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Speaker 1: afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.
Speaker 2: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torborth.
Speaker 1: We're identical triplets, but we often don't have identical opinions,
Speaker 1: so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers all things
Speaker 1: reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women.
Speaker 2: That is so fetched.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Welcome back to Outspoken. Thank you for joining
Speaker 1: us for another episode. Now, Sophie is apologizing in advance
Speaker 1: because she is going to be a little slow today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm absolutely wrecked.
Speaker 1: I've had no sleep in three days because We've got
Speaker 1: our dog Archie on Friday, and he is the most
Speaker 1: beautiful dog I think I've ever laid my eyes on.
Speaker 2: I love how croaky your voice sounds.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I have been up like five times
Speaker 1: every night. He wakes up at one, then two, then four,
Speaker 1: then six, and then we cuddle until eight. Sophi's that
Speaker 1: she feels like she has a newborn baby. I literally
Speaker 1: do for anyone who's getting a puppy. Prepare yourselves because
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work.
Speaker 2: Well, the first night. He was pretty good, though, wasn't he?
Speaker 1: Because I woke up expecting messages saying she was so
Speaker 1: exhausted on Saturday morning, but.
Speaker 2: You were like, oh my gosh, she was amazing.
Speaker 1: That was the facade. I think he was exhausted the
Speaker 1: first day, and now he's got into the groove of things.
Speaker 1: He thinks it's fun to wake momentbad up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he is just so beautiful and I think we've popped
Speaker 1: up a few photos on our Instagram page. He is
Speaker 1: just the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to put it out there so because I'm his
Speaker 1: proud auntie. If you do want to follow him, he
Speaker 1: is on TikTok and Instagram, so we'll put all of
Speaker 1: those details below because he's my little project at the moment.
Speaker 1: I kind of want him to take off on TikTok
Speaker 1: because he's so gorgeous. And we also add this is
Speaker 1: another proud mum moment that he's sitting in a little
Speaker 1: basket next to us asleep, just being adorable, and so
Speaker 1: is gig our cat, So they're getting along famously at
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah. Well, other than the excitement of getting
Speaker 1: Archie this weekend, Amy and I also had some fun.
Speaker 1: I think Amy was more excited about this revelation than
Speaker 1: getting Archie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, on Saturday, I was driving home. I didn't have
Speaker 1: too much to do. And as listeners of the podcast
Speaker 1: will know, I absolutely love Gary Vee and I love
Speaker 1: his world of flipping, so buying something for a cheaper
Speaker 1: price and then flipping it for a more expensive price.
Speaker 2: And I've been telling.
Speaker 1: Kate that she should be getting into it because it
Speaker 1: is a great way to make.
Speaker 2: A little bit of extra money.
Speaker 1: Well, I was reluctant to do so because Amy has
Speaker 1: actually turned one of the bedrooms in her rental into
Speaker 1: a flipping room, so it's literally full of like old
Speaker 1: trash that she's turning into treasure.
Speaker 2: So I know.
Speaker 1: Reese was a bit worried when I said I was
Speaker 1: going shopping with her because he.
Speaker 2: Is very minimalistic.
Speaker 1: But I went along and said, look, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to support you and see what you do, because I
Speaker 1: was pretty bored on the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as soon as you walked in, you were
Speaker 2: loving it.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I've always loved soft toys, so I went
Speaker 1: straight to the toys and they had all these beanie
Speaker 1: kids in there and I was just reliving my childhood.
Speaker 1: But when we got out of the store, I looked
Speaker 1: up the most valuable beanie bears, no so beanie babies,
Speaker 1: and it came up with one that we already own,
Speaker 1: that Sophie has, and apparently it's worth twenty one thousand dollars. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's because I don't think it will be
Speaker 1: that because I don't actually want I don't know where
Speaker 1: it is. Look, there's the two. There needs to be
Speaker 1: specific tags. There's lots of rules around the valuable ones.
Speaker 1: They have to have a mistake on the tag. But
Speaker 1: I love it because this afternoon Kate is so pumped
Speaker 1: about the beanie Bears that she and I are going down.
Speaker 1: We found someone on Facebook marketplace and we're going down
Speaker 1: to buy them, and finally she understands the appeal of
Speaker 1: the flip world. Let's get into the first topic, which
Speaker 1: is all about influencer Reese Hawkins, who was shocked his
Speaker 1: followers by announcing he's quitting YouTube. So, for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, Reese is Tammy hembrose X and baby Daddy,
Speaker 1: So they're basically the first Australian power couple.
Speaker 2: Of Instagram, aren't they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, a lot of people actually nickname them the
Speaker 1: King and Queen of Instagram, and they basically dated for
Speaker 1: four years before shocking all their followers when they broke
Speaker 1: up in twenty eighteen. Yeah. Well, they're very young couple
Speaker 1: and that's what attracted a lot of attention in the
Speaker 1: first place, because they both had their first child I
Speaker 1: think it was at nineteen years old, and they sort
Speaker 1: of became this perfect family and someone to look up
Speaker 1: to as a young person. To be honest, I don't
Speaker 1: really follow Tammy Hembro or Reese Hawkins, and I've done
Speaker 1: a lot of research into them, and they actually were
Speaker 1: not insta famous at all when they first met, so
Speaker 1: Tammy didn't have a massive following. She was basically once
Speaker 1: they a massive ass. No, she was, for want of
Speaker 1: a better word, and nobody at the time, and Reese
Speaker 1: was working in a bar, not earning very much money,
Speaker 1: and he was also working as a personal trainer. So
Speaker 1: when Tammy found out she was pregnant, they basically were
Speaker 1: living in a crappy little apartment. And this is at
Speaker 1: the time when she was sort of starting off her
Speaker 1: Instagram career, and by the time she had given birth
Speaker 1: to Wolf, she had taken off on Instagram and the
Speaker 1: money was coming in. Now, before we get further, what
Speaker 1: is it with instagram as and YouTubers having the most
Speaker 1: obscure name for their kids, like Wolf and the other
Speaker 1: one the daughter Saski, isn't it? Yeah, Saski is the
Speaker 1: name of Tammy Hembro's brand of athletic clothing as well.
Speaker 1: It's really a marketing spin giving them unique names. Look
Speaker 1: at Sarah's day. As soon as Fox was born, she
Speaker 1: had Fox pajamas, which I do own. The thing is,
Speaker 1: I think it's just a young person thing. People are
Speaker 1: wanting more unique names, and they're actually pretty cute names.
Speaker 1: I think I should have just called Archie dog or something.
Speaker 2: No, it would have to be like cat.
Speaker 1: Well, they did shock the Instagram world when they announced
Speaker 1: their breakup in June twenty eighteen, and as you said,
Speaker 1: we actually don't follow them, but I remember this being
Speaker 1: big news back then. Yeah. Well, there were rumors that
Speaker 1: Tammy had cheated on Reese with Rapper Tiger, which I
Speaker 1: think is just basically bullshit because she came out and
Speaker 1: she did a sort of tell all on YouTube and
Speaker 1: she claimed that none of them had cheated and it
Speaker 1: was just a fact that they'd grown apart. All things
Speaker 1: really did start to get a little bit nasty on
Speaker 1: social media. But it was actually Reese who came under
Speaker 1: fire because he started a relationship very soon with another
Speaker 1: insta famous girl called London, and it got a little
Speaker 1: bit weird because fans noticed that London was leaving a
Speaker 1: lot of strange messages under Tammy Hembro's photos. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know so much if they were strange messages, but
Speaker 1: basically London, I think she was around twenty at the
Speaker 1: time when she started hooking up with Reese, and she's
Speaker 1: from America and she was a follower of Tammy Hembro,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people. Well that's why I think
Speaker 1: it's strange. Yeah, But fans basically spotted her commenting on
Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro's posts, and she'd like photos of Tammy. She'd
Speaker 1: also had light topless photos of Reese, and she actually
Speaker 1: commented under one of Tammy's photo, which was a photo
Speaker 1: of her, Reese and her two kids, and wrote something
Speaker 1: along the lines of I love your family. I'm so
Speaker 1: obsessed with your little family and it is so weird
Speaker 1: and so embarrassing that those comments have been found. Have
Speaker 1: Reese and London spoken publicly about how they met, because
Speaker 1: I assume she must have slid into a DM as
Speaker 1: soon as she heard of the breakup. Well, it appeared
Speaker 1: that he went to America not long after the breakup,
Speaker 1: and that's apparently where they met. But he has claimed
Speaker 1: in a video that they were not talking beforehand when
Speaker 1: he was with Tammy, that he didn't know her at all,
Speaker 1: but they actually met while.
Speaker 2: He was out in the US.
Speaker 1: Well, what really seemed to upset fans was that there
Speaker 1: was only four months between the breakup with Tammy and
Speaker 1: then his new relationship with London. Yeah, and that's what's
Speaker 1: put a lot of people offside. So it seems that
Speaker 1: London has really annoyed some of the fans.
Speaker 2: So we should probably move on to the video.
Speaker 1: So Reese uploaded a YouTube on Wednesday, and he addressed
Speaker 1: a lot of issues. He basically used the YouTube to
Speaker 1: apologize for his behavior during the breakup, and he also
Speaker 1: addressed some of the behavior of London. Now, a lot
Speaker 1: of fans were actually angried that London didn't appear in
Speaker 1: the video. Yeah, I found that strange. Rees said that
Speaker 1: she was downstairs watching a movie with the kids. But
Speaker 1: it was quite funny because you could hear the kids
Speaker 1: going crazy in the background. And London has been criticized
Speaker 1: in the past for not actually wanting to look after
Speaker 1: the kids. Well, I think we've all got to remember
Speaker 1: the fact that she's a twenty two year old girl.
Speaker 1: She may look a lot older on Instagram. People got
Speaker 1: mad because she said in one video that she couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine having kids. We can all reflect on us at
Speaker 1: twenty two. I wouldn't want kids twenty two.
Speaker 2: You know me either.
Speaker 1: I can completely understand where she's coming from, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if you should put that out publicly if
Speaker 1: your partner has two kids talking about being shocked about
Speaker 1: all their ages. I can't believe Reese Hawkins is only
Speaker 1: twenty six. Well, I suppose he's been on social media
Speaker 1: for so many years now that you just assume these
Speaker 1: people are and having kids make them seem older.
Speaker 2: But when he was nineteen, he looked about thirty. How
Speaker 2: old is Tammy? Is she the same age? She's a
Speaker 2: similar eight.
Speaker 1: Well, we should probably go into what dirty laundry. He
Speaker 1: did actually apologize, Well, he didn't actually address any of
Speaker 1: it particularly, but the dirty laundry he was referencing. One
Speaker 1: was most interestingly about the car that Tammy had repossessed.
Speaker 1: So Reese had a land Rover that was a part
Speaker 1: of Tammy's company and he was still driving around in it,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of drama about the fact
Speaker 1: that Tammy took it back. Now he slammed Tammy on
Speaker 1: Instagram for doing so, but then Tammy came out and said, well,
Speaker 1: if you're not going to pay your registration or your
Speaker 1: speeding fines, I'm not paying for it, so I'm going
Speaker 1: to take it back. Well, the issue with the car
Speaker 1: as well is Reese came out on his Insta story
Speaker 1: and said that he was meant to have the car
Speaker 1: signed over to him in their mediation as a result
Speaker 1: of him agreeing to move to America. And he said
Speaker 1: initially he wasn't happy that Tammy wanted to take his
Speaker 1: kids to America, but they offered him the car and
Speaker 1: he agreed to, which I thought was really odd to
Speaker 1: air because it's like, oh, Okay, I'm happy to move
Speaker 1: my kids to America.
Speaker 2: Now I'm just great a car. Well, also the fact.
Speaker 1: That he's hooked up with an American girl who clearly
Speaker 1: would want to go back to America and potentially live there.
Speaker 2: That's strange.
Speaker 1: But he seemed to also make a lot of snipes
Speaker 1: at Tammy just because, you know, insinuating she was going
Speaker 1: to America to follow a bunch of rappers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is in his video, Reese did address
Speaker 1: this soul and was saying, you know, he was very
Speaker 1: immature to say these comments, that he was in a
Speaker 1: bad headspace, and he actually apologized, which is quite big
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the whole video, as we said, it skirted around
Speaker 1: what the dirty laundry he was addressing, but he did
Speaker 1: take full blame for it. It was interesting that London
Speaker 1: wasn't in the video. I saw a few comments on
Speaker 1: the YouTube saying they think that it would have been
Speaker 1: good for her to be involved because she has been
Speaker 1: part of the problem. So Reese has been replying to
Speaker 1: comments about Tammy and London has been then backing him
Speaker 1: up and liking rude comments about Tammy and just sort
Speaker 1: of being accused of a bit of trolling.
Speaker 2: Well, don't you guys think.
Speaker 1: It's funny because if you look at the psychology of it,
Speaker 1: fans are really angry at London, and I think it's
Speaker 1: because people have become so obsessed with couples on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I mean I follow a lot of couple couples like
Speaker 1: Sarah's Day and Kerr And can you imagine if they
Speaker 1: broke up, how devastated you'd be. You almost feel as
Speaker 1: if you've been cheated on. Well, I think they feel
Speaker 1: that they owe them something and they owe them an
Speaker 1: explanation as well. Well, that's exactly what the YouTube felt like.
Speaker 1: It felt like Reese was actually having a break up
Speaker 1: conversation with all of Tammy's fans and trying to be
Speaker 1: the good guy, trying to say, look, I understand how
Speaker 1: you guys would have been feeling, but I was in
Speaker 1: a bad headspace because I'm a young guy and have
Speaker 1: just broken up with, you know.
Speaker 2: The love of my life.
Speaker 1: It is weird that he has to come out and
Speaker 1: explain himself. I also feel like because the Instagram world
Speaker 1: on YouTube, it's so fake and you only see the
Speaker 1: best of couples, you know, you see their highlights real
Speaker 1: so lots of fans are shocked when they come to
Speaker 1: the realization that these people don't have a perfect relationship. Well, Kate,
Speaker 1: you address the fact that he actually had to almost
Speaker 1: have a break up chat with Tammy's followers. The thing is,
Speaker 1: though he has acknowledged in the past that the only
Speaker 1: reason the pair of them have been successful is because
Speaker 1: they do share everything about their relationship online. So I
Speaker 1: feel like it's almost this closure for people who do
Speaker 1: follow them that he has addressed that he has done wrong.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny because he almost did have
Speaker 1: to share it so publicly on YouTube just.
Speaker 2: To be a bit cynical.
Speaker 1: It is quite self serving because he has just launched
Speaker 1: a podcast with Mitchell Orville that went number one in
Speaker 1: the country as soon as it was launched, and of
Speaker 1: course Mitchell Orville has gained great praise for also releasing
Speaker 1: a similar video sort of apologizing for his past bad
Speaker 1: behavior with drinking and drug taking. So it was quite
Speaker 1: interesting that he followed the same suit and did an
Speaker 1: apology video. It is interesting timing when you do have
Speaker 1: a national podcast to promote well.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just that I.
Speaker 1: Actually think Mitchell has been quite a good influence on Reese,
Speaker 1: and I feel like he has seen the praise that
Speaker 1: Mitchell has got for owning up, you know, to his
Speaker 1: drug issues and the way he might have treated Chloe
Speaker 1: in the past, and he's seen the success Mitchell has had,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's necessarily just him being
Speaker 1: self serving, but maybe he has seen, as I said,
Speaker 1: the success that he's got and wants to copy it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to preach about how to live
Speaker 1: your life when you have that hanging over you that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of negativity, and I feel like Reese
Speaker 1: would be gaining a lot of fans that Mitchell has,
Speaker 1: and a lot of them are looking, as I said,
Speaker 1: to better themselves and to learn from their mistakes. So
Speaker 1: it is interesting that Reese is kind of saying goodbye
Speaker 1: to his past life as an influencer and YouTuber and
Speaker 1: then forging this new identity. Well, the other interesting part
Speaker 1: of this whole story is that Reese's podcast is on
Speaker 1: the same podcast network as Tammy Hembro's.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I found that fascinating because of course that is the
Speaker 1: Spin Studio network, and I was thinking, well, is that
Speaker 1: going to be awkward when they see each other. But
Speaker 1: Reese did address that in the YouTube video and said, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we actually see each other every week when we drop
Speaker 1: the kids off to each other. Well, for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, the Spin Studio network is run by Sam
Speaker 1: Magnan and Courtney Magnet and they are PR wizzards, so
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's been a lot of meetings behind
Speaker 1: closed doors to address the way that they can make
Speaker 1: sure these two look like they are working together and
Speaker 1: happy to be spending more time together. Well, from a
Speaker 1: PR perspective, I think it's a very clever move, and
Speaker 1: it's also gaining more attention to mitchual and Reese's new podcast.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: It is a great rebranding exercise because I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of YouTubers who are wanting to move away
Speaker 1: from it because they do see it as being in
Speaker 1: negative space. And I think podcasting is becoming such a
Speaker 1: huge platform, then influencers want to jump on board and
Speaker 1: maybe have something more interesting and more important to say.
Speaker 2: Well, they've got a ready made audience.
Speaker 1: But Reese did address also in his YouTube video that
Speaker 1: he wanted to step away from YouTube because he said
Speaker 1: he felt uncomfortable in front of the camera and he
Speaker 1: felt like it was negatively impacting his life. So maybe
Speaker 1: now he does have the option of sort of sharing
Speaker 1: parts of his life on his podcast. Maybe that's been
Speaker 1: part of the decision.
Speaker 2: To step Awa.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's because a more mature listener base listens
Speaker 1: to podcasts now. Maybe he feels like he's not going
Speaker 1: to get those same young people that are perhaps throwing
Speaker 1: him hate or trolling him. Yeah, the avenue control is
Speaker 1: a lot harder on a podcast. Obviously, you can write
Speaker 1: negative reviews, but it's not so as intense. One thing
Speaker 1: I thought of when we were talking about Reese is
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of the.
Speaker 2: Scott Disick factor. How Scott Disick.
Speaker 1: Is that loved member of the Kardashian family despite him
Speaker 1: and Courtney not being together, and the Hembros kind of
Speaker 1: remind me of the Australian Kardashians. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: like that he still wants to be connected to the
Speaker 1: family and sort of right on their coattails a little
Speaker 1: bit when you've got kids with somebody, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a difference with Scott Disick. He is always going to
Speaker 1: be part of the Kardashian family because of the connection
Speaker 1: with the children, and it's the same with the Hembros.
Speaker 1: So I mean, from a pr perspective, it's better for
Speaker 1: them to be friendly, and the fact that Tammy she
Speaker 1: announced in a recent YouTube that she's dating somebody. Now
Speaker 1: they've both got partners. It's probably just best for everybody
Speaker 1: that they do genuinely get along, and also from a
Speaker 1: pr perspective, that they're seen to be getting along rather
Speaker 1: than having these petty feuds. Yeah, and what is so
Speaker 1: interesting to look at is the fact that Reese has
Speaker 1: dropped one hundred thousand followers since the breakup from Tammy,
Speaker 1: And if you take a look at social Blade, that
Speaker 1: means he's averaging a loss of twelve thousand followers a month,
Speaker 1: which is pretty huge. Well, London's also dropping in her
Speaker 1: follow account. She is averaging a loss of seven thousand
Speaker 1: followers a day. She did spike on the day that
Speaker 1: Reese actually released the YouTube.
Speaker 2: I think she picked up.
Speaker 1: About one thousand, five hundred followers. I'm assuming people who
Speaker 1: are a little bit interested in finding out work about her.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: He seems to also be not only directing people to
Speaker 1: the podcast, but his new photography page, which just involves
Speaker 1: nude not nude sorry, racy photos of her really. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: what re said in his podcast is he is looking
Speaker 1: at doing things that he actually gets fulfilled. So he
Speaker 1: was basically saying that with his YouTube, he's not enjoying it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like the creativity behind it. So he has
Speaker 1: launched a new photography page. But as you said, a
Speaker 1: lot of the is it just nude photos but they're
Speaker 1: taking quite well sliding Yeah, is it just me? I'm
Speaker 1: going to be cynical again, But I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of people are jumping off YouTube because it's actually hard.
Speaker 1: They have to film with themselves, Normally they have to
Speaker 1: edit it themselves. It seems a lot easier for him
Speaker 1: and Mitchell to go and do a podcast and then
Speaker 1: the team will edit it up and they just have
Speaker 1: to be there. But do you guys think there's going
Speaker 1: to be issues with their podcast? Because if he's no
Speaker 1: longer on YouTube, and if he's stepping away somewhat from Instagram,
Speaker 1: are people actually going to be interested in his life?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think keeping Instagram will keep his audience still interacting
Speaker 1: with him, and he can promote the podcast on there.
Speaker 1: To be honest, his YouTube's weren't that good anyway. I
Speaker 1: kind of disagree, though, I think that YouTube is a
Speaker 1: really important tool. If you're known from being on YouTube,
Speaker 1: You've got to keep that engagement up with your followers,
Speaker 1: because I find lots of people that I follow when
Speaker 1: they don't post anymore, I lose that interest in looking
Speaker 1: at their Instagram stories as well because I don't feel
Speaker 1: connected anymore. Yeah, but I feel like he's one of
Speaker 1: those background characters in a YouTube. He can't be the
Speaker 1: main person. He was sort of like with Shannie and Jonathan.
Speaker 1: He was cool in the background to make a few comments.
Speaker 1: But now that he's got his own YouTube channel, it's
Speaker 1: very cringe. I'm gonna be honest. I used to actually
Speaker 1: watch some of Reese's videos and I've found quite entertaining
Speaker 1: because he does well. He does have the aspect of
Speaker 1: that he is dating London and I do like watching
Speaker 1: couples on YouTube. It's quite interesting because London doesn't have
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel, which I was surprised.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yet, maybe they'll start a couples one up in a
Speaker 1: few months or something the podcast drops. Look, I definitely
Speaker 1: think we'll see Reese Hawkin's return to YouTube. I think
Speaker 1: it's just he wants to establish this new identity and
Speaker 1: he's attracting different type of followers now, so it will
Speaker 1: be really interesting when he decides to go back onto YouTube,
Speaker 1: because he did say he might be dropping a few
Speaker 1: exercise videos here and there. You know, I think it's
Speaker 1: definitely a very clever move. He has clearly evolved from
Speaker 1: this nineteen year old young dad, and he's clearly wanting
Speaker 1: to make more for himself, and I think we should
Speaker 1: applaud him for doing that and being brave enough to
Speaker 1: remove all of the videos and apologize.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good on him.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of looking forward to seeing what actually happens,
Speaker 1: and I do quite enjoy his podcast, I have to admit. Well,
Speaker 1: in regards to his YouTube channel, I don't think we
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier, but he's actually removed every single video
Speaker 1: by the apology, so it will definitely be a fresh
Speaker 1: start for him if he does return. And that video
Speaker 1: is currently trending on YouTube, which is pretty crazy for
Speaker 1: someone's final video. Well, he didn't actually have any ads
Speaker 1: on it either, because when I clicked on it, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, is this going to have like six
Speaker 1: ads on it? But it was a twenty minute video
Speaker 1: with no ads, which was impressive. Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he needs adds revenue, because apparently, according to Google,
Speaker 1: he's worth about five million dollars, and Tammy Hembro is
Speaker 1: worth an estimated sixty million dollars.
Speaker 2: What for, I'm just actually last thing.
Speaker 1: She's got an exercise program that she does, she's got
Speaker 1: HERSASKI collection. Each post she puts up is worth forty
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. Oh god, that's crazy. You don't actually
Speaker 1: think that they're earning that much money. Oh well, I
Speaker 1: guess we'll just have to see what happens and watch
Speaker 1: that space if he does choose to upload any more content.
Speaker 1: I'm also watching if Tammy does a response. Coming up
Speaker 1: after the break, Sky Wheatley angers fans with tone deaf
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Speaker 1: the social media pit and peak of the week, Kate, what.
Speaker 2: Was the peak?
Speaker 1: The peak for me had to be when Anna and
Speaker 1: Tim from The Bachelor shared that they were having a
Speaker 1: baby girl.
Speaker 2: It was so cute.
Speaker 1: They had this really lavish part and they had these
Speaker 1: beautiful floral designs that kind of went into a bit
Speaker 1: of an arch and one side was blue and one
Speaker 1: side was pink, and they released a slow mo video
Speaker 1: of the pink confetti being burst open, and Anna's reaction
Speaker 1: was so beautiful. She just burst into tears. She looked
Speaker 1: so happy. Well, I think this baby is going to
Speaker 1: be so gorgeous because if you look at the mum
Speaker 1: and dad, it's going to be a pretty special baby.
Speaker 2: Well, Kate, what about the Pit of the week.
Speaker 1: Well, the pit this week was from Sky Wheatley, and
Speaker 1: she just seems to be continuing to be extremely tone deaf.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy her content, but I get surprised when
Speaker 1: she puts things out like this and she gets negative feedback,
Speaker 1: but she doesn't take her post down. So she released
Speaker 1: a picture of herself doing the Vogue challenge and she
Speaker 1: had all these topless photos of herself hosing put Vogue
Speaker 1: Magazine over the top of it.
Speaker 2: What is the Vogue Challenge?
Speaker 1: Well, that's where it gets awkward, because the Vogue Challenge
Speaker 1: was created as a tribute to the Black Lives movement,
Speaker 1: and it started so that you could see some more
Speaker 1: diverse people on magazine covers. And it was sort of
Speaker 1: in response to Vogue coming out and saying in there
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven year history, they've only ever
Speaker 1: had one black photographer and only twenty one black women
Speaker 1: on the front cover.
Speaker 2: So Wogue actually admitted that today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Anna Wintor came out and wrote a letter
Speaker 1: to her staff apologizing, saying that they needed to get
Speaker 1: more black editors and writers and photographers and more creatives
Speaker 1: in the industry. And that sort of snowballed. So we've
Speaker 1: been seeing an amazing array of photos of black women
Speaker 1: on Vogue and it's the hashtag has been used one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand times. I mean, what the hell
Speaker 1: is Skyweekly thinking? But she's just not educated on this
Speaker 1: topic or something. But didn't James Charles get slammed for
Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing as.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1: So James Charles got slammed and then Sky's there and
Speaker 1: it seemed very self indulgent because she didn't just share
Speaker 1: one photo. It was so many different photos, and her
Speaker 1: followers actually politely told her, Hey, this is actually for
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matters movement. What you're doing is actually wrong.
Speaker 1: You're using the hashtag incorrectly, and the post is still up.
Speaker 1: It's the least exciting to look at.
Speaker 2: Please give it a thumbs, give it a life, because
Speaker 2: it really supports my channel. If you're insignificant.
Speaker 1: Asscare Now let's get into the reality rap. And first
Speaker 1: we're going to be discussing Big Brother. And I'm so
Speaker 1: excited because it is finally getting good. I know, I
Speaker 1: actually am up to date with all the episodes. I'm
Speaker 1: quite proud about that because I've also been watching Master Chef,
Speaker 1: so it's a bit of a feat to fit both
Speaker 1: of them in.
Speaker 2: And it is getting really good.
Speaker 1: As you said, I think you've got to push past
Speaker 1: and think of it as a totally new show because
Speaker 1: it's not like the old Big Brother, but it still
Speaker 1: has some of those good elements. And then there's new
Speaker 1: good elements that I'm really enjoying with the whole talking
Speaker 1: about nominations and all the challenges. All my favorite is Angela,
Speaker 1: and at the moment they've got her acting as little
Speaker 1: sister or as a big sister. No, it's little sister,
Speaker 1: little sister, and I think that is an excellent element.
Speaker 1: And I mean, the only thing that I don't like
Speaker 1: is the fact that this whole voting process is getting
Speaker 1: rid of the big characters on the show. So that's
Speaker 1: obviously why they're trying to keep her as part of
Speaker 1: the show. I was so happy when they announced this twist,
Speaker 1: because if she had left, it would have been so crap.
Speaker 1: But I am loving Angela being in control of the house.
Speaker 1: And I loved when she pulled in Garth last night
Speaker 1: and led him in on the secret. And I just
Speaker 1: love because she's so manipulative. She's excellent for the show.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of in two minds about the fact she
Speaker 1: was trying to get rid of Ian. I understand they're
Speaker 1: trying to break that alliance there, but I am so
Speaker 1: over Kieran, Like can he just leave already? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: understand that, but I think I was happy that Ian
Speaker 1: went because I think he's done his time. I think
Speaker 1: we've seen and laughed at him, and what I was really.
Speaker 2: Surprised about him. We laughed with him, well, a bit
Speaker 2: of both.
Speaker 1: I was pretty surprised because they've been saying, you know,
Speaker 1: he's this socially inepped person. But it came out that
Speaker 1: he's had a girlfriend for four years and there's been
Speaker 1: pictures of him out partying. Now I'm not saying I
Speaker 1: think it was an act, but I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 1: they were trying to make us all feel so sorry
Speaker 1: for him. So he's still going out with the girlfriend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's still dating the girl.
Speaker 2: Oh why have we heard anything about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well that's where it gets interesting because he came
Speaker 1: out and he was interviewed and said, look, he mentioned
Speaker 1: the girlfriend.
Speaker 2: It was just edited out.
Speaker 1: And he also said that his favorite night of the
Speaker 1: show was when he and the ball guy I can't
Speaker 1: remember what his name is they dressed up in drag
Speaker 1: and they put on a bit of a show, and
Speaker 1: of course that wasn't shown. And it turns out that
Speaker 1: a lot of the Big Brother contestants are getting annoyed
Speaker 1: about how it's being edited. They're saying that all the
Speaker 1: like feel good bonding moments, they're having no one seeing
Speaker 1: anything of it, and I think we need a few
Speaker 1: of those moments though. I think that is what the
Speaker 1: show is lacking. They could literally put out a whole
Speaker 1: second series of Big Brother just based on the actual
Speaker 1: fun stuff that they didn't show, because all they're showing
Speaker 1: is stuff that's based on who they're going to vote
Speaker 1: for and all that strategy strategy. Well, why not be
Speaker 1: a bit like Love Ireland and have that, you know,
Speaker 1: that show that used to be on on the Sunday
Speaker 1: night or something and it was sort of all the
Speaker 1: fun moments.
Speaker 2: I think that would work well.
Speaker 1: Well. An insider has actually said that the Big Brother
Speaker 1: contestants have a WhatsApp group where they vent about their
Speaker 1: bad edits, and it's come out that Garth has slammed
Speaker 1: the show for not showing any of the fun parts,
Speaker 1: as I've just said, but Dan has also apparently stopped
Speaker 1: watching altogether. Well, I must admit I've actually stopped watching,
Speaker 1: and I'm in two minds whether to actually watch a
Speaker 1: whole show exact really good. That is interesting about Dan though,
Speaker 1: because initially when they introduced him, I thought, oh, he's
Speaker 1: going to be the fitsy of the show, the lovable
Speaker 1: Arakin and they've shown a real strategic side to him.
Speaker 2: Well that's because the whole show is now about strategy.
Speaker 1: But how easy is it for producers to actually manipulate
Speaker 1: how all these people are portrayed when all they're showing
Speaker 1: is half an hour? No sorry, And when you take
Speaker 1: out the ads, literally twenty minutes from a twenty four
Speaker 1: hour day, it's not even twenty four hour days. Really
Speaker 1: three days packed into one.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true.
Speaker 1: Can I just say this revelation about Ian has made
Speaker 1: me think? Is it the girlfriend that forgot to feed
Speaker 1: the spider? Is that why the spider's lied? Or gosh?
Speaker 2: I hope not.
Speaker 1: Well, moving on to my other favorite reality TV show
Speaker 1: that Amy and Soaphy. You need to start watching his
Speaker 1: Master Chef now it's hotting up because I think there's
Speaker 1: like seven contestants left.
Speaker 2: Still seven contestants. My good.
Speaker 1: This show has been a marathon. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: been going on for eff and I love it. It's
Speaker 1: been getting me through isolation. And interestingly, the bookkeepers have
Speaker 1: tipped Amelia Jackson to win who, which I'm quite shocked
Speaker 1: about because she's always been an outsider. It's always been
Speaker 1: about Poe and Reynold and even Callum. But Amelia's the
Speaker 1: woman that cooks amazing cakes. So I'm really surprised because
Speaker 1: apparently a production insider has leaked that information. And now
Speaker 1: you know all the bookkeepers have her as well.
Speaker 2: It might be worth putting a bit of money on them.
Speaker 1: Well, not really, because the odds are pretty bad. I
Speaker 1: think we're just moving on to some Bachelor news and
Speaker 1: we have to address some of the horrific trolling Abby
Speaker 1: Chatfield has brought everyone's attention to. Now. This trolling was
Speaker 1: when she was on the Bachelor, and she has saved
Speaker 1: some of the screenshots and some of the voice messages,
Speaker 1: and they're absolutely revolting. Oh my god, this was disgusting.
Speaker 1: I could not believe it. There was one man that
Speaker 1: sent her a voice note saying that he was going
Speaker 1: to strangle.
Speaker 2: Her to death.
Speaker 1: I just had chills going down my spine listening to this,
Speaker 1: so I can't imagine actually receiving it.
Speaker 2: It was horrific.
Speaker 1: There was another woman who said she'd kill herself if
Speaker 1: she was related to Abby, and it's just so troubling
Speaker 1: that people think is acceptable to send these sort of
Speaker 1: messages to other people. I actually couldn't believe it because
Speaker 1: Abby did keep up the people's photos and their names
Speaker 1: and zooming in on them.
Speaker 2: They look just like normal girls.
Speaker 1: I just was like, who the fuck would send this
Speaker 1: with their own name and photo attached. I just don't
Speaker 1: get why they do it. I just I just doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. And Abby actually touched on
Speaker 1: the fact that she's got a hard drive full of
Speaker 1: hundreds of comments like the ones she's shared, and she's
Speaker 1: actually planning to do some good with them in the future.
Speaker 1: So I look forward to seeing what projects she's got
Speaker 1: planned well getting into awkward Turtle. And I've actually got
Speaker 1: a pretty funny story that happened this week to Kate,
Speaker 1: Sophie and I. So we were driving in our car
Speaker 1: and we've often discussed how funny it is, well not funny,
Speaker 1: but how annoying it is when people look at you
Speaker 1: at the traffic.
Speaker 2: Was not people, it's men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you stop at the traffic light and
Speaker 1: you accidentally glance to the person that's to the right
Speaker 1: of you, and they look at you, and then they
Speaker 1: won't stop staring, and it's off for trad ees. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, it's always all these men in like
Speaker 1: a trading car, or like young guys with pea plates on. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So we were driving in the car and we noticed
Speaker 1: these trade's were staring in and we were a bit like, oh,
Speaker 1: of course, we must have sounded so arrogant, but we
Speaker 1: weren't trying to be. We were just saying that young
Speaker 1: girls often get boys staring at them. It's like those
Speaker 1: guys that drive past and twoed at you for no,
Speaker 1: it's just because it's a girl walking gosh. Anyway, so
Speaker 1: we were trying to get ahead of them because they
Speaker 1: were still staring as we drove off a lot kind
Speaker 1: of sort of gesturing, and we're like, God, this is
Speaker 1: going a bit far.
Speaker 2: What's this about.
Speaker 1: Well, it turns out that Sophie's fuel door was open.
Speaker 1: So that's a little door where you put your petrol in.
Speaker 1: We would like the biggest wayan kiss because we were
Speaker 1: trying not to pay attention to these people when they
Speaker 1: were just honestly trying to help us out. Well, thank
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