1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: We do know that a new hotel, which will be 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: integrated within the Darwin Convention Center, is going to be 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: built at the Darwen Waterfront. That is what has been 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: announced this morning, with expressions of interest being called for 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks from the private sector to develop 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: the Darwin Convention Center Hotel to join the thriving tourism, 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: residential and hospitality offerings that we've already got there at 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: the Darwin Waterfront. And joining me in the studio to 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more is Sam Burke, who 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: is the general manager of the Darwen Waterfront Corporation. 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Sam get Akadie. Great to be here. 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, good to have you in the studio. Now, tell 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: me a little bit more about this hotel because I 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: always thought it was going to sort of be around 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the other side of the waterfront, but it sounds like 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be right there next to the Convention Center. 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: So this is a really important day for the waterfront 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: and the Waterfront Redevelopment master plan. The Darwin Convention Center 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: Hotel is the first cab off the rank as part 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: of this redevelopment, and what it reflects is the fact 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: that we've done a full market analysis, and the result 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: of that is developers are keen to build a hotel 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: attached to the convention center. Now there is a lack 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 3: of stock in the market for that higher end convention 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: business hotel market. And if you think you're a visitor 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: here for a conference, you'll be able to stay in 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: a world class hotel attached to the convention center with 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: the new Laroche Cultural Center across the road and ultimately 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: surrounded by an incredible redeveloped water from just. 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Paint a picture for us, because I know in my mind, 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, where is this going to fit? 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so where it is. 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: If you picture the convention center at the back, so 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: the harbour side of the convention center, there is a 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: car park at the rear of the convention center. That 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: car park is about twenty eight hundred square meters and 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: it beautifully fits a tower of about eight stories with 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: two hundred to two hundred and fifty hotel rooms of 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: international brand, and you'll be able to walk straight into 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: the convention center through air condition. 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Hallways and so about eight stories, two hundred to two 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty rooms, and at this point in time, 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: it's now out to market for expressions of interest. 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: That's right. So it's a two step process. 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: The non Churcher government and Waterfront Corporation have engaged experts 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: in hotel projects called CBRE. What they have done and 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: will do is get operators together and they'll also get 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: developers together, because obviously there's two parts. You need someone 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: to fund and build a hotel, and then you need 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: those main brands to run and operate the hotel. What 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: I can say, and what the government has been very 53 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: pleased with, is how much interest there is in this 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: and like I said, the commercial feasibility came back. This 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: site works today, it works even better with our Waterfront 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: master Plan redevelopment and then ultimately the. 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Old luxury hotel site. 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: So the old Western Landbridge site will one day be 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: developed with probably a very very high end luxury hotel project. 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: But this is the one that makes sense today. And 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: it's all about consolidating the waterfront and getting everything in 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: the right sequence. 63 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah right, and it is all part of well the 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: master plan. Talk me through then that this updated master plan, 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: because I understand that that's now sort of come through 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: as well. We will try to shoe the flyover on 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: the Mix one oh four nine Facebook page so people 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: can see it, but. 69 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: Talk us through that. 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we were thrilled and overwhelmed with the public's 71 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 3: response to our first iteration of the waterfront master plan. 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: We have another incredible fly through showing the new design. Essentially, 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: the new design incorporates the visuals of. 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: The conventions and a hotel. 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: But importantly for those that have been following this very closely, 76 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: we've moved the surf park so it still has a 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: full scale, competition ready surf park, but it is now 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: at a different end of the precinct where we can 79 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: fit a different product in. And we've expanded our incredible 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: concept of a tropical snorkeling and diving lagoon with three 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: D printed and natural corals and basically a world first is. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: What we're going to deliver through this project. 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Is this going to get off the ground? Sam? Like, 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are thinking, oh, looks great, 85 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: sounds like it would be a fabulous idea, But where's 86 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: shown me the money basically. 87 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: And that's why it's so important we understand that. 88 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: And being around Dawhen for a while, you do get 89 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: fatigue with some of these concepts. But the important part 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: is we are putting this package together sequentially. So the 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: first cab off the rank is the one with the 92 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: greatest commercial feasibility, which is the Convention Center hotel. 93 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: We will get that done. 94 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: It's going to be an incredible addition that then underpins 95 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: the investment in the next stages. 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: So the next. 97 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: Logical one is the surf park, which will be viewed 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: as a sort of public private partnership. And then the 99 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: rest of the precinct really is public domain, so that's 100 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: not ticketed, it's open to the public, and you want 101 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: to build that around your cornerstone private investment. So we've 102 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: got to get the private an investment in and then 103 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: surround that with the public camer. 104 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Now, with that hotel, how soon do you anticipate that 105 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: it would actually be operational, that people are going to 106 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: be able to stay there. 107 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: We know that the demand is there now, and in fact, 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: the Darwin hotel market has rebounded better than any other 109 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: place in the country. We're sort of forty seven percent 110 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: up on pre COVID numbers, so pre COVID, not during COVID. 111 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: Pre COVID. I think the. 112 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: Next best jurisdiction is one percent up so the hotel 113 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: market in Darwin is booming. There's no better time than 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: now to get it done. So CBRE are testing the market. 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: There'll be an EOI in a couple of weeks and 116 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: we would hope that with the response that we expect, 117 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: we'll have construction sort of dry season within twelve months. 118 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Wow, so that soon? 119 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 120 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: What about staffing it, I know that's not going to 121 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: be your issue, but staffing, you know, like staffing levels 122 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: at the moment are pretty hard to sort of fill. 123 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: You reckon, that's going to be a tough juggle. 124 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: And you know, Darwin's all about getting population growth and 125 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: that's what under per everything we're trying to do at 126 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: the Waterfront is present a lifestyle that is attractive. If 127 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: you're going to work in a hotel somewhere in Australia, 128 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: you're going to look at the destinations, what do they offer. 129 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: We want Darwin to be the standout, not just in 130 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: the dry season, and we think the whole vision for 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: the waterfront, along with other projects that government are pursuing 132 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: around the place in the oil and gas and manufacturing 133 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: and renewable sectors, will bring people here and that's how 134 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: you get staff hotel staff are going to be either 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: career hospitality people. This will be a brand new, feature 136 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: flagship hotel. Why wouldn't you want to work there? Or 137 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: it will be more casual staff that hopefully you're here 138 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: because other family members are pursuing jobs and lifestyle. 139 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: So now, what about to anybody who's listening this morning 140 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: who might be concerned about development about another you know 141 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: about there being sort of a fairly I know it's 142 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: not a real high rise, but it's still fairly high 143 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: hotel there at the convention center or at the waterfront, 144 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: what would you say to them? 145 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've done a lot of work and that 146 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: will all be released publicly that shows you lines and 147 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: all the rest of it. So it was important when 148 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: we looked at the site you might think it's relatively small. 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: We did what's called a massing study and concepts so 150 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: you can see how we can fit the type of 151 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: hotel we want to achieve, what it looks like, how 152 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: view lines might be impacted. We've even done shade studies 153 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: to show how as the sun moves, does it shade 154 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: things inappropriately. 155 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: It fits really really well for what we're achieving. 156 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: And it has no material impact on the surrounding area. 157 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: But we'll obviously get feedback on that, so developers will 158 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: look at our design, they'll tweak it, and then that 159 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: will obviously go out again for public feedback. 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: But when you look at. 161 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: The convention center, when you look at the space in 162 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: the waterfront, when you look at the harbor views from 163 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: that site, and when you think about the incredible Larochie 164 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 3: Cultural Center being built across the road, it's a no brainer. 165 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Like our destination, if you're going to book a conference, 166 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: you want to be able to have a genuine cultural 167 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: experience at that cultural center. You want to be able 168 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: to have great accommodation in Darwin, and this adds to that, 169 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: and you want a world class convention center, which we 170 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: already haven't run, so we hope it's a great package. 171 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: Add to that surf. 172 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: Parks, tropical lagoons, heated and temperature control pools, and new 173 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: restaurants and everything else we're doing with the master plan. 174 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: It's really exciting for Dawn. 175 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, I think people will be 176 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: really interested to see that updated master plan as well, 177 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: so we will make sure that we share that as 178 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: soon as we can so they can get a. 179 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: Good look at it. 180 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Sam Burke, the general manager of the Darwen Waterfront Corporation, 181 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: always good to catch up with you. Thank you so 182 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: much for your time this morning. 183 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie,