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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not too sure, Ash, I don't know myself personally. Friend,

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Speaker 2: then we had someone here today who could help us

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Speaker 2: forecast what it'll be.

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Speaker 1: What about Sam Mack? Oh?

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Speaker 2: That took us four hours to script and record that

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Speaker 1: Was it worth it? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Sam Mack is, of course the beloved weather man on

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Speaker 2: Sunrise since twenty sixteen. His, of course, engaged to Rebecca.

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Speaker 2: They have two beautiful children, Margo, who was born about

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Speaker 2: two years ago, and Mabel Ash Get this, Get this?

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Speaker 2: Three weeks?

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Speaker 1: Three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's knee deep in the newborn.

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Speaker 3: Phase, fresh out of the oven. I tell you right

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Speaker 3: now he looks great. Must be all that TV makeup.

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Speaker 1: Again? Three hours to script that. One.

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Speaker 2: One of the unique things about Sam mac is the

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Speaker 2: a very unique start to a beautiful relationship.

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Speaker 3: Yes, fell in love over zoom before finally being able

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Speaker 3: wasn't catfishing lovely. Oh god, it's another three hours for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get the man himself on the mic so

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Speaker 2: he can tell his story. Welcome back to three doting dads.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mattie Jamsh I am quadruple Threat, Sam Mack, quadruple Threat.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the four things are yet podcast.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can workshop what they might We'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is about

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Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the relatable. And if you've

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Speaker 2: come wanting any advice, normally we say don't bother. However,

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Speaker 2: today we have an experienced dad who's currently going through

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Speaker 1: Looks quite fresh. Yeah, I've really forgot Thank you. I'm

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Speaker 2: Hilt in his back to be honest. Are you wearing

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Speaker 1: going into battle. We're ready to deliver Australia their weather.

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Speaker 3: They're like Matt's they do Matt's makeup and then I

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Speaker 1: Hang on, should I know about this? How do you

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Speaker 1: It is beautiful somewhere in this there's a lorkey on

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Speaker 3: now fiance when.

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Speaker 1: You can't leave the house. How did that work? Yeah,

434
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: it was a really for everyone, such a strange time.

435
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 1: But like the nature of my job as weather man is,

436
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: I'm just going to put it's so funny, like I

437
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: saw it in the corner of my eye, and I'm like,

438
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 1: I don't know what level of professionalism these guys are

439
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: do they just ignore the cat walking across the table

440
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: with mini litter stuck to its book.

441
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Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes you just walk through and if it's just

442
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: Matt and I we'll just we'll just carry off.

443
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I around that time. TV's doctor Chris Brown

444
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: is good made of mine. We formed a band I

445
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: remember that you, Yeah, called Tone Deaf Leopard strictly covers

446
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: and strictly fifteen to twenty second covers and with costumes.

447
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: So we were a band that was more about the

448
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: visual than the audio, which is twenty seconds.

449
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 3: Like, I've dabbled in the guitar all my life, but

450
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: I can only ever play twenty seconds.

451
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 1: Okay, you played the chorus and I'm like, all right,

452
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: move on to the next song.

453
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Speaker 2: Do you think did that help or hinder the early

454
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: stages of the relationship with Beck Well.

455
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Speaker 1: I feel like Chris's jawline brought a lot of attention

456
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: to my socials. No, we were just mucking around. I

457
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: think there was that weird period where you could have

458
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Speaker 1: four people in a house and you had to be

459
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Speaker 1: standing on your left foot and singing. There were so

460
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Speaker 1: many rules. Anyway, Chris and I would have a few drinks,

461
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: play some songs, dress up. It was just a fun

462
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: Saturday night and long story short. One of Chris's friends

463
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: was friends with Rebecca, my fiance, and she was in

464
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: Melbourne and Victoria the world's worst most lockdown Oh yeah,

465
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: a state in the world, And she said to me, Hey,

466
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Speaker 1: I think you get along with my friend beck And

467
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: I said, all right, well, she's requested the next song

468
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: she had because we just we wanted to do a

469
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: particular song. I'm like, okay, I'll just tag her in it.

470
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: And that was literally how we kind of with each other.

471
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: And we got chatting from there, and then I think

472
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Speaker 1: she her family live all over the world. She was

473
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: pretty lonely at that time, living by herself, like a

474
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: lot of Victorians, And it just became like a daily

475
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: check in, how are you doing today? What are the

476
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: numbers today? And then over time we do, hey, let's

477
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: do a zoom on a Friday night, We'll do like

478
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: the grony nights, so we can make negronis and have

479
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Speaker 1: a drink, listen to some music. And it became this

480
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Speaker 1: really I just loved. I got excited. I look forward

481
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Speaker 1: to those moments where we would get to chat to

482
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Speaker 1: each other. I could feel it was also that thing

483
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 1: if we weren't sure if it was a romantic thing

484
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: or if it was just like, are we making a

485
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Speaker 1: great friend out of this? And if I was, that's

486
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: totally cool. But it got to a point where I

487
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: was like, all right, the borders are riving a bit

488
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: of pressure. It's been a few months. I think we

489
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: need a meet in person, and then we did.

490
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, like from a pandemic, how many good things

491
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: have come from it? Yeah, I mean the pandemic has

492
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: changed my life completely in what way. I didn't do

493
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 3: any of this was I was a corporate dog pretty much.

494
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: And like hearing a story like yours where it's like

495
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: you've you've found love during that for a time where

496
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: the whole world was suffering essentially, and we've we've been

497
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: you know, put on house arrest and people are dying

498
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: and all sorts of stuff.

499
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: But there now things have blossomed out of it. Totally wild,

500
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: it really is. It's like you can't imagine or preempt

501
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: how those paths would go in that direction, but they do.

502
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: And I actually wanted to write a song about it,

503
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: which was we found Love in a hopeless place, and

504
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: I found out that I had already been done. Rihanna

505
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: Hurriy beat me to it. It was about the pandemic.

506
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: That was my experience. Yeah, it's to be honest.

507
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: I read somewhere and like obviously anything you read online

508
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: in magazines.

509
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: It's all true.

510
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: I heard that you spoke every single day for six months?

511
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: Is that true? That's true.

512
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Speaker 2: It's me sick.

513
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm very lonely.

514
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: Then what's it like the pressure then that you put

515
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: on yourself. You've got this amazing relationship over six months,

516
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: speaking every day, every time you speak, you love it,

517
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: you're feeling it, get tingles. Then what's it like that

518
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: first meetup in person? I don't really get nervous very often,

519
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: even for TV. I've never like, nerves aren't something, thankfully

520
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: that I've had to battle with. I mean, I get

521
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: a little bit anxious and excited for something to go

522
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: well or something to work out in a positive way.

523
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Speaker 2: But I don't get nerves, So I wasn't really nervous.

524
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: I felt so comfortable and calm with her already from

525
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: our chats zoom.

526
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Speaker 1: Et cetera. Obviously it's a little bit different in person.

527
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: You know, does she walk with a limp like all

528
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: of these things? No, I'm joking out, but it's like

529
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: there's very does have really good filters? No, not at all.

530
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: I wear makeup. So I think I was just hoping

531
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Speaker 1: that it would be what it had been so far

532
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: over that five or six months, and it was that

533
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: and better, like instantly felt calm. She's so non TV

534
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: and that, and that's a weird thing to say, but

535
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: in my world, like I'm constantly meeting people in TV

536
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: and media, and you know, it's a bubble that we

537
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: work in. It's not like it's not a normal industry.

538
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: And there's lots of great things to that, but there's

539
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: lots of things that are very superficial and not real

540
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: to that. And so with Beck, instantly she really didn't

541
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: know who I was in terms of like TV. When

542
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: she met Koshi for the first time, she said to him, Oh,

543
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: do you go for Adelaide or port Adelaide. He's the

544
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: chairman of Port Adelaide. You will not meet anyone more

545
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: known as a port Adelaide supporter. So she's sounds like, wow, yes,

546
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: doesn't look like it will be the judge of that.

547
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: So had you told her, and this is me prying,

548
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: had you told her that you loved her?

549
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't anywhere near that. It was just we really

550
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: enjoyed each other each other's company. We wanted to meet

551
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: in person. We certainly were nowhere near that, And it

552
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: took a little while to get to that, which I

553
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: think is great. I think it's it slowed things down.

554
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: It gave us time to actually get to know each

555
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: other properly as people before it became anything you know,

556
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: visual or physical or any of those things. It became like,

557
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: I really like this person is a sound.

558
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: Worse and we ever worried over that time that you

559
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: were getting catfished.

560
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't. No, I was good because I had the

561
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: friend recommendation. I would have been a pretty awful prayer.

562
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to set you up, and then you guys

563
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: have sets up and accounts. Chris Brown, it's just does

564
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: have a great jawline.

565
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: I did binge a lot of Catfish TV show when

566
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: I was Yeah, it's a good show, and that scares

567
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 3: me a little bit.

568
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: So I had to ask the question, you just don't

569
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: know question. There's so many things now even that I go, yeah,

570
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: you don't know. But if that was a prank, money mate, right? Actually,

571
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: when my MANK calls me and it's a legitimate calling

572
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: my bank, I don't engage with it anymore. I know

573
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't engage and it really is the bank because

574
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: they've emailed me follow ups. I've seen the name of that

575
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: could just be sophisticated and setting up b I.

576
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: Check the voicemail and it's like, this is a thing

577
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: for me, and I'd be like several.

578
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Years Catfish, What a show, What a great show. Then

579
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: at what point after you Mettt? Sorry, after I met Loretta?

580
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: So when I was born? So yeah, I've broken him.

581
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: I've broken him every wrong with the Catfish.

582
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: I can't think about Catfish.

583
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Sorry.

584
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: With Rebecca, after you start dating in person, you guys,

585
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: like people would say that you move quite quickly in

586
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: terms of having your first child. At what point do

587
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: you start saying are we going to have kids?

588
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what, the early days of our dating

589
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: was a bit different to yours. I didn't have producers

590
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: to set up the dates and twenty seven other women. Yeah,

591
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: that's it was a different environment, Matthew. But what happened

592
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: was we very quickly felt very comfortable together. And you

593
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting the birds and the beast. So

594
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah? Man, we both I think you know,

595
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: Beck is younger than me, but I, like you were

596
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: talking about before biological clock like obviously was top of

597
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: mind for her and I was the last option. No,

598
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: it want to be lonely again? It was more a

599
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: case of we didn't have to force any of those conversations.

600
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: It all just sort of naturally, which sounds strange, but

601
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: I think, like you were saying before ash Covid, I

602
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: think made everyone take stock of their life, like what's

603
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: important to me? What am I doing? Well? Is this

604
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: a career? I want all of those things. I think

605
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: we were all, whether it was consciously or subconsciously, were

606
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: making those decisions. And so many people moved states, so

607
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: many things happened in that period. So positives did come

608
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: out of it, And I feel like one of the

609
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: positives for us was that we once we knew that

610
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: we were into each other, we were so certain about,

611
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: all right, well let's not muck around, like we don't

612
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: want borders to happen again, because at that point it

613
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: still could have happened again. So pretty quickly she was like, Oh,

614
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: come to Sydney and we'll work it out from there. Wow.

615
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: How many months into the relations she would.

616
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: Have been a few months a few months in? Did

617
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: she have to quarantine? No, she didn't, Yes, Yeah, it was.

618
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: It was one of those three periods where I was like,

619
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: they announced the borders were open. She's like I'm packing

620
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: the car coming. Yeah, how desperate are you know? I'm

621
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Jack and all the other picks and all the raspberry

622
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: in Toron. Great.

623
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Do you remember the moment that Rebecca told you that

624
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: she was pregnant?

625
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do. Yeah, and I'm I don't know

626
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: if you guys are the same, but like, what is

627
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: the like accuracy of the tests? Like I'm not a skeptic,

628
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: but I was like, can we do another one? Just

629
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: to like double chair two conspiracy? It wasn't like it

630
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: wasn't like the movies. Yes, it's like when I got

631
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: the job as a weather man? Am I really? Yeah?

632
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: We did it.

633
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: We did an episode, We talked about the talked about

634
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: the pregnancy tests and how do you do it or

635
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: we don'kli do.

636
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: You sip it in in what it's like a COVID

637
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: test up the nostrils while her out of it? So

638
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: it was amazing, like I was, yeah, I mean, I'm

639
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: sure you're say you remember it so clearly. It's life

640
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: changing in an instant and so many questions, so much excitement,

641
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: all all of those feelings, and it was just as

642
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: exciting the second time, you know, when Beck surprised me

643
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. Actually, there was a lot of surprises

644
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: going on around that period. I proposed to her on

645
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve eve. I didn't want to do it

646
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve because it's too busy, too much

647
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: going on. You did that. Yes, I included her family

648
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: in it because I knew that was the best chance

649
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: of me getting her over the line. Fore, yes, she's

650
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: very fair public. I had a heap of photos printed

651
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: of like key moments of our relationship and basically set

652
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: them in the shape of a love heart. You're really

653
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: trying to sell it, Yeah, look there's evidence fun once.

654
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Did you rope and your producer to print out those photos? No,

655
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: I went to office works by myself. I paid fifty

656
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: five cents per photo, a lot more expensive for the frames.

657
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I put a lot of effort into it because I

658
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: knew that hopefully you want to get shot at it,

659
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: and I wanted it to be right. And I had

660
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: her one of her brothers, She's got three brothers who

661
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: she didn't know was in Sydney at the time. He

662
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: wore a gilly suit and army gilly suit so he

663
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: could hide in the bushes to film. It's like an

664
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Army camouflage suit, but a proper one with like shrubbery

665
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: on it. He is in the business of like video

666
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: shooting video, so he knew what he was doing. He's like,

667
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that she can't see me.

668
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. So we did that and then yeah,

669
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: propose and it was a yes. And then her parents

670
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: came amazing. They immerged in the bushes as well, so

671
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: they were all in bush suits. But back to what

672
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I was saying, Yes, that was proposal. But Christmas Day,

673
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: Beck for my Christmas present, said oh, I've got a

674
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: box for you, and I was like, it's a puppy.

675
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't a puppy. And then there was a poem

676
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: in there, and the poem basically explained to me in

677
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: beautiful language that we had another one on the way.

678
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: So there was so much going on at that couple

679
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: of hours. Pea covered stick in there. No, there was

680
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: a stick. Yes, there was a stick. And as we

681
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: were hugging to like, you know, share the moment. How

682
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: exited is this Margo at that point about a year

683
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: and a half, had grabbed the stick and was literally

684
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: about to put it. It's funny, you say, about to

685
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: like we look like an ice cream kind of er.

686
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: Actually didn't.

687
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: Thank goodness, this is.

688
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: A really positive How did it work with your job

689
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: after Margot was born? I'm assuming media is a little

690
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: bit different to a normal nine to five. You can't

691
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: take paternity leaves straight away, not straight away, like it's tricky.

692
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: That they were so supportive and so on board with it.

693
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: I was very lucky we cut back the weekend travel.

694
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: Often I would travel on a Sunday.

695
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: We kind of said, can we make it Monday, fly

696
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: out and generally get back on a Thursday or Friday.

697
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: But did you do the weather from the delivery suite?

698
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Wuld not have a bar of that. No, they were very,

699
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: very flexible with it. I mean, it's still it's hard,

700
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: But the way that I try to justify, like we

701
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: were talking about before, is you know, Okay, I might

702
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: be away two nights in the week, but on the

703
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: days that I'm home, I'm home, and like I can

704
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: have them for almost most of the day, which is

705
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: awesome because that freeze back up to have a breather,

706
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: to do some work or whatever she wants to do.

707
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: So at the moment, we're juggling it and as you

708
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: guys know, every week is a new juggle with new challenges.

709
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: I feel like we're doing pretty well with it all.

710
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: Did you find that? I know, September of last year

711
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: you took a month off as your paternity leave. Yeah,

712
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: was that period where you could completely forget about work?

713
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 2: Was that any different to the moments where you come

714
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: home at ten o'clock and you kind of become dad?

715
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely? So different way you're not as jet lagged of

716
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: having done the morning breakfast show and flying that week.

717
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 1: You're just in it. You know what it's like with work,

718
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking where am I traveling tomorrow? What time

719
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: is my alarm need to be said? What time do

720
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: I need to leave?

721
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: Someone goes off?

722
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all these elements. So I didn't have that

723
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: lingering over me. So it just gave you clarity to

724
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: actually be more much more present and just like, all right,

725
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: what are we doing today? Cool, We're going to go

726
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: for a drive, We're going to do this, We're going

727
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: to do a little you know, couple of nights away.

728
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: Whatever it was we were going to do. It was awesome.

729
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: I love that freedom. So I'm lucky enough to have

730
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: a lot of leaves saved up because I didn't because,

731
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: as you know, I was lonely and sad and a

732
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: loser for the first So.

733
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: People want to just rewindis I didn't phrase it like that.

734
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: Man, Like with Margo, your first, your eldest. What sort

735
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: of baby was she? Was she a sleeper? Was she

736
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 3: a good feeder?

737
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: She she was a great feeder straight away, but she

738
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: was not a great sleeper, which I think everyone can

739
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: connect to. At some point we got a sleep specialist,

740
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: a sleep trainer.

741
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which was how many months in?

742
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: Did you feel like? It was about six or seven

743
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: months in? We probably should have gone a bit earlier

744
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: on it, but I feel.

745
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: Like everyone says that we did really early.

746
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: We didn't know. Did you find that it was more

747
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: about training you and your We still have her at

748
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: home training just sit in the gorway. I feel like

749
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: we were doing some things wrong, or we didn't have

750
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: conviction with some of the things that we were doing. So,

751
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's natural, particularly as a first time parent,

752
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: when your baby cries, you just instinctively you're physically drawn

753
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: to go and help. But we had to kind of

754
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: let go of that a little bit, give her a

755
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: minute or two to try for herself, and she worked

756
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: it out really quickly.

757
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: First time we had we had because we had a

758
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: sleep specialist twice for.

759
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: The same kid. He owes me, that's for sure.

760
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: But the first time for me, I found it really

761
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: traumatic because of that.

762
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we I think we were at a.

763
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: Point where it was like, fuck, we just need some sleep.

764
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: But then also we're like, what are we doing the

765
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 3: wrong thing?

766
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's guilty parental guild and it's a very natural,

767
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: normal thing to feel.

768
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: What was the moment that you guys yourself and Rebecca

769
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: said we need help here, we're struggling.

770
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: I think it was when I was going away, Like

771
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: I felt really, you know, bad for her because her

772
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: family are all over the world slash mainly Victoria. My

773
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: family are in Adelaide. You know, she's got some friends here,

774
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: but not a huge network here of support. So if

775
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: I was away for three nights or four nights, that's

776
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: a long time. As you like it's it was. It

777
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: was a lot for her, particularly while I was away.

778
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: So that made me kind of, I guess, investigate and

779
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: research and go all right, how can we improve this

780
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: at least and and credit you know, sleep by Steph,

781
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 1: who was the lady that helped us. It honestly changed

782
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: things for us very quickly, within within a month. Yeah,

783
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: once you're given the correct tools in that it's it's

784
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: crazy how quick did they learn and adapt to it?

785
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: Any of the regress like every kid regresses, I suppose,

786
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: but yeah, a lot of people as well thinking like, Okay,

787
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: well you're going away for four days, it must have

788
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: been nice.

789
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: But then you're also like you feel guilty that.

790
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: She's my wife said, oh well your partner's at home

791
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: with the kid, and it's like, oh I can I

792
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: can just imagine the night she's having.

793
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Without me totally. And what doesn't help is like the

794
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: things that I'm doing on TV, Like you know, totally,

795
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm at the Gold coast of some new cocktail bar

796
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: that's open. There's like bingo dancers, and it's it's a

797
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 1: bad look, but it's not reality, Like how did the show?

798
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: How did you gone from there? Okay, admittedly I should

799
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: have done that for five years?

800
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: How do you deal with that guilt as a parent?

801
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: I think everyone gets parent guilt, and I think it's

802
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: amplified so much more when you're away from your family.

803
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you deal with it? You chip away

804
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: best you can. You offer solutions, you offer options. You

805
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: make sure when you're home that you are absolutely going above,

806
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: above and beyond even working ahead a little bit. Hey,

807
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I've board and some of those easy lazagnas that are

808
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: in the freezer ready to go if you don't get

809
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: a chance to eat tomorrow during bathtime, if it's chaos,

810
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: that's there ready for you. Take ten minutes, just those

811
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: little little five percenters so that, yeah, you're contributing, you're

812
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: not oblivious to it. Yeah, that's good advice.

813
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: And then if you're staying somewhere really nice, don't.

814
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: Face time Kualia.

815
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: But I did this what was in Japan, and it's

816
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: like only an hour difference timing, And I was like,

817
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 3: if they FaceTime at like six am, I better wake

818
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: up and get it because I felt like if I

819
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: did it and that probably like that fuck is sleeping.

820
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: About us. You kind of like, there's no right way

821
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: to handle those face. You can try to dress down

822
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: the background as much, it's like or like, guys, keep

823
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: it down just for five minutes. You can't. There's nothing

824
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: you can do because the reality is they're in the

825
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: thick of it and you're with a roomfule of prostitutes. Yeah,

826
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: not on that trip. Not on that trip. It's like, ladies,

827
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: keep it down. I still couldn't say ladies, But.

828
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: I still can't believe you've got a newborn three weeks?

829
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Three weeks, yeah, three weeks?

830
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: How is it?

831
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: Second time round?

832
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: Just as amazing and just as challenging, different challenges. But

833
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: I think you have those little moments where like hearing

834
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: Margo say Mabel, like say her sister's name. I love that,

835
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: Or when Mabel's crying and Margo runs with the dummy

836
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: and almost like chokes her, like trying to force into

837
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: her about like she means, well, that's that's the stuff

838
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: that I'm really really reveling in and loving to see

839
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: just them interacting.

840
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: It's so amazing when you get that first photo of

841
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 3: your eldest, Yeah, youngest, the best.

842
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: Never like that again, just like, don't touch me, how

843
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: was it for you?

844
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: Like they're going to too many I think I think

845
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: in the early stages, you know, in the first six months,

846
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: obviously a newborn is so connected to mum and that

847
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: period initially it really galvanized my relationship with Marley like

848
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: we really stuck together, and I guess it took me

849
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: a little while to then build that same level of

850
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: relationship with Lola because obviously, like you know, when you're

851
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: firstborn arrives, all your attention is on them, and then

852
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: you have two kids and all of a sudden, it's

853
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: diluted a little bit more. And so I actually found

854
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: second time a little bit harder to build that relationship.

855
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: And not this is like the worst way to say it,

856
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: but you know, when you're like, when something is second

857
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: time round, it's not as special.

858
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes. Wow, there is a quote for the post. Do

859
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: we get that, Guys who are rolling on that, we're

860
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: going to edit all of this.

861
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: I know we know what you mean because it's also

862
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: as well, it comes down to a job experience, right.

863
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: Also, and also let me let me help you out there.

864
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: Give an example. Let me give an exam.

865
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Speaker 2: Your first birthday for Margo, how was it spectacular?

866
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: Okay? We had a we had a dancer named William

867
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Speaker 1: Chann No, I'm Jacob.

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00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I guarantee for Mabel's first birthday it will be

869
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: nowhere near as spectacular and the money energy won't be

870
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Speaker 2: as matched.

871
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: I see that as a challenge.

872
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm quite stubborn, like, well we actually did have William Chance.

873
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get where you're coming from, and you might

874
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: be right. I mean, it's Margo's birthday, second birthday this

875
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: weekend and compared to her first birthdays. But yeah, that's

876
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

877
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: It's kind of like it's kind of like job experience, right,

878
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: It's like the first time you do your job, you're

879
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: on TV, like, holy shit, I'm on TV. This is amazing,

880
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: And now you've been doing it for how many years?

881
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: It might not seem as special because you've I mean,

882
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: you've built up that muscle memory and like for you,

883
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: like you were and I'm the same. Our kids are

884
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: pretty much the same age, so I it became me

885
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 3: and Oscar.

886
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: You know, and you built that.

887
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: You know, we butt heads yet, but you built that

888
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: different relationship you do with the younger one that you're

889
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: still you remember as well that Lola is younger by

890
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: the time that she gets to Marley's, you would have built.

891
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Probably built that same relationship. Yeah. I think that's a

892
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: good way to look at it. And that's definitely what

893
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. Lean into the positives of it,

894
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: which is okay, Margot, it's you and I today, Let's

895
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Speaker 1: go do this, this and this, let's have an awesome day.

896
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: And then okay, when Mabel gets to that older than you,

897
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: make sure you've you've tried to scheduling those days for

898
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: her to have that time.

899
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: We did have a pretty solid session a few nights

900
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: ago where the kids were in bed. House is a

901
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: bit quiet as Laura and I went to baby, went

902
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: through our phone and started looking at photos and videos

903
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: when the kids were a lot younger, a trip down memory.

904
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Speaker 1: I love that.

905
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: I love that, and it's it's wild how much in

906
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: our memories Marley has been like a little toddler her

907
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: whole life in a sense, whereas Lola, who's my youngest,

908
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: she's been a baby for like her whole life.

909
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: Because you've got that constant comparison of size language.

910
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: And it's funny when you look at like Marley and

911
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: Oscar are a week apart, so that's the same, it's

912
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 3: exact same thing, not that long ago.

913
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: And now I look at.

914
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: Oscar, I'm like, you're a child, yeah, And do you

915
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: look back at that, You're like, how chubby were you?

916
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: But also you're a baby and yeah, you don't look

917
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: at them until you do that, you only you don't

918
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: look at them that way for sure.

919
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: When I was at a friend's house recently, they have

920
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: a six month old, and I was watching them try

921
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: and feed their their child and fitting a six month old,

922
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: obviously they're they're very bad eaters with solids.

923
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: You know.

924
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: It's just a lot of like smushing food themselves. It

925
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: was great content, like great content, but also I was like, oh,

926
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: that hardshair is going to need a wipe down. And

927
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: I had a fabric as well on the seed. It

928
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: was like just a mess.

929
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: I like to say that that's going to be wiped down.

930
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: Whilst a cat with kitty litter attachments it walks across

931
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: your dining table.

932
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: During podcast, but that to me, I was like, that's

933
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: one of the hardest and most frustrating parts of the

934
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: task of with the child is having to try and

935
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: feed them at the end of the day. It takes

936
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: so long. It calls such a mess. That's the part

937
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: I dislike parenting. Are there any moments or tasks that

938
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: you're like, I just I don't want to He's going

939
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: to list.

940
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: How long have you guys got how much reporting can

941
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: you do in a day, there's a lot. But like

942
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: with the disclaimer that you know so grateful, absolutely love it,

943
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: but yes there's challenges like that's just naturally part of it.

944
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: Like even last night I cooked margot dinner I was

945
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: expecting around the floors. Did you cook?

946
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: Know?

947
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: It was carrots, broccoli, mashed potato and a little mini

948
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: chopped little cupre you go, a little bit of effort

949
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: spread that's that's a decent meal. It was a frozen

950
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: meal and she didn't want to eat it. She just

951
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: wanted to eat a piece of broccoli raw that she'd

952
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: been holding since she was at the shops. And it

953
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: became it became a meltdown. It was a meltdown, and

954
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: it's like she will not let go of the broccoli.

955
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: She didn't want to cook brocoli. You didn't want the

956
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: mashed potato that had parmesan and butter in it. Do

957
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: you still have it? And Yeah, it's really frustrating because

958
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: and I have to keep reminding myself of this. It's

959
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: like you can't put adult logic on a one slash

960
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: two year old and you have to keep reminding yourself,

961
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: and it's hard to remind yourself of that sometimes because

962
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: it's like, you know that it's dinner time, you know

963
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: the routine, and she's just I think, starting to have

964
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: those little power struggles the stands, you can have independent thoughts,

965
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: which of course you need, and so it's just like,

966
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna have to play. What do we

967
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: need to do? So everyone's got their different methods. For us,

968
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: we do okay, it's to drive through. So it's like

969
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: she does a lap of you know, the kitchen island

970
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: and it tears your drive through Carrot, drive through Brocoli, yep, yep,

971
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: we just got to drive through Brocly is available if

972
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: she comes around, Oh, drive through Brocoli? Yep, what's that

973
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: mashed potato coming up next? And it actually works, but

974
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: it won't work in two weeks and we know that

975
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: got the sweet and just enjoying that while and it's good.

976
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: I do love even though in the moment it's tough

977
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: and it's like your stress and you're tired, and you're like,

978
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: I just want to get her in the bath because

979
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: I know that means I'm near the finish line. Right. Yeah,

980
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot of that, but I do love that

981
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: there's little puzzles, there's little challenges, and it's like, I'm

982
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: a creative person. I do like the creativity of like

983
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: how do I get on to her level to make

984
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: this fun or at least bearable? How do I do

985
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: that even to get the result that your hope when

986
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: she knows what result I want and she's probably going

987
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: to try to resist that. But it's like, is there

988
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: a way to like navigate Yeah, yes, guilt, But that's

989
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: I guess that's a version of parenting in a nutshell,

990
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: isn't it, but just on different levels and different ages.

991
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: How often do you put half man, half cat on TV.

992
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: For your kids? It's part of the morning routine, half mad,

993
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: half cat. For those that are familiar, I don't think

994
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: there'd be many. We'll put in a little little cat.

995
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: I will get royalties for that. Thank you. I recorded

996
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: a welcome, I wrote a song, recorded a song with

997
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: the Wiggles, who are amazing. I've been very lucky to

998
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: spend time with them at hps O Potato Studios for

999
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: those that don't know, and recorded a song. I got

1000
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: to perform it on stage with them, which was amazing.

1001
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: Genuinely like a life.

1002
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: It's almost annoying though that Margaret wasn't a little bit

1003
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: older to appreciate the enormity of the situation.

1004
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: I've got an open an invite with Anthony the Blue Wiggle,

1005
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: so he said, you know, I can come it again

1006
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: another time. What I can do. We've had Anthony on

1007
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: the pot and he was really great, awesome, He's such

1008
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: a legend. But I showed it to her once and

1009
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: she was so disinterested, much like the book, which I'm

1010
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: actually here to promote today. Thanks for the mentioned guys,

1011
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: hang on this podcast. I've grown a beard in the

1012
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: time we've been sitting him there.

1013
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: That was my that was my next, my next point.

1014
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: So she got time for She was not very interested

1015
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: in it. But I feel like it's more you know,

1016
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: you're three to five year old demographics. How are your

1017
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: kids five and five and three? I'll put that on

1018
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: the list for the kids.

1019
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: Actually, I will try Marley and Low Big Wiggles fans.

1020
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: I will film it and get their reactions and.

1021
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: You don't tell them. It's like whether guy, just say

1022
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: new song from the Wiggles. Okay, okay, I'll do two.

1023
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm picking him up this afternoon.

1024
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this. We've got a brand new time,

1025
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: so we'll put it on that and they can be

1026
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: their honest opinion.

1027
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Brilliant, brilliant.

1028
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: You are here to promote your second book. We're all

1029
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: sitting at this table published authors, so few engratulations, thank you.

1030
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm still pinch myself every day.

1031
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: The book is we're not sure when this episode will drop.

1032
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: We'll say it's available now. It is called Suddenly One. Yeah,

1033
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: what's harder writing an autobiography style book or a kid's book. Well,

1034
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: it's interesting because because Accidental weather Man great book, absolutely

1035
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: crack of.

1036
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: A reading, it's also a kid's book. It's a primary

1037
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: school level incab I don't know, but it's this Suddenly

1038
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: One sits in a strange territory because the publisher, Penguin

1039
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: will sometimes refer to it as a kid's book, or

1040
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: a children's book or a picture book. It's probably more

1041
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: picture book in the sense that it's not really for

1042
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: kids to read at like as they turned one two.

1043
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: It's not really that. It's more like when they get

1044
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: a little bit older, showing them what you did with them,

1045
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: what they went through, the experience that you went through

1046
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: when they were a baby, because you know, they're all

1047
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: ego manix. They all want to hear about themselves and

1048
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: they want to see photos of themselves more and more

1049
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: and more. So that's what it's about. But the thing

1050
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: I love about it is I never intended for it

1051
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: to be a book. It was literally just Margo was

1052
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: about to turn one. I was on a flight to

1053
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: Perth or something like that, and I literally on a

1054
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: paper bag just scribbled down some thoughts on I was

1055
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: looking through photos and hearing my thoughts on my first

1056
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: year as a parent and Margo's first year on Earth.

1057
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: And by the time I got to Perth, which is

1058
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: a very long flight, I kind of thought, oh this

1059
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: is this could be a polem, this could be a piece.

1060
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: So I fine tuned it over the next week or

1061
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: so and then recorded the audio of me saying it

1062
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: matched up a lot of the video to you know,

1063
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: to bring it to life, and posted it, thinking, this

1064
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: is a great little snapshot. You know, we can look

1065
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: back on this. I love that Margo will see that

1066
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: in ten years time. That's pretty cool. And it went

1067
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Speaker 1: like much bigger than I expected, had over millions of views,

1068
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: literally was in a day or so.

1069
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: Other parents in the same situation would have looked at

1070
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: they go, we did all that too, And that's the

1071
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: thing that gets people got.

1072
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: It tickles them right yeah where it's like, oh, I

1073
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: thought we just did that. It shared experience.

1074
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: Ye later we picked up by the outlets of a

1075
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: missus in the States today were.

1076
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: Like, I report on this. Yeah, yeah, it hasn't made

1077
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Speaker 1: it there I do. I like good news. Where are

1078
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: you now? And yeah, Penguin said, do you want to

1079
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: turn this into a picture book? So then I had

1080
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: an amazing opportunity to find the right illustrator, which I'm

1081
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: sure you guys had that, which is really cool, to

1082
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: bring them to life visually. Yeah, and here it is now.

1083
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: It's and what I love about it is number one

1084
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: for parents, even if your if your children are older,

1085
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: it's kind of takes you back and like, oh yeah,

1086
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: I remember our first solos. I remember so Mileson's you

1087
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: can discuss and you can have that chat with your

1088
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: little ones. But number two, I love the idea of

1089
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: grandparents like gifting it to their kids, you know, like

1090
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: you say, their their grandchild's about to turn one. So

1091
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: I love that that concept as well of like bringing

1092
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: families together and sharing those experiences.

1093
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: When you talk about Miles Stones in the first twelve months,

1094
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: is there one that sticks out for you as being

1095
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: one of your favorites.

1096
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Oh, when she said dada for the first time, which

1097
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: was three weeks and four days before she said mum,

1098
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: that was I don't know. Did you guys feel the same, Yeah,

1099
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think. I can't remember hearing dad for the

1100
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: first time when it's not like mumbling, when it's an

1101
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: intentional when it's real.

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00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I'd love to get a

1103
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: professional opinion on this. I feel like dadda is maybe

1104
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: easier for why would you have to ruin it?

1105
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: Because I was are you here to bring me down?

1106
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: Like Dad is easier?

1107
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: I was the same in that, but I was I

1108
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: was very premature, Like Marley would just go we know, She's.

1109
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: Like, hello, father, I can't.

1110
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: Say anything in this episode. Sorry anyway, I was beating

1111
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: my child.

1112
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: Your favorite one was your disappointment. The second one.

1113
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: What I was trying to say is forget about it.

1114
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: You really would say sorry.

1115
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: She would just go like and I'm like yeah, and

1116
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: I'd feel man, Laura was like, that is nowhere near

1117
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: I think.

1118
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: Everyone goes through that. But then there is definitely one

1119
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: where it's distinctive and it's with intent. But another thing,

1120
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: apparently which probably supports your argument is often the little

1121
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: one will hear the word data more than mama because

1122
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: because they're feeding so much, or like Dad's going to

1123
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: be home soon, Dad is going to do this. And

1124
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: you know when your fiance or your wife, your partner

1125
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: starts to use like that language to get you to

1126
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: do jobs like oh, I think dad is going to

1127
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: empty the bins, so yeah, I think Dad is going

1128
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: to Yeah, so they hear the word more. So it's

1129
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: probably the repetition is daddy's bottom y Dad is the

1130
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: way on a workshoot?

1131
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, again, it's actually quite ingenious what you've done

1132
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: as well, because you set this up as a series

1133
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: like Suddenly Too, Suddenly three.

1134
00:52:53,680 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: Suddenly twenty one, Lord of the Trilogy, but on steroids.

1135
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah no, it's I have actually written something for Marco's

1136
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: second but it's not called Suddenly Too, and it's it's

1137
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: different finally too for me and for Margo. I mean,

1138
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: I'll share it, but yeah, I don't know if it

1139
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: would be like an annual thing, but who knows. Every

1140
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: year is different, right, there's an.

1141
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: Love it and will I have to ask the question

1142
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you've answered this number of times will

1143
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: there be a third? Or you're happy to be surrounded

1144
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 2: by women?

1145
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: I would love a third genuinely. I feel that's coming

1146
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: from someone who's in the thick of it. Yeah, it's

1147
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: not really my decision though.

1148
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: Fuck, he's got a three week old and he's like,

1149
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: you do.

1150
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: I was like that at the hospital, Like.

1151
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: For me, popped out of the hospital like this was

1152
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: actually a twin.

1153
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: If you get a free one. Yeah, we had a

1154
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: really good we had a really good birth. What do

1155
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: I do? I took a photo at the end of it,

1156
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: and course he just recorded the word from Beck had

1157
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: a really good berth. The second time round, Margo's was

1158
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: much more challenging and a longer, tougher experience, and I

1159
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: feel like that is a real positive. So I was

1160
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: definitely in the mindset of like, how amazing would it

1161
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: be to go again? But look, we'll work it out

1162
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: if we're lucky enough to You can't take these things

1163
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: for granted. There's no guarantees. What about you if you

1164
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: shut up people practicing? Yeah, yeah, keep.

1165
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm on the fence. I'm okay, I don't know,

1166
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I mean, it changes.

1167
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: I always ask I go to adopt, I feel like

1168
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: on the fences A yes. Yeah.

1169
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean someone did say to me. They said, I

1170
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: mentioned I think I'm done, and they said, well, if

1171
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: you think you're done, get the snip. And then the

1172
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: thought that anality of I'm trying to digest me having

1173
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: a snip. I couldn't do it, which was an indication

1174
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: that maybe I'm not done.

1175
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: But we'll lucky. Doctor. Well, someone said to me, if

1176
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: you're thinking about if you're arming and ring about it,

1177
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: don't think about the third as another maybe another child,

1178
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: think about it will be a name. And by that

1179
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: it's a simple way to put it. But like if

1180
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: you had the chance to have another maple, another market,

1181
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: because then you know them, you know the bond that

1182
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: you have with them, you know what they mean to you.

1183
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: You had two kids with the same Yeah, I mean,

1184
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: but I think that's a nice way to look at

1185
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: because as soon as you meet them, hold them, get

1186
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: to bond with it, I think it will change. I

1187
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: was so dumb.

1188
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like that's just me, and like that's I'm

1189
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: very honest about I've been very honest about that, like

1190
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: I was like, and even April like, nah, well.

1191
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: I think even you did. I don't know if you recall, Sam,

1192
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: you did a video where you were like, parenting means

1193
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: that you lose a social life, it makes you broke.

1194
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: Do you remember this video something along those lines?

1195
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: You did finish it and say but it's absolutely wonderful,

1196
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: and which it is.

1197
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: There's magic in every day, genuinely, and it's to try

1198
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: to convince other people to be visible. I truly believe

1199
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: that there is something every single day, and sometimes it's

1200
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: literally a ten second moment and it makes up for

1201
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: all the shit moments. And yeah, I really feel that.

1202
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: And you know you're you're going to be tied with two,

1203
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: so why I'll be tied with three. That's how I

1204
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: see I'm not trying to change convinced, but that's how

1205
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: I see it. And everyone has their own path, everyone

1206
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: has their own threshold. And like I said at the start,

1207
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm not the person who has to birth carry the baby,

1208
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: so it's really more bex call than mine. But if

1209
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity, I would absolutely love I love that.

1210
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: And when you are a much older man. Let's let's

1211
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: imagine you being you still look like this, a grandfather,

1212
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: a little bit of foundation under the eye is looking great.

1213
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: And Margot and Mabel are grown up. They have left

1214
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: the nest, they're no longer living with you. Is there

1215
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: anything that you would like them to remember about the

1216
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: house that they grew up in.

1217
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a really interesting question. I'd like them to

1218
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: remember that it was full of books. This is not

1219
00:56:54,600 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: a plug for my it's not genuinely I'm a big reader.

1220
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: I love I love the whole landscape of children's literature.

1221
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: I find fascinating and even entertainment. Bluie Wiggles pepper pick.

1222
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I find it so interesting what resonates with kids of

1223
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: what doesn't Dad's quest free time. Yes, of course exactly.

1224
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: There's no more honest audience than a child, and I

1225
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: find something really pure and interesting about that. So I

1226
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: just want them to remember, Oh, my god, like Dad

1227
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: used to read that book, or Mum dressed up as

1228
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: that character. So I want to remember, Yeah, the stories

1229
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: and the books and those moments. We're taken back to

1230
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: those moments too.

1231
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: When you have that thing of nostalgia, it's like, oh,

1232
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: Dad used to read me that book.

1233
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: You still remember books that you read as a kid, right,

1234
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing how you can forget about it for twenty

1235
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: years and then you walk past Dimmicks a Daily Telegraph. Yeah, there,

1236
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: I walk past the Daily Telegraph. I remember hit getting

1237
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: hit with that mate. Thank you for your time, pleasure.

1238
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: Your fiance is probably wondering why you're not at home

1239
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: right now with the children, so we will release you.

1240
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you guys, congratulations on the book and the podcast

1241
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: and getting the snip. I feel like it's kind of

1242
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: ironic that, like we're having this three dads having this

1243
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: conversation about how to be better parents, while I don't

1244
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: even podcasting is more important than me raising you. Sorry, no,

1245
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: I did the double drop off this morning, so I

1246
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: tick tick the box to that in the basement after

1247
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: this with a cat. Thank you very much, love work,

1248
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sam. We now know what the weather is like.

1249
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: If you have to ask him if you enjoyed that episode,

1250
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: please jump on, leave us a review or suggest any

1251
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: other guest parent parent whoever that we can have grandparent?

1252
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: Have we had any other grandparents other.

1253
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: Than very interesting shout? We have not other than your

1254
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: mom Yeah, your mom my mom, let us work on

1255
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: that one.

1256
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: She's hot. She's a hot topic. My mom, she's hot.

1257
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: You're not wrong.

1258
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: She is delish anyway, It's not from us, see you.

1259
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: Two.

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00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: Doting Dance Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

1261
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: Australia and their connections to land, sea and community.

1262
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

1263
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander

1264
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: peoples today.

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00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land