WEBVTT - NADIA BARTEL - DANCING WITH THE STARS 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.360 TV Reload, the podcast Last Weep Their Life. Hey guys, 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.440 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.280 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Nadia Bartell, 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.400 who is the first bodoted celebrity from Channel Seven's Dancing 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.160 with the Stars, which I'm going to say is one 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.680 of my favorite seasons of this show. And this show's 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.360 been on TV for like twenty years, so that's definitely 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.880 saying something. My guest today, Nadia Bartell, is an Australian 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.000 model and clothing designer. She is the former wife of 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:32.080 retired AFL footballer Jimmy Bartel. You could say that Nadia 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:36.320 is one of Australia's most influential influences with over half 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.080 a million followers on Instagram. But you know what, I 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.040 also like to think of her as just a hardworking 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.400 mum with a compelling story. I will talk about how 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.919 hard it is to learn all of those dances and 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.360 just how many routines Nadia had to learn during rehearsals. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.760 We will find out the truth if she was a 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.600 diva behind the scenes, and if she clashed with some 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.320 of the creative team. There is an opportunity to talk 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.000 about what her children thought of them on Dancing with 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.039 the Stars and how Nardia chose to watch or maybe 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.120 not watched the show. We will discuss the other stars 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.839 on the show and get an exciting behind the scenes 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.600 look at Nardia's thoughts on doctor Chris Brown and Sonja 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.080 Krugez vibe during filming and what they're like between takes. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.920 There is so much to talk about with Nadia, as 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.640 you could imagine, So guys, sit back and relax as 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.040 we unpack the very exciting world of Dancing with the Stars. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.680 Hi Nadia, Hi, how are you? I'm doing very well. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.920 Excited to wake up on Monday and have my breakfast 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.640 with you, That's all I'm saying. It's great. What an 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.440 amazing opportunity to get asked to do this show. I mean, 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.800 Dancing with the Stars is one of the more celebrated 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.600 reality shows that you get asked to do. People really 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.360 enjoy doing this one as opposed to some of the others. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.280 What was your reaction when you got the call. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.080 I'm so excited because I have always actually wanted to 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.560 be on this show. I was actually lucky enough for 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.880 the two years ago as well, but I couldn't make 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.880 it work with my boys, who are a lot younger 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.240 that time. So yeah, I was so excited, and I 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.760 really wanted to make it work because, yeah, as you said, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.280 I just think it's a really fun show, and I think, 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.120 you know, everyone wants to learn to dance. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.600 I see, especially for me. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.880 I love to dance like at home around the lounge room, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:15.760 and it's just something that I really enjoyed. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:16.600 So I was super pumped. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.240 What I've realized about this show is how little I 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.000 know about dancing, because while I watched you dance in 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.440 all of your dances, I was like, Nadia is amazing. Whoo, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.400 And then it would go to the judges and they'd 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.639 be like saying all of these comments. Was it hard 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.160 to want to do this show and do as well 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.320 as you did and then to sort of face this 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:37.840 course sort of criticism. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.160 Yeah, it was interesting. I what was hard about the show, 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.560 I guess, is that you can think you know how 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.200 to dance and you can do all these moves and like, oh, 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.000 my girlfriends are like, you're gonna now this show because 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.840 you're such a good dance. But I think when you 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.440 have to actually learn the technique. It's a whole different ballgame, 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.520 and obviously it's also the judges interpretation of what they think. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.240 But I do think that my second performance of Detained Go, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.560 I actually did feel pretty good when I finished that one, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.040 So I was a bit surprised to hear the judges comments. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.360 So obviously I respect them and they definitely know what 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.600 they're talking about. And I think that it's particularly with 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.280 that pain Go dance. It's a ballroom style, so you 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.000 need to like hold your head and it's a really 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.959 awkward position and you need. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.160 To kind of filter your head up. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.639 And I wasn't like smile. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.799 I had to be really like fierce and serious, which 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:21.720 I found really hard. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:22.799 So I think I was really. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.320 Concentrating on getting all those technique things right. But then 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.800 maybe that's probably why then my call wasn't like switched 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.760 on a all those things. It's just there's so much 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.600 that dance you need to think about, and I think 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.320 that's the main thing I kind of took out of it. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.560 I'm like, it's not just going out there and dancing, 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.720 it's like also performing and getting into character. And I 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.120 think that was one of the main things that were 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.040 trying to teach me to get into character. But for me, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.680 not being a performer, never getting up on stage, I 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.200 found that really hard to get out there and try 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.520 to be a different person to who I am. So yeah, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:51.360 it was very interesting. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.640 You're not an actor and so no, what's interesting about 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.120 that is when you don't have that approach to putting 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.760 something on audiences, probably even the judges can pick up 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.320 on something that feels a little bit unauthentic. And there 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.760 were some looks that you gave when because I've really 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.280 watched you dance a few times, like get a restraining 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.880 order against me. Anyway, there were some looks that you had, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.280 you know, that just didn't seem like you. It didn't 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.440 seem like the Nadia of the known and we've seen 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.040 in the media over the years, you know what I mean. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.919 And especially because if you watched the first week, I 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.120 would probably I could be more me, so I could 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.279 just like be happy. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:25.640 And run around. 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.159 But in the second tango performance, Kali aby he's the 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.880 amazing creative director behind dancing. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.560 But it starts she told me, I. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.599 Really is getting the character. I need to be like 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.359 this fierce woman and think about all these things. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.080 And someone's trying to take the children away and. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.000 How you would act, and I was finding it really 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.279 difficult to get in that kind of frame of mind 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:44.920 with my like my look in my eyes. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.839 Your eyes need to be really fierce. And I was like, oh. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.000 So I found that really really difficult. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:50.760 And you're right. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.520 I think if you're an actor, or even someone like 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.640 Lisa mcchuwne that seems to doing a lot of obviously 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:56.800 be time active, but she does a lot of theater 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.640 and stuff as well, it's kind of easy for them 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.400 to get the character. But I struggled with that, and 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.400 that's why I was laughing because even my dad, who 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.120 watched it last night, like the face shoulder, I'm like, 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:08.880 I know, but I didn't. I had to do that. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.160 I was told to do that. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.680 But I think you're right. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.280 If I was more of an actor and you had 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.240 to do, you know, get on stage, I think I'd 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.920 be able to get into character like that and it 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:19.080 looked natural. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:20.840 So for me, it didn't look very natural. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.719 I've seen you walk down the Chapel Street and Windsor 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.360 with your children when you're in full mum mode and 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.480 people are watching you, and that protective mum face was enough. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:31.600 Bluff face that we saw. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.039 It's not the same kind of face. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.080 No, it's not. Everyone wants a piece of you. They're 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.520 all looking at you with your children and you can't 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.080 had that look like bugger off. But that face was 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.880 not what we saw, you know what I mean, It's 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:44.719 very different. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.040 One was the real face and the other one was 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.159 trying to do that. Yeah. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.960 Absolutely absolutely. Now I read something that because you know 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.520 you're a fashion designer, that is your trade, that you 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.719 were I don't know, butting heads with the people of 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.039 the creative team trying to get these costumes together. Is 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.760 that all garbage? And what's the most amount of garbage 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.680 you've read while being on Dancing with the Stuff? Oh no, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:05.400 I haven't. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.760 Even seen that. No, that was totally not true. I 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.320 haven't even seen that written anywhere. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.120 No, that was so. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.000 I loved working with the whole creative team in the 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.360 costume design. I just let them do their things. I 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.680 didn't try to control anything. I was like, you know what, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.599 this is their thing, their show. I'm happy just to 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:21.160 be on it. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.760 So yeah, I loved what they put me in. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.279 Like obviously, the second outfit, which was more like Queen 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.160 a Parts, is very different to what I'd normally wear, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:29.920 but that's all what it's all about, getting up there 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.080 to perform, and yeah, just take it all in. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.480 It'd be hard, I think sometimes i'd need to sit 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.240 on my hands. If that was what I was good at, 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.200 I'd be like, well, you know, you could lift the 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.880 ham a little here, you know, or you could accessorize 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:42.359 a little here, you know what I mean. It would 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.480 be easy, I guess for people to kind of make 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.160 up that rumor because that is you gage, do you 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:47.640 know what I mean? 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.720 So I had to kind of let go with it, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.720 like it wasn't me. I was just thinking, it's not 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.120 like me and what I wear to like a fashion 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.240 event or something like that. Like this is their show 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.000 and they know what they're doing and I don't know 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.000 anything about, you know, getting up stage and dancing. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:02.560 So I was like, they know what's best for me 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:02.880 to wear. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.800 But they were really lovely because with one of the 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.360 promo outfits and shops we got to their mental dress everyone. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.160 But they did say to me and Leu because Lu 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.000 my dad's partner. He's really into fashion as well, and 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.440 they were like, you know what, you guys can just 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:14.920 sort out. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.680 Your own outfit just glue. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.160 Yes, I thought about out for Us, which I liked 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.320 and wearing the same like baby blue color. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.240 So yeah, they were great. They were really easy to 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:23.600 work with. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.920 You're pretty well connected in the media world. You've got 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.080 a lot of friends, let's just say that. And there's 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.600 a lot of people that have done this show. I'm thinking, 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.760 if I'm Nadia, who do I reach out to and 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.160 ask for advice? Did you go down the line and 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.000 look for people who've done the show before and try 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:38.760 and get some tips. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:40.160 I did not. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.200 Too many of them, actually, to be honest. I did 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:43.640 speak to Olympia Valance a. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.600 Lot, and she has such a good experience in the show, 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.440 and she's obviously done really well, and yeah, she loved it, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.160 So I spoke to her a little bit and got 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.480 some tips and different things. But I think she's such 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.400 She's obviously an actor, so she's such a great performer. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.800 So I think it's like I didn't really speak to 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.040 anyone that was probably in the same boat as me, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.920 that had probably never had any experience. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.840 In dance or dancing as a kid, because. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.640 I think like, even if you've danced a little bit 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.720 as a kid, of those early years. It's kind of 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.560 embedded in you, where with me, I was the opposite, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.240 So I was like, never did dance or seeither or 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.400 anything like that, but I was really into sport. So yeah, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.040 I do find that you think, you know, you needs 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.560 to be fit to dance, But I think it's a 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.160 whole different ball game for me. Just being good at 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.760 sport and athletics and you know, netball and all of 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:26.360 those things. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.160 That doesn't mean it's going to make you into being 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:28.880 a good dancer. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.960 No, but you've got a good rig. You've got a 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.000 rig for dancing, you mustly. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.800 They're also tiny, the dancers are so petite and tiny 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:37.839 it's crazy. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.920 I guess. So you know, there was people online also 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.680 sort of commenting with last night's episode saying that, you know, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.760 with some more maybe more recognizable people like Lisa McCune, 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.439 are they is it harder to beat them because they 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.679 are Maybe? I don't know, what what do you call this? 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.760 Accunons she'd been on television for like, you know, one 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:55.360 hundred years. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.520 It is, but I just I think I know what 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.480 you mean. It's not the most even ball game in 0:08:59.520 --> 0:08:59.760 a way. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.080 Becau obviously, like even I spoke tually for a lot 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.480 backstage because she knew that I was like, I'm so nervous, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.520 Like after I wasn't nervous, but after my first performance, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.200 I got a little bit of stage right as soon 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.559 as I kind of jumped on stage. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:11.920 I think that was just because it was. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.280 Just also new to me, and seeing the whole audience 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.680 stare back at me and the cameras and the lights, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.880 and it was just something that I just obviously I've 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.920 never experienced that before, so it was, yeah, I got 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.599 a little bit of oh and just felt like I 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.760 forgot everything in that moment, and it did come back 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.960 once I started dancing. But I remember speaking to Lisa 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.560 after that performance, and she was so great because obviously 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.560 she's got so much experience being after but then in theater, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.360 so she's been dealing theater i think for the last 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.040 ten years, and she's really kind of comfortable getting up 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.520 on stage and getting into character. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.199 And she said to me, she's like, it's something that 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.360 you know, you've got to kind of practice at it. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:43.360 It's not going to come easily. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.120 But maybe for some other people like Nikki on the show, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.640 who's a comedian, she also is used to kind of 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.320 being up on stay even that it was a totally 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:50.920 different thing. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:51.520 That she's doing. 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.040 She's maybe used to the impassive that, but for me, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.520 I just found it quite It was a lot for 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.599 I think it was just something that I'm not used to, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.440 and I found that whole like kind of like, oh, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.040 just forgetting everything in that moment, you're quite daunting. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.720 I remember reading an article about two actors, one being 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.760 Claudia Carvin, the other one being Nicole Kidman, and they 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.720 both had been away from theater doing television and film 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.760 for a long time, and that they said, when you're 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.199 out of practice of doing something live, you forget that 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:24.000 you do always get those nerves and that there's a process. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.600 You know, there's a process in how you can get 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.679 around that. Do you feel like if you were to 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.120 keep going throughout the competition you would have been able 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.160 to sort of harness that and try and get into it, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.000 or do you reckon that the nerves would have always 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.000 been there. No. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.520 I think what you're saying is so spot on because 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.960 I think by my third performance, which is my elimination 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.160 dance the World, I actually felt like that was one 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.400 of my best and I just got into the mode 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.360 a little bit more and I felt really comfortable. And 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.679 a lot of people were commenting to me last night 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.000 saying that I looked more comfortable in that dance, So 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.199 I think, yeah, I felt like by that third dance, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:55.520 I felt the nerve. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.080 But I kind of used it to propel me as 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:59.840 I think it's what you're you're kind of getting through. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.319 I do feel that I've had that before when I've 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.040 done like toasting or you know, speaking at live events 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.559 with hundreds of people. I've done a little bit of 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.520 that before with business, but I think, you know, I 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.600 can feel really nervous doing that. But I think because 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.559 I really know, like I know my business, I know 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.199 what I'm talking about, I can feel the nerves. But 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.120 then when I get on there, I find that you 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.160 get over it and you almost kind of can do 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:19.800 really well. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.520 But I think with this, because it was such an. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.400 Unknown with dancing and like learning the steps and trying 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:25.760 to get. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.079 It all together, like with my face and technique that acting, 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.640 the performance, getting into character, I think there was too 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.480 many things going on where then I felt. 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:34.960 The nerves and it all just became a little bit 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:35.360 too much. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:36.880 Where I think like the more you do it, the 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.120 easier became so I'm sure if I was able to 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.400 stay in the competition a little bit longer, I think 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.520 I would have become more and more comfortable, which would 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:43.920 have been good. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:45.320 Didn't get there, though, but. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.280 You would have. I feel like you would have because 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.520 I could see that progression. And that's kind of where 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.000 I was going with it, because I could see that 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.599 mentality growing for you. It is like going to the 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.000 gym and working out a muscle, and that sort of 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.439 stage right that can happen. You know, you sort of 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.400 get used to it the more and more, or you 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.679 go down the line, you know. I know that people 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.199 have told me that you are learning not just that dance, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.640 and that's something that audiences probably should need to know, 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.360 is that you know it is not just you logging 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.240 that one particular dance as you're in those long dance rehearsals, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.400 you're learning quite a few. How many dances were you 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.960 learning over the weeks that you were training. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.280 That's the hard I think I didn't get to perform 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.600 the other dances I was learning. Learning that I learned 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:26.080 that sick. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.360 Oh wow. See that's what people need to know. Yeah, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.760 six dances going into the brain is way different. Yes, 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:32.920 it's way different than. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.679 It's so hard, and there's all different techniques between all 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.920 of them. So like you know, with the charter, it's like, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.240 let you move forward with your toe with the thing 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.240 that it's going to be the heel board in the earth. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.199 It's just like they're all so different as well, between 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.960 the bore room and between then the salsa and yeah, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.800 it's and the way you move your hips between the 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:52.559 charter after. 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.199 The selfa is totally different. And I was learning the 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:54.800 selsa and. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.720 Yeah it's quite Yeah, I'm not sure if we're allowed 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.120 to talk about that, but that's the thing. It's like 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.240 I think people say gets done over this long period, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.200 you have all this time, but it's all very it's 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:04.600 quite crammed in as well. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.000 Was there a dance that we didn't get to see 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.240 that you were wanting us to see? And can you 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.240 tell us what song that was? I mean, just for 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.720 people out there that missed out, they can they can 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.080 vision board this shit, you know what I mean. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.839 Well, I didn't get to learn I didn't get to 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.719 finish learning it probably, but I was kind of learning that. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.480 I was learning the salsa, and I think. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.520 That would have been really fun because I love a 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.360 fast space kind of dance. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:27.360 I would have like. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.880 That's why I quite enjoyed the Charter, even though it 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.439 was my first performance and I was a bit like 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.520 well during Headlights my first but I did like that. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.880 I liked moving around, moving my hips and you know, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.319 being able to be myself, probably more so than the 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:43.040 bareroom style dancing, even though I loved watching ballroom. I 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.400 think for me, I did find that stull a little 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.720 bit harder. So yeah, it would have been like fun 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.559 to do some of that sole dance or even a 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.559 little bit more free style dance thing when I can 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.040 get out there and just run a round and have fun. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.600 But who knows, who knows what might happen in the future. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.240 And I think I met a beautiful dancer in the competition, 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:05.000 Jess Rats and the partner is from Better Home than Garden. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.000 She's beautiful and she holds she's got like in Brighton, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.719 she holds classes with which is like combining dancing with 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.720 like pilaratees kind of things. I think I might start 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.680 doing that with her, and I think that'll be fun, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.360 because now that I've got a bit of a taste 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.520 of dancing, I do think that I know I toally 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.760 showcase it on the show, but I do think that 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.480 I've got more potential maybe than people saw on there, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.840 So I think I want to pursue it a little 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.400 bit and have a little bit of fun with her. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.120 So we had a little bit of a connection together, 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:30.800 which is good. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.360 It's a good mix of people this year. Like, you know, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.360 what's so funny is that, you know, I keep my 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.360 fingers in a lot of pies and trying to listen 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.280 to a lot of stories and people in the industry, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.960 and I just kept hearing again and again that there 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.400 was a very good mix of celebrities this year. The 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.840 stars this year all got along and we're very supportive 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.160 of one another, which doesn't always happen. So was everyone 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:50.680 really lovely? 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.720 Yeah, we had oh my gosh, I cannot tell you, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.600 like we had such a great task, But every single 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.080 one of them I felt like I connected with and 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.520 I had great chats with on multiple different topics, and 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.840 even people that you wouldn't think that you would connect with, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.080 we did. Like, so yeah, I just think we were 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:07.800