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<v Speaker 2>Hey, this is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So other than the Grand Final? What else on the

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<v Speaker 3>long weekend? Is there to watch, stream or read? Double

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<v Speaker 3>thumbs up? We know we do on a Friday. We're

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<v Speaker 3>obviously not here. Tomorrow will be on to celebrate the carnival.

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<v Speaker 3>Have we got that? Have we got our float ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? We're pole position number one. We're leading it, aren't we? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And that in fatal boombox? Can of wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Guys don't be together their early avoid disappointment if you

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<v Speaker 2>missed us.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we normally do some on a Friday. Double

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<v Speaker 1>thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 2>We go around the team, we talk about things were

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<v Speaker 2>into at the moment. For me, the big thing I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot recommend enough. I've seen the whole series. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>penultimate one. It starts this week. Slow Horses is back

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<v Speaker 2>on the Breakout Show. So last years the novels are fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Gary Oldman, who's an Oscar winning actor, as

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson Lamb, the smartest guy in the room. And the

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<v Speaker 2>most slovenly dressed one as well. It's a very vague.

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<v Speaker 2>This season is brilliance, the penultimate one. There's only going

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<v Speaker 2>to be two more. They film them more or less

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<v Speaker 2>back to bat because it's become so big. You'll find

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<v Speaker 2>that on Apple TV. But this new series of Slow

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<v Speaker 2>Horses is outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say this about the next recommendation because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>only one half episodes in and my wife dropped out

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<v Speaker 2>after episode one accusing of being bleak and miserable. She's right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm still sticking with it. Because he's got two heavyweights.

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<v Speaker 1>It's back Rabbit.

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<v Speaker 2>You've probably seen it every time we turn on Netflix's

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<v Speaker 2>Heavy Trail.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's got two heavyweights.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Jason Bateman, who's an amazing actor, and on

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<v Speaker 2>that brilliant podcast one while it's funniest podcast SmartLess as well, And.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got Jude Law. You know what you like? Law?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he from? Actually when Jude Law.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still alive when it's only his fifties, the same

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<v Speaker 2>age as us, which we still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>What well, you don't need to get killed? Is they're

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<v Speaker 1>not in movies anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and talented mister ripley yeh is a brilliant movie

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<v Speaker 2>with him and the young Matt Damon. It's I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>making my mind. I'm sticking with it. It's good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it about two brothers? Well, this is a bit

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<v Speaker 2>where it gets weak. Would you watch the show? Two

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<v Speaker 2>brothers used to be in a Nirvana grunge band, now

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<v Speaker 2>run a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a very hard working one and a shaky one

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<v Speaker 2>who's into drugs. Have we seen this before so many times?

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what? They used to run this restaurant together,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of them has just sort of fallen by

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<v Speaker 2>the wayside, leaving the hard working brother to run the

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant alone. But the New York Times food critic is

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<v Speaker 2>coming in tonight. It's got to be perfect. Guess who's

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<v Speaker 2>come back after killing a guy? Dodgy brother? You got

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the Bear Meat Rat two.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a timesas are and it is very miserable, really

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<v Speaker 2>really bleak.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really bleak. But I'm sticking with black grammar.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not double thumbs up, it's half a thumb semi

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<v Speaker 2>for now, Yeah, for now. It's a semi it's a

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<v Speaker 2>thumbs up, but slow horses double thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Real what are you into at the moment?

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<v Speaker 4>We are watching season four of Couples Therapy on SBS.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great show, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good if you haven't watched it. It is

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<v Speaker 4>couples that are sort of right on the brink of

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<v Speaker 4>breaking up, usually married, and they go and see the

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<v Speaker 4>most sought.

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<v Speaker 2>After take us married people that I am. Gay people

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<v Speaker 2>can get married to. Don't judge us. I've seen gay couple.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen gay couples on there. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>gay there are They struggle to the rainbows.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't got everything? You know, pretty doers have our problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, actually, on this in season four, there's a poly couple,

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<v Speaker 4>which means there are a thrapple poly polythrupple.

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<v Speaker 5>So three people.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's three people with three therapists. Just awner. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is fascinating. I've never met even someone got excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you have three three people hang on outputs, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, brave New worlds.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a dangerous show because you start bickering when

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<v Speaker 4>you watch, Yes, is their fights become your fight. That's

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<v Speaker 4>an assholes.

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<v Speaker 1>You Oh you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>You do that more than I do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they did with Google Watch. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>see hear a podcast of us watching that show.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to give up on it. It was creating

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<v Speaker 1>tension in our marriage. That was okay, we haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>those fights.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we're somehow implanted into their flights and now we're

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<v Speaker 4>fighting sometimes you.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife wouldn't even go you do that, It'll just

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<v Speaker 1>be this pause, what does that mean? The same the same, familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's actually a beautiful show into what it is

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<v Speaker 2>to be in a relationship because you're in a nation.

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<v Speaker 2>We took people, but there's other there's other parts of you,

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<v Speaker 2>and mums and dads that get and all those different

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<v Speaker 2>parts of you get triggered in any argument or tension.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fascinating relationship. And it might sound like somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>airing they're sort of dirty in that. It's actually very

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<v Speaker 2>i don't know, life affirming because when they have these

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<v Speaker 2>breakthroughs and the therapists are amazing on there who get

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<v Speaker 2>them to a better place, it's so emotional.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it's never about the thing in the fight.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always about something else. It's something from the child

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<v Speaker 4>who is the way?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that Rio is life, isn't it? In a relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>Last night my wife had an argued. My wife and

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<v Speaker 2>I had an argument for about twenty minutes at ten

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock about a light switch and a minute and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>why I don't think this is about the light switch?

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<v Speaker 1>As she goes, what are idiots? Even this morning when

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting up, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroked the light switch again, going it was never about

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<v Speaker 2>the light stitching. Still learning after twenty eight years of marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll take a break. We come back with

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<v Speaker 2>Alex and Pats's double thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian O'Connell show podcast. Today is a Friday, we all

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<v Speaker 1>know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Public Holiday tomorrow, Grand Final Weekends, People's playlist, It's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in half an hour's time, Small Thing, Big John,

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<v Speaker 2>the way than at eight.

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<v Speaker 1>You play the judge.

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<v Speaker 2>You're picking you happen tous pick the winner for the

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<v Speaker 2>Grand final of Pimp Up My Crib?

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<v Speaker 1>Patsy, what are you into moment? What are you giving

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<v Speaker 1>your double thumbs up to you? Mate?

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<v Speaker 5>We've seen a great documentary Our Family of Three on

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<v Speaker 5>Netflix's Unknown Number.

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<v Speaker 1>The High School catfish.

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<v Speaker 5>It's good, it's brilliant. It is absolutely shocking, and it

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<v Speaker 5>is brilliant at the same time. If you have teenage kids,

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<v Speaker 5>I recommend that you see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, post of mine I watching saying this is very good.

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<v Speaker 5>It is fabulous. So it's about the story of a

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<v Speaker 5>teenager in the US who is the victim of cyber bullying,

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<v Speaker 5>and it follows the story follows through to revealing who

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<v Speaker 5>it is, and you'll never guess who it is. It's

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely shocking. It's a true life story all over TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>How I google that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I need to know who it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it someone in the family.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't say. I don't want it's no spoiler.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help but think of its big other than

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<v Speaker 2>it being the Pope, you know, or Trump. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>think of, Like, what's a real big twist. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>telling me someone in the family.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not telling you anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The microphone twice if it is.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's just it's absolutely shocking. It's absolutely shocking, and

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<v Speaker 5>I know my.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids are catfishing me getting ready to do my documentary

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Credit is which used to selling my my

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<v Speaker 2>final speakers. We've sold this week you know guy who

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<v Speaker 2>we hear from. Was it a bed or something or

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<v Speaker 2>a table that someone brought a table of somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>the dad was crying as it left.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>This week came from my final speakers being with Anyway

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<v Speaker 2>Patsy Catfish.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, it's it's a brilliant show. It's a brilliant documentary,

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<v Speaker 5>true life story and as as a mum of a teenager,

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<v Speaker 5>it made me feel incredibly grateful that here in Australia

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<v Speaker 5>we are about to introduce the under sixteenth social media

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<v Speaker 5>ban elbows talking about it the UN just today in

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<v Speaker 5>the afternoon session today, it made me think, wow, how

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<v Speaker 5>lucky are we? How forward are we to be leading

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<v Speaker 5>with these world first bands?

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<v Speaker 1>And also do you enforce it? I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Very difficult, it is, but I love that we're doing something,

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<v Speaker 5>we're trying to do something. And also thankful for our

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<v Speaker 5>school who is so vigilant with phone us. In this documentary,

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<v Speaker 5>it was shocking these kids are allowed to have their

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<v Speaker 5>phones on their person at their school in Middle America

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<v Speaker 5>all day and when they interviewed the principal and say

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<v Speaker 5>well don't you think it'd be a good idea if

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<v Speaker 5>you just banned phones from school, and it was almost

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<v Speaker 5>like you'd asked him to turn himself inside out.

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<v Speaker 1>He could not believe that it.

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<v Speaker 5>Would even be suggested that kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it just thinking about how many decades of school

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<v Speaker 2>where those things didn't even exist? And it was distracting

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<v Speaker 2>enough school You're staring out the window for half of it,

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<v Speaker 2>zoning out. You know, we prayed for a phone with everything,

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<v Speaker 2>every TV show, movie ever, all knowledge ever, constant videos

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seven. We would prayed for that. It

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<v Speaker 2>would have felt like some sci fi future, when was

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<v Speaker 2>that going to be here? But and then the other

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<v Speaker 2>thing is it's like, because it's as hidden life of

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers now is their phones.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Number one concern that we have is social media, not

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<v Speaker 5>so much as social group or her studies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally birth social media. It's snapchat.

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<v Speaker 5>So it feels for our vintage. I don't know about you, Christian,

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<v Speaker 5>it feels so uncontrollable, like it's so foreign to us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrifying. Watch the doco you will, I would actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Have you've seen Adolescence Pats?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we started watching it, but we want to

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<v Speaker 5>watch it with odds, but yes, a similar sort of thing. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 5>just eye opening and essential viewing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be really interesting after you watch it with already

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<v Speaker 2>what conversations might open up. Because I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>watch it when I found out what it was about

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<v Speaker 2>as every parent's nightmare. Okay, it was just too bleak,

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<v Speaker 2>but my daughter's actually said you need to watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I watched it, and then afterwards it helped me

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<v Speaker 2>actually realize with more empathy and understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>What they've dealt with.

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<v Speaker 2>And they start telling me stuff that they've been sent

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<v Speaker 2>on their phones, and I was like, my god, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to go to the police. When there's no point dad,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like that conversation is over. It's just stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that people now that snapchat because it can be deleted immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no evidence trail, and so it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were all at school, if you had a

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<v Speaker 2>bad day, you got home, that was your safe space.

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<v Speaker 1>You shut the door and you were right.

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<v Speaker 4>That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's like the worst bullying is after school. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not even if they don't have the phones during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's far more insiduous and evil and it's ruining teenage lives.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just driving up their isolation, you know, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they think they're connected. And also we didn't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't invited out right in an evening all the

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<v Speaker 2>week and you had no.

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<v Speaker 1>Idea, blissfully ignorant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now they're on Snapchat and they're deliberately being you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been gas sit all this photos of them all

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<v Speaker 2>having good time. It's heartbreak and they want to come

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<v Speaker 2>down because as we as parents then will just blow

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<v Speaker 2>our lids. Oh call on the parents, and it short

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<v Speaker 2>circuits the conversation. It's like it ends the conversation because

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<v Speaker 2>you just get to kind of fix it mode. They

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<v Speaker 2>just want you to understand how they feel. But please

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<v Speaker 2>watch adolescents, Yes we will. It's a great shot, Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you in? Two mate?

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<v Speaker 1>This week? A bit of inspo.

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<v Speaker 6>Tracy Holmes is one of the greatest sports journalists this

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<v Speaker 6>country has ever produced, and she's written a book called

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<v Speaker 6>The Eye of the dragon Fly. She's done Colm Games,

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<v Speaker 6>she's done Olympic Games, She's interviewed the likes of Pele

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<v Speaker 6>and Senna, Kathy Freeman among the names, and an inspiration

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<v Speaker 6>to me she's been really she's a celebrated journalist and

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<v Speaker 6>she's written this amazing book. It's really really inspiring, especially

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<v Speaker 6>to the current generation of female sports journalists, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like the Kelly Underwoods, even the Beck Maddens, the Kate Massey's.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the world.

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<v Speaker 6>And she did it from very early on, like in

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<v Speaker 6>the late eighties. She's marched into the ABC and said,

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<v Speaker 6>we need to be doing more on women's sport, and

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<v Speaker 6>she started this program called Women in Sport. It was

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen minutes in nineteen eighty eight. She was laughed at,

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<v Speaker 6>sneered at by all those you know, pipe smoking old

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<v Speaker 6>journos that used to walk up and down the aisles

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<v Speaker 6>of all those commercial and ABC stations as well. And

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<v Speaker 6>so she's just gone from there to do what she

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<v Speaker 6>now does. And I think it's amazing. I've got daughters,

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<v Speaker 6>and if I have, you know, women in my life

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<v Speaker 6>that want to go and pursue a career in journalism,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to say to them, read this book. She

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<v Speaker 6>is a trailblazer. And I think we have heard a

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<v Speaker 6>thank for the amazing coverage we have now of all

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<v Speaker 6>the amazing women's sport, like the ever used to be

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<v Speaker 6>like this. All we had was really the women's cricket team.

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<v Speaker 6>We had the Matilda's that'd been going since the late seventies, Matilda's.

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<v Speaker 6>Now look at the coverage they have now, you don't

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<v Speaker 6>have these amazing sporting teams without the amazing journalists and

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<v Speaker 6>about the media really giving it the attention it deserves.

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<v Speaker 6>There's still a long way to go, I think, especially

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<v Speaker 6>with the AFLW, I think we need to give it

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<v Speaker 6>more attention than it's getting at the moment, and we'll

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<v Speaker 6>get there. You know, You've got some amazing plays the

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<v Speaker 6>ash Centers of the world, the Daisy Pierces as well,

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<v Speaker 6>So go and have a look at it. It's called

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<v Speaker 6>the Eye of the Dragonfly and she goes right in, deep,

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<v Speaker 6>riding deep to those sporting stories, which I really enjoy

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<v Speaker 6>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, thank you. We've got the news sport coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>The Christian O'Connell Show podcast