 2: to Lenny Krabatz, who obvious calm, She's like, what I
Speaker 2: am the current theme?
Speaker 1: She's like, I might not be that famous anymore, but
Speaker 1: fuck everyone I date seems to get famous. She wrote,
Speaker 1: what's cool about Jason is that he is an alpha
Speaker 1: male who stands for love and family. And to circle
Speaker 1: back to my own wounds having an absent father, then
Speaker 1: to be fully met by a man of that stature
Speaker 1: is really incredible. Jason Embodi is a rare form of
Speaker 1: masculinity in this day and age.
Speaker 2: He is a leader. He is generous just in terms
Speaker 2: of his charisma, physique, the right use of power and responsibility.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting that a lot of Lisa's quotes are
Speaker 1: all about how big he is. That like that was
Speaker 1: a themist. She just liked that he was big and masculine.
Speaker 1: And I guess even she said herself he might have
Speaker 1: felled like this weird daddy role.
Speaker 2: I also do think it's interesting though, So I mean,
Speaker 2: he dated Simon Law, was engaged to Simone. She was
Speaker 2: seven years his senior. Now Lisa Benet is actually thirteen
Speaker 2: years his senior, which I hate as a woman, Like
Speaker 2: I hate that we're like, oh, so scandalous he's dating up.
Speaker 2: But like, it's so acceptable for a man to date
Speaker 2: a woman who's thirteen years younger, especially in Hollywood. Fuck,
Speaker 2: look at Leonardo DiCaprio. He will date women who are
Speaker 2: recorded his age. But why is it so scandalous or
Speaker 2: such a big piece of news when a guy dates
Speaker 2: upwards and thirteen years is not a big gap when
Speaker 2: the genders are reversed.
Speaker 1: No, But I think it's a big but it has
Speaker 1: more relevance and it's a bit stranger when you're young,
Speaker 1: So age gaps the older you get get more acceptable.
Speaker 1: But when you're only nineteen and twenty, it's different. When
Speaker 1: you're only a twenty year old man dating up, it's
Speaker 1: different to when you're a thirty year old man in
Speaker 1: dating up.
Speaker 2: And it shouldn't be, but it is. And he was
Speaker 2: so young at the time, And I guess it's a
Speaker 2: generational thing, right, Like the longer the gap, Like if
Speaker 2: it's more than a ten year gap, I guess that
Speaker 2: you're of slightly different times.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Maybe this plays into a bit of their personality types
Speaker 2: and it could be a good time to unpack their
Speaker 2: like their individual characteristics. Lisa Bennet is quite a she's
Speaker 2: quite a private, she's quite a sensitive. She's very much
Speaker 2: into energies. All of the interviews I've read she's talking
Speaker 2: about energies and yoga. She's a she's like a real
Speaker 2: modern day hippie and I mean like I mean like
Speaker 2: the type of hippies that you people try to be
Speaker 2: when they're in like living in Bairon or living in Bondi,
Speaker 2: except like she's the genuine, legit version of this. She's
Speaker 2: not like doing cocaine and on social media on a Saturday,
Speaker 2: but like living like a hashtag zen life throughout the week.
Speaker 2: She lives with two wolves slash malamute dogs that they
Speaker 2: certainly she's got two wolves. She has a donkey. She
Speaker 2: lives like an hour outside of La out in the
Speaker 2: hills with Jason, like she's created this. She calls it
Speaker 2: her sanctuary, like she's a very mother Earth. Whereas Jason,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, as much as he sort of
Speaker 2: fits that hippie vibe, he's like a real outgoing personality type,
Speaker 2: like he loves He's an extrovert. He loves the attention
Speaker 2: and the spotlight and being like very forward facing. So
Speaker 2: why his career is going up and up and up.
Speaker 2: Hers is kind of taking a bit more of a
Speaker 2: backseat to a quieter, more private life in this time.
Speaker 1: So do you think that this is why they split
Speaker 1: up because they're in two different stages of their life.
Speaker 1: Do you think coming full circle, their age difference has
Speaker 1: It wasn't a problem at the start, but do you
Speaker 1: think the age difference now and the different places that
Speaker 1: are in life is a cause of the breakup, like
Speaker 1: maybe he wanted to be more in the spotlight and
Speaker 1: keep filming and be really busy and she wants to
Speaker 1: settle down and have a quiet life because she is
Speaker 1: fifty four.
Speaker 2: Before we get into fully breaking down their relationship and
Speaker 2: where it is at now or where it isn't at now,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to touch on the fact that they
Speaker 2: go on to have two children. So originally they had
Speaker 2: their first daughter, which was Lola, and then they went
Speaker 2: on to have another child two years later named nicoa Wolf.
Speaker 2: Now also in their family is Zoe Krabatts, the first
Speaker 2: child that she had had with Lenny. And when we
Speaker 2: touched on before and said that they live this like
Speaker 2: happy Brady Bunch family, I'm talking like Lenny and Jason
Speaker 2: Momoa are best friends, cute Jason Momoa being the stepfather
Speaker 2: to Zoe, like they have matching tattoos, because they're all
Speaker 2: just this one beautiful, little like Hollywood make believe fairytale family.
Speaker 1: And was a little bit like people might think I'm
Speaker 1: weird by saying this, but it almost looks like Zoe
Speaker 1: and Jason could have been a couple, like in terms
Speaker 1: of they could really because they look like they'd be
Speaker 1: a beautiful couple. They look closer in age. It looks
Speaker 1: like it's something that could work. So I think from
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, the whole thing is just a
Speaker 1: little bit strange. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I loved it. They're a blended family that get along
Speaker 1: and everyone loves each other.
Speaker 2: I think that's really beautiful. And I guess, like everything
Speaker 2: that I have seen about them, every single comment, every
Speaker 2: single interview, like everybody loves them as a couple, like
Speaker 2: they are the most wholesome family and wholesome pair. And
Speaker 2: there has been like a little bit of controversy surrounding
Speaker 2: Jason Momoa with some things and jokes that he has
Speaker 2: made in the past. So it was at a Comic
Speaker 2: Con event in twenty seventeen and Jason Momoa was talking
Speaker 2: about his role doing fantasy on Games of Thrones and
Speaker 2: this is what he said.
Speaker 4: But as far as fantasy, I love that Caenra just
Speaker 4: that there's so many things you can do, like grip
Speaker 4: someone's tongue out of their throat and get away with it,
Speaker 4: and great beautiful women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I just think someone who is
Speaker 2: a dad who has young girls, like where does that
Speaker 2: come from the guy copped a lot of hate and
Speaker 2: he had to come out and do a public apology,
Speaker 2: but it just really didn't mesh. And maybe the media
Speaker 2: reported on it differently, but the grab is there, like
Speaker 2: the words came out of his mouth, this was a
Speaker 2: public conference. It doesn't match up with the Jason momole
Speaker 2: we're presented, not at all, not by any means. So,
Speaker 2: despite this one, and I feel like it is just
Speaker 2: the one where his character was kind of brought into question,
Speaker 2: they overcame that as a couple and then they really
Speaker 2: sort of re cemented themselves once again as this incredible
Speaker 2: ethereal power couple that were just absolute goals creating and
Speaker 2: maintaining the most beautifully blended family where everyone loves and
Speaker 2: supports each other and everybody is best friends up until
Speaker 2: this year. Dun, Dun, Dun, what happened? Jason Momoa released
Speaker 2: a joint statement with Lisa because obviously she's off social media,
Speaker 2: and it said, we have all felt the squeeze and
Speaker 2: changes of these transformational times. A revolution is unfolding, and.
Speaker 1: Our family is of no exception feeling and growing for
Speaker 1: the seismic shifts occurring, and so we share our family news.
Speaker 2: It sounds like they're about to have a fucking baby.
Speaker 2: That we are parting ways in marriage. We share this
Speaker 2: not because we think it's newsworthy, but so that as
Speaker 2: we go about our lives, we may do so with
Speaker 2: dignity and honesty. The love between us carries on evolving
Speaker 2: in ways it wishes to be known and lived. We
Speaker 2: free each other to be who we are learning to become.
Speaker 2: Our devotion unwavering to this sacred life, and our children,
Speaker 2: teaching our children what's possible living the prayer may love prevail.
Speaker 2: Jay and l.
Speaker 1: Lolkane like, so you split off the mushrooms like they
Speaker 1: just had a weekend on LSD And then they were like,
Speaker 1: it is definitely giving me Gwyneth Paltrow conscious un coupling vibes,
Speaker 1: like that is what it is giving me, but that
Speaker 1: Gwyneth Pultron steroids.
Speaker 2: It's almost not enough, Like I want enough?
Speaker 4: What more you want?
Speaker 3: Woman?
Speaker 1: I don't need any more of that trupy paragraph Like
Speaker 1: you broke up, you still care for each other the end.
Speaker 2: I feel like they've gone to still have.
Speaker 1: Done some au oscar for the weekend, and they've come
Speaker 1: back and written this and then just recently, Jason Momoa
Speaker 1: deleted this statement off his Instagram, so he's come back
Speaker 1: from his trip he's realized maybe she's like, suck, we.
Speaker 2: Are actually still together. There's been a lot of speculation
Speaker 2: obviously they had consciously uncoupled. But I feel like when.
Speaker 1: People I don't say that, I can't take you seriously
Speaker 1: consciously uncopplied split up. Like imagine if you and Jordan
Speaker 1: broke up and you were like, we consciously uncuffled, we
Speaker 1: parted well, Well, I meant every breakup is a conscious uncoupling,
Speaker 1: unless one person is denying the breakup, unless one person's like.
Speaker 2: I guess that's a thing.
Speaker 1: Though every couple is not a conscious uncoupling. Like, I
Speaker 1: get what Gwyneth was saying. She's trying to say that
Speaker 1: we are together amicably deciding to go our separate ways,
Speaker 1: which is what they're saying, because it's not they're not
Speaker 1: all conscious uncoupling. Some people are like, please don't fuck
Speaker 1: leave me, Like that is not a conscious uncoupling.
Speaker 2: This makes it sound like that they've never ever had
Speaker 2: a fight and they just woke up one day and went,
Speaker 2: you're a great person, but we should maybe just spend
Speaker 2: some time apart. I mean, maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 1: They do seem pretty hippie tripping and in love. Maybe
Speaker 1: they were just like the love's not there.
Speaker 2: Do you know what is very breakup vibes well the
Speaker 2: fact that after they broke up, he went and bought
Speaker 2: a motor home and did like live out of my
Speaker 2: van life hashtag van life all over social media, and
Speaker 2: I'm just sure.
Speaker 1: He can afford a hotel or an airbnb.
Speaker 2: No. It literally had like gold plating blinding inside. But
Speaker 2: I figured out house trying to emulate that you're a hippie,
Speaker 2: you can't really drive around in a seven hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollar motor home and have hashtag kippie lives.
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, there's one
Speaker 1: thing we can really take away from that, and.
Speaker 2: It's that Jason Momoa is a mountain of man that
Speaker 2: Laura Burn wants to climb.
Speaker 1: To know is that you cannot dream too big. If
Speaker 1: you are a nine year old in your house and
Speaker 1: you were perving on someone on the TV, you want
Speaker 1: to marry them.
Speaker 2: You go out there and you get them.
Speaker 1: Because Jason Momoa is a prime example that you can
Speaker 1: do whatever the hell you want.
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