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Speaker 1: App Got anything good?

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 3: So other than the Grand Final? What else on the

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Speaker 3: long weekend? Is there to watch, stream or read? Double

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Speaker 3: thumbs up? We know we do on a Friday. We're

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Speaker 3: obviously not here. Tomorrow will be on to celebrate the carnival.

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Speaker 3: Have we got that? Have we got our float ready?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? We're pole position number one. We're leading it, aren't we? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And that in fatal boombox? Can of wait?

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Speaker 2: Guys don't be together their early avoid disappointment if you

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Speaker 2: missed us.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we normally do some on a Friday. Double

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Speaker 2: We go around the team, we talk about things were

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Speaker 2: into at the moment. For me, the big thing I

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Speaker 2: cannot recommend enough. I've seen the whole series. It's the

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Speaker 2: penultimate one. It starts this week. Slow Horses is back

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Speaker 2: on the Breakout Show. So last years the novels are fantastic.

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Speaker 2: You've got Gary Oldman, who's an Oscar winning actor, as

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Speaker 2: Jackson Lamb, the smartest guy in the room. And the

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Speaker 2: most slovenly dressed one as well. It's a very vague.

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Speaker 2: This season is brilliance, the penultimate one. There's only going

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Speaker 2: to be two more. They film them more or less

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Speaker 2: back to bat because it's become so big. You'll find

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Speaker 2: that on Apple TV. But this new series of Slow

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Speaker 2: Horses is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: I can't say this about the next recommendation because I'm

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Speaker 2: only one half episodes in and my wife dropped out

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Speaker 2: after episode one accusing of being bleak and miserable. She's right,

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Speaker 2: but I'm still sticking with it. Because he's got two heavyweights.

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Speaker 1: It's back Rabbit.

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Speaker 2: You've probably seen it every time we turn on Netflix's

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Speaker 2: Heavy Trail.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's got two heavyweights.

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Speaker 2: You've got Jason Bateman, who's an amazing actor, and on

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Speaker 2: that brilliant podcast one while it's funniest podcast SmartLess as well, And.

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Speaker 1: They've got Jude Law. You know what you like? Law?

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Speaker 1: Is he from? Actually when Jude Law.

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Speaker 2: He's still alive when it's only his fifties, the same

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Speaker 1: What well, you don't need to get killed? Is they're

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Speaker 2: Yes, and talented mister ripley yeh is a brilliant movie

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Speaker 2: making my mind. I'm sticking with it. It's good enough.

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Speaker 2: What's it about two brothers? Well, this is a bit

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Speaker 2: where it gets weak. Would you watch the show? Two

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Speaker 2: brothers used to be in a Nirvana grunge band, now

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Speaker 1: But guess what.

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Speaker 2: There's a very hard working one and a shaky one

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Speaker 2: who's into drugs. Have we seen this before so many times?

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Speaker 2: And guess what? They used to run this restaurant together,

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Speaker 2: coming in tonight. It's got to be perfect. Guess who's

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Speaker 2: come back after killing a guy? Dodgy brother? You got

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Speaker 4: It's like the Bear Meat Rat two.

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Speaker 2: That's a timesas are and it is very miserable, really

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Speaker 2: really bleak.

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Speaker 1: It's really bleak. But I'm sticking with black grammar.

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Speaker 2: It's not double thumbs up, it's half a thumb semi

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Speaker 2: for now, Yeah, for now. It's a semi it's a

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Speaker 1: That's great. Real what are you into at the moment?

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Speaker 4: We are watching season four of Couples Therapy on SBS.

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Speaker 1: It's a great show, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: It's so good if you haven't watched it. It is

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Speaker 2: After take us married people that I am. Gay people

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Speaker 2: I've seen gay couples on there. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: Haven't got everything? You know, pretty doers have our problems.

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Speaker 4: Well, actually, on this in season four, there's a poly couple,

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Speaker 5: So three people.

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Speaker 1: So it's three people with three therapists. Just awner. But

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Speaker 2: Then you have three three people hang on outputs, Oh

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Speaker 4: But it's a dangerous show because you start bickering when

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Speaker 4: you watch, Yes, is their fights become your fight. That's

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Speaker 1: We had to give up on it. It was creating

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Speaker 2: But it's actually a beautiful show into what it is

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Speaker 2: to be in a relationship because you're in a nation.

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Speaker 2: You know that Rio is life, isn't it? In a relationship?

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Speaker 2: Stroked the light switch again, going it was never about

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Speaker 2: the light stitching. Still learning after twenty eight years of marriage.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. We come back with

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Speaker 2: Alex and Pats's double thumbs up.

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Speaker 1: Christian O'Connell show podcast. Today is a Friday, we all

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Speaker 1: know it.

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Speaker 2: Public Holiday tomorrow, Grand Final Weekends, People's playlist, It's coming

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Speaker 2: up in half an hour's time, Small Thing, Big John,

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Speaker 2: the way than at eight.

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Speaker 1: You play the judge.

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Speaker 2: You're picking you happen tous pick the winner for the

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Speaker 2: Grand final of Pimp Up My Crib?

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Speaker 1: Patsy, what are you into moment? What are you giving

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Speaker 5: We've seen a great documentary Our Family of Three on

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Speaker 5: Netflix's Unknown Number.

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Speaker 1: The High School catfish.

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Speaker 5: It's good, it's brilliant. It is absolutely shocking, and it

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Speaker 5: is brilliant at the same time. If you have teenage kids,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, post of mine I watching saying this is very good.

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Speaker 5: It is fabulous. So it's about the story of a

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Speaker 5: teenager in the US who is the victim of cyber bullying,

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Speaker 5: it is, and you'll never guess who it is. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to know who it was?

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Speaker 1: Is it someone in the family.

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Speaker 5: I can't say. I don't want it's no spoiler.

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Speaker 2: I can't help but think of its big other than

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Speaker 2: it being the Pope, you know, or Trump. I can't

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Speaker 5: But it's just it's absolutely shocking. It's absolutely shocking, and

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Speaker 2: Kids are catfishing me getting ready to do my documentary

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Speaker 2: about that. Credit is which used to selling my my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me.

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Speaker 2: This week came from my final speakers being with Anyway

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's it's a brilliant show. It's a brilliant documentary,

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Speaker 2: Isn't it just thinking about how many decades of school

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Speaker 5: Number one concern that we have is social media, not

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Speaker 1: It's totally birth social media. It's snapchat.

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Speaker 5: So it feels for our vintage. I don't know about you, Christian,

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Speaker 5: it feels so uncontrollable, like it's so foreign to us.

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Speaker 1: It's terrifying. Watch the doco you will, I would actually, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd be really interesting after you watch it with already

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Speaker 1: It's what happens.

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Speaker 2: It's far more insiduous and evil and it's ruining teenage lives.

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Speaker 2: It's just driving up their isolation, you know, even though

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Speaker 2: watch adolescents, Yes we will. It's a great shot, Alex,

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Speaker 1: This week? A bit of inspo.

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Speaker 6: Tracy Holmes is one of the greatest sports journalists this

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Speaker 6: And she did it from very early on, like in

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Speaker 6: I'm going to say to them, read this book. She

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Speaker 6: There's still a long way to go, I think, especially

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Speaker 6: So go and have a look at it. It's called

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Speaker 6: the Eye of the Dragonfly and she goes right in, deep,

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Speaker 6: riding deep to those sporting stories, which I really enjoy

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