1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk sport. Ryan Den that morning. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, how are we going good? 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 3: I guess we start with ross Lyon. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: We do start with ross Lyne because Saint Kilda are 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: restarting with ross Line. I mean it's imminent now, right. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: We heard those grabs from him in the news. Just 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: there his heart from me. His heart has been opened 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: this wow, yeah, opened from the least nostro damis Lisa. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: And I don't think it was any great secret. But 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 4: I think the thing is that it was already a 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 4: done deal. This hasn't just happened this week, and I 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 4: don't believe that that's what they. 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: Want to say. 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Coaching search a charade, right surely? 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, not. I mean that's a search then it's coaches. 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: It was acting. 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: This isn't like when a prospector gets lost in the 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: outback and you spend six weeks looking for the guy. 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: He knew. You knew when you when you went into 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: this search, it was going to be ross Line. It's 21 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: fascinating to me though, because remember how he left. 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Yes, like it was brutal, clandestine meetings. 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, behind the scenes, in the middle of the night, 24 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: complete shock to everybody had this weird clause in his 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: contract that apparently he didn't even know about until the 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: last minute, which gave him a chance to exit Saint 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Kilda at his own will sign with Freemantle for huge 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: money on a long deal that wasn't being quite offered 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: at the time from Saint Kilda, and he left that 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: club in disarray. They've never really recovered. I mean, he 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: was a very good coach for them, He got him 32 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: too multiple Grand finals, so then bringing him back. It 33 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: feels like people have described it to me this week 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: as it's like, you know, getting back with your ex, 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: and I'm like, kind of, but like if your ex 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: like had it off with your neighbor in your bed 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: and then took a dump on the carpet on the 38 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: way out. But this is not just any ex girlfriend 39 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: or like, this is a disaster. Yeah, Like and you're 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: going back to this person and saying this is fine, 41 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: it's okay, how you treated me eleven years ago, come back, 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: come back, this is great, let's do it again. So 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: you dump. 44 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 45 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he can coach, though my next question is can 46 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: he still coach because the way Rosslyne coached football was 47 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: you know, shut it down, really tight checking stuff, defensive footy, 48 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: ugly duckling stuff. Remember from the Swans when he was 49 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: an assistant there and took that to Fremantle and Saint Kilda. 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: That type of football doesn't win games anymore. We've seen 51 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: Geelong and Richmond and these. It's more this sort of fast, 52 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: helter skelter like take the game on stuff. So he's 53 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: going to have to shift his whole philosophy. 54 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: Well, my question is. 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: How many players that were there then are still there now? 56 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: And what are the players going to think of him? 57 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: I don't think the be anyot's Sin Kilda that were 58 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 2: there when he was coaching, No, there'd be none. Oh 59 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: there's folk. So what tends to happen with Ross Lease 60 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: is the first couple of years everyone jumps on board 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: because he's a good motivator and he's got all these 62 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: great saying, you know, Cobbler's doing cobbling and swallows and 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: summers his heart opening up. But he exhausts players. So 64 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: basically he gets one hundred and ten percent out of 65 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: these guys. They will go and jump in front of 66 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: a bus for him, but it starts to wear thin. 67 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: At some point the exhaustion kicks in. Maybe throughout a 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: season that by the time they get to finals they're 69 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: a little worn down. So the first couple of years 70 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: you might see a little jump from Saint Kilda in 71 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: terms of, hey, you know, we believe, but is it 72 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: sustainable and is that game style sustainable? So a lot 73 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: of his players, particularly the stars, they love it and 74 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: they rave about him in some of the rock players. 75 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: But he made so many Grand Finals and one of 76 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 5: them was a red because of the draw. 77 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a. 78 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: Team with Ree Walton, Lenny and God and they didn't 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 5: win a flag when they should have been twenty ten. Yeah, 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: people go, he can't and you didn't get across the line. 81 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Did It's funny because I agree with you. But then 82 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: if you look back on each of those games specifically, 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: I mean the drawn one was that that long ago, Yeah, 84 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: and remember the ball with Steven Milnow running to goal 85 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: and it kind of just bounced the wrong way. The 86 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: ball just bounces normally that it's over and he's won 87 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: a flag. And then in the year the other one 88 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: was when Tom Hawkins kicked that goal that was actually 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: your point. Yes again you swing that suddenly you got two. 90 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: And then that Docors Grand Final, I reckon. Most people 91 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: have forgotten that they were just in that game close. 92 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: They should have won that game. They kicked themselves out 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: of it. There's a world where ross Line's a three 94 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: time premiership coach and well he never even left sin 95 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: Killer in the first place. So you know it's easy 96 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: to say, well he keeps failing at that hurdle, but win. 97 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: He's been unlucky in that space too, so anyway. 98 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: Lucky, we'll see what happens. Ross is back another Eagles. 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Time is done. 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Zach Langdon. He's played twenty five games in 101 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: a few years. This was a bit of a weird 102 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: one because yesterday the announced he's no longer on the 103 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 2: senior list. He's got a year to run on his contract, 104 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: so they'll have to negotiate out of that. Somehow they'll 105 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: have to pay him or that comes some sort of arrangement. 106 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: But he is now the along with Jackson Nelson, Patrick Nace, 107 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: Hugh Dixon, Tom Joyce, Langdon is now that can I count? 108 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: That's five guys who have been delisted. There's some chance 109 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: Langdon goes back on a rookie list, but it's a 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: very slight chance. You added Reddin and Kennedy's retirements and 111 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: really leaving. That's eight departures all up, which is probably 112 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: about the number they needed. 113 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: To hit, So making some space. 114 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to bring in draft picks. Basically, they 115 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: want as many young kids as they can bring in 116 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: and they need to do that. That's been their focus 117 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: and I think it's probably the right movie. Langdon by 118 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: all accounts great fella, but has had chances to cement 119 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: himself and hasn't been able to. So yeah, he won't 120 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: be at West Coast unless it's an absolute, very small, 121 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: tiny chance of a rookie spot. 122 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Alrighty, are you mentioning something to do with Dockers plans? 123 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: Oh? 124 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am Yeah. Okay, So they've got an announcement 125 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: this morning. So for a long time, the sponsors on 126 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: the jumper have been Woodside and Programmed. Yes, now we'll 127 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: get to Woodside a bit later. We're going to talk 128 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: about that and whole debacle this week, but they're not exiting, 129 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: so Programmed is now a different type of sponsor. So 130 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: Bank West is going to be on the Dockers jumper. 131 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: So you're going to have Woodside on one side, Bank 132 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: West on the other side. They're now a co major sponsor, 133 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: So they're going to announce that probably at about twenty minutes. 134 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: I reckon down in Fremantle, So it'll be a different jumper, 135 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: more merchandise. Need to buy a new jumper now because 136 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: you've got different sponsor. 137 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: More logos all over. Even the collars of the coach. 138 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: Sell everything, sell everything. The heart will open up if 139 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: you just. 140 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: Exactly something you want to tell us about Elliott yo. 141 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just quickly, so I know all the talk, 142 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: the ridiculous talk from Cane Cords and a couple of 143 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: other people has been about Ellioto's weight this year, which 144 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 2: is absurd. I wish I was as fat as Elliot. 145 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: But he's in ripping shape. I don't have anyone seen 146 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: the photos that he's been on social media this week. 147 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: He's got an eight pack. He looks unbelievable. So if 148 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm Eliot yo, and he's one determined human being, he's 149 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: going to come out firing. He looks in great nick, 150 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: so shout out to him and you know stuff. The haters. 151 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: Just keep working Elliott. You're doing a great job. Could 152 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: have a fantastic season next year. 153 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: Hopefully well is the best revenge? 154 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly very good. 155 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: Okay, the Scorches scraped home last. 156 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: Night, Yeah they did. I was there. 157 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: It was. 158 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: It was a pretty fantastic game of cricket. So the Stars, 159 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: they've been pretty awful this season, right, they're really young team. 160 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: They came out and they were one point seven for 161 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: fifty five and heading for the worst ever score in 162 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: WBBL history, and I was like, checking my watches, I 163 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: might be home in an hour. Turns out no, They 164 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: stuck in and they made one hundred and ten and 165 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: then the Scorches kind of kept screwing up, kept trying 166 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: to lose. Almost The Stars bowling was fantastic. There was 167 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: a couple of really bad runouts, some really bad calls 168 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: from the Scorches, but they got it done in an 169 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: ugly way, and talking to Best Mooney, the vice captain, afterwards, 170 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: she was saying, it is important to win ugly sometimes, 171 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: because you know, if you're cruising through a season and 172 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: you're winning like not easily, but by big margins, sometimes 173 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: you need that test so that when it gets tight 174 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: you can get it done. And they got it done, 175 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: so then now three, I know the Scorches are flying. 176 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: I find it very confusing that they're both called the scorches, 177 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: the men's and the women is a bit competive them. 178 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 3: She scorches or something. 179 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well she scorches, she scorches. Yeah, and he scorches. 180 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: He scorches, and she scorches. I could do that for. 181 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: You, he mean master the universe now, yeah. 182 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: Well the she scorches are top of the ladder. He scorches. 183 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: Don't start for another month or so. 184 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Actually, right, yeah, he said, She said what about Josh English? Mate? 185 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: What's going on with golf club? 186 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: Talk about un lucky freaking So he goes out in 187 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: the golf course. He's got the six iron out, he 188 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: has a hit and it snaps and then stabs his hand, 189 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: which is not ideal if you're a keeper on the 190 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: eve of the World Cup. 191 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not ideal for anyone, really. 192 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: Not really, no, not really what you expect on the 193 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: golf course either, heart was. 194 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: He hitting that ball reckoned? And how cheap for his clubs? 195 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? He needs to invest in some better clubs. So 196 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: he's out of the World Cup. He can't keep, obviously, 197 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: so Matthew Wade will keep. Okay, probably would have kept anyway. Yeah, 198 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: and must be thrilled Stokes, right, no golf for anyone. 199 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: Golf is out now. These guys play a lot of golf, 200 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: a lot of golf. Cam Green is in fellow West, dosy. 201 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: He's not going to play tomorrow night against New Zealand. 202 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: He should. He should be in every absolutely and every 203 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: team in any format for the next ten years. Just 204 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: pencil him in. Get him one of those permanent markers. 205 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: So he's in the squad. They play New Zealand in 206 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: their open it tomorrow night, it's going to be fantastic. 207 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: And then on Tuesday they take on Sri Lanka at Optus, 208 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: so they're still tickets for that one, and say, if 209 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: you want to get to a head to a Nussy 210 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: game against Sri Lanka, that's Tuesday. 211 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: Okay, we've got beyond the boundary experience. After eight this 212 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: could be off and another side a feast of cricket. 213 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: Sounds good. 214 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: Did you want to talk more about the sponsorships a 215 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: little bit? 216 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, saga a bit fascinating, right. So obviously there was 217 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: a group of Freemantle supporters, well respected people, longtime Frio fans, 218 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: Carmen Lawrence at the head of it, Dale kick It 219 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: was involved and they sent a letter to the club 220 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: saying hey, we'd like you to rethink your sponsorship with 221 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: Woodside because of global warming and the effect on the environment, 222 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: all that stuff from mining companies and that I get it, 223 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: Like I've got young kids that are probably going to 224 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: have kids, that they're probably going to have kids, and 225 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: they want a world to live in. And I understand 226 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: that climate change is a real thing, but you have 227 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: to in your space. You have to be realistic. 228 00:09:59,360 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 5: Ye. 229 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: And as I said, I respect all those people, they're 230 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: very respectable, but this is not the way to go 231 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: about it. That money from Woodside, what that does for 232 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: the Freemantle Football Club, you cannot replace that. So unless 233 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: you go to them and say, okay, we don't want 234 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: you to have Woodside anymore, but we've got this other 235 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: sponsor that's going to pony up two million dollars a 236 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: year or whatever the deal is, I think it's around 237 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: that mark. It needs to be a plan for this stuff. 238 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: You can't just be wishful and hopeful that it has 239 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: to be concrete. Correct. When does McDonald's, When does Hungry Jacks? 240 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: When does alcohol sponsors? 241 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: When does sponsor environment? 242 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: Ideally the Fluffy pillow factory would sponsor every foot club 243 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: and every sporting club. But that's not going to happen. Now. 244 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: The flip side of this is what we call sports 245 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: washing or green washing, which is when corporations or sometimes 246 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: countries we heard this with the Live Tour out Arabian 247 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: guys backing the Live Tour and throwing heaps of money 248 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: into it. People say it's sports washing because it's just 249 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: trying to distract from other bad things that might be 250 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: happening in those countries, or this is not that. 251 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: This is about the risk of drawing attention to the things. 252 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, right exactly. It's like, look at this golf 253 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: tour over here, ignore. 254 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: All the conversation going again. 255 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is not that funny. And realistically, if 256 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: you think about it, wood Side, do they really need 257 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: to advertise? Do they really need to sponsor? Like, think 258 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: about it. They're okay, they're doing okay, and it's not 259 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: like you're you're at Woolworth and going, you know what, 260 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to buy the Woodside cereal instead of the 261 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: BHP serial. This is not what this is for. They're 262 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: putting money into something. They're putting money into something that 263 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: a lot of people get benefit out of. So write intention, 264 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: but I don't think on about it in the right way. 265 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: I think all of a sudden we're going to be 266 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 5: putting the membership prices up as well and have the 267 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 5: players ride the Melbourne. 268 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: You want to start paying ten grand for membship. I've 269 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: also told that a lot of those people aren't actually 270 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: fre mental members. Okay, most of them right or never 271 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: have been.