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Speaker 1: Matthew. Good morning. Hi, Hi, how are you. I've got

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Speaker 1: some fantastic news for you. Please. Someone has suggested a

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Speaker 1: middle name for the pending Johnson that is to be born, So.

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Speaker 2: Marley suggested one, which I like. I'm going to keep

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Speaker 2: a secret is Bell.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to two doting dads. I am Maddie j

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Speaker 1: and I am Ash.

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Speaker 2: And this is a podcast all about parenting.

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Speaker 1: It is the good, it is the bad and the

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Speaker 1: relatable until he say relentless again, but I didn't well done,

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Speaker 1: thank you. We don't give advice, Ash. So there is

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Speaker 1: a doting list by the name of Mel. Her name

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Speaker 1: is She has no kids. She doesn't have any anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's weird. Rp your dogs. She owns the surf Shop Ah,

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Speaker 1: which I am a senior team writer for. That's a joke.

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Speaker 1: Is that where I bought my board on Board. They've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of shops. I got Mono Vail, I've

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Speaker 1: got Byron, They've got two in Bali And anyway, she is.

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Speaker 1: She listens every week regardless, and I pop in there

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Speaker 1: every week and she always harps on about how much

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Speaker 1: she loves us. So thank you, Mel. Can I just

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Speaker 1: say I love Mel, I love you, she will love that.

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Speaker 1: She's got stunning red glasses she wears just so you know.

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Speaker 1: She's very very cool. Okay, so she can I just

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Speaker 1: have a look at that. Yes, of course that's for

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Speaker 1: your car.

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Speaker 2: Air Freshman perfect because the Volkswagen is very moldy at

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 1: It's dangy. Yeah, that's gonna get you. That's gonna get

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Speaker 1: your Farralf.

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Speaker 2: Then you nice little air fresh No, what has she got?

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Speaker 1: Mel? Hit me? So you mentioned in a podcast a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that there was Christmas. Eve, spit

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Speaker 1: it out. What do you got for me? Come on, Eve? Okay,

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Speaker 1: poppy Eve Johnson boom, I don't wanna.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's a great suggestion, but it was Christmas

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Speaker 2: Day that we conceived.

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Speaker 1: He can get back. It's still relevant, Eve, Eve. Bit

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Speaker 2: Eve's got to shive doesn't really roll off the love it,

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Speaker 2: Eve Johnson.

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Speaker 1: No, it's poppy Eve.

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Speaker 2: I was just just just the tail end of it.

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Speaker 1: I think you should can continue with May. Like my

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Speaker 1: mum is Mary Maywicks. Beth Is mayor Bethany Maywicks. That's weird,

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Speaker 2: She's got noise canceling heads and we'll get to my mum.

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Speaker 2: Sure she is in the she's in the room. She's

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Speaker 2: currently sitting on the couch with headphones on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Gonna let it Marin. I'm not saying no, I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying yes. I'm saying and.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, well, maild hay Ash.

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Speaker 2: I just came straight from an incredible sporting event.

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Speaker 2: This event has been postponed week after week after week

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Speaker 2: because the weather's been terrible here in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: They don't let the kids run in.

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Speaker 2: The wet cross country Finally happened three day changes. This

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to get on the newsletter of the email.

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Speaker 2: I'm not on there email blast, so I rely purely

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Speaker 1: I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, guys, like anyone off the restaurant tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, it's a ninet fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The group chat. I got added to that and I

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Speaker 2: So this morning was the morning and it was it

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Speaker 2: With two laps, two laps around the front courtyard.

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Speaker 2: Because you have to, but I need a reason why.

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Speaker 2: But Marley was very excited. How did you go good?

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Speaker 1: She was like middle of the pack, middle of the pack.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't that good at cross country. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was able to race back here for this record.

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Speaker 1: What was your time back? I was like, you're in,

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to stay. I was like, I want

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Speaker 2: I was like, I want to hang around for the

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Speaker 1: Just light up. What sort of shoes was she in?

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Speaker 2: She had added as those black? No, she just upgraded

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Speaker 1: to like aerodynamic marley running in the same thing. Kathy Freeman.

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Speaker 2: There was one girl because obviously got the option of

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Speaker 2: like the dress or the squat, and she was wearing

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Speaker 2: one girl was wearing.

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Speaker 1: The dress with stockings and like ballet slippers. Shoes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got this very good. Speaking of shoes, there's a

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Speaker 1: new addition to the Wick's household. We were walking past

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Speaker 1: we're in Big w and we're walking past a slipper

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Speaker 1: rack and it had slippers. April loves a good slipper

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Speaker 1: and they had kids boots too. Does she go a gown?

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Speaker 1: Is she? She looks like a gown kind of gal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: she was stirring spaghetti and the sleeve and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I now know that kids, once they hit I think

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, and like Lola uses it all the time.

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Speaker 2: So one person wrote to me Ash, she said, I

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Speaker 1: Now, you're naughty? Yea.

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Speaker 1: I remember Oscar poking my tummy the other day and goes,

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Speaker 2: I sometimes am tempted to say this, you're a bad daughter.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes Lula will look at me and she's like, you

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Speaker 2: nice to mention anything about someone else's personal appearance, and okay,

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Speaker 2: one time I did say, you have funny teeth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said funny, right, yeah, yeah, you could have

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Speaker 2: Was like what And I was like, I doubled down

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Speaker 2: and was like, yeah, you got you got, you got

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Speaker 2: But I feel like that's the only thing that's going

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Speaker 1: Daughter, how do you feel? That's how I feel when you?

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Speaker 1: Oh I hate you too? Yeah I get petty too.

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Speaker 1: I respond back, like if Oscar's like something about me.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's called genetics. Genius hates it when you

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Speaker 1: So the other day he fell over in the mud

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Speaker 1: this is fun. You're having fun. If you're mudey, you've

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Speaker 1: had fun, right, And he just went red and just

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Speaker 2: Hey, we have been teasing your mother, who's been so patient,

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Speaker 2: quiet as mouse, Let's bring her in. Let's let's have

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Speaker 2: a quick chat. Yes, let's bring her in. Can I

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Speaker 2: just say yes? We have been trying to get you

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Speaker 3: Things kept happening.

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Speaker 1: I've been very resistant, really no talk into the microphone, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is don't yell at your mother like that. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Grad, You're more nervous than nervous. I'm fucking nervous,

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Speaker 2: Someone did message in and we have talked about Ash's

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Speaker 4: No. No, he was very fulon child, and especially since

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Speaker 1: That's dead.

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Speaker 4: But then lots of people used to say to me

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: What people used to say to me with Ash?

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Speaker 2: When did you realize that, gosh, this could be a

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Speaker 3: Didn't?

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Speaker 4: Well, he didn't sleep at night very much, and he

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Speaker 3: People used to say to me, what's wrong with them?

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Speaker 1: And because he'd just.

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Speaker 4: Be lying there, verbalizing, and I'd just say, like, he

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Speaker 4: just likes the sound of his own voice. Nothing has changed, Yes,

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Speaker 3: At night, he was a little demoned, in fact, so.

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Speaker 4: Bad that we actually got letters in the box from

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Speaker 1: How bad was it?

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Speaker 4: Well after about nine months where I occasionally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get immune to it? No, not immune, just.

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Speaker 3: Exhausted to pass out. Really, we dealt with it while.

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Speaker 4: We took him out of his bedroom and put him

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Speaker 3: The front door, so I, no, I'm going to come

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Speaker 1: We did the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there no windows in the hallway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the neighbors on the other side were a bit

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Speaker 1: They were death pretty much.

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Speaker 2: And so what another neighbor wrote you a letter. Yeah, also,

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Speaker 1: Didn't the cops come?

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Speaker 4: No, the cops didn't come. I got this note. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the sort of people. Yes, Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: the problem massive, That's what I'm getting from this.

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Speaker 4: When you were very loud, though, you were so loud

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Speaker 3: You could tell that he'd actually damaged.

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Speaker 1: He's always had a very I had this voice when

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Speaker 1: I pass the coloring quick sig yes, well.

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Speaker 2: And was there a moment where he became obedient? Did

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Speaker 2: he grow out of that face? Was he toilet trained?

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Speaker 2: Was he someone that liked to bend the rules.

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Speaker 4: Pushed the envelope? You couldn't give him an she'd want

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Speaker 4: a mile. Here's numerous, numerous examples of that. At one stage,

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Speaker 4: we'd had a bit of ado at home and we

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Speaker 4: had some leftovers beers, and Wayne's his dad's not a

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Speaker 3: And then we had we had something.

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Speaker 4: bear and then go up there and there's no beer there.

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00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: And he's about thirteen or fourteen.

438
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 4: And Wayne always he thinks his father wanted to overreact.

439
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: I'm going on, just be chilled.

440
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: It's okay.

441
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know I set him down and I

442
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 4: should have done that. Blah blah blah, you know, blah

443
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 4: blah blah.

444
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Anyway, how did he respond when he got caught?

445
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: When he was.

446
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 4: We weren't we were trying to downplay it and not

447
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 4: make a huge issue.

448
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: He knew it was wrong, did you? That's the funny

449
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: thing was.

450
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 4: The funny thing was about two or three days later

451
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 4: he rang me up at work and goes, I'm going

452
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 4: down on mates place.

453
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: Can I take a couple of beers?

454
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: You did example of Ashton, You couldn't sort of say

455
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 4: and really you're doing yourself take him no, because if

456
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 4: if I knew, I could give him an inch and

457
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 4: he wouldn't want a mile. Because with Beth you could say, oh, Beth,

458
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 4: you can do this today, and then she'd never asked

459
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 4: to do it again.

460
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: Hide and ship. Probably I'm not the only one in

461
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,239
Speaker 1: that house that was like that.

462
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: So saying that, I'd love to get your version of events,

463
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: because I know there was a case when ash was

464
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: a little bit older than you have to pick him

465
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: up from the police station sixteen Queensland.

466
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: He was very lucky he wasn't seventeen because in Queensland

467
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have boned his parents.

468
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he sent rules up there.

469
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're very close to the border obviously, and

470
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 4: he managed to talk one of his mate's older brother

471
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 4: into giving him a driver's license.

472
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: His driver that you look similar, yeah kinda.

473
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they retain he's could have been a brother.

474
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, And.

475
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: So I'm in bed. Was it was during the week too.

476
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: I was in bed for Thursday night, yeah, yeah, Friday,

477
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: and I got.

478
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: This phone call, Oh, this is police patient, We've got

479
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: your son here. What And he goes, can you come

480
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: come up?

481
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: And and I think I actually rang back because I

482
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 4: thought bloody mates are playing tricks or something, and they, oh, yeah,

483
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 4: we know, we've got to.

484
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Do that, they tell you on the phone call. Why.

485
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: I think he tried to get into the casino which

486
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: was across the.

487
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: Road, which is like pick a pub you yeah, yeah,

488
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: you know.

489
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: It's like the most strictly policed thing. There's no way

490
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: they're going to go, oh mate.

491
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: You're joking, go away, go home.

492
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: No, they've got to phone the cops and do the

493
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: all the procedural things to maintain their licensees.

494
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just pick like a crappy little rs L.

495
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: I was dumb, It's very dumb. He had the striped switch.

496
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: It was.

497
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: Half my head.

498
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: What do we have on t shirt? Like a switch

499
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: sweat shirt?

500
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 4: It was like a child it's something in the screen sixteen.

501
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: Year old boy.

502
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: I look like Oscar.

503
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: It looked like a sixteen year old boy trying to

504
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: get into.

505
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: What did you say to the person When he was

506
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: like this is not your idea?

507
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah it is. And then he was like,

508
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: what's your middle name? And I got it wrong? The

509
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: birthday wrong too, and then he was like I was like,

510
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: oh fuck. And then the shirt. My mate was like

511
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: run run, and I was like, in the middle of

512
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: the casino, we're going to.

513
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: Run to.

514
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: And then yeah, they came around arrested me in the

515
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: middle of the casino, and who got you? The cops

516
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: or the security. The cops, the casino, the security guary

517
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: kept me there, but the cops station was literally across

518
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: the road. They were there in a halfbeat.

519
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 4: They were like, this is the easies Jobaday's happening.

520
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: But the thing is it happened so fast that I

521
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: got we got me, and my may got dropped off

522
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: by a girlfriend's right. They were like, oh, I have

523
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: a good night guys, because we're going We're meant to

524
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: go to a bar that's on the outside of the casino.

525
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: But I think Josh was like, oh my mates are in.

526
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: They're just in the casino. We'll just go meet them.

527
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: Were go. I was like, oh, yes, is so confident?

528
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: A bit pissed. I mean, I wasn't drunk. And then yeah,

529
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: I was getting arrested and I look over and both

530
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: of our girlfriends are still in the car park looking

531
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: over at me, going and I'm up against the cop

532
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: car like this. And then yeah, there I am in

533
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: look in the cop shop for the first time.

534
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: And I'm calling get a police.

535
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Different, that's different. That was that was different. Let's

536
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: not talking about that one. And then and then yeah,

537
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: all I remember is mum coming through the front door.

538
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: And they said to me, he's lying to us. I

539
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: just walked into them and I said, you idiots.

540
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 1: Don't lie to the police.

541
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: I know what are you doing?

542
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 4: And anyway there, so they took us into the room

543
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: videotis and everything embarrassing moment of my life.

544
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: Yours. I'm living the right.

545
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: And the other thing was that his grandmother, Nanny Olive,

546
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 4: was there at our place and she loves it drama

547
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 4: and she's like, oh, that's right, and I said, no,

548
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: it wasn't. It was only like ten or eleven because

549
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 4: I got off the phone and I said to your father,

550
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: who was still I was in bed because I was

551
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: working there, and he's he was up, and I said,

552
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: you go and get your son.

553
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Overcome his son. It's a boy thing.

554
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: You go deal with it.

555
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: And he goes, oh, I've had to so, and then

556
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 4: Olive goes, oh, come.

557
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: And she's the biggest drama cla.

558
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: She would have been in there all the cops, no,

559
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: telling all the stories.

560
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: One of the only people that can tell Nan no.

561
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: And she'll listen.

562
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: I just wait, no, all of you're staying here with

563
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: you your She actually gave me money to go out

564
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: that night.

565
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: That'd be right, NaN's only grandson. So I'm like, I'm

566
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: the top tier. Yeah yeah, yeah. But I remember mum

567
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: walking in. I remember them sitting me down in that

568
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: room where they were filming and recording, and.

569
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: What about when you want to go to the toilet?

570
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I was like, I really need to

571
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: go the toilet. And they were in this mode of like,

572
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: let's scare this kid.

573
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: And it was the only thing going on. It was

574
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 3: quite nice, had all these police on them.

575
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: There was one other guy in the lock up who

576
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: was mental, and they were like put him in with

577
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: him and they were like, all right, well, we'll see

578
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: you out here, but if you missed Mabe, and they

579
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: kept going in with Clive. Yeah, pretty much. He was

580
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: at the door like and then I was like fuck.

581
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: And then they kept coming up to me with like

582
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: pictures of known criminals and putting them next to my

583
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: head to see if I was just like I was, no,

584
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding at all on a joke at all,

585
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: and like no, I was just like a bunch of photos.

586
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: And then they were like they had like this woman

587
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: there that was across she was working like across where

588
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: I was sitting, and they've obviously a cop. Sounds fun.

589
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: She was like real intimidating, like hair slicked back and

590
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: she was like don't move. I was like.

591
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

592
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: And then I was like I need to go to

593
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: the tour. They're like, yeah, we'll come. And what we're watching?

594
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: I was like what.

595
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: Watch me? And I don't know what's going on. They're like,

596
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: just in case you dropped something down there. I was

597
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: like like what, we don't know, you tell us and

598
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: I was like no, no, no, And I was like

599
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: had to hold on because I was just heared together

600
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: the tall and then walks in and they sit us down.

601
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: They have the video camera on, they have the whole

602
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: interrogation thing going on and asking me questions, and I

603
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: don't think I got a single word out because I

604
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: cried the whole time.

605
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the you've used a stolen license across

606
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: the border, so it's a cross border felony.

607
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Was going to.

608
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: We lived in Tweety, had a new South Wales driver's license.

609
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: We were in Queensland, so we'd gone across the border

610
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: and that makes it that much worse. And even though

611
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: he tried to say it found this license, it's stealing

612
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: by finding.

613
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was like you're going to jail, mate.

614
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to jail.

615
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: They made it to the point and then they were Actually,

616
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: it's probably lucky that happened because it kind of straightened

617
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: you out a little bit.

618
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, let's go because put us onto them.

619
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Quick.

620
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: You must be very proud though, how ashes turned out.

621
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. He's a fine young gentleman, and he, as.

622
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: I said during the day, he has always been extremely

623
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: loving about his family and he's very loyal, sing it,

624
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: sing it. Yeah, So you know, I knew it'd be right.

625
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: And he's not dumb, well he's not. He can figure

626
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: things out that he figured that out, and I was like, okay,

627
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to go do this again.

628
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: He's the type of person that can turn his hand

629
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: to anything.

630
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Isaink. I'm feel I'm blushing. I'm blushing. Let's turn that off.

631
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Let's do you want to ask?

632
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, here's an example of how loving he is.

633
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: Please when when he was twenty or something, he was

634
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: at home still and I went over to New Zealand

635
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: for a while to do some study, and then and

636
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: then he took me to the airport way mess took

637
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: me into the airport and he wept the whole time

638
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: at the airport. And even when his sister went to

639
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: Europe at eighteen, we drove her up to Brisbane and

640
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: he cried all the way home.

641
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. He is a very loving man.

642
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Whenever I talk about crying, he has a go with me,

643
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: and you're you're the town crier.

644
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: I want to hang on. I've got back myself up

645
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: here a little bit. Just put yourself in my shoes

646
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: for a moment. Yeah, firstly, my sister moves away. Secondly,

647
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: my mom moves away. I felt abandoned. Matthew, you have

648
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: to stay here with your dad. And I was like,

649
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: oh god, And I was like, I went the hierarchy

650
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: after they left, went Dad dog Ash And I was like,

651
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to happen, and I was

652
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: just just I was sad about it. I was sad.

653
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: Do you have any PTSD being a grandmother?

654
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Now?

655
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: Is Oscar similar to ash was.

656
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Like a very similar. Oh my god, he's a little

657
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: lesh you know.

658
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: When I see him, he happens to be going to

659
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: the same school that Ashton went to. And to see

660
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: him in his school uniform, it was kind a flashback.

661
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: It was like a very start.

662
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: He's not quite as. He's not quite as. He's not

663
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: as much a people person.

664
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: You were always very every like all my family and

665
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: my brother and I would loved Ashton because he was

666
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: he was sociable, he was up for him, you know,

667
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: and Oscar is a bit more, a bit more, you know,

668
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: a bit more mellow than that.

669
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: He's very similar, very sporty, loves to kick a.

670
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: Ball because a whip.

671
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

672
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, yeah, I energy cluff, I see so much.

673
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: And now that, yeah, he goes to school at the

674
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: same school. I'm like waking out every time you take him.

675
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: There was the same crossing lady is there and I

676
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: spoke to her the other day and I was like,

677
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: how long are you been here for? And she was

678
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: like thirty something years. I said, do you know the

679
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: last day of school here in two thousand and two.

680
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: I you know, it's an emotional day like you've been

681
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: with his friends for like Earl splitting up to go

682
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: to ther from high schools. In some instances, I was sad,

683
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: but I never let a tear out. That's a lie.

684
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: Until I crossed the rope and I said to him,

685
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, you would never you would have a million

686
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: kids you see every day. And I was like you

687
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: You're the last person I saw when I left this school.

688
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: Oh well, I was like, it's yourful, But yeah, you

689
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: are a big soft big softy when I need to be. Yeah,

690
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: for sure, But I like to suppress that, bury it

691
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: right down. But we did get one more question. If

692
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: you don't mind, Matt, we got time, please go. One

693
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: more question that came from a close friend of mine

694
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: that was through the through Instagram. They wanted to understand

695
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: your accounts of my twisted testicle as a teenager. Just

696
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: give us the how it went down.

697
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 4: We house swat with some old neighbors. We'd moved to Queensland.

698
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: Oh not Queensland, tweeteas and I think not that some

699
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: of it. The following someone we swapped hous of some

700
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: old neighbors. So we moved into their house just before Christmas. Yea,

701
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: and Ash straight away onto the mates, going surfing blah

702
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: blah blah, and off he disappears, and then I get

703
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: I get this phone call from him. But later in

704
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: the day, Oh, I've got a bit of a Tommy

705
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, And I'm going, have you been eating

706
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 4: McDonald's guilty?

707
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: And he goes more you.

708
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: I said, well, you know, maybe you just got coming

709
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 4: out from eating too much for McDonald's too fast blah

710
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: blah blah. And then a couple of hours after that,

711
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: I get another phone call, but this is from the

712
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 4: boy's mum.

713
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: Oh, there's something really wrong with Ash. He's got this

714
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: really bad pain blah blah blah.

715
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 4: So I said, okay, so we wayne Dad went and

716
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 4: got him and then he comes back, and then he

717
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: comes in the house and he leaves Ash and they

718
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: can't really goes there's something wrong with him, a bit

719
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: of take him to the doctor, my dad, doctors don't

720
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: go well, it doesn't feel.

721
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: But he works in yet.

722
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: Anyway, So it's like the day before Christmas, and so

723
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: we go to the local medical center. Wait, wait, wait,

724
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: is any one doctor and blah blah blah. Get in

725
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: there and he goes, I think it could be a

726
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 4: twisted tescical. You'd better go to the hospital. So then

727
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: we get up to the hospital and.

728
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: They were really good because by the stage he was sweating.

729
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: He was gray. Dude, I'm telling you right now, the

730
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: most painful thing I've ever been through. I was sitting

731
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: in a chair in the waiting room and I was like,

732
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: I was white knuckling that chair so hard I thought

733
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: I was melting the plastic, which.

734
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: Is it was must cruciating as a mother.

735
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: The worst part is when my dad think he not.

736
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: We had people coming around for barbecues.

737
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: When Dad picked me up because he hadn't seen my

738
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: mate's mum in ages and I was in pain. He

739
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: and my dad could talk the leg off a chair.

740
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: He decides to have a full conversation with this person.

741
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm in the car I'm beeping the horn and he's like,

742
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: I stop being rude, like and I was like, it's

743
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: my fucking nuts and he just went use it.

744
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: The nuts ended up fine. You've had now two beautiful children. Yes,

745
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: when you look at the father that ashes turned into

746
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: what makes you most proud, the patience.

747
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 4: He shows, the hands on because you know, you guys

748
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: are so much more hands on.

749
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: The first for knowledge.

750
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: I mean, we didn't really we just just did what

751
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 4: our parents do. Well, now you guys think a lot

752
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: more deeper about it, the whole parenting thing.

753
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: And you know, so I really admire that his relationship

754
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 3: with April is very good, and his in laws it's

755
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 3: very good.

756
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting. All I'm hearing is that un likable.

757
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: And he's always been. He's always been.

758
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: You know, he's not lazy, he's a he's not said

759
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 4: on us. But I remember thinking of because he left school.

760
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: He took himself off from school, and I said, you

761
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: can't leave school because he was and if he had

762
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: stayed in Sydney's no way he would have left school

763
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 4: a year ten. But everybody up there leaves at year

764
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: ten because all the dads are trading. Yeah, And I said, well,

765
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: you need.

766
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: To get yourself something. So he did.

767
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: He went out and got himself an apprenticeship, which I

768
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 4: knew he wouldn't finish.

769
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: I said, he'd be bored stupid.

770
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: I did. I did my time. I just haven't finished

771
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: the education.

772
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know I knew he wouldn't sort of

773
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: stay on that level.

774
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: Well, you've raised a great young man and I'm very

775
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: privileged to call him a friend and a co host.

776
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: Now did you ever catch him masturbating?

777
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: Wow?

778
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: No, I did.

779
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 4: Ask him once though, because after the operation, the doctor

780
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: didn't say to me, oh, you might want to take

781
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: him off to the species to make sure everyth that's working.

782
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: And I remember six months later thinking, you know, do

783
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: I really want to bother with that?

784
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: I just said to her, how's it going down there?

785
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: And way?

786
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: Okay, must be right as clo as she came, hopefully

787
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: fucking all right, let's wrap this up. Yeah, thank you

788
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: so much. All right, it has been enlightening.

789
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for having me pleasure.

790
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, mom Ash, you just signed for listener questions.

791
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: We are going to revisit peir Rants next week for sure,

792
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: for sure, do not panic if your bit bangers come

793
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: people are.

794
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: Probably thinking right now, where is the themes on? I

795
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: know they're probably like, I need a headache to quick

796
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: it'll come back next week.

797
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: Fear not so questions, Ash, I've got one for you, Ay, Ash,

798
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: I would like to know. This is a question for myself.

799
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: I've submitted this on social media too, dotting dads on

800
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: Instagram and I set the question and the question reads.

801
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: Well, said.

802
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: Ash, are there any places that you feel should be

803
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: child free?

804
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: My house?

805
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: I did see there was a Reddit thread and someone said,

806
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: I think everywhere should be child free and we should

807
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: just have designated child areas, like where you go for smoke.

808
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh that's genius, like a pub. There's only spots that

809
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: you can have your kid in that part of the

810
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Do you get fined if your kids like find a

811
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: way not an a leash or something. I start telling

812
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: my kids that. I would say the shops. I think, like,

813
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not the Okay, let me be specific. Okay, the

814
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: shops themselves in a shopping center. But the shopping center

815
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: bit where there's like the playground and stuff can kids

816
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: in there? But like for example, if it's like there's

817
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: a toy shop, no kids are allowed in there? Is this

818
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: is this for yourself, for them, This is so that

819
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: I have to do with meltdown. Also, if they're not

820
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: allowed in woolies, I'd get ship done so much faster.

821
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: I agree. If it's like, hey, kids, you're not allowed

822
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: to be woolies. Have got like a crash or a

823
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: crash however you want to pronounce it out the front

824
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: A crash and it's just a pen and you just

825
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: heard them in they've got a they've got a blue

826
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: heeler that hurts them.

827
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: In perfect Is this the thing or is this what

828
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: you want it to be?

829
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: This is what I wanted to be. Sorry, yes, I

830
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: was like, wow, what about you? What do you got?

831
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: This is hard because I'm also like hindering myself and

832
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: my people, the other parents. But I reckon, Ash, I reckon.

833
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: Maybe there should just be not as a blanket rule

834
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: that kids should not be allowed on this particular.

835
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Why do I feel like this is going to be groundbreaking?

836
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: I would like there to be.

837
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: This is long haul flights, particular flights that you can

838
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: book where it's entirely child free genius, so obviously like

839
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: you're not going to there'll be.

840
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Other flights available. A swingers crews.

841
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: So if I'm traveling with the kids, absolutely there's the

842
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: option to book a child friendly flight. But if I'm

843
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: traveling by myself trying to escape the kids, I just

844
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: think there should be a flight, even if there's like

845
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: you know the big big planes, there's like two stories,

846
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: like put the kids down the bottom of the basement

847
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: and then upstairs can be changes. Yeah, yes, in the

848
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: body of the plane. Next you carry your pets, you like,

849
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: just check them in.

850
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: And you put them in a carrier and see you

851
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: on the other side. Maybe I'm not there to comfort

852
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: you if something happens.

853
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 2: I just think, like I sympathize with parents. I would

854
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: never have a crack at anyone who's got a screaming child.

855
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: But when you've escaped your kids and you don't have

856
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: to sit next.

857
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: To a kid, that's what we're talking about. Taking a

858
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: trip without the kids this year, just like a couple

859
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: of nights I said to April because she was like,

860
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: what about this place, this place, And I was like,

861
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: there's kids in the photos. I'm not going anywhere near

862
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: a place that has fucking kids.

863
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: Are you going to book an adult only are you?

864
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Fucking oath are you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If

865
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: I see a kid, I'm just kind of throw him

866
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: into the ocean, So be like, I do you haven't

867
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: seen my timmy, have you? No? No, he can swim

868
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: right anyway. I totally agree because I know, like when

869
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: I was younger and I was on like if I

870
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: had no kids and getting on a flight and I

871
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: get onto a fight because I would buy a cheap

872
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: ticket and they'd be fucking like ten screaming kids around

873
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: me to drive me crazy. But I was obviously much younger.

874
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what the parents were going through. Did

875
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: you see just on this really quick that someone went viral?

876
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Someone made little gift bags for the people sitting around

877
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: them to to say, hey, look, just as a pre

878
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: apology if my child is a bit disturbed during the flight,

879
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: and it had like some little snacky some lollies, little

880
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: like sudoku.

881
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: If a random person is like, hey, you going, there's

882
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: a little gift bag, it's.

883
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Like give it as the kids. Yeah no, well, I'm

884
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: just like, what do you got in there? A couple

885
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: of pills? It was clear because that's the only way

886
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: I can get it on the plane. They were like,

887
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: you know how they're like in they have to be

888
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: in those ziplocked bags and it's just got on their

889
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: little note saying Hi, my child is X years old.

890
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if the child might have been autistic

891
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: or something, and it was just like just just want

892
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: to say thank you for your patience.

893
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have a terrible experience on this flight,

894
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: but just to manage your expectations. This is going to happen,

895
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: because like, that's a nice touch.

896
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: There was also that other video where that guy was

897
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: on a tour our flight and that kid would not

898
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: stop annoying him and no one was saying anything to

899
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: the kid. Remember did you say that? So he was

900
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: there headphones on. He must have interacted once with a game.

901
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: You know sometimes if you interact with a kid and

902
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: it's a one off to you, but they think it's

903
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: a game. And he was like knocking the headphones off

904
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: his head and the parent was like and the guy

905
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: was like, this is hell. Hell started filming it because

906
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: it was so bad, twelve hours to bring in these

907
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: child free flo.

908
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying child free flights.

909
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like they're in business class now, these

910
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: kids know i'mbelieving Okay, Matthew, it is my turn, and

911
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Hit me, and that

912
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: question is, as followers, we turn this down. If you've

913
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: got kids in the car, at what age do you

914
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: think that you start to tell your kid kids that

915
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: certain things aren't real? Just preface this to the parents.

916
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: If I reckon, it has to be done when you

917
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: start coping a lot of heat, right, because we have

918
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: now we've got the question from Ali of like, well,

919
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: how does how do how.

920
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: Does he do it?

921
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: It is there are so many people such a short

922
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: amount of time, how is that possible? And I'm like, well,

923
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: it's magic and they're like, ah, sure, like question answer,

924
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: put it to rest. But once they start like really

925
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: starting to grill you, and they're like strong line of questioning,

926
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, once, yeah, Once they're digging deeper and like

927
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: the line of you know, an answer with the word

928
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: magic doesn't quench their appetite.

929
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said.

930
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: Thank you, And they're like but up, but how but

931
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: show me how? And they need facts. Then I think

932
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 2: there starts to come a time where you got to go, Okay,

933
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: look kid, I fucking lie to you for seven years.

934
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when they figure out that you can

935
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: talk into the remote control to YouTube. That's when you

936
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: need to tell them before someone else does.

937
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: How did you find out Santa wasn't really look.

938
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: Well, we didn't have Christmas in my house. Remember if

939
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: you recall from two years ago that I broke the

940
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: news to that story and it was on the Daily

941
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: Mail or something calls from New York. We're going to

942
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: make a movie about you. In my house, we had

943
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: no Christmas. We didn't really do Easter in my house.

944
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: Halloween was like if a kid came to the door,

945
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Mum over here, literally, she'd be like, damn. So I

946
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: don't really recall, but I know that the neighbors around us,

947
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: and we were really friends with they did. So I

948
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to say anything, even as a kid, because

949
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: it was like you were that kid.

950
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: He was on the corner of the street being like, listen,

951
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: hear Timmy.

952
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: They'll learn one day.

953
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: But I was thinking about this question, and I was thinking,

954
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: if you've got if your child has a younger sibling, yes,

955
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 5: that's so yeah, me too, you know, And it's like,

956
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 5: do I wait until the youngest is old enough to

957
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 5: tell them both, or do I try and confine in Oscar,

958
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 5: who's a blabber mouth of the highest guard that you

959
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 5: you can't tell because he would just hold.

960
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: It over and be like, do you really think Santa

961
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: is real? Because I know the.

962
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: True That's what my older brother did. I was grade

963
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: I was grade one, and he was like.

964
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Fucking idiot and I was I was like, what do

965
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: you mean.

966
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: He's like, there is no Santa Claus put a cigarette. Yeah, yeah,

967
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: it's on me and I was like, I was like oh,

968
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 2: and I remember being like, you you're wrong, he is real? Right,

969
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: it goes and I think I ran to mum and

970
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: I was in tears, being like.

971
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: Is tell me, Please tell me it doesn't sow.

972
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: And I think she did keep the facade going for

973
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 2: a little bit longer than Eventually, after multiple cigarette burns

974
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: by my brother, I was like, it's it's a sad.

975
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Time, and it's a sad time. That is going to

976
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: be a.

977
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: Sad moment when the tooth fairy Easter Bunny.

978
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be more sad for April

979
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: and the kids. I don't really care that much because

980
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: that's just a reflection of my childhood. We can thank

981
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: my mum for that. But yeah, look I'm daunting there.

982
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm just daunting though, how I'm going to explain it,

983
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: because realistically, if you want to get to the needy ingredient,

984
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: we're encouraging a stranger to enter your house in the

985
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: middle of the night. Very confusing, and in some instances

986
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: they take a tooth, that's theft, you know, they do

987
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: replace it with money in some instances. But like, are

988
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: we seriously going to sit here and encourage a bearded

989
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: old man breaking into a baking and entering into he'd

990
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: get locked up for life.

991
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: And not only does he I guess he gives you stuff,

992
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: but you've got to like reward him. You've got to

993
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: like you've got to leave, you got to feed him,

994
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: You've got to give him drink, You've got.

995
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: There's got to be some sort of crime about breaking

996
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: into someone and actually giving them something. These kids, we'll

997
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this Santa Claus thing. Ash.

998
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that is our episode, done and dusted.

999
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Yes it is another day, another week, another episode, another journey.

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00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: And if you have enjoyed this journey so far along

1001
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: with us, and you haven't subscribed, let me just tell

1002
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: you how bitterly disappointed I am in your behavior shocking.

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00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: Hop on now we might not come back next week.

1004
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might never happen, or actually, wait, we will

1005
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: be back next week and make sure you subscribe so

1006
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 2: it's in your inbox.

1007
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,040
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1009
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1010
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: why not send us something John inappropriate? Please don't send

1011
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: us a bit naked picture of Santa. Do it? Do it?

1012
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Coomebye see you. I've definitely got your arm at the

1013
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: moment because it's like it's trying to have sex with me.

1014
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Fucking back off. He's trying to get me to give

1015
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: a fillatio. You're letting nudge and cock in you.

1016
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Speaker 2: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

1017
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

1018
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

1019
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,080
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