WEBVTT - MINI: Citizen's Arrest

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing scenes yesterday, Djokovic saying, can people who are dressed

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<v Speaker 2>up as where's Wally?

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<v Speaker 3>Get out? It's distracting for me who was going just

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<v Speaker 3>us Where's Wally?

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing that happened there was a citizens

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<v Speaker 2>arrest yesterday by one of the umpires.

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<v Speaker 4>He got off the chair real knows more about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, at the end of the match, someone ran onto

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<v Speaker 5>the court, grabbed one of I think it was Lee

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<v Speaker 5>Zu's towel and tried to sprint away the chair. Umpire

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<v Speaker 5>leaps down from his chair but they're very high chairs too,

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<v Speaker 5>and chases him around the court and out of the

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<v Speaker 5>out of the place. Ben Hill chase and apprehends him.

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<v Speaker 3>What would in it like a citizen citizens arrest?

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<v Speaker 5>And then they got the tower back?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So do we know what is the legality around a

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<v Speaker 2>citizen's arrest?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>So I've printed this off that says the three essential

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<v Speaker 4>elements of deforming a citizen?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So do you know what they are?

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<v Speaker 4>Patsy, No, I need to be enlightened. Tell me, Jane, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it is such a funny. We all know that it exists,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not until now that I've actually thought what

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<v Speaker 4>a bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>So that we can remember the citizens actually take the

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<v Speaker 2>law into our own.

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<v Speaker 4>Hands and just decide to arrest somebody. Yeah, okay. For

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<v Speaker 4>number one, you must make it clear to the person

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<v Speaker 4>that you're arresting them and the reason for the arrest.

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<v Speaker 4>So if I'm arresting you in the street, I go, Christian,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm arresting you because you've been driving a car that's unregistered.

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<v Speaker 4>You are required to detain the person with reasonable force,

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<v Speaker 4>not excessive force.

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<v Speaker 3>Reasonable force sounds like a Steven Sigar movie.

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<v Speaker 4>From an excessive force would be the sequel. And then

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<v Speaker 4>the third one is, which is so confusing. The person

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<v Speaker 4>must submit to your arrest. So does that mean they

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<v Speaker 4>can just choose to go?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Has anyone actually placed someone under a citizen's arrest? Or selly,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's an incredible thing. You hear about it and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously happened yesterday, but we'd love to hear an eyewitness

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<v Speaker 2>support of actually have, especially if someone actually did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ian ever made a citizens arrest?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, yes, Timble.

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<v Speaker 3>Several like Dirty Harry, have you taken down Kenny?

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<v Speaker 7>I've worked in the industry over the year security and

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<v Speaker 7>I've made several in food goods. People stealing out of

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<v Speaker 7>the brender's bridges, putting him in their backpack.

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<v Speaker 2>This amazing food got take that dem sim out of there,

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<v Speaker 2>get down.

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<v Speaker 3>In one dim city of stolen. They're all stolen, you mongol.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good to stop the track. Hi, I thank you

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<v Speaker 3>very much.

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<v Speaker 2>You call rocking this one Caroline ever made a citizens arrest.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, not me personally, but many decades ago, when I

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<v Speaker 6>was just fourteen years old, my father stopped a possible

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<v Speaker 6>criminal in our backyard. Told my mother to ring the police,

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<v Speaker 6>handed me a cricket bat said this this like makes

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<v Speaker 6>a movie. You whack him for something?

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<v Speaker 3>You where is deputy? I depretize you with the powers

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<v Speaker 3>bestowed in me.

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<v Speaker 6>As he as he tackled into the ground, an illicit

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<v Speaker 6>substance fell out of his top pocket. The police then arrived.

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<v Speaker 6>The copper took one look at the blokes and said, mate,

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<v Speaker 6>what are you doing here? Put him in the put

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<v Speaker 6>him in the back of the bed. As it turned

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<v Speaker 6>out it was a copper's brother in law.

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<v Speaker 3>No way.

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<v Speaker 6>A couple of weeks later, this rather elaborate apology hamper

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<v Speaker 6>turned up for my one of.

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<v Speaker 3>Those storm I mean needed for my wife at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>An apology my brother in law.

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<v Speaker 1>The Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>The good news for you is that despite being not

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<v Speaker 4>a citizen, you can still make it arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody can actually have been accepted by the Immigration Department.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm now just waiting for my ceremony.

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<v Speaker 3>Forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happened literally about a week after we ended for

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<v Speaker 2>the year. My wife and I did. Are yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>got ninety percent. My wife got ninety five, which she

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<v Speaker 2>loves that fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Well done, Yeah, well done. I was so nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so ceremony or you still have to wait, still.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to wait and see congratulation. You should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentioned that thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing they specify for making the citizens

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<v Speaker 4>arrest is you have to actually catch somebody committing offense

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<v Speaker 4>merely having a hunch that someone will would be doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Something about you, the face, whatever it is, the energy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get some more stories about you making

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<v Speaker 2>citizens arrest A J.

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<v Speaker 7>Tst Off. I just want to make sure that that

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<v Speaker 7>no one actually commits the citizens of the rest unless

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<v Speaker 7>they are trained, unless like one hundred percent sure if

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<v Speaker 7>the are in fear of their life or their partner's life.

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<v Speaker 7>At the time I was doing corporate security, I was

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<v Speaker 7>looking at Prince Frederick of Denmark before he got married

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<v Speaker 7>to Mary.

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<v Speaker 3>Slow this down. This is all incredible, right, this is great.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, thank you very much for considering one's

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<v Speaker 2>safety right, because people could get her trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I appreciate that. But who which prince were you

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<v Speaker 3>looking after?

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<v Speaker 7>Prince Frederick of Denmark. He was over and over in

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<v Speaker 7>Melbourne for the two five Flemington Cup.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, this Prince Vederick is one of his I was.

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<v Speaker 7>Looking after himself and two of his entourage. One of

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<v Speaker 7>his entourage had his phone stolen. I took chase. Uh

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<v Speaker 7>if I started, Obviously the guy lost, explained.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, John winning. Obviously he lost. You don't take

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<v Speaker 3>on a j and you walk away.

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<v Speaker 7>Now look, I'm no tough guy, but respectful, respectfully, I

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<v Speaker 7>was trained. I did it without without without causing any

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<v Speaker 7>damage to him. Among the citizens arrest. I made him

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<v Speaker 7>sit down while I gave thee to call the police.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a bit more of that.

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<v Speaker 7>You must see this person through to the length of

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<v Speaker 7>the law. You must make sure he is arrested. You

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<v Speaker 7>make sure, must make sure he is not harmed, and

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<v Speaker 7>you know you've got to make sure that he is charged,

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<v Speaker 7>and you've got to be present to that charging.

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<v Speaker 3>My horse is about the race, Prince Frederick Waite, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>Frederick Off. We've got to go and god him. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we just need to read him as rights. You could.

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<v Speaker 7>If you give me a link. I also have art

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<v Speaker 7>and I can prove that all this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a better security where it's declassified. Now it's

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<v Speaker 7>I'm allowed to talk about it, but don't be it.

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<v Speaker 7>But please don't, please do not attempt to citizen arrest

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<v Speaker 7>someone unless you know your rights, that your rights, you

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<v Speaker 7>can get in more trouble than they can. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we don't only do it if you are half percent

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<v Speaker 7>sure that this person needs to out of jail or

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<v Speaker 7>needs to get arrested for the crime for that committed.

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<v Speaker 2>Good advice feels like the first time this year had

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<v Speaker 2>grownups called in all show. Feel free to do that anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we need like a lifeguard.

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<v Speaker 3>Go hey, hey, Ben Bens on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian a long time listener, first time caller.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks you, Ben, Thank you very much. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So I understand that you tried to make assistance the

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<v Speaker 2>rest when you were fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I was a young lad just waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the waiting for the bus, and then a young lady

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<v Speaker 1>had a walt stolen. You have the classic. I stopped, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got my wallet. He's ran down. He's done a

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<v Speaker 1>sharp left and ran down the alleyway, very familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the fish and chip shop, knowing they have the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the back alley. He was doing straight down there

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<v Speaker 1>and we met.

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<v Speaker 2>In something a Jackie Chan movie where someone ros soon

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<v Speaker 2>jumps through a window and then they carry on the chase.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what happened there? If you go through the

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<v Speaker 3>site or rejoin the chase.

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<v Speaker 1>Side and then we meet to blindside him to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>An older gentleman caught up with us and he's taken

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<v Speaker 1>over taking charge of said he's under. He's putting them under,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest all three of us are just staying

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<v Speaker 1>there in silent wait.

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<v Speaker 3>The old now is going to put me off if.

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<v Speaker 6>You do it.

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