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Speaker 1: It's a special Willaan Woody podcast Mini.

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Speaker 2: One of our favorite people is in the studio right now.

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Speaker 2: Martha from Maps, Martha Califatitas, our fairy God Martha.

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Speaker 1: Hey me, fairy God Martha. How many boys should I

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Speaker 1: have on my roster? What red flag should I look

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Speaker 1: out for? How do long distance relationships work?

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Speaker 3: In the studio here to answer our questions, Yes, now, Martha.

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Speaker 2: One of the things we were talking about just before,

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Speaker 2: you were saying that your boyfriend Michael is a sensitive guy.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that I think, funnily enough,

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Speaker 2: and this is something that you can relate to, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I are in Sydney at the moment filming this show

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Speaker 2: Celebrity Apprentice and the show that you were on last year.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things we've come up against, which

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Speaker 2: is really interesting is obviously the guy who.

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Speaker 4: Runs the show is a guy called Lord Sugar.

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Speaker 2: He's a billionaire, he's an incredible confidence.

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Speaker 4: What was that noise? What was that noise about?

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Speaker 2: Like, Oh, yeah, he's confrontational. He's a man's man, right,

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't stand for guys who have got any

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Speaker 2: sort of like chink in the arm.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, no way no way.

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Speaker 3: He's old school, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And do know we're talking about this the other day, Like,

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Speaker 2: this guy, he's amazing to watch how he operates.

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Speaker 3: He's obviously very successful.

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Speaker 2: But I think that one of the reasons that we've

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Speaker 2: got so many issues with dude's health at the moment

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Speaker 2: is because men don't.

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Speaker 3: Feel they feel like they have to be like that.

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Speaker 3: They feel like they have to be hard working, very successful.

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Speaker 2: They feel like they can't actually open up about how

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Speaker 2: they're feeling. But you said something to me before, which

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Speaker 2: I think is going to help a lot of guys,

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Speaker 2: particularly from someone like you.

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Speaker 3: You said that sensitive is sexy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like my boyfriend Michael is so sensitive. But I love

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Speaker 1: that about him. It's like my favorite thing about him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it just shows how much he cares. And I

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Speaker 1: think there's nothing wrong with being sensitive if you're a man, Like,

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Speaker 1: why would you want to be anything other? Why would

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Speaker 1: you not want to be sensitive?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it must be frustrating for women that are

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Speaker 2: in relationships with guys and they don't cry in front.

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Speaker 1: Of it, but they probably are sensitive, they just don't

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Speaker 1: show it. That's the thing. Because going back to Lord Sugar,

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Speaker 1: you know, than he is like the most generous boss

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Speaker 1: to everyone that works for him. Like down, he has

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Speaker 1: a heart. Yes, he's super generous, but he never shows

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Speaker 1: that an expression. But he is a dinosaur, so he's

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Speaker 1: like he's of a different generation.

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Speaker 5: There's still this idea though, and men think this, and

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Speaker 5: it's ingrained in it from a very young age that

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Speaker 5: being vulnerable and being sensitive is weak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, I think it's not only that. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things, like even skincare for example. Even

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Speaker 1: for example, right, let's just say, like, you know, you

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Speaker 1: turn thirty as a man, you want to start using skincare,

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Speaker 1: but like you can't because like it's feminine. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: going to like be going to the pub and being like, mate,

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Speaker 1: what I creamy using these days? I'm never going to

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Speaker 1: do that. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 5: I was embarrassed because I actually do care about skincare,

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Speaker 5: and I was embarrassed to show my partner that. And

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Speaker 5: I used to hide away the products I had because

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Speaker 5: I didn't want her seeing that because again, that wasn't

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Speaker 5: the archetypal male exactly, and I thought she would see that, but.

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Speaker 4: She loved it. You're into this, This is incredible. Can

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Speaker 4: I use your ceremony. I was like, get your own.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, it's the way to bond.

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Speaker 5: But really weirdly, when I get like on a big

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Speaker 5: night out these days, it's really weird because if my

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Speaker 5: mate's girlfriends talk, and then I'll have maids walk up

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Speaker 5: to me at like two am and they'll be like, dude, what.

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Speaker 4: Skin carry using the only time they've got the confidence

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Speaker 4: to do it?

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Speaker 3: And you get drunk with your mates.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I don't want to talk about it, but

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Speaker 5: my mates will finally walk up to me and they'll.

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Speaker 4: Be like, mate, what moisturize? What moisturize? Using an? Often

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 4: Is amazing?

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Speaker 1: See, guys, you know what the thing in common is

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Speaker 1: is when you get drunk, you also get emotional and

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Speaker 1: sensitive with your mates. And it's because you're uninhibited. And

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Speaker 1: so I guess steep down guys. All guys are sensitive.

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Speaker 1: They just don't have you know, the faculty. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: just don't. I don't want to say the balls to

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Speaker 1: show it because then that would be like going into that.

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Speaker 4: But that's good.

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Speaker 3: That's I think the irony in that statement is spot on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think as a man, it would take

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Speaker 1: so much courage should just be like, yep, like I'm sensitive.

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Speaker 1: That's hurt my feelings or I'm upset or I don't

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Speaker 1: like that or makes me feel shit when you do this,

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Speaker 1: like it's not easy to be sensitive.

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Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's.

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Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent trip, particularly being brought up your

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Speaker 2: whole life being told to being sensitive is weak.

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Speaker 3: That's a very old and grain behave your pattern.

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Speaker 5: And we regret it too. So the drunken not out.

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Speaker 5: When you do start crying with your mate and I just.

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Speaker 4: Love you so much. The next day you're just like,

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Speaker 4: oh my.

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Speaker 2: I never want to see him again, but you'll still

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Speaker 2: text him by that how much the new skincare rage

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 3: Give us sware House.

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Speaker 2: We've got more with Martha Calventina's right up next, our

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Speaker 2: fairy Godmartha.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about Pete Davidson, So don't go anyway.

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Speaker 1: God, Yes, Pete Davidson.

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Speaker 3: Martha for a maths our fairy God Martha is in

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Speaker 3: the studio with us.

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Speaker 1: Now me, fairy God Martha. How many boys should I

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Speaker 1: have on my roster?

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Speaker 4: What red flag should I look out for?

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Speaker 1: How to long distance relationships work?

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Speaker 4: She's in the with the boys for the first time.

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Speaker 3: I say always on the phone, it's so nice to

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Speaker 3: have you in personally, nice to be here.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, glory as to find introing me

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Speaker 1: is everything, Doctor B.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great anyway, So.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, you deserve impressed.

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Speaker 3: The glorious fun is So that's awesome. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: get down to it.

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Speaker 2: I should say, the reason we get Martha in is

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Speaker 2: there's a few topics that you know, we try to

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Speaker 2: figure out these topics as too guys, but at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, we need a female perspective. And

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Speaker 2: this is something we definitely need a female aspective on

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Speaker 2: woods because you and I have been bouncing the ball

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Speaker 2: about this topic for a few weeks now.

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Speaker 3: We're no closer to it.

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Speaker 2: We don't understand it, but a couple of men's trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out what's sexy about another man is often

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Speaker 2: just fraught with danger.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't crack it, but Martha. The man we're

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Speaker 4: talking about is Pete Davidson.

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Speaker 6: It's official. Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson are dating. Source

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Speaker 6: close to Kim tells in News that they're keeping up

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Speaker 6: with the Kardashian star and Saturday Night Live comedian are

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Speaker 6: taking their friendship to the next level.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to just come straight out here and

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Speaker 1: say number one, Yeah, like, we don't know if this

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Speaker 1: is true. Information is only as valuable as its source,

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Speaker 1: and what is the source? TMC Daily Mail has never

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Speaker 1: ever written one true fact in the entire time that

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Speaker 1: The Daily Mail has existed.

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Speaker 4: That's their motto, never tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: But no, did you see the video of them.

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Speaker 4: They were holding hands in a hands.

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Speaker 1: For one second and then unheld them. They walked up

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Speaker 3: Didn't they make out on Saturday Night Live?

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Speaker 1: Though? No, they kissed for the skit though it was

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Speaker 4: That was a skit, So you don't think they're together.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it could all be part

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Speaker 1: And I think it could be a massive publicity stunt

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Speaker 1: and then they'll reveal it on the show that it's

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Speaker 4: Stunt, right, and it's working everyone's.

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Speaker 1: Talking about them. But then I have another theory, like

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Speaker 4: In the headlines. And you think Kim goes, I'm sick

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Speaker 4: of not being the headlines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I need some of that.

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Speaker 4: So that would be a reason to hook up with

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Speaker 1: Megan Fox, Machine Gun, Kelli, Cravis, I mean, Travis and Courtney,

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Speaker 1: Like they are the couples right now everyone, no one

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Speaker 1: you know, she's spotlight. She's the influence of the number

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Speaker 1: many years now. I don't think she's ready, especially now

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Speaker 1: that her and Kanye are like, you know, splitting up all.

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Speaker 3: She's off the radar.

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Speaker 1: The funniest thing is is like Kanye keeps going out

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Speaker 1: I haven't even seen the papers. Like he keeps coming

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Speaker 3: With so you think she's just scrambling to stay relevant.

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Speaker 1: No, Look, I think that the Pete Davidson thing might

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Speaker 1: be a publicity stunt, and I think Kanye would know

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Speaker 1: about it. That's why she's so blatantly obviously like just

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Speaker 1: it for a while. Okay, she's got four kids to Kanye, like,

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Speaker 2: She can't Just can I get down to the sticking

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 2: It's all very interesting? Yeah, why is Pete Davidson attractive?

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Speaker 2: Because whether or not he's dating Kim Kardashian or not,

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Speaker 2: he was previously with Ariana Grande, So.

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Speaker 4: Why why what is it about that he is?

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Speaker 1: He like literally just is himself, you know, and he

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Speaker 1: he's not ever trying to put it on. He's never

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Speaker 1: trying to force anything. You can tell, Like even every

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Speaker 1: job that he does, you can tell like he wants

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Speaker 1: to be there. He's not like just doing it for

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Speaker 1: any other reason. He just seems confident, funny, down to

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Speaker 1: earth like, you know, and from a looks perspective, apparently

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Speaker 1: he's got a huge Yeah then that's what.

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Speaker 4: Arianna Arianna Grande said he had BD.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's one thing. But then she said it was many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it, And that's also why he's dated

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Speaker 1: like it was hot analogy.

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Speaker 5: Is there that much of an appeal though, So you

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Speaker 5: just found out someone has a thumper and then it's

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Speaker 5: just like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what the.

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Speaker 4: Great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Mother.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming in the studio. It's

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Speaker 3: been so good to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's been fun. We should do it again.

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Speaker 3: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know you want to