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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for.

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Speaker 1: The time poor parent who just wants answers.

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Speaker 2: Now, I have some embarrassing news. You know how I

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Speaker 2: don't remember. I don't know Mother's day, Birthday's anniversary. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean I kind of do do I or don't I?

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Speaker 1: You remember that, you just don't make a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably the right way. Like, I know it's happening,

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Speaker 2: but I just it's just another day. Well, we had

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Speaker 2: a substantial milestone two days ago. One thousand episodes of

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Speaker 2: a Happy Families podcast on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm making it sound a bit anticlimactic, aren't I. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: we've done it a thousand times and we still can't

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Speaker 2: get it right. I mean, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: If you haven't gone back and listened to a one thousand,

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Speaker 2: there's a challenge for you.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't do it.

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Speaker 2: No, it'll make your parenting better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, started about one hundred and eighty four.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear a real evolution in the way the podcast

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Speaker 2: has sounded over the years. But a thousand episodes, Kylie,

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Speaker 2: a thousand episodes of Happy Families. Do you think that's

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Speaker 2: made a difference. Do you think it's helped people?

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Speaker 1: What I do know is that while ever you and

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Speaker 1: I are engaged in these kinds of conversations, we're better

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Speaker 1: parents for it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take that. I'll take you. I do get

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Speaker 2: feedback from people, not just mum. In fact, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's an old joke nobody listens except my mum. I

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Speaker 2: don't think my mum listens to this podcast ever.

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Speaker 1: I don't think she does.

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Speaker 2: Say no, does you want no?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: A thousand episodes, and our parents don't listen.

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Speaker 1: But our son in law does, Yeah, and so does

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Speaker 1: our painter.

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Speaker 3: We have a painter and he actually we were at

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Speaker 3: the top of his list the day he was here painting,

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Speaker 3: and he said, feels a bit weird listening to your podcast.

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Speaker 2: While I'm in your house.

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Speaker 1: So he decided he wouldn't listen to it that day.

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Speaker 2: A thousand episodes of Happy Families. I really, I know

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Speaker 2: I said it in jest, but seriously, if you've got

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Speaker 2: the capacity for it, go back and listen. You can

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Speaker 2: hear how bad we out at the start, but also

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Speaker 2: the things that we talk about and the way that

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Speaker 2: we can help your family. I reckon it'll make you

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Speaker 2: a better parent. That's my promise. It'll make you a

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Speaker 2: better parent. Anyway. If you are a new listener, thanks

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Speaker 2: for being here for episode one thousand and two.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't left a review, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good one. If you haven't left a review on

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts or on Spotify, go there, click the five

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Speaker 2: star button. We would be so stoked. A thousand episodes.

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Speaker 2: That's got to be worth a review. That'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Tell people what you think. Let everyone know that you've

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Speaker 2: listened to the podcast. You think that it's great. And

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Speaker 2: we've got six hundred and twenty six ratings with four

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Speaker 2: point eight out of five. I just looked it up,

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Speaker 2: four point eight out of five and the last one

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Speaker 2: that we received was from fief Fee Boss in April.

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Speaker 2: It was only a few weeks ago. Helpful and hope Field.

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Speaker 2: I have found calm in the chaos and hope in

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Speaker 2: the hard time.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 2: I recommend to any parent. That's a nice one, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to get more. Maybe you can jump on

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Speaker 2: is that and you.

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Speaker 1: See, let us know who your favorite is.

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Speaker 2: That was kind of a wicked laugh. All right, we

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Speaker 2: need to do some stuff here. It's nice to chat,

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Speaker 2: but we need to do some stuff, Kylie. Every Friday,

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Speaker 2: it's older better tomorrow. This is a bit where we

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Speaker 2: be better tomorrow because we want to be intentional on

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Speaker 2: our parenting. Me first, Me first?

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Speaker 3: Oh me? Right?

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Speaker 2: Ladies for gentlemen? Are you allow us say ladies before

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Speaker 2: gentlemen in twenty twenty four. I've never been politically correct before.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry for anyone who's so feminist a

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Speaker 2: I'm working on this book about masculinity at the moment,

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Speaker 1: We're not here to talk to open my door anytime

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get off this. You want to go first?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's official, yea, I am on sapchat.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be good. Can I start? Can

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Speaker 2: I start your I'll do better tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You're going to start my answer about it?

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Speaker 2: Now you go. But I've got to I've got to

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Speaker 3: Go. I have pushed against snapchat ever since the kids

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: I just correction, didn't understand it.

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Speaker 3: But I'm about to go away, and I was to

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Speaker 2: So are you going to use the word snapchat in

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am a meaningful way to connect with teenagers.

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Speaker 3: This is really hard. So I love using Marco Polo.

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Speaker 2: You've got to use Snapchat like Mico Polo. Okay, boomer,

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Speaker 1: Make me laugh.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome to twenty first cent.

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Speaker 1: As the world changes, there's just this wonderful opportunity for

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got to jump in here. I rail

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Speaker 2: You can connect better, you can keep them safer. And

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Speaker 2: And research shows that just connections, regardless of how meaningful

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Speaker 1: What's yours?

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Speaker 2: May I'll do better tomorrow? Oh gee, So that it's

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Speaker 2: not as fut as mine, No, it's not as it's

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Speaker 2: So there's a group of what like twenty thirty girls

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Speaker 2: who are aged between twelve and eighteen, and you have

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Speaker 2: some ways they're welfare, they're well being. That means though

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Speaker 2: that on a Wednesday night, I'm at home with Emily,

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Speaker 2: our ten year old.

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Speaker 1: Let's just put this in context. You have not been home.

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Speaker 2: No, that makes it tricky. When I'm traveling and you've

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Speaker 2: be there, it is tricky. But I've been home just

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Speaker 2: recently and had the opportunity to spend Wednesday nights with her,

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Speaker 2: and you left the other night in just in such

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Speaker 2: Because I'm going to make it a thing daddy daughter

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