WEBVTT - Jittery, Bittery & Glittery ✨

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>The best part of your day is happening right now

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<v Speaker 2>listening to me. I'm Art Simone, and very soon I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to introduce you to someone interesting, exciting, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit querky. They may not seem that

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<v Speaker 2>way to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>But once I use my skills to uncover what they're

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<v Speaker 1>concealing from usoof, we're in for a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 2>This is concealed with me, Art Simone. Want to meet

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<v Speaker 2>the guests, Well, it's time to roll the tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi. My name is Arta and I'm from Melbourne. I

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<v Speaker 3>love art, and in particular I love music and fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>Today I'm not concealing a weird job or a strange hobby.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here to tell my story.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, while the sounds of that, we're flipping it up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit today, is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh indeed?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Well, hello, I love you to meet you. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You've come here with your finest pussy cat strawberry shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, it's beautiful if you named the pussy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, John, I don't think that's very confident.

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<v Speaker 1>True true? As of now, John, is there are you

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<v Speaker 1>a cat person? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, good, do you have a cat?

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<v Speaker 3>Used to Well, technically it was technically my roommates, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I moved away and I was like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I am your father.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's okay, all right. So from Melbourne, you're into art, music,

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<v Speaker 2>and fashion. Tell me about that please.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was initially going to study fashion. I've since

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<v Speaker 3>changed majors, but I have a keen interest in like fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>I particularly enjoy stuff like straight fashion. I like block

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<v Speaker 3>silhouettes and that kind of stuff. Chinese straight fashion is

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<v Speaker 3>also a big like focus of mine. I've always very

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<v Speaker 3>much been a more creative person, especially in my family,

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<v Speaker 3>whereas like a lot of them are very nerdy in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of like maths and stuff like that. But I'm just, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that looks pretty. I want to know how to make

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<v Speaker 3>things look pretty. There's a lot of maths in fashion, no, absolutely, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it still runs in the blood.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So and music, tell me about your your musical interests.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's fun because my roommate is actually a music

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<v Speaker 3>student as well, so we kind of feed off each other.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a lot of like new waves stuff in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighties. I grew up with a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>like the Cure, the Smiths, Susie and the band Cheese.

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<v Speaker 3>That beautiful, that kind of stuff. I also really enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like I'm post punk and like dark wave and

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<v Speaker 3>like synth wave as well. But yeah, so I just

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<v Speaker 3>love anything that's glossy in neon.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of you've got a lovely studded chokra weans.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got some tattoos, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some lines in your hair. How you used

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<v Speaker 2>to get designs drawn in my head?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they called? I don't know hair tattoos?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, like Indians.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a headress on the hot one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, can I find a friend?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, Yeah, so I'm glad you mentioned music

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<v Speaker 1>that I actually understand. That's what you're gonna be like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really into progressive house car alarms.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm into anti music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually, just into the absence of sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, just it's not even silence, it's just it's negative noise.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're throwing out the format for the episode today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be asking you three questions to

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<v Speaker 2>try and guess something. You're gonna be telling me a story.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna be able to give me a hint

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<v Speaker 2>of what you're going to talk to me about today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so some people would say that I was running

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<v Speaker 3>away from something, but I like to think I was

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<v Speaker 3>running towards something, which is yes, that's That's the vaguest

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<v Speaker 3>thing I've ever said.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a lyric, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I could sit on that for a while. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's black, white and red all over newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the vibe there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are throwing out the rule book here today

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<v Speaker 1>for Concealed with Utsimon.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no three questions, no salacious secrets hidden away from

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<v Speaker 2>me and concealed No.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going in a bit of a story time today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I like that. It's the shakeup. So we're here

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<v Speaker 1>with Arda.

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<v Speaker 2>We've thrown the format out the window for this week's

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<v Speaker 2>episode of Concealed, and you've just given me a hint

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<v Speaker 2>because you're going to be telling me a story today, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And the hint was something about running away but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>running towards. And all I can think of is exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>And all I think is you're about to come and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me that you're really into fitness. But maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>not the mood of what's happening today?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me I'm the world champion of Platoon. No Ah,

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>And just like that, Big died.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ actually wrote the really famous episode, and just

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<v Speaker 2>like that, everyone hates for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I kill Big.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all good. I am here to tell the story

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<v Speaker 3>of how I ran away from home, specifically from a

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<v Speaker 3>very heavily religious, like very deep into cuan on household.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, okay, let's get into it there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, given that I've just kind of lumped that

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<v Speaker 3>on you, just like a grand piano from twenty feet

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<v Speaker 3>in the sky, I will give some backgrounds. So yeah, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up Roman Catholic in a very conservative kind

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<v Speaker 3>of side of town. It was a very diverse out

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<v Speaker 3>of town. I'm actually half indied myself, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>exposed to like diversity and stuff through that, but when

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<v Speaker 3>it came to stuff like queerness, completely shut off. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of like where that all began. Because I've

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<v Speaker 3>I've been very gay from the very beginning. They've been tried,

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<v Speaker 3>they tried to hide it, and it was just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like no, like are you like yes, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like you I've seen like there's photos of me as

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<v Speaker 3>little man. I'm like, oh, oh she queer, she fruity

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<v Speaker 3>with the strawberries on my shirt. Yeah anyway, but yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So combined that with the timeline of me figuring out

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<v Speaker 3>that I was trans and figuring out that like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very much into women, it was just like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of this cocktail of me slowly realizing oh, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to leave, and it all kind of came to a

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<v Speaker 3>head in my brother had just flown down from New

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<v Speaker 3>South Wales. He's in the army, so he was just

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<v Speaker 3>up there for a bit. He came back down and,

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<v Speaker 3>like I remember, because he was there, it was like

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<v Speaker 3>having someone who had been outside of the house for

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<v Speaker 3>a while, who had been exposed to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the normal world. It was like a light switch because

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of realized, oh my god, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>how a normal house functions, this is not how we're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to function as a family. And that was like

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<v Speaker 3>my complete cue that I like certainly needed to get out.

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<v Speaker 3>Another factor was also because my parents were deeply into

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<v Speaker 3>the QAnon stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give a bit of background of what q

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<v Speaker 1>and on is?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, of course, So q and on is basically

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<v Speaker 3>this conspiracy theory. It's connected to a lot of other

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theories, but the main kind of head of it

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<v Speaker 3>is that there's this mythical person who's referred to as

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<v Speaker 3>Q and apparently they're like an XCIA person and that's

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<v Speaker 3>how they know all this stuff, and they're giving us

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<v Speaker 3>all these cryptic codes, and they're making like almost this idea,

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<v Speaker 3>this myth that like we're all kind of neo and

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<v Speaker 3>we're in the matrix and we all need to leave

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<v Speaker 3>and oh my yeah, it's justikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, paper, it sounds really believable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's just I was like hook Land

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<v Speaker 3>and sink a Soul. It was just like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was very intense, and I was like one

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<v Speaker 3>of those things where I got a job and that

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<v Speaker 3>was my first introduction to what the world looks like,

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<v Speaker 3>like what the real world was, because all I'd ever

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<v Speaker 3>been really exposed was this kind of coddled Catholic ideal.

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<v Speaker 3>For context, I was also homeschooled, so oh yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're deep in the Bible belting. I know we're trapped inside. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>How does that feel for you when when you're coming

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<v Speaker 2>to terms with who you know, you are on the inside,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're also surrounded in this environment and not able

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<v Speaker 2>to see, you know, really get any exposure from the

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<v Speaker 2>outside world.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that like?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's like, for a physical example, it's like having

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<v Speaker 3>like a foggy mirror. It's like there's something that there

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<v Speaker 3>is still a wett of you, but you can't quite

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<v Speaker 3>see it. But it's like, you know, when you get

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<v Speaker 3>out of the shower and you try to wipe a

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<v Speaker 3>foggy mirror clean, but it's like it doesn't quite do it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it still drips and everything. You still can't see it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's you can rub as hard as you can

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<v Speaker 3>with your hands, but you can't. It's never going to

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<v Speaker 3>be completely clear. It's like there was missing pieces and

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<v Speaker 3>being so isolated felt like it was like when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in that environment, it's kind of like you're again with

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<v Speaker 3>the cats. It's I remember hearing hearing an example of

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<v Speaker 3>something not quite being right, and it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 3>you're a blind cat that you have even though you

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<v Speaker 3>have one of your senses removed from you, there's still

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<v Speaker 3>this instinct that there's something there that that shouldn't be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get you get a job, Yes, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the real world.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually coincidentally got a job in the city, which

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<v Speaker 3>was instrumental in me getting out because that's real life.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and that's where I meet my very first

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<v Speaker 3>like queer people. I remember meeting a quick couple who

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<v Speaker 3>actually eventually got married, and I met the very first

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<v Speaker 3>trance person I ever met. She was really influential to

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<v Speaker 3>me because it was in seeing real life that I

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<v Speaker 3>started to really again crack started showing because what I

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<v Speaker 3>was told about.

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<v Speaker 2>Gay people growing up, like the Truman Show. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's another analogy for you. Yes, you've been living on

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<v Speaker 2>your little Truman show.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, wait a second, Yeah, this is something's not

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<v Speaker 3>quite right.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, real and it's like you start to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>But specifically, something that I was told about gay people

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<v Speaker 3>growing up was that it's purely carnal. It's not love,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, And that's something that's that was really hard

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<v Speaker 3>because yeah, I know, right. That was directly challenged by

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<v Speaker 3>what I saw in that workplace, seeing that couple work,

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<v Speaker 3>seeing them the way they spoke to each other, the

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<v Speaker 3>way they treated each other, and in doing that, the

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<v Speaker 3>way they supported the team. It was with absolute just

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<v Speaker 3>adoration and affection, and I was like, it was just

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<v Speaker 3>like it directly challenged everything. I haven't even started to

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<v Speaker 3>rock that.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you already at this stage thinking I have to

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<v Speaker 1>start unlearning some of these what I've been told.

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<v Speaker 3>Not yet. Not when I started that job.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you used to like, oh, that's good for them,

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<v Speaker 1>but not to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and not even that. It was just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm living a holy life. I'm living the good life,

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<v Speaker 3>and these people as happy as they look, they're happier

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<v Speaker 3>than me, But that doesn't matter. This is the truth,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to be happy with that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of put on this brave face, if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>By that point, I actually left school and working was

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing I had. I really started to examine

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<v Speaker 3>what I was being fed and the fact that I

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<v Speaker 3>was being lied to. I started seeing the hate. I

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<v Speaker 3>started spending every hour I could away from the house.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to work eight hour shifts and even when

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<v Speaker 3>I was like at in the city at the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hour location. I remember being sixteen years old and

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<v Speaker 3>I used to turn a four hour shift into a

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<v Speaker 3>ten hour shift, and even after that, I'd stay up

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<v Speaker 3>in the office because I just didn't want to go home,

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<v Speaker 3>and I did that day in day out. I got

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<v Speaker 3>in contact with my brother who had left home already.

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<v Speaker 3>Their name is Tommy, and they were a massive help,

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<v Speaker 3>and we met up secretly in the city and then

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<v Speaker 3>we sat down and we talked and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, our parents are are bloody crazy, and like, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I was waiting for you to figure it out because

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<v Speaker 3>I knew you would eventually, and it was amazing. But

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<v Speaker 3>after hanging out with them, it was just like the

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<v Speaker 3>longer I stayed, the more I realized that it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like it was so toxic and it was just hateful,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was exhausting to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point. Had you now come into your queerness?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, definitely. I was still very much closeted. There

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<v Speaker 3>was an attempt to come out that was shut down

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Being out in the world and working had you at

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<v Speaker 1>least though, like started to think, Okay, I'm beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>understand who I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was very scared by it, and I used

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<v Speaker 3>to like I used to equivocate like hell. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>in the very early stages one of the things I

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<v Speaker 3>used to say about myself was that I was I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not transgender. I just have gender dysphoria and that makes

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<v Speaker 3>me mentally ill. So and that's how I used to

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<v Speaker 3>justify it, which is horrific and horrible. Yeah, oh quite literally. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But eventually it just started kind of peeling away and

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<v Speaker 3>I realized, Oh, this is just kind of who I am.

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<v Speaker 3>The sexuality and stuff like that was something that came

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<v Speaker 3>along later when I was out of the house, but

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<v Speaker 3>the gender stuff was always just something that there's always

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<v Speaker 3>been an incongruence for me and my understanding of gender

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. I've always kind of realized that

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<v Speaker 3>it's been slightly different to my peers, and especially like

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<v Speaker 3>given like the fact that I used to go to

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<v Speaker 3>like an all girls youth group and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just kind of like, oh, their understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of what it means to be themselves is so different

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<v Speaker 3>to me. And it's just like, on a basic fundamental level,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a woman, but I don't understand like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought I was a man for a long time, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't know what the hell to

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<v Speaker 3>do with this, because it's just like you have to

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<v Speaker 3>box it away and just kind of compartmentalize and explain

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<v Speaker 3>it away. So I devised a plan. I had a

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<v Speaker 3>day to myself one day where I didn't have work,

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<v Speaker 3>where I sat in my room and I figured out

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<v Speaker 3>what I was taking with me and what I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>And every day when i'd wake up for five in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning to go to a shift at, I was

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<v Speaker 3>about to say the chain name, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>do that. Every time i'd go to work, I ca, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there we go. And every time i'd go to make

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<v Speaker 3>meeples that I care. Every time I would do that,

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<v Speaker 3>I would carpool with another friend from work and we'd

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<v Speaker 3>go to work. I'd take a shoe box full of

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<v Speaker 3>my stuff, and slowly I started taking pretty much my

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<v Speaker 3>entire life with me and I got like one of

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<v Speaker 3>the first things I ended up getting out was my documents,

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<v Speaker 3>so like my birthsert, and I held it at one

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<v Speaker 3>of my friend's house. It was held at the friend

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<v Speaker 3>that used to like stick with me outside of my parents' house.

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<v Speaker 3>And basically I was slowly feeding myself away out until

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<v Speaker 3>I was invited to a mate's house. And this friend

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<v Speaker 3>is also just like amazing, And I remember having a

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<v Speaker 3>phone conversation with her, like a couple weeks before, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, I can't do this. I hate

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<v Speaker 3>this house. I feel unloved, and like I know I'm unloved,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically because of the way they like treat me, the

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<v Speaker 3>way they speak about people like me, of like my

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<v Speaker 3>queerness and stuff like that. My friend feels really bad

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<v Speaker 3>for me after that phone call and is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>let's organize a day that's just for you. You can come

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<v Speaker 3>to mind, stay for a few hours, we can have lunch,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll watch a movie, and you don't have to think

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<v Speaker 3>about any of that. And I'm like, shit, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>sounds great. So she comes in, picks me up. We

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<v Speaker 3>go to hers, We have lunch, it's a fun day,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we're looking for a movie. We're sitting there

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember the entire time that I was there,

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<v Speaker 3>but particularly when we started watching the movie, there was

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<v Speaker 3>this deep discomfort. It was like, even though it was

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<v Speaker 3>good because I was away from the house, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>that I had to come back no matter how long

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<v Speaker 3>I spent there. Even if I stayed a couple hours

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<v Speaker 3>more after the movie, or if I stayed like at

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<v Speaker 3>hers overnight, I would eventually have to come back and

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do it. So We're about halfway through the

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<v Speaker 3>movie and I'm physical shaking by this point. I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's bad. So my friend pauses the movie, looks

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<v Speaker 3>at me and goes, ahda, sweetie, please don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Lie to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell me what's going on? And like, are

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<v Speaker 3>you okay? I turned to her and I say I

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<v Speaker 3>can't do another night, and she sits there, she kind

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<v Speaker 3>of contemplates for a second. She goes, Okay, what do

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<v Speaker 3>we do about that? And I'm like, shit, okay, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is kind of falling into place. This is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>And we go back to my parents' place and are

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<v Speaker 3>you going back? Yes? Going? So we slingshot and we

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<v Speaker 3>went yeah, yeah, pretty much, just a couple other things,

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<v Speaker 3>just a couple of clothes and stuff like that. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a gas mask and everything. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>entering that railoactive wasteland one last time. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we played one more time by dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, okay, you go back into the walls all right? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the presscuts please and car sound effects please. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to set the turne for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So she backs her car in, I open up the

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<v Speaker 3>garage store. It's showtime. After that, we walk up to

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<v Speaker 3>the door and we give it a big knock. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to take a sec. Okay, the dog's barking.

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<v Speaker 3>They're coming. Oh god, we're actually doing this. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they open up the door and the pleasantries begin. Oh hello, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>how hell are you doing here? What? So I sneak

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<v Speaker 3>back into my room. My room's in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>the house. So's the laundry, so is the back door

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<v Speaker 3>to the backyard. I have a threwway to the garage.

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<v Speaker 3>I get what is essentially the rest of my life

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<v Speaker 3>out of my room into the back of Gen's car

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<v Speaker 3>in about twenty minutes while she butters them up.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your favorite color? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much, that's really nice, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking the weather is just so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, the weather is weathering. It's just twelve seasons, wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>After I have all my stuff in her car, I

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<v Speaker 3>go up to the kitchen and I waltz in. I

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<v Speaker 3>swagger in. For this it was less of a swagger,

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<v Speaker 3>more of a shimmy. And I was jittery, bittery and

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<v Speaker 3>not very glittery, and I just kind of go so dinner,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she's just like, yeah, yeah, we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>We end up kind of speed walking to her car.

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<v Speaker 3>We shut the doors, and I remember like we wandered

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<v Speaker 3>up the windows and We're like pulling out of my

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<v Speaker 3>parents driver, and I'm just like, Flori, Florid, Florid, please,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to leave. And then like, now my parents

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<v Speaker 3>are under the impression that I'm going to dinner with Jen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a long dinner, it's a station rights, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a buffet, it's a while, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's new experimental dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Basically, because they're still under the impression that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like going out to dinner and stuff like that, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to find a way to tell them. So I

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<v Speaker 3>ended up drafting a message and if it's all right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I could just read that to you now. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's alright, please hi, Mum and dad. I'm sorry if

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<v Speaker 3>the shock it comes as a shock to you both.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll be moving out tonight. I'm safe and careful,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do have a place to stay. All of

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<v Speaker 3>my belongings that I wish to take with me are

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<v Speaker 3>out of the house already. I have discerned and deliberated

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<v Speaker 3>on this, and I believe this decision is the best

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<v Speaker 3>thing I can do for my own wellbeing. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not something I take lightly, and I understand if you

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<v Speaker 3>are heard by this, but I think this is the

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<v Speaker 3>best thing for our relationship moving forward. I would like

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<v Speaker 3>to have time and space separate from us, and I

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<v Speaker 3>will contact you when I'm ready. I understand you will

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of questions, but I would like time

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<v Speaker 3>to work through some things in my own personal life.

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<v Speaker 3>I sincerely hope you can respect that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was it said. Yeah, that's the phone out

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<v Speaker 1>the window.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, at six twenty seven pm. Those

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<v Speaker 3>were almost the last words I ever said to my folks,

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<v Speaker 3>and they did not respond, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>probably the best response they ever could have.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's it like being on the other side? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my god, tell me about it. How's the mirror looking,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the reflection?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's crystal clear?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good? Yeah? Good? So yeah, Demmie, what it's been

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<v Speaker 1>like being on the other side and being able to

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<v Speaker 1>like live your authentic self?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think it's it's important to also, as we

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<v Speaker 1>tell this story, to also show the benefit and the

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<v Speaker 1>success and you know what you got to do at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of course.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've actually been like actively like helping a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of transpaces and stuff like that. I've been going to

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of protests and like doing a lot of

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 3>activism for a lot of trans causes. Because the one

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.399
<v Speaker 3>thing that like being out and open has taught me

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<v Speaker 3>is that I'm just again. It's so much happier. And

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<v Speaker 3>the thing is, it's just when you live your life

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<v Speaker 3>in that same hate, in that restriction, when it's in

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<v Speaker 3>pursuit of something that like practically doesn't really exist, in

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 3>pursuit of perfection, and you don't accept who you really are,

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.360
<v Speaker 3>you begin to atrophy. You're not you. It's just like

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 3>you quite literally begin to die. And coming out quite

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 3>literally did save my life. And I find that in

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<v Speaker 3>being out and proud I've been able to help other people,

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 3>I've been able to help myself. One of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that I've come to appreciated. One of the examples that

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<v Speaker 3>I use about my own happiness is the moments that

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<v Speaker 3>I have with like my chosen family, and also the

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<v Speaker 3>moments that I have with my partner where I'm at

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<v Speaker 3>hers or she's at mine, one of us will be

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<v Speaker 3>making dinner and the other one will be just sitting

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<v Speaker 3>down relaxing, or we'll be making dinner together. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that I can live in normalcy and in

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<v Speaker 3>peace without having to think about it, the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>I have worked so hard to get to this point

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<v Speaker 3>where I can finally just have a moment where I

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<v Speaker 3>can sit down with somebody I love and just have

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<v Speaker 3>dinner whilst being the truest I can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Arta came in and totally flipped this podcast on its head.

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<v Speaker 2>Ow I'm pretty good at uncovering what people are concealing

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<v Speaker 2>from three questions.

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<v Speaker 1>But AR don't know if I ever would have guessed

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<v Speaker 1>that story. You've been listening to an iHeart Australia production

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