WEBVTT - #150 Mum Wicks Is In The House!

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew. Good morning. Hi, Hi, how are you. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>some fantastic news for you. Please. Someone has suggested a

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<v Speaker 1>middle name for the pending Johnson that is to be born, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Marley suggested one, which I like. I'm going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>a secret is Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to two doting dads. I am Maddie j

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<v Speaker 1>and I am Ash.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a podcast all about parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the good, it is the bad and the

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<v Speaker 1>relatable until he say relentless again, but I didn't well done,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. We don't give advice, Ash. So there is

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<v Speaker 1>a doting list by the name of Mel. Her name

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<v Speaker 1>is She has no kids. She doesn't have any anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird. Rp your dogs. She owns the surf Shop Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>which I am a senior team writer for. That's a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that where I bought my board on Board. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of shops. I got Mono Vail, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got Byron, They've got two in Bali And anyway, she is.

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<v Speaker 1>She listens every week regardless, and I pop in there

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<v Speaker 1>every week and she always harps on about how much

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<v Speaker 1>she loves us. So thank you, Mel. Can I just

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<v Speaker 1>say I love Mel, I love you, she will love that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got stunning red glasses she wears just so you know.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very very cool. Okay, so she can I just

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<v Speaker 1>have a look at that. Yes, of course that's for

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<v Speaker 1>your car.

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<v Speaker 2>Air Freshman perfect because the Volkswagen is very moldy at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dangy. Yeah, that's gonna get you. That's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>your Farralf.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you nice little air fresh No, what has she got?

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<v Speaker 1>Mel? Hit me? So you mentioned in a podcast a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago that there was Christmas. Eve, spit

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<v Speaker 1>it out. What do you got for me? Come on, Eve? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>poppy Eve Johnson boom, I don't wanna.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's a great suggestion, but it was Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Day that we conceived.

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<v Speaker 1>He can get back. It's still relevant, Eve, Eve. Bit

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<v Speaker 1>of like a street name.

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<v Speaker 2>Eve's got to shive doesn't really roll off the love it,

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<v Speaker 2>Eve Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's poppy Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just just just the tail end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should can continue with May. Like my

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<v Speaker 1>mum is Mary Maywicks. Beth Is mayor Bethany Maywicks. That's weird,

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth may Wicks, that's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got noise canceling heads and we'll get to my mum.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure she is in the she's in the room. She's

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<v Speaker 2>currently sitting on the couch with headphones on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna let it Marin. I'm not saying no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying yes. I'm saying and.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, well, maild hay Ash.

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<v Speaker 2>I just came straight from an incredible sporting event.

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<v Speaker 1>The Olympics, the Enhanced Olympics close similar.

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<v Speaker 2>This event has been postponed week after week after week

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<v Speaker 2>because the weather's been terrible here in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't let the kids run in.

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<v Speaker 2>The wet cross country Finally happened three day changes. This

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<v Speaker 2>morning was this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I told you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to get on the newsletter of the email.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not on there email blast, so I rely purely

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<v Speaker 2>on the group chat on WhatsApp. And so I'm in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, guys, like anyone off the restaurant tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, yeah, it's a ninet fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>The group chat. I got added to that and I

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<v Speaker 1>removed myself immediately. Oh now it's it's useful. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it would be useful, but I'm like not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>So this morning was the morning and it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was exciting. The only kindy year one and two were

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<v Speaker 2>running okay, so it was great. It was short, it

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<v Speaker 2>was punchy.

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<v Speaker 1>What was yours again? Yours is like two kilometers a kilometer?

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<v Speaker 1>I think ours was like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess if that was like a ten k equivalent. Ours

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<v Speaker 2>was like the fifteen hundred. It was like a good

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<v Speaker 2>middle distance. They have like a little like would you

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<v Speaker 2>call it a quadrangle?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that word. Go unter, the discoverage wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>With two laps, two laps around the front courtyard.

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<v Speaker 1>The quad, the quad, thank you? Wow, I was nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Were there any kids crying? Oh yeah, they get mate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite like okay. Race one, Race one, boys and

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<v Speaker 2>girls raced together. One girl, God, she quick. She was

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<v Speaker 2>like she she won by like a lap.

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<v Speaker 1>Center to the Enhanced Games. Aaron Magnuson, like, it was

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<v Speaker 1>incredible to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there with my sister and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>look at this girl, and I was like, she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>After the first lap. Faster doping, doping. I was definitely dope.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that can I tell you, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in primary school, there was a there was a

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<v Speaker 1>rumor older years, not kindy, there was rumors of a

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<v Speaker 1>kid that was doping. Why he was like lightning. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, start fast, go really fast in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then finish really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is he now?

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<v Speaker 1>His name's James Magnuson. I don't know. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was just like a rumor.

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<v Speaker 2>That spreads through the schoolgard I and then we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>the other week about Oscar wanted to be the fastest

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<v Speaker 2>and like the street cred within the school, it gets

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<v Speaker 2>you being number one. I was like, I wonder how

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<v Speaker 2>Mary is going to go? Like she wasn't into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Leading up to the race, she was like why do

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<v Speaker 2>we we spoke about it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like why do we questioning it? What reason?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you have to, but I need a reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, because it's fun and the boys are

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<v Speaker 2>just like foaming at the mouth at the start line.

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<v Speaker 2>The boys, She's just let go the lashes and like.

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<v Speaker 1>The great of the school.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was there was there was triumphs.

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<v Speaker 1>There were tears. Not Marley's race.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one boy, one boy, and everyone had finished. He

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<v Speaker 2>had about fifty meters to go. He was coming last,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just stopped and said, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it, no glory.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then he kind of stopped. And then

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<v Speaker 2>because it was hard, It wasn't it. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>big space, and there's a lot of kids moving around,

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<v Speaker 2>and the teachers, you know, it's a kindy classes, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're not super serious about it. But then they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of started the next race and he hadn't finished, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the mom was there going, oh, like Billy, Billy

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't finished the race, and then he just stood there

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<v Speaker 2>and then so she had to then go get Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't want to finish because he was so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ah, he's definitely gonna have a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>when he's older.

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<v Speaker 2>But Marley was very excited. How did you go good?

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<v Speaker 1>She was like middle of the pack, middle of the pack.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. You want when like Oscar was the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the pack too, but he lost a shoe in

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<v Speaker 1>the first I remember. I remember we had at school.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a Stephen Bradbury moment at a regional carnival.

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<v Speaker 1>So the regional carnival was close to us, was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like in Narrawbeene around the lake, but it gets

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<v Speaker 1>really muddy there, like a spritz of rain and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a slip and slide dangerous. Anyway, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the race. I wasn't part of this moment. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't that good at cross country. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell everyone I was. They were all sort of

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<v Speaker 1>getting close to like the final bend, and the final

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<v Speaker 1>band was really muddy, and they all slipped over and

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<v Speaker 1>then just someone waltzed through. Not me. It did bump

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<v Speaker 1>me up a few positions, but I were all like

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<v Speaker 1>slipped over, real injured. But they were like, yes, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, It's like there was something about it can be

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<v Speaker 2>any level, any age, any type of sporting event, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm locked in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm putting money on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to race back here for this record.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your time back? I was like, you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like hold the bat, and Marley's like holding the

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<v Speaker 1>bat now, and You're like, I've got it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to stay. I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see the big kids. Because from grade one they

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<v Speaker 2>then split it to boys and girls. It's getting serious.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the clip bought out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I want to hang around for the

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<v Speaker 2>full show, but obviously I had to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm missing the action right now. We can go back

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<v Speaker 1>after this. I mean they running all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Race will be over, but yet's very it's very nerve wracking. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>as a parent, when do they have athletics? That's really

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<v Speaker 2>going to be nervous that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to my sister about that. And only until

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<v Speaker 2>grade three do they do like long jump up. Until then,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like egg and spoon race.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine Marlon and I was trying to do a long jump.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah just been like, why are we doing this? I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, jump, he's so competitive. Oh yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>do recall primary school being like the faster you run,

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<v Speaker 1>the more chicks you got.

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<v Speaker 2>It's annoying though, how much how much the kids really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy you being there?

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<v Speaker 1>I missed this one though, because I was here. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember Sorry, No, as April was there, she cried the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. I was like, why just stop crying, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an emotional morning. I think she was more crying

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<v Speaker 1>for like the third gradest who were crying. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it. I don't want to die more

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<v Speaker 1>of a library guy. But I wasn't going to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad I did. I'm yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, as they run past you and they

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<v Speaker 2>get they look at you in the eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just light up. What sort of shoes was she in?

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<v Speaker 2>She had added as those black? No, she just upgraded

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<v Speaker 2>from the nikes to the right. Kids running in like

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<v Speaker 2>full jumpers and tracksuits.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what are you doing? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean like the school jumpers and tracks sty coming

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<v Speaker 1>to like aerodynamic marley running in the same thing. Kathy Freeman.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one girl because obviously got the option of

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<v Speaker 2>like the dress or the squat, and she was wearing

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<v Speaker 2>one girl was wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>The dress with stockings and like ballet slippers. Shoes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got this very good. Speaking of shoes, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>new addition to the Wick's household. We were walking past

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<v Speaker 1>we're in Big w and we're walking past a slipper

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<v Speaker 1>rack and it had slippers. April loves a good slipper

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<v Speaker 1>and they had kids boots too. Does she go a gown?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she? She looks like a gown kind of gal. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that story where I've thrown a few

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<v Speaker 1>gowns out because she hangs on to them. At one time,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is when she stopped cooking for me. Is

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<v Speaker 1>she was stirring spaghetti and the sleeve and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of it, and then she leant down and

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<v Speaker 1>went to taste it, and I was like, oh, bring

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<v Speaker 1>that mouth over here. Anyway, Yes, there was ugboot rack

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<v Speaker 1>and April was like like eight bucks, perfect kids. Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>got a pair two, which was like a green they

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<v Speaker 1>were a dinosaur. Masie wanted something similar, but they only

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<v Speaker 1>had rainbow one like covered rainbow, which are really really cute.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's been a couple of weeks since we've had

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<v Speaker 1>them and the kids love them. The only complaint from

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar the whole time was oh, my feet are really

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<v Speaker 1>sore in these. And I was like, oh, it's pro

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<v Speaker 1>because they're shit right, They're just cheap shit like shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be sor in an ug boot I know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, like trying to explain what you mean. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks went by and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>really complaining about it. I'm like, give it here, bring

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<v Speaker 1>it to your old bait. I mean, but a quick

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<v Speaker 1>look at these ones, get them up on the prop

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<v Speaker 1>them up and I was like, oh, okay, no wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the papers and the cardboard that keeps them

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<v Speaker 1>in shape still in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, how did you fit your foot

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<v Speaker 1>in there? And he was like, oh, I just crunched

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<v Speaker 1>my toes, you idiot. And then I looked in the

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<v Speaker 1>other shoe and it was the same. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>when you go to try on shoes and the attendant

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<v Speaker 1>goes takes out the pate, the mesh paper stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>the cardboard that keeps it in show. He's walking around

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks like the Chinese boundary feet. I looked down

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<v Speaker 1>he's got carpal tunnel and I'm like, you're five.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like this, do you want to say, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think these might be too small for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Because then he thought I might take him off him,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like running here. It was like I

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<v Speaker 1>told you, they was all. I'm like, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be more specific.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably thinking why are people so obsessed with his

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<v Speaker 2>ug boots?

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<v Speaker 1>They're terrible. They're a terrible shoe. But it was when

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<v Speaker 1>we pulled it out, he was so embarrassed. He was

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<v Speaker 1>like and when he's realized that how dope he is

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<v Speaker 1>about this particular thing. He fucking just took off up

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<v Speaker 1>the hall away like in his room, slam the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear him, but he must have been like pretty damn good.

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<v Speaker 1>Now yeah, now he's like, oh, can I do a

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<v Speaker 1>cross cross country?

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<v Speaker 2>Last week, I had a tricky night, ash tricky, tricky,

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<v Speaker 2>tricky night. Lawla's dropped her naps at daycare. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to give them an email. Oh that's right, Yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>not napping, beautiful. But apparently the kids because they ramp

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<v Speaker 2>up the learning, the learning ramps up, so they get

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<v Speaker 2>more tired bullshit, And.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his teachers going, you know what, let's fucking just

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<v Speaker 1>put them all asleep. Yeah, let's have it. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a long lunch. They're like, hey, hey, you have some melotonin.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they've said, yeah, we'll keep a close eye on her.

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<v Speaker 2>We make sure she won't have her sleep. She comes

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<v Speaker 2>home and she's exhausted, she's absolutely gassed, just like any

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<v Speaker 2>little thing sets her off.

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<v Speaker 1>She's probably used to the naps down.

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<v Speaker 2>And also because she's been last week, she was missing

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<v Speaker 2>mum as well. But it was like, it was tough, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough. I was like, you need to you need

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<v Speaker 2>to have one piece of carried on your plate. Just

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<v Speaker 2>eat one vegetable.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, you're a terrible dad. I hate you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like oh, and then like brushing your teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you need to you just need to

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<v Speaker 2>brush your teeth just just a little bit, just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, just like get the toothbrush in there. And

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, you, ah, a terrible father. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, okay. Carl was copying that. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>bed bath in a routine like start to finish, put

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<v Speaker 2>up a story, and I was like, I did see that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I've copped. And just to make myself

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully you get a little bit better. I I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to read you a couple of messages that

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<v Speaker 2>I got some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Ash.

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<v Speaker 2>I now know that kids, once they hit I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's the age of like four, they start to understand

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<v Speaker 2>the dialogue that cuts deep to parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah yeah, and like Lola uses it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Good thing. I'm was petty, just as petty as them.

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<v Speaker 2>So one person wrote to me Ash, she said, I

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<v Speaker 2>got You're not the best mummy in the world anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>When I let go of her hand after cuddling her

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<v Speaker 2>for after one and a half hours to go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>and then from a daddy says, mate, my five year

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<v Speaker 2>old boy just started yelling like a bansheet, saying that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love him anymore because I say words that

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<v Speaker 2>are bad to him all the time. The bad words

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<v Speaker 2>were it's time for bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you're naughty? Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>They just know the neighbors probably think I'm horrible to him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>last one, Yeah, the other day, my four and a

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<v Speaker 2>half year old was eating breakfast with me and his

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<v Speaker 2>one and a half year old brother when he said,

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<v Speaker 2>looked at me in the eyes and mentioned, we just

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<v Speaker 2>like mum more than you. But that's okay, just so

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<v Speaker 2>brutally honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Oscar poking my tummy the other day and goes,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it so squishy? You fuck? And then I

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<v Speaker 1>locked him in the cupboard. It's so hurtful, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if they said it early and that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really understand. But now that you say to them, don't

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<v Speaker 1>say that you hate people. It's really strong word and

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<v Speaker 1>all sort of stuff, and then they whip that back

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<v Speaker 1>at Adie. You're like, I wish I never taught you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I sometimes am tempted to say this, you're a bad daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get as peedy. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes Lula will look at me and she's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>got a really big nose, and I'm like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>nice to mention anything about someone else's personal appearance, and okay,

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<v Speaker 2>one time I did say, you have funny teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not bad, right, Okay, so okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, of all the insults I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go with about appearance, I'll go with teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said funny, right, yeah, yeah, you could have

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<v Speaker 1>gone making She she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like what And I was like, I doubled down

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<v Speaker 2>and was like, yeah, you got you got, you got

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<v Speaker 2>funny teeth, balling your eyes out, random mom. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>like you instead, I have funny teeth. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to teach her a lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, and it was was like, don't say that to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like that's the only thing that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to make her understand If I'm like, you're a bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter, how do you feel? That's how I feel when you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I hate you too? Yeah I get petty too.

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<v Speaker 1>I respond back, like if Oscar's like something about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, guess what yours gonna look the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's called genetics. Genius hates it when you

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<v Speaker 1>just laugh in his direction, laugh at me. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to teach him laughing with you and laughing at you.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other day he fell over in the mud

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<v Speaker 1>out the front. He was playing with the mate. They

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<v Speaker 1>were mucking around. They were both muddy, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>look at money like you are like as like a

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<v Speaker 1>this is fun. You're having fun. If you're mudey, you've

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<v Speaker 1>had fun, right, And he just went red and just

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<v Speaker 1>stormed off, full muddied into the house, into his beder,

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<v Speaker 1>fully muddied, and I was like, guess what, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like what. I was like, you've got to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>in there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we have been teasing your mother, who's been so patient,

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<v Speaker 2>so patient, sitting on the cash, not said a word. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>quiet as mouse, Let's bring her in. Let's let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a quick chat. Yes, let's bring her in. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>just say yes? We have been trying to get you

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Things kept happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been very resistant, really no talk into the microphone, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is don't yell at your mother like that. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Grad, You're more nervous than nervous. I'm fucking nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>straight off, Straight off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone did message in and we have talked about Ash's

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<v Speaker 2>recent ADHD diagnosis. Does that come as a surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>No. No, he was very fulon child, and especially since

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<v Speaker 4>his older sister was extremely easy going, it was very noticeable.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dead.

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<v Speaker 4>But then lots of people used to say to me

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<v Speaker 4>that Beth was the odd one, that Ash was actually

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<v Speaker 4>the more than normal one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>What people used to say to me with Ash?

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<v Speaker 2>When did you realize that, gosh, this could be a

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<v Speaker 2>tricky baby. Tricky is the wrong word. Why did you

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<v Speaker 2>hate Ash?

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he didn't sleep at night very much, and he

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<v Speaker 4>was very loud, very vocal, even as a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>People used to say to me, what's wrong with them?

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<v Speaker 1>And because he'd just.

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<v Speaker 4>Be lying there, verbalizing, and I'd just say, like, he

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<v Speaker 4>just likes the sound of his own voice. Nothing has changed, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was extremely loving and very cute during the day.

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<v Speaker 3>At night, he was a little demoned, in fact, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad that we actually got letters in the box from

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<v Speaker 4>the neighbors complaining about this child screaming half the night.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad was it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well after about nine months where I occasionally.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd just sleep it, sleep through it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you get immune to it? No, not immune, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Exhausted to pass out. Really, we dealt with it while.

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<v Speaker 4>We took him out of his bedroom and put him

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<v Speaker 4>in the hallway and we blocked.

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<v Speaker 3>The front door, so I, no, I'm going to come

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<v Speaker 3>through the door.

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<v Speaker 1>We did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there no windows in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And the neighbors on the other side were a bit

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<v Speaker 3>more forgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>They were death pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what another neighbor wrote you a letter. Yeah, also,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bit passive aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't the cops come?

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<v Speaker 4>No, the cops didn't come. I got this note. I

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<v Speaker 4>was a bit taken back. And those neighbors hadn't been

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<v Speaker 4>in there long. And I went over there and it

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<v Speaker 4>was about nine or ten the morning. She offered me

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<v Speaker 4>a glass of wine, So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's the sort of people. Yes, Yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the problem massive, That's what I'm getting from this.

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<v Speaker 4>When you were very loud, though, you were so loud

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<v Speaker 4>that you actually when you actually started speaking and talking.

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<v Speaker 3>You could tell that he'd actually damaged.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always had a very I had this voice when

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<v Speaker 1>I pass the coloring quick sig yes, well.

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<v Speaker 2>And was there a moment where he became obedient? Did

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<v Speaker 2>he grow out of that face? Was he toilet trained?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he someone that liked to bend the rules.

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<v Speaker 4>Pushed the envelope? You couldn't give him an she'd want

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<v Speaker 4>a mile. Here's numerous, numerous examples of that. At one stage,

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<v Speaker 4>we'd had a bit of ado at home and we

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<v Speaker 4>had some leftovers beers, and Wayne's his dad's not a

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<v Speaker 4>really big beer drinker, so we've stuck him in the cupboard,

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<v Speaker 4>the top shelf.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we had we had something.

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<v Speaker 4>Else coming up, and I said, oh, there is that

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<v Speaker 4>bear and then go up there and there's no beer there.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's about thirteen or fourteen.

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<v Speaker 4>And Wayne always he thinks his father wanted to overreact.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going on, just be chilled.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you know I set him down and I

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<v Speaker 4>should have done that. Blah blah blah, you know, blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, how did he respond when he got caught?

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<v Speaker 1>When he was.

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<v Speaker 4>We weren't we were trying to downplay it and not

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<v Speaker 4>make a huge issue.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew it was wrong, did you? That's the funny

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<v Speaker 1>thing was.

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<v Speaker 4>The funny thing was about two or three days later

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<v Speaker 4>he rang me up at work and goes, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>down on mates place.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I take a couple of beers?

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<v Speaker 4>You did example of Ashton, You couldn't sort of say

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<v Speaker 4>and really you're doing yourself take him no, because if

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<v Speaker 4>if I knew, I could give him an inch and

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<v Speaker 4>he wouldn't want a mile. Because with Beth you could say, oh, Beth,

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<v Speaker 4>you can do this today, and then she'd never asked

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<v Speaker 4>to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Hide and ship. Probably I'm not the only one in

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that house that was like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So saying that, I'd love to get your version of events,

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>because I know there was a case when ash was

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a little bit older than you have to pick him

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 2>up from the police station sixteen Queensland.

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 3>He was very lucky he wasn't seventeen because in Queensland

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't have boned his parents.

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he sent rules up there.

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we're very close to the border obviously, and

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 4>he managed to talk one of his mate's older brother

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 4>into giving him a driver's license.

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>His driver that you look similar, yeah kinda.

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they retain he's could have been a brother.

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, okay, And.

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 3>So I'm in bed. Was it was during the week too.

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I was in bed for Thursday night, yeah, yeah, Friday,

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and I got.

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 3>This phone call, Oh, this is police patient, We've got

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 3>your son here. What And he goes, can you come

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 3>come up?

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 4>And and I think I actually rang back because I

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 4>thought bloody mates are playing tricks or something, and they, oh, yeah,

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 4>we know, we've got to.

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Do that, they tell you on the phone call. Why.

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 4>I think he tried to get into the casino which

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 4>was across the.

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Road, which is like pick a pub you yeah, yeah,

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 4>It's like the most strictly policed thing. There's no way

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 4>they're going to go, oh mate.

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 3>You're joking, go away, go home.

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 4>No, they've got to phone the cops and do the

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 4>all the procedural things to maintain their licensees.

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't you just pick like a crappy little rs L.

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.160
<v Speaker 3>I was dumb, It's very dumb. He had the striped switch.

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Half my head.

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>What do we have on t shirt? Like a switch

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>sweat shirt?

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 4>It was like a child it's something in the screen sixteen.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Year old boy.

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I look like Oscar.

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 4>It looked like a sixteen year old boy trying to

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 4>get into.

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 2>What did you say to the person When he was

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 2>like this is not your idea?

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah it is. And then he was like,

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>what's your middle name? And I got it wrong? The

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>birthday wrong too, and then he was like I was like,

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>oh fuck. And then the shirt. My mate was like

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>run run, and I was like, in the middle of

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>the casino, we're going to.

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 4>Run to.

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, they came around arrested me in the

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>middle of the casino, and who got you? The cops

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>or the security. The cops, the casino, the security guary

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>kept me there, but the cops station was literally across

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the road. They were there in a halfbeat.

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 4>They were like, this is the easies Jobaday's happening.

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is it happened so fast that I

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>got we got me, and my may got dropped off

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>by a girlfriend's right. They were like, oh, I have

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>a good night guys, because we're going We're meant to

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>go to a bar that's on the outside of the casino.

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>But I think Josh was like, oh my mates are in.

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>They're just in the casino. We'll just go meet them.

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Were go. I was like, oh, yes, is so confident?

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>A bit pissed. I mean, I wasn't drunk. And then yeah,

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I was getting arrested and I look over and both

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of our girlfriends are still in the car park looking

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>over at me, going and I'm up against the cop

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>car like this. And then yeah, there I am in

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>look in the cop shop for the first time.

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 3>And I'm calling get a police.

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Different, that's different. That was that was different. Let's

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>not talking about that one. And then and then yeah,

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>all I remember is mum coming through the front door.

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 4>And they said to me, he's lying to us. I

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 4>just walked into them and I said, you idiots.

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Don't lie to the police.

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 3>I know what are you doing?

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 4>And anyway there, so they took us into the room

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 4>videotis and everything embarrassing moment of my life.

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Yours. I'm living the right.

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 4>And the other thing was that his grandmother, Nanny Olive,

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 4>was there at our place and she loves it drama

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 4>and she's like, oh, that's right, and I said, no,

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't. It was only like ten or eleven because

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 4>I got off the phone and I said to your father,

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 4>who was still I was in bed because I was

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 4>working there, and he's he was up, and I said,

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 4>you go and get your son.

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Overcome his son. It's a boy thing.

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 3>You go deal with it.

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 4>And he goes, oh, I've had to so, and then

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Olive goes, oh, come.

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>And she's the biggest drama cla.

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 3>She would have been in there all the cops, no,

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 3>telling all the stories.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>One of the only people that can tell Nan no.

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And she'll listen.

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 4>I just wait, no, all of you're staying here with

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 4>you your She actually gave me money to go out

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 4>that night.

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>That'd be right, NaN's only grandson. So I'm like, I'm

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the top tier. Yeah yeah, yeah. But I remember mum

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>walking in. I remember them sitting me down in that

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>room where they were filming and recording, and.

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 3>What about when you want to go to the toilet?

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So I was like, I really need to

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>go the toilet. And they were in this mode of like,

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>let's scare this kid.

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>And it was the only thing going on. It was

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 3>quite nice, had all these police on them.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>There was one other guy in the lock up who

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>was mental, and they were like put him in with

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>him and they were like, all right, well, we'll see

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you out here, but if you missed Mabe, and they

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>kept going in with Clive. Yeah, pretty much. He was

0:28:55.360 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>at the door like and then I was like fuck.

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And then they kept coming up to me with like

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>pictures of known criminals and putting them next to my

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>head to see if I was just like I was, no,

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding at all on a joke at all,

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and like no, I was just like a bunch of photos.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And then they were like they had like this woman

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>there that was across she was working like across where

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I was sitting, and they've obviously a cop. Sounds fun.

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>She was like real intimidating, like hair slicked back and

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>she was like don't move. I was like.

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like I need to go to

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the tour. They're like, yeah, we'll come. And what we're watching?

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I was like what.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Watch me? And I don't know what's going on. They're like,

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>just in case you dropped something down there. I was

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like like what, we don't know, you tell us and

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like no, no, no, And I was like

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>had to hold on because I was just heared together

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the tall and then walks in and they sit us down.

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>They have the video camera on, they have the whole

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>interrogation thing going on and asking me questions, and I

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think I got a single word out because I

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>cried the whole time.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was the you've used a stolen license across

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 4>the border, so it's a cross border felony.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Was going to.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 4>We lived in Tweety, had a new South Wales driver's license.

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 4>We were in Queensland, so we'd gone across the border

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 4>and that makes it that much worse. And even though

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 4>he tried to say it found this license, it's stealing

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 4>by finding.

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it was like you're going to jail, mate.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was going to jail.

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 2>They made it to the point and then they were Actually,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>it's probably lucky that happened because it kind of straightened

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>you out a little bit.

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, yeah, let's go because put us onto them.

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Quick.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>You must be very proud though, how ashes turned out.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely. He's a fine young gentleman, and he, as.

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 4>I said during the day, he has always been extremely

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 4>loving about his family and he's very loyal, sing it,

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 4>sing it. Yeah, So you know, I knew it'd be right.

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 4>And he's not dumb, well he's not. He can figure

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 4>things out that he figured that out, and I was like, okay,

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to go do this again.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>He's the type of person that can turn his hand

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>to anything.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Isaink. I'm feel I'm blushing. I'm blushing. Let's turn that off.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's do you want to ask?

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, here's an example of how loving he is.

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Please when when he was twenty or something, he was

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 4>at home still and I went over to New Zealand

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 4>for a while to do some study, and then and

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 4>then he took me to the airport way mess took

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 4>me into the airport and he wept the whole time

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 4>at the airport. And even when his sister went to

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Europe at eighteen, we drove her up to Brisbane and

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 4>he cried all the way home.

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. He is a very loving man.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Whenever I talk about crying, he has a go with me,

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>and you're you're the town crier.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to hang on. I've got back myself up

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>here a little bit. Just put yourself in my shoes

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>for a moment. Yeah, firstly, my sister moves away. Secondly,

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>my mom moves away. I felt abandoned. Matthew, you have

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to stay here with your dad. And I was like,

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>oh god, And I was like, I went the hierarchy

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>after they left, went Dad dog Ash And I was like,

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew that was going to happen, and I was

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>just just I was sad about it. I was sad.

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any PTSD being a grandmother?

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Is Oscar similar to ash was.

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Like a very similar. Oh my god, he's a little

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>lesh you know.

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 4>When I see him, he happens to be going to

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 4>the same school that Ashton went to. And to see

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 4>him in his school uniform, it was kind a flashback.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It was like a very start.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 3>He's not quite as. He's not quite as. He's not

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 3>as much a people person.

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 4>You were always very every like all my family and

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 4>my brother and I would loved Ashton because he was

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 4>he was sociable, he was up for him, you know,

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 4>and Oscar is a bit more, a bit more, you know,

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 4>a bit more mellow than that.

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>He's very similar, very sporty, loves to kick a.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Ball because a whip.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like, yeah, I energy cluff, I see so much.

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And now that, yeah, he goes to school at the

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>same school. I'm like waking out every time you take him.

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>There was the same crossing lady is there and I

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>spoke to her the other day and I was like,

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>how long are you been here for? And she was

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like thirty something years. I said, do you know the

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>last day of school here in two thousand and two.

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I you know, it's an emotional day like you've been

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>with his friends for like Earl splitting up to go

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to ther from high schools. In some instances, I was sad,

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>but I never let a tear out. That's a lie.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Until I crossed the rope and I said to him,

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you would never you would have a million

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>kids you see every day. And I was like you

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You're the last person I saw when I left this school.

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I was like, it's yourful, But yeah, you

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 1>are a big soft big softy when I need to be. Yeah,

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>for sure, But I like to suppress that, bury it

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>right down. But we did get one more question. If

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't mind, Matt, we got time, please go. One

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>more question that came from a close friend of mine

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that was through the through Instagram. They wanted to understand

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>your accounts of my twisted testicle as a teenager. Just

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>give us the how it went down.

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<v Speaker 4>We house swat with some old neighbors. We'd moved to Queensland.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh not Queensland, tweeteas and I think not that some

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 4>of it. The following someone we swapped hous of some

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 4>old neighbors. So we moved into their house just before Christmas. Yea,

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 4>and Ash straight away onto the mates, going surfing blah

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 4>blah blah, and off he disappears, and then I get

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>I get this phone call from him. But later in

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 4>the day, Oh, I've got a bit of a Tommy

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.919
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah, And I'm going, have you been eating

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 4>McDonald's guilty?

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 3>And he goes more you.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 4>I said, well, you know, maybe you just got coming

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.399
<v Speaker 4>out from eating too much for McDonald's too fast blah

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 4>blah blah. And then a couple of hours after that,

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 4>I get another phone call, but this is from the

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 4>boy's mum.

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's something really wrong with Ash. He's got this

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 3>really bad pain blah blah blah.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 4>So I said, okay, so we wayne Dad went and

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 4>got him and then he comes back, and then he

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 4>comes in the house and he leaves Ash and they

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 4>can't really goes there's something wrong with him, a bit

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 4>of take him to the doctor, my dad, doctors don't

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 4>go well, it doesn't feel.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>But he works in yet.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So it's like the day before Christmas, and so

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 4>we go to the local medical center. Wait, wait, wait,

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 4>is any one doctor and blah blah blah. Get in

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 4>there and he goes, I think it could be a

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 4>twisted tescical. You'd better go to the hospital. So then

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 4>we get up to the hospital and.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 3>They were really good because by the stage he was sweating.

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>He was gray. Dude, I'm telling you right now, the

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>most painful thing I've ever been through. I was sitting

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.879
<v Speaker 1>in a chair in the waiting room and I was like,

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I was white knuckling that chair so hard I thought

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I was melting the plastic, which.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Is it was must cruciating as a mother.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>The worst part is when my dad think he not.

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 3>We had people coming around for barbecues.

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>When Dad picked me up because he hadn't seen my

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>mate's mum in ages and I was in pain. He

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and my dad could talk the leg off a chair.

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>He decides to have a full conversation with this person.

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the car I'm beeping the horn and he's like,

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I stop being rude, like and I was like, it's

0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>my fucking nuts and he just went use it.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 2>The nuts ended up fine. You've had now two beautiful children. Yes,

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 2>when you look at the father that ashes turned into

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>what makes you most proud, the patience.

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 4>He shows, the hands on because you know, you guys

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 4>are so much more hands on.

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>The first for knowledge.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we didn't really we just just did what

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.439
<v Speaker 4>our parents do. Well, now you guys think a lot

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 4>more deeper about it, the whole parenting thing.

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know, so I really admire that his relationship

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 3>with April is very good, and his in laws it's

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:39.479
<v Speaker 3>very good.

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting. All I'm hearing is that un likable.

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 3>And he's always been. He's always been.

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's not lazy, he's a he's not said

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 4>on us. But I remember thinking of because he left school.

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 4>He took himself off from school, and I said, you

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 4>can't leave school because he was and if he had

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 4>stayed in Sydney's no way he would have left school

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 4>a year ten. But everybody up there leaves at year

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 4>ten because all the dads are trading. Yeah, And I said, well,

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 4>you need.

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 3>To get yourself something. So he did.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 4>He went out and got himself an apprenticeship, which I

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:13.720
<v Speaker 4>knew he wouldn't finish.

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>I said, he'd be bored stupid.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I did. I did my time. I just haven't finished

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the education.

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know I knew he wouldn't sort of

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 3>stay on that level.

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, you've raised a great young man and I'm very

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>privileged to call him a friend and a co host.

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Now did you ever catch him masturbating?

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow?

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>No, I did.

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Ask him once though, because after the operation, the doctor

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 4>didn't say to me, oh, you might want to take

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 4>him off to the species to make sure everyth that's working.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 4>And I remember six months later thinking, you know, do

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 4>I really want to bother with that?

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 3>I just said to her, how's it going down there?

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 2>And way?

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, must be right as clo as she came, hopefully

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking all right, let's wrap this up. Yeah, thank you

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>so much. All right, it has been enlightening.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thanks for having me pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, mom Ash, you just signed for listener questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to revisit peir Rants next week for sure,

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 2>for sure, do not panic if your bit bangers come

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>people are.

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Probably thinking right now, where is the themes on? I

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.959
<v Speaker 1>know they're probably like, I need a headache to quick

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 1>it'll come back next week.

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Fear not so questions, Ash, I've got one for you, Ay, Ash,

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I would like to know. This is a question for myself.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I've submitted this on social media too, dotting dads on

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Instagram and I set the question and the question reads.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, said.

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<v Speaker 2>Ash, are there any places that you feel should be

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>child free?

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>My house?

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I did see there was a Reddit thread and someone said,

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I think everywhere should be child free and we should

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>just have designated child areas, like where you go for smoke.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's genius, like a pub. There's only spots that

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>you can have your kid in that part of the

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you get fined if your kids like find a

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.959
<v Speaker 1>way not an a leash or something. I start telling

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>my kids that. I would say the shops. I think, like,

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the Okay, let me be specific. Okay, the

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>shops themselves in a shopping center. But the shopping center

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>bit where there's like the playground and stuff can kids

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>in there? But like for example, if it's like there's

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a toy shop, no kids are allowed in there? Is this

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>is this for yourself, for them, This is so that

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I have to do with meltdown. Also, if they're not

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>allowed in woolies, I'd get ship done so much faster.

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree. If it's like, hey, kids, you're not allowed

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to be woolies. Have got like a crash or a

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>crash however you want to pronounce it out the front

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>A crash and it's just a pen and you just

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>heard them in they've got a they've got a blue

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>heeler that hurts them.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>In perfect Is this the thing or is this what

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 2>you want it to be?

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>This is what I wanted to be. Sorry, yes, I

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, what about you? What do you got?

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>This is hard because I'm also like hindering myself and

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>my people, the other parents. But I reckon, Ash, I reckon.

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there should just be not as a blanket rule

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that kids should not be allowed on this particular.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Why do I feel like this is going to be groundbreaking?

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I would like there to be.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 2>This is long haul flights, particular flights that you can

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>book where it's entirely child free genius, so obviously like

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to there'll be.

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Other flights available. A swingers crews.

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>So if I'm traveling with the kids, absolutely there's the

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>option to book a child friendly flight. But if I'm

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>traveling by myself trying to escape the kids, I just

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>think there should be a flight, even if there's like

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you know the big big planes, there's like two stories,

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>like put the kids down the bottom of the basement

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and then upstairs can be changes. Yeah, yes, in the

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>body of the plane. Next you carry your pets, you like,

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 2>just check them in.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And you put them in a carrier and see you

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>on the other side. Maybe I'm not there to comfort

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you if something happens.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 2>I just think, like I sympathize with parents. I would

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>never have a crack at anyone who's got a screaming child.

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 2>But when you've escaped your kids and you don't have

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to sit next.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 1>To a kid, that's what we're talking about. Taking a

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:31.919
<v Speaker 1>trip without the kids this year, just like a couple

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>of nights I said to April because she was like,

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>what about this place, this place, And I was like,

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>there's kids in the photos. I'm not going anywhere near

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a place that has fucking kids.

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to book an adult only are you?

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Fucking oath are you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I see a kid, I'm just kind of throw him

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 1>into the ocean, So be like, I do you haven't

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>seen my timmy, have you? No? No, he can swim

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>right anyway. I totally agree because I know, like when

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>I was younger and I was on like if I

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>had no kids and getting on a flight and I

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>get onto a fight because I would buy a cheap

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.240
<v Speaker 1>ticket and they'd be fucking like ten screaming kids around

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>me to drive me crazy. But I was obviously much younger.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand what the parents were going through. Did

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you see just on this really quick that someone went viral?

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Someone made little gift bags for the people sitting around

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>them to to say, hey, look, just as a pre

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>apology if my child is a bit disturbed during the flight,

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>and it had like some little snacky some lollies, little

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like sudoku.

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>If a random person is like, hey, you going, there's

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 2>a little gift bag, it's.

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Like give it as the kids. Yeah no, well, I'm

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>just like, what do you got in there? A couple

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of pills? It was clear because that's the only way

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I can get it on the plane. They were like,

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you know how they're like in they have to be

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.319
<v Speaker 1>in those ziplocked bags and it's just got on their

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>little note saying Hi, my child is X years old.

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the child might have been autistic

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>or something, and it was just like just just want

0:43:58.320 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to say thank you for your patience.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're gonna have a terrible experience on this flight,

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 2>but just to manage your expectations. This is going to happen,

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 2>because like, that's a nice touch.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 1>There was also that other video where that guy was

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>on a tour our flight and that kid would not

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>stop annoying him and no one was saying anything to

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the kid. Remember did you say that? So he was

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>there headphones on. He must have interacted once with a game.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>You know sometimes if you interact with a kid and

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a one off to you, but they think it's

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 1>a game. And he was like knocking the headphones off

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>his head and the parent was like and the guy

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is hell. Hell started filming it because

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>it was so bad, twelve hours to bring in these

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>child free flo.

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm saying child free flights.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's like they're in business class now, these

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>kids know i'mbelieving Okay, Matthew, it is my turn, and

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. Hit me, and that

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>question is, as followers, we turn this down. If you've

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>got kids in the car, at what age do you

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>think that you start to tell your kid kids that

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 1>certain things aren't real? Just preface this to the parents.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>If I reckon, it has to be done when you

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 2>start coping a lot of heat, right, because we have

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 2>now we've got the question from Ali of like, well,

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 2>how does how do how.

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Does he do it?

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It is there are so many people such a short

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>amount of time, how is that possible? And I'm like, well,

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 2>it's magic and they're like, ah, sure, like question answer,

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 2>put it to rest. But once they start like really

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<v Speaker 2>starting to grill you, and they're like strong line of questioning,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, once, yeah, Once they're digging deeper and like

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<v Speaker 2>the line of you know, an answer with the word

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<v Speaker 2>magic doesn't quench their appetite.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well said.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, And they're like but up, but how but

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 2>show me how? And they need facts. Then I think

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<v Speaker 2>there starts to come a time where you got to go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>look kid, I fucking lie to you for seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think when they figure out that you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk into the remote control to YouTube. That's when you

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<v Speaker 1>need to tell them before someone else does.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you find out Santa wasn't really look.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we didn't have Christmas in my house. Remember if

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<v Speaker 1>you recall from two years ago that I broke the

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<v Speaker 1>news to that story and it was on the Daily

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Mail or something calls from New York. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a movie about you. In my house, we had

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<v Speaker 1>no Christmas. We didn't really do Easter in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween was like if a kid came to the door,

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<v Speaker 1>Mum over here, literally, she'd be like, damn. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really recall, but I know that the neighbors around us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were really friends with they did. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't allowed to say anything, even as a kid, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you were that kid.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on the corner of the street being like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>hear Timmy.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll learn one day.

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<v Speaker 5>But I was thinking about this question, and I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 5>if you've got if your child has a younger sibling, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>that's so yeah, me too, you know, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>do I wait until the youngest is old enough to

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<v Speaker 5>tell them both, or do I try and confine in Oscar,

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<v Speaker 5>who's a blabber mouth of the highest guard that you

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<v Speaker 5>you can't tell because he would just hold.

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<v Speaker 1>It over and be like, do you really think Santa

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<v Speaker 1>is real? Because I know the.

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<v Speaker 2>True That's what my older brother did. I was grade

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<v Speaker 2>I was grade one, and he was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking idiot and I was I was like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, there is no Santa Claus put a cigarette. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's on me and I was like, I was like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember being like, you you're wrong, he is real? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes and I think I ran to mum and

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<v Speaker 2>I was in tears, being like.

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<v Speaker 1>Is tell me, Please tell me it doesn't sow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think she did keep the facade going for

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit longer than Eventually, after multiple cigarette burns

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<v Speaker 2>by my brother, I was like, it's it's a sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, and it's a sad time. That is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a.

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Sad moment when the tooth fairy Easter Bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be more sad for April

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<v Speaker 1>and the kids. I don't really care that much because

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a reflection of my childhood. We can thank

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 1>my mum for that. But yeah, look I'm daunting there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just daunting though, how I'm going to explain it,

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<v Speaker 1>because realistically, if you want to get to the needy ingredient,

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<v Speaker 1>we're encouraging a stranger to enter your house in the

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night. Very confusing, and in some instances

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>they take a tooth, that's theft, you know, they do

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>replace it with money in some instances. But like, are

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<v Speaker 1>we seriously going to sit here and encourage a bearded

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 1>old man breaking into a baking and entering into he'd

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<v Speaker 1>get locked up for life.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only does he I guess he gives you stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've got to like reward him. You've got to

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<v Speaker 2>like you've got to leave, you got to feed him,

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 2>You've got to give him drink, You've got.

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<v Speaker 1>There's got to be some sort of crime about breaking

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<v Speaker 1>into someone and actually giving them something. These kids, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom of this Santa Claus thing. Ash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is our episode, done and dusted.

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<v Speaker 1>us a bit naked picture of Santa. Do it? Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Coomebye see you. I've definitely got your arm at the

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>moment because it's like it's trying to have sex with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking back off. He's trying to get me to give

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<v Speaker 1>a fillatio. You're letting nudge and cock in you.

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