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Speaker 2: It's for young dads, aspiring dads, and for anyone who

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Speaker 4: It's been good that episode two is all about the birth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because you go in there with a back

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Speaker 4: I have done that, and I've also been to hospital

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Speaker 4: Some people are taking issue with the fact that we're

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Speaker 2: And what's her name? Is it Janet? Is it Janet?

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Speaker 4: Yes, what you like And if they wanted to do that,

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Speaker 2: Let me run into a hypothetical. Bradley, Uh, your beautiful

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Speaker 2: Another hypesthetical, you're in it. You've woken up, there's a

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Speaker 3: I think that I would rather someone tell me that

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Speaker 11: But it's definitely a tricky topic. That's saying something is

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Speaker 1: You're so right to the text message can start it.

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Speaker 11: And I've had people in similar situations to me going

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Speaker 2: So if what would you recommend, like, you know, if

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Speaker 11: Someone to let them know you've had the baby or

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Speaker 11: I think what you said before, like sorry, I think

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Speaker 11: I think, like you know, you don't really know you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's yeah. And then the balls in their courts

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Speaker 4: I had no idea. And I think by not talking

442
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Speaker 4: about it when it happens to you, you can think, oh,

443
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Speaker 4: I'm the.

444
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Speaker 2: Only one that it's so isolating, this has happened to

445
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Speaker 2: so isolating.

446
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Speaker 4: Whereas you know you've probably in your friendship group probably

447
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Speaker 4: got yeah a number of people who have gone through

448
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Speaker 4: exactly the same thing, but have also not spoken about it.

449
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Speaker 2: Thinking of all those people that are in that situation

450
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Speaker 2: right now. I have been in that situation. It's obviously really,

451
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Speaker 2: really tough, and I'm glad you spoke about it.

452
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Speaker 5: Willan WOODI that's the more in just a bit, the

453
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Speaker 5: Will and Woody podcast.

454
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Speaker 4: Well, my friend you actually you did a great podcast

455
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Speaker 4: this morning and very much.

456
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Speaker 1: You were a guest on the kick Pod.

457
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Speaker 4: So it's the Keep It Cleaner Girls, Steph Claire Smith

458
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Speaker 4: and Laura Henshaw. They've got a podcast called Kickpod. Get

459
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Speaker 4: it wherever you get your podcasts from.

460
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Speaker 2: It was only good because they were great hosts. I've

461
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Speaker 2: got a stress. They were really really good.

462
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Speaker 4: The whole chat was really really good. I listened to

463
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Speaker 4: it this morning and I really did enjoy it from

464
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Speaker 4: start to finish. But I just wanted to bring up

465
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Speaker 4: a couple of things. Oh sure, yeah, if I can.

466
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Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to knit live air check, I

467
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Speaker 4: hate to knit. But you know, it's just for the

468
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Speaker 4: next time.

469
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Speaker 2: You're on a podcasting.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah cool, Sure, it's not a type pump up a friend.

471
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Speaker 1: You need to learn from this.

472
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Speaker 4: So clearly at the start of the podcast with the

473
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Speaker 4: Keep It Cleaner Girls, you were feeling and I could

474
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Speaker 4: sense it. Yeah, you were feeling insecure about their celebrity

475
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Speaker 4: status very much.

476
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Speaker 1: So they've got millions of followers.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very impressive.

478
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Speaker 1: No one really knows.

479
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Speaker 2: Who who I am, who you are.

480
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Speaker 4: So you did a pretty rank name drop really early,

481
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Speaker 4: just to let them know.

482
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Speaker 1: Hey, big boys got pants.

483
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Speaker 2: So we interviewed Matthew McConaughey about six months ago.

484
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's pretty don't be surprised.

485
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Speaker 9: He's been on so many movies.

486
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Speaker 2: You killed the interview guard though, didn't off card. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 2: it actually was. It worked for a big boy in

488
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Speaker 2: the house.

489
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Speaker 1: Rank name.

490
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Speaker 2: Look, yeah it was a rank name. I'm glad I

491
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Speaker 2: did it. Okay, no fairy guarded immediate respect.

492
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Speaker 1: Okay, moving on.

493
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

494
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Speaker 1: It was really nice to hear you bring up me.

495
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Speaker 4: Yea, I did appreciate that a little buzz when I

496
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Speaker 4: was listening to it, But.

497
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Speaker 1: I really don't appreciate you. I mean, I don't know

498
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Speaker 1: how you felt this was necessary.

499
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Speaker 4: These are two beautiful women, two very powerful, beautiful women,

500
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Speaker 4: and you felt the need to bring up this story

501
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Speaker 4: about me.

502
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Speaker 10: And he goes one day when I was at school,

503
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Speaker 10: I had this pimple on my butt and he's like,

504
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Speaker 10: I couldn't go to school. I just couldn't go so

505
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Speaker 10: painful to sit down.

506
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Speaker 4: Really, there's so many ways you could tweak that, and

507
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Speaker 4: you just thought, oh, this is about what do you

508
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Speaker 4: be fine with this? Talking to Steph clair Smith and

509
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Speaker 4: Laura Henshaw about a huge pimply out of his art.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, Steph and Laura there.

511
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Speaker 2: Did it explode?

512
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Speaker 1: I should be suing you, maybe on you?

513
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Speaker 12: Then?

514
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

515
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Speaker 4: And this is actually this is actually really good and

516
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Speaker 4: I do want to get around you here. I mean

517
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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit angry I didn't bring this gear

518
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Speaker 4: to our show because this is this is hot gear.

519
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

520
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

521
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Speaker 4: Something you talk really well about is how a partner

522
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Speaker 4: should be around someone who who has is going through

523
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Speaker 4: a bad patch depression, anxiety, and how they can act

524
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Speaker 4: in that manner. And you've actually come up with this acronym,

525
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Speaker 4: yes I did. Yeah, as to how you should be

526
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Speaker 4: around a depressed partner.

527
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Speaker 1: Have listen to this.

528
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Speaker 2: The acronym is soft. So the first one is shitty

529
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Speaker 2: most men, and this is something that I don't think

530
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Speaker 2: a lot of people know. Poor mental health will manifest

531
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Speaker 2: as being a bit of a dick. The second one

532
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Speaker 2: is open, so if you know that they're shitty, try

533
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Speaker 2: and stay open with them. Friend, you can ask blokes

534
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Speaker 2: are meant to be really good, you know, you know,

535
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Speaker 2: so maytie with each other. Task another man with that

536
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Speaker 2: chat and let them figure it out in their way.

537
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Speaker 2: The last one is therapy, stay soft, ft shitty open friends.

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Speaker 1: Bloody good. Thanks, that was really really good. Why didn't

539
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Speaker 1: you bring that to our show.

540
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Speaker 2: Because that would have been pretty you know, I saved

541
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Speaker 2: the good gear for the podcast.

542
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Speaker 4: I get asked on frick you know it. It was

543
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: a really good listen that it was good. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

544
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's called kickpod. Get it where you get

545
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Speaker 4: your podcasts from? Because you do go in depth about

546
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Speaker 4: your own story.

547
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Speaker 2: You talk a lot about if you're someone who Striver's curse.

548
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really fascinating.

549
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it.

550
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Speaker 4: And whether you are a striver or you know someone

551
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Speaker 4: who is a striver, you'll get a much better understanding

552
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Speaker 4: of it.

553
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Speaker 2: So thanks mate, Now it was a really really good chat.

554
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I would yeah check it out kick podcast.

555
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Speaker 2: K I see where you get your podcasts? Yeah, particularly

556
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Speaker 2: on that soft thing that's the acronym sort of sketched

557
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: out there, but there's a lot more chat around exactly

558
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Speaker 2: what those letters can mean and how you can behave

559
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Speaker 2: which hopefully will help some people.

560
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Speaker 4: She said in the chat before the chat that you

561
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Speaker 4: guys have since texted about.

562
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Speaker 1: Catching up for text.

563
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Speaker 2: We text you.

564
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Speaker 1: You said you're going to catch up for a cough.

565
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Speaker 2: We text you no, yeah, no, you know pimple boy.

566
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Speaker 1: Oh they call me that, do they?

567
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: I actually hate Woods. The last week, we've got a

568
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Speaker 2: call from a guy called Paulo looking to exonerate himself,

569
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Speaker 2: to clear his name of a crime that he was

570
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Speaker 2: accused of committing ten years ago at UNI. Today, after

571
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Speaker 2: investigations across a whole week involving six different suspects, multiple allies,

572
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Speaker 2: I think, multiple lies, and maybe something even more nefarious

573
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Speaker 2: underneath the surface, We're going to get to the bottom of.

574
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Speaker 1: What is it.

575
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Speaker 2: It's a fool.

576
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Speaker 6: Criminal, it's dwelling Woodies who done it?

577
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Speaker 2: All right, it's been a long journey. It's time to

578
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Speaker 2: bring the professionals.

579
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Speaker 5: Now.

580
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Speaker 2: We've got our human light detector doctor Luise Marlow, who

581
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Speaker 2: joins us in the studio. Welcome, welcome back.

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Speaker 9: Thank you very much.

583
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Speaker 2: Who is this your fourth cold case that you've done

584
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Speaker 2: with us.

585
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Speaker 9: Now it is, and we've got an enormous success rate.

586
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent.

587
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Speaker 2: So for everyone that's just tuning in now. So Paulo

588
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Speaker 2: calls us and just before we get it is, I

589
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Speaker 2: want to say something that I've stressed before. All of

590
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Speaker 2: the names we're using a fake. All of these people

591
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Speaker 2: work in jobs and positions which they think are so

592
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Speaker 2: valuable that they have decided to give us pseudonyms because

593
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: they're so scared that they're going to get tracked down.

594
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: So the stakes who are actually quite high anyway, there

595
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Speaker 2: are four boys, Paulo who's the accused. There are three

596
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: other boys that he lived with, Poss, Ditch, and Wax.

597
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: I think it's one of those boys. I'll let you

598
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Speaker 2: have a listen to what they've said over the past week.

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Speaker 5: Last week we received a call from Poolo, who'd been

600
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Speaker 5: accused of the most heinous crimes.

601
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Speaker 3: Someone I had done it.

602
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Speaker 6: Being one of the girls fast and back.

603
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 8: It was not me.

604
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 5: Pale pointed us to a list of suspects. First up, Eve,

605
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Speaker 5: the lady you found the poop friends.

606
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 11: Teld me that it was me that found out. But

607
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 11: I think it was such a traumatic experience for me

608
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Speaker 11: that I have repressed that specific memory suspiciously.

609
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Speaker 5: Eve fled to you with five minutes after that chat,

610
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Speaker 5: and none of us have heard from us since we're.

611
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Speaker 2: Gonna have to bring her back here all a tony mockbell.

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Speaker 1: Oh are you thinking you and me flight a grace?

613
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Speaker 1: We might have to our next stop. Was the only

614
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Speaker 1: other two people who saw it.

615
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 5: Eve's roommate Prow.

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Speaker 2: I have believed that it was Paulo, but into investigation,

617
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

618
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Speaker 3: I don't know anything anymore.

619
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Speaker 5: And Eve's boyfriend poss what I can.

620
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Speaker 6: Say these these girls then they're.

621
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Speaker 4: Grabbing you asked, pointing the finger, and everyone possed, You're

622
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Speaker 4: like a rat in a trap.

623
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Speaker 5: And the next suspect Ditch, whose alibi was shaky at best.

624
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Speaker 6: My week. No, I'm saying I wasn't at the at

625
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Speaker 6: the party.

626
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Speaker 4: So we also spoke to Wax yesterday, but Wax had

627
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Speaker 4: an alibi which checked out.

628
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Speaker 1: He was with a girl.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So, Louise, do you I love by the way

630
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Speaker 4: that you've literally drawn a pool on a mat, which

631
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Speaker 4: I thoroughly enjoy.

632
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Speaker 1: But do you have any questions just on the details

633
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: of the case.

634
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 9: What happened to the pooh.

635
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so it was found. It was found by Eve,

636
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: was found by the girls, and then they Poss cleaned it.

637
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Then they got Poss, who was staying with them, to

638
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: pick it up and clean it. He cleans it, he

639
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: throws it away. And that was that.

640
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 9: What happened to the bath mat?

641
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: They threw it out. Okay, it was It was Prue's

642
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: bath mat. She really liked the bath mat.

643
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: They threw it out and then Poss led an investigation

644
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Speaker 4: the next day as to who did it. He got

645
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: together with Ditch and Wax, I believe, and they decided

646
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: that Paula was the one who did it, right, and

647
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: so Paula has been living with that for ten years.

648
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Speaker 1: Ten years?

649
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 9: Right, Well, it's did it's did do you reckon?

650
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 10: Ditch?

651
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: Why you did?

652
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 9: Did you hear that voice?

653
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: It was? It was interesting, wasn't that Ditch? Isolated? Again?

654
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: Can I hear Ditch again? Just so I can? Here

655
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: we go listen, this is Ditch.

656
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: Pru and Poss literally brought you a pool on a

657
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: mat to show you.

658
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember that?

659
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 6: I remember them bursting in?

660
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: So you were there that night, you had to in

661
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Speaker 1: the morning.

662
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: In the morning, that's sorry, So you're saying you weren't

663
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Speaker 4: at the party, which means you could have been the

664
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Speaker 4: Central Coast.

665
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Speaker 1: You drove back very early in the morning.

666
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Speaker 6: Okay, and then my we no, I'm saying I wasn't

667
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Speaker 6: at the at the party.

668
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Speaker 2: Wow Wow, okay, Okay, we're gonna go to a song.

669
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have one last ditch or Didch

670
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: attempt to get Didch on the show? Would he put

671
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: his credit card down? I believe, go for it, it'll bounce.

672
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: But most importantly, power our accused, our original suspect, is

673
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: going to be with us on the other side as

674
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: we can really get to the bottom of this. Doctor

675
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: Louise Marlin stage with this fright next time with them

676
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: would for a whole week. It's been per done it

677
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Today with our human light detective Dr Luise Marla in

678
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: the studio, hopefully we get right down to per did it?

679
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: What is it? It's a pool criminal.

680
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 8: It's dwelling Woodies who done it?

681
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Fascinating case woods. We started out five potential suspects, one

682
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: of them won't well, one of them fled the country,

683
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: and the rest of them now refuse to come on

684
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: the show. It's been our fear this whole time that

685
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: there has been a cover up with the boys. But

686
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: those three other boys. There's at the house of four boys.

687
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: Paul Oh, the accused. He first contacted us. One of

688
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: his name cleared the other boys, poss Ditch Wax. We've

689
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: interviewed each of them. Each of them sounded as shaky

690
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: as the next, and now I think our fears have

691
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: been confirmed, as none of them rock up today to

692
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Speaker 2: do this chat.

693
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: We've also been playing some audio to our human light detector,

694
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: Dr Louise Marla. This woman is the best head to

695
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: Luisemla dot com dot au if you want some more

696
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: information on her. But Doctor Louise, we just played some

697
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: audio of a few of the boys, and you're pretty

698
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: sure about who's guilty.

699
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, well the voices give it away, so you know,

700
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 12: Pause is just sort of happy and who cares anyway,

701
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 12: blame the girls, free and easy bit of laughter in

702
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 12: the voice.

703
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 9: And then did just breaks his.

704
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 12: He's hiding something, His heir is not coming out of

705
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 12: his body, and he doesn't make any sense.

706
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 9: I'm not at the party. I am at the party there.

707
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: That's right. His alibi also crumbled on air. Can I

708
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: ask Louise, of the other boys that you heard, they know,

709
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: they know they know that you, they know that dig

710
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: did it. Let's let's say it what it is.

711
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 9: I want to know why they they're happy to land

712
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 9: it on Paolo.

713
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: That's a great question, Dr Louise marl And we've actually

714
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: got Poulo on the phone right now now, Paulo. Louise's

715
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: question there. Firstly, did you did you think it was ditch?

716
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Let's start with that.

717
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 8: If like there's someone to point the finger, I'm like,

718
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 8: I will definitely point the finger on.

719
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: Blacks pass best paid.

720
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think they just try to stitch me

721
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 8: up to a classic stitch up.

722
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: Paula, how does it make you feel to know that

723
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: for ten years did was happy with you being tarnished

724
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: with being the Matt pooor I got.

725
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 8: To give it to him.

726
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 6: It's a pretty good stitch up. I'm not sulky.

727
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 8: I knew I didn't do it, so I was going

728
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 8: to worry, but I think it's time. But he comes clean.

729
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: Just to confirm Doctor Louise Marlot, Paulo is definitely in

730
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: this syn, isn't he.

731
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I want to know.

732
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 9: You seem quite relieved do you seem quite relieved? Has

733
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 9: it been stressful over the years?

734
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 8: No stress, stress?

735
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, all right, so it's been to fuck? Well,

736
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: then why is everyone lying so much? Why is there

737
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: such a big cover up if there's no stress, I mean,

738
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: there's no stress from you, Paulo, but there's obviously stress

739
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: from Poss and Wax and Ditch. Otherwise they wouldn't have

740
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: all lied through their teeth.

741
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 8: Like I said, I left early because I was very,

742
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 8: very drunk. Yeah, I'm not sure what happened, And show

743
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 8: what happened after I left at the boys mind when they're.

744
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: Trying to cover up, So there's something else? Do you

745
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: think there's something more than just a pool on a

746
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: matt here?

747
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 8: I I honestly couldn't tell you because I just, yeah,

748
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 8: I don't know what happened after that.

749
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, wait, it's it's the whole thing's dodgy, isn't it.

750
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: It's dodgy, de Luiz, It's dodgy. This is something else here.

751
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's suddenly pulling back, is right?

752
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 13: Extra?

753
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 9: This extra pulling back.

754
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like the the poo is

755
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: just like the the breadcrumbs that sort of lead to

756
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: the next thing that happened that night, and then they're

757
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: all closing ranks about Paula.

758
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 12: You know what my gut feeling is that there's been

759
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 12: a bit of I don't know, something like group sex

760
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 12: after you left.

761
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 9: And then they pointed the finger.

762
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Because we've been warned to set it away from this

763
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: sort of gear.

764
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: But that's what's happened.

765
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 12: I've got And then I'm sensing nobody wants to own it,

766
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 12: and they're pointing the finger at Paolo as a misdirection,

767
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 12: because misdirection Joe.

768
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: Polo was too drunk. He was the only one that

769
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: went to bed. He passed out, They took him off.

770
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 2: Something weird happened.

771
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 9: And then it's all about let's never talk about that

772
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 9: evening again. There was a poo but all got ugly

773
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 9: there in the house in some way.

774
00:34:51,840 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 8: That is correct.

775
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: Hang on, what.

776
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 8: So didch didch is the only one with something to

777
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 8: hide that day?

778
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: What do you? What do you? And you know you

779
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: know what happened?

780
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 7: Yeah? Did did instead?

781
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 8: What did what? Miss missus Marlow said.

782
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 13: Okay, you won't say no, I won't say I'm not

783
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 13: going to slag the people, but did disch has that

784
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 13: hide which is trapped and we also know I did

785
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 13: the poop.

786
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: So he just had like a bit of a Goldilocks night,

787
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: went into the girl's house may or may not have

788
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: had sex with one or both of them, and then

789
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: did a poll on the mat and then left.

790
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 8: He's done a two.

791
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 6: Yes, he's done a too.

792
00:35:50,960 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: Wow. This is why she's the best in the Wow. Wait,

793
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: Louisemarla dot com dot au, we'll crack another cold case soon,

794
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure. If you want to catch up on everything

795
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: that's just happened. If you've just joined us, head along

796
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: to Willemwoody on the podcast. All the poo donet links

797
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: are there and you can follow that cold case from

798
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: the start water finish. What a case.

799
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 9: It's well and Woody, we.

800
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: Are very close to getting out of here before we

801
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 2: ever got five hundred bucks to give away, all thanks

802
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: to Patty's Party Pies.

803
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 12: That is party, guys, the number one reason to party.

804
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: Let's get this party started. The great thing about Patty's

805
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: Woods is they don't feel like you need a big

806
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: moment to celebrate, like there are little things in life

807
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: that are worth celebrating and That's what it's all about.

808
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: For them. Patty's Party pies the number one reason to party.

809
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: What will you celebrate? That's the question Tanya has called

810
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: us on thirty and one O six five ten. What

811
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: do you What do you celebrate? My friend? What small

812
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: thing do you think deserves celebration?

813
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: Well it's a small thing, but it's a huge thing

814
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: in my world. I have a seventeen year old boy,

815
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 3: and as you boys can appreciate.

816
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 11: I had been nagging in for days.

817
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: To unpack the dishwasher and I finally came home.

818
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: And had been done. Dan, You've got five hundred bucks

819
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: and a Patty's Party pack off. Thanks for patties? Oh yours?

820
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 8: Good joy?

821
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: Awesome?

822
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 8: Thanks got at all?

823
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: Double win there geez, empty dishwasher and five hundred bucks.

824
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: Out those plays with a couple of pies. I dare say, well,

825
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: I bloody dare say, oh.

826
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: You didn't need to be sick about it.

827
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm not being sick about it.

828
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: But how good is a bit of tomato sauce on

829
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: your plate after a couple of patties pies?

830
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna look that down all.

831
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: Right, We're going to get out of here. Thanks so

832
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: much for joining us. Everyone. We will see you tomorrow

833
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 2: from four. Goodbye. If you missed it, our poo wrapped up. Wow,

834
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: will a moment supreme live on the air. What's supreme moment?

835
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 4: Yes, it was a supreme moment, Bloody Earth, it was azing.

836
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: Doctor Louise mal the human light dettector in here with

837
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: all of our suspects and as expected from the beginning,

838
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: the dirty, dirty boys underneath all of.

839
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: This, so much more to it, sick.

840
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: If you haven't heard any of the other way, start

841
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: from the start, you go to out where you get

842
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: our podcast from. Will and Woodies were there. There are

843
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: a special Pooh Done It podcast. Listen to them from

844
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: the start and just enjoy the journey because we were suspecting.

845
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: It as it went on and and I mean, hail

846
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: mayor even Louise was shocked. She was shaking.

847
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: We all were fell chair.

848
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: Well, I know that happened, but she was, she was,

849
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: she was shocked. What you just searched, Pooh Done It

850
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: for the best true crime you'll hear for a very

851
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Speaker 2: very long time. We'll see you guys tomorrow from foger

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