1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: The Right Nest Channel Swim is on this Saturday. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: It is the most popular marathon swim in the world, 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: I believe, and it's been held every year since nineteen 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: ninety one. It's a nineteen point seven kilometer journey from 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Conslow Beach to Rotnest Island and a veteran of the 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: swim and doing it again. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: This week we can yeh back on again. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Is Chris Anderson joining us? Now, Good morning Chris, Chris. 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: Hey guys, how are you good? Mate? 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Veteran of course earth to Rottenest. 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: Now I've sat on the beach and I've looked outst 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: and I thought, nope. 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, some days it looks a lot closer. 14 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Than it does. It does look closer than others. 15 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: Some days you can't even say it at all. 16 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: How I mean, how many times have you done it? Now? 17 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: This will be seventeen seventeen. 18 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: And what got you into it? 19 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: We're at an engagement party actually about fifteen years ago, 20 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 4: and a few mates said you want swim to Rotenest 21 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: and I thought they were mad. Yeah, as an we're 22 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: on it become a better idea as you hear a 23 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 4: few points of personalities, they say Dutch courage yeah. 24 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Next week we'd signed up. 25 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: And after the first year I did it, I thought 26 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: this is something I want to do forever. So wow, 27 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: I was bitten straight away and progressed from a team 28 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: into a duo into a solo and yeah, now it's 29 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: something I can't miss it. 30 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: Sort of, it's stuck with me, Chris. 31 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 5: I've been down there for the start. It's such an 32 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 5: exciting community kind of vibe. But when you're actually swimming, 33 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 5: you got to take the training seriously, don't you. 34 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get into it early. 35 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: There's no use being at the fifteen k mark and 36 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: realizing that you probably should have done a bit more 37 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 4: training three or four months ago, because it's too late. 38 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, getting into the training early is important. If 39 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: you're doing a solo, you probably want to train the 40 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: best part of a year. Yeah, teams Jewe's you can 41 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: probably sort of give it six months, but there's a 42 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: fair bit of training involved. Getting some open water work, 43 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: whether that be in the races or just down the beach, 44 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: but plenty of pool work and making sure you're ready 45 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: for the race. 46 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: Have you encountered people that have on a whim thought 47 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: I might have a go at this and then you know, 48 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: haven't done the training, haven't thought I'm an okay swimmer, 49 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: and then struck them out, you know, len out. 50 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: Half way across. There's a few people. 51 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: I saw a solo about four or five years ago 52 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: doing breastroke at the ten k mark, and I thought, 53 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: if you're. 54 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Doing breastroke now, you're in for a long afternoon. Yeah, 55 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: down for a long time. 56 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 5: Hey, what's it like at the start, especially solo, but 57 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 5: even with the teams, when you're first swimmer in, it 58 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 5: must be a bit like a bunfight. 59 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a bit. The adrenaline's pumping big time. 60 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: The crowd on the beach and seeing all the waves 61 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: of people go off, and you really sort of get 62 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 4: the sense of the occasion. You see all the boats 63 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: out in the ocean in front of you, So yeah, 64 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: it is a bit of a bon fight. At the start, 65 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: you sort of I tend to hang back and let 66 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: everyone race because it's twenty k's like you said, Lisa, 67 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, there's no diving at the start and being 68 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: in front of after fifty meters because you're you're probably 69 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: gonna fall in a hole a bit later on. 70 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 5: So many people in the water at once you get 71 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: a whack on the back of the head, or there's 72 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: elbows and knees and. 73 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: Feet and yeah, yeah, you've got to be careful. And 74 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: especially when you pick up your paddler it's at the 75 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: five on a meter mark. There's skis and swimmers going everywhere, 76 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: and then when the boats join in after a k 77 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: it adds another element to it. 78 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: So do you know what the percentage is of people 79 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: that do drop out halfway across and it's like I 80 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: can't keep going. 81 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: Well, that's all dependent on whether you know, last year 82 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: was quite quite windy. 83 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: We got to southerly quite early. 84 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of chops choppy. 85 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: The d n F rate was quite high last year. 86 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 4: But if we've got a strong easterly and it's not 87 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: much swell and the wind doesn't get up from the 88 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: south like it does in Perth every day in summer, 89 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: then your DNFs are quite quite likely. 90 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 5: So that's the name of our duo we called did 91 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: not finish dns did not start. 92 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: It did not start. 93 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: Now I believe this year you're mentoring a group of 94 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: school dads who've never done it before. 95 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: How did that? Did that also involve a pub. 96 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: Or it was our boys footy wind up. Of course 97 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: you have a grade three footy wind up at a pub. 98 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: Yes, And we. 99 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: Started chatting and a couple of days later I text 100 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: one of the boys and said, remember that chat we 101 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: had and it was a bit of a pregnant pause 102 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: before he got back to me and yeah, we got 103 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: together and said, yeah, we're going to do this. 104 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: And now the boy's been great. 105 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: They're pretty fit athletes themselves but hadn't done the swim, 106 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: so just sort of getting them into the training and 107 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: getting the head around what's involved and what race day 108 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: involves has. 109 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: Been good fun. So we're looking forward. We've all got 110 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: accommodation for the weekend. 111 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: So I'm guessing it's a very good night on Saturday 112 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: night and that you wouldn't get any accommodation for level money. 113 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: Is going off. 114 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you need to train hard for the race, 115 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: but I've also made it clear to the boys training 116 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: hard for the post race. 117 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: Is very valable. 118 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, balance life, balance. 119 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: I don't want even better day to clock. 120 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: You don't want to do you know. 121 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 5: What about simple things? May what do you eat the 122 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 5: night before and that kind of stuff. We talked to 123 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 5: footballers about what they do. You load up on pasta 124 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: or is it? 125 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably stay away from the massive steak. 126 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: Maybe have that sort of Wednesday Thursday night, but yeah, yeah, 127 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 4: a bit of pasta and seal and that sort of stuff. 128 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: Try and get some sleep. 129 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: That's the hardest thing really, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Race eve 130 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: is you know, you know you've got to get to sleep. 131 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: You go to bed early and then you lay there 132 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 4: for hours and then you wake up early. So you 133 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: know you need to be on the beach an hour 134 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: before you wave start pretty much. So I'll be on 135 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: the beach by about six, seen some friends off tenn 136 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: and we hit the water. 137 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 5: So you don't want to swim at four times in overnight. 138 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: You tend to do that a lot. 139 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, after a while you said, relax a bit more, 140 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: and with that experience it makes a lot. 141 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: Easier, of course. 142 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: So what advice would you have for any first time 143 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: when I was doing it this weekend? 144 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: Don't over race is probably the key thing they don't 145 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: hand out. You know, finishes medals at the ten k mark, 146 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: so pace yourself. Be aware that the swell and the 147 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 4: wind will get up in the back half of the race. 148 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: When that for our doctor comes in. So your hardest 149 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: stretch of the race is really probably from about twelve 150 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: to thirteen k's through to Agent Righteah, because you don't 151 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: you don't get the protection of the islands, Garden Island 152 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: and Rottenest, So that's probably the hardest you've been in 153 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: the water. Maybe five hours you're starting to physically mentally 154 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 4: break down. But that little stretch there for that to 155 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: our passages is probably the hardest. Once you hit the 156 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: ad and K mark, you're inside the bay, you're protected 157 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: by Thompson Bay and Philip Rock and you start to 158 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: see all the boats and smell the barbecues and I. 159 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: Don't think there's anything like the color of that turquoise 160 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: water just around Rottnest. When you hit that, it must 161 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: be the best feeling. 162 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably about two and a half k's out you 163 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: start to see the ocean and floor rise up. There's 164 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: a lot more marine life, good marine life, I might add, 165 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: good marine life, yes, the ones you want to see. Yeah, 166 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: of course, when you see the reef and the weeds 167 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: and you start to see all the spectator boat's and 168 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: everyone funnels in, so it's a lot busier with give. 169 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: Me that boost to get that last ye he does. 170 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 5: Chris, you mentioned that there's no medals for the ten 171 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 5: k mark, but have you seen inexperienced wimens go out 172 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 5: and try and be like a Campbell sister in the 173 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 5: first two let me cooked. 174 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: You see some people take off the beach and look 175 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: if you can sustain it. Yeah, it's not going to happen. 176 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: I just tend to hang back and let them go 177 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: nuts and yeah, and sort of do my own pace 178 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: at the start because it's a long day and if 179 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: you don't then you're you know, you're going to. 180 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: Be in a world hurt. 181 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: Well, like I said, nineteen point seven k's it's in 182 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: the water with the chop. 183 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: It's very impressive. Chris. Good luck this weekend. 184 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: Good luck to all the swimmers, paddlers, support staff. It's 185 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: an amazing event. To the Channel Swim Association South thirty 186 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: two the naming got sponsor. They're fantastic, So good luck 187 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: to everyone. I'll see you at the pub and. 188 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, boy me the big that's one there buys the drinks, 189 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 5: ignores haded I not. 190 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't see if I know the best Next 191 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: us Jez