WEBVTT - The Walking Red Flag 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.280 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.080 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.680 Amy Torber and coming up. On today's show, Olivia Rodgers 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:18.560 reveals shocking revelations about her marriage. Andre Ribello is sentenced 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.919 to life in prison. Sarah's Day's quest for the Ultimate 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:26.520 Yummy Mummy car continues, and our Friday debrief. But first, 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.040 it appears that Attis Paul is an Outspoken listener. Oh 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.640 my god, my stomach absolutely dropped when we got a 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.919 DM from a follower who said, Addis Paul has mentioned 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.199 you in his statement and there are a lot of 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.720 slides to get through in this statement. Oh I was 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.360 flicking through. I'm like, oh my god, what did he say? 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.559 On the thirteenth slide of his Instagram statement, he was 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.080 claiming that Mikhayla was doing stuff without the family's knowledge, 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.440 and he wrote or recently, when the Outspoken podcast talked 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.000 about how she personally threatened to sue them when they 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.279 covered the topic, something else we learn after she had 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.840 done it. Now, we are absolutely raring to talk about this, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.959 but we are going to have some self control and 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.080 do it on Tuesday, because everything is still coming out. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.240 There's so much back and forth going on, and we 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.920 want to have time to cover it properly. I loved 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.840 how many people were saying on TikTok that they couldn't 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.000 sleep because there were just new videos coming out every minute. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.280 Oh well, we were at family dinner when it first broke, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.760 and our dad had no idea what was going on. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.120 We're all huddled around the phone listening to Anna Pol's statement. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.240 I saw a TikTok and it was like, spare thought 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.319 for all the boyfriends right now that are lying in 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.280 bed next to their girlfriend listening to this twenty six 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.600 minute video. Well, I was about to hop into bed 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.520 at around ten to twelve, and then Mikayla Testa uploaded 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.520 her video and I saw I said part one and 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:41.679 I was like, no, I need to go to bed. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:46.720 What se of control? Andre Ribello has been sentenced to 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.760 life in prison after being found guilty of murdering his 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.840 mother for her life insurance. The twenty nine year old 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.559 will spend at least twenty five years in prison after 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.480 a jury found him guilty following an eight week trial. Now, 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.360 the reason we have covered this story in depth is 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:06.640 because Andre is the former boyfriend of Perth influencer Grace Episcopo, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.520 and the couple were in a relationship at the time 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.400 of his arrest and they share a son together. So 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.280 as a quick summary, Rebello killed his fifty eight year 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.160 old mother, Colleen, in her home in twenty twenty, after 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.960 taking out three life insurance policies in her name and 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.560 forging her will. Even though we've discussed this in so 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.000 much detail, when I saw the sentence handed down, I 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.320 think the gravity of this case really hit me. To 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.320 think that somebody would kill their own mother for money. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.120 It's really disturbing. I mean, I was pleasantly surprised to 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.799 see that he got life in prison, because there's been 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.119 a few instances where people have not got correct sentences. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.840 I think this is correct well. In the sentencing hearing, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.679 Supreme Court Justice Bruno Financeqez said, you killed her for 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:53.000 financial motive. It was a premeditated offense, a monstrous act 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.320 that was integral to a fraudulent scheme which you intended 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.280 to profit from life insurance policies taken out by you. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.000 It was an incomprehensible betrayal of the person who brought 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.160 you into this world. A devoted mother to her children 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.480 and devoted grandmother to her only grandchild. That's their very 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.760 strong words. I got shivers when you're reading it out, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.320 and I think it's because, unfortunately, because Andre is connected 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.000 to Gracie Piscopo, this whole case had a bit of 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:23.000 a glamorous aura about it. It was like, oh my gosh, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.600 this influencer's boyfriend who's a killer. We're actually forgetting that 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.840 this was a real woman, it was his mother. I mean, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.680 it's just incomprehensible. I think another big distraction as well 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.960 was this focus on influencers lives not being as real 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.040 as they portray online because there was a lot of 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.800 focus on Andre and Gracie's financials. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:43.240 Yeah. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.560 I mean, as we mentioned before, despite presenting this very 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.760 glamorous lifestyle online, it appears in twenty twenty, like a 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.600 lot of people, they were financially struggling with the pandemic. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.360 And I think that's why I was quite shocked to 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.480 see the way Gracie Piscopo actually responded to this news. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.280 So a day after the sentencing, she shared are real 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.800 and the caption said healing and moving on. Alongside those 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.600 sentiments was a video montage of her life over the 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.080 last couple of months, and the clips were mostly happy 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.560 moments with her and her six year old son, who 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.120 she shares with Rebello, alongside a vision of her with 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.480 her new boyfriend and the three of them have been 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.280 holidaying in Bali, and all of the vision was really 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.479 aesthetically pleasing. It was them in this paradise, enjoying this holiday, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.240 and in the middle of it there was vision of 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.839 her crying. But to me, I was just shocked that 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.080 after all of these accusations have been made against Rebello 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.880 and how he killed his mother to get this life 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.760 insurance so he could continue to finance this lavish lifestyle, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.720 that that's how you would choose to respond following his 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.840 CENTI it is a bit odd, But I do feel 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.120 for Gracie because she has copped it during this court case, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.839 like she's not on trial for anything, but her face 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.760 has been splashed everywhere over the media. There's been a 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.839 lot of discussion about her online as well, so I 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.320 think she has had a rough time. But I personally 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.800 would have shared maybe something about Andre's mother. I mean, 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.159 they were obviously close. It seems a bit odd to 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.480 share as he said such a glamorous reel. Yeah. Well, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:21.520 the real had a backing song which was this. It 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.479 was a really odd song choice because at first I 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.920 was like, is this dedicated to Andre? But then when 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.400 a new boyfriend featured, I was like, oh, okay, it's 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.919 about her son, saying that she is still happy that 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.320 she had her son with him and she's where she's 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.719 meant to be now in this new relationship. I also 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.520 think it was clear from this video that she is 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.360 really trying to distance herself from Andre. She has amped 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.920 up the PDA with her new boyfriend online. That would 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.839 be very difficult for her knowing that her son is 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.039 one day going to grow up and realize what his 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.159 father did. Yeah, and I mean, as we mentioned in 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.960 the intro, he is going to have a minimum of 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.720 twenty five years in jail, so by the time he 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.599 is eligible for parole, he'll be in his fifties. I 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.400 already own a range Rover Sport, but it's a five seater, 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:06.960 and now that I have three boys, I need a 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:11.280 bigger car. Sarah's Day's quest for the ultimate yummy mummy 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:15.200 car has continued. The self confessed holistic health princess left 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.200 her followers waiting six weeks for the second installment, but kay, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.200 it didn't disappoint. Yeah. This time around, Sarah and her 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.760 husband Kurt Tills reviewed a seven seater Range Rover, and 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.440 Sarah currently owns a five seater sports version of the car, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.479 but is looking for a bigger one now that she 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.240 has three kids. Back in February, when Sarah launched this 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.680 series on her social media channel, she had to put 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.840 out a disclaimer prior to the video launching, reassuring her 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.120 followers that she's not out of touch, but she would 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.400 only be reviewing luxury family cars and the first car 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.640 she ended up reviewing was the Lexus GX five point fifty, 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.719 which costs around one hundred and thirty thousand dollars and 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.599 at the time, she insisted the video was not sponsored, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.440 but she was purely sharing the review because her followers 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.280 asked for it. And this was all a little bit 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.760 fishy considering that Sarah's husband worked for Lexus last year, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.440 so he shot a campaign for the car brand as 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.960 well as shooting content for Lexus's Melbourne Cup function in 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.480 November twenty twenty three, What did you think about the 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.440 new review? Because I personally thought it wasn't as painful 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.520 as the first one. Yeah, I think the difference was 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.160 that she seems genuinely interested in actually purchasing this car, 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.440 so they seemed to be quite impressed with the features, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.840 rather than turning their nose up at the subpar luxury 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.440 features of the Lexus. Well, they both seemed genuinely excited 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.640 about some of the features of this car. There was 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.280 a mini fridge. There was also TVs on the back 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.040 of the sea. I mean, I want this car, and 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.160 to be fair, it was a lot better than the 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.160 Lexus GX, but that might be because it costs nearly 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.200 double the amount. So I could not believe it when 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.600 Sarah said that the car costs around three hundred and 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.600 fifty thousand dollars is ridiculous. And I could tell by 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.440 Kurt's reaction that you know, they actually want this car. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.800 Let's hear what they said is around three hundred and 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.640 fifty k. Very different to part one the car I 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:05.280 first reviewed. 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.560 It's exceptional that it is gorgeous. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.679 It's like having the space of a van without having 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.880 a van. I mean, goodness forbid that they consider a van. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.840 I did see someone say that they want Sarah to 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.680 review the Kear Carnival just for shitting giggles. Following her 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.560 less than favorable remarks about Lucree, I'd love to see 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.240 that as well. I just think it's so ridiculous with cars, 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.080 like what actually makes that car worth three hundred and 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.120 fifty thousand dollars? Like if you actually look at all 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.000 of the specs, I mean, what a couple of TVs 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.120 on the back of the seat that you could live without. Yeah. Well, 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.920 as soon as Sarah mentioned the price, I knew there 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.400 was going to be a lot of backlash. So one 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.080 person wrote, absolutely stunning car. I did gasp out loud 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.760 and almost lost my lunch when you mentioned the price tag. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.400 I knew it was going to be dollars, but not 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.920 that expensive, and another person added it makes me feel broke. Well, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.240 there was one comment that caught Sarah's eye, and it 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.400 read I can't imagine spending that much money on a 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:59.120 depreciating asset like a car now. Sarah was quick to respond, 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.520 writing I'm not that kind of person that buys a 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.200 car with an investment mindset. She then went on to 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.640 say it's also a shame when I've been vlogging when 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.080 I had two hundred dollars in my bank account, lived 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.400 at my parents' house, and was at UNI wondering what 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.280 I was going to do with my life. As soon 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.960 as someone creates success for themselves, a handful of people 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.360 won't clap and say congratulations, you did it. This handful 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.920 will scream boo and state I'm unrelatable. It's okay if 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.520 not every piece of content relates to you or is 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.840 targeted at you. This would make the Internet an extraordinarily 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:33.040 boring place. Now, someone else chimed in, saying not relatable content. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.600 For most people, that's seventeen point five percent of what 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.120 your house is worth, and Sarah responded, Unfortunately, Renee, you 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.600 can't please the masses on the internet. If I was 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.200 to test drive another car that perhaps weren't similar to 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.360 my current cars, others may comment that my video isn't 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.880 honest or authentic, as they know what car I'm most 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.720 likely to be looking at buying. I understand this car 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.160 isn't an option for everyone, but I'm just documenting me 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.880 test driving a bunch. It's not really that deep and 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.199 if it offends you, then swipe off the bu I 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.800 have ig reels swipe away. I love it. It's like 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.599 no one would believe it if I actually reviewed a 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.520 Keir Carnival, because I'm much more wealthier and I would 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.959 have a luxury car. Look, I'm not naive. We all 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.040 know Sarah's day is very wealthy, but it even surprised 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.560 me that she might drop three hundred and fifty thousand 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.679 dollars on a car. And I think the comment was 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.640 quite fair which mentioned that this person wouldn't spend that 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.720 much money on a depreciating asset like a car. She's 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.520 so triggered by it. It's like this is the Internet 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.760 in twenty twenty five. You put a piece of content 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.120 out there and people are going to have an opinion 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.320 on it. Just don't read the comment. We spoke about 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.560 the reaction to Georgie Stevenson promoting her own wealth last week. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.199 Do you think that people were attacking Sarah because it 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.720 doesn't really fit into her own branding to buy a 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.880 car like this. Yeah. We spoke in depth about how 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.400 Georgie Stevenson's personal brand aligns perfectly with her business brands, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.000 because not only does she have a wellness company, but 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.720 she also has a business that promotes manifestation courses and 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.440 goal setting so it makes sense for her to say 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.120 I set this goal and this, whereas with Sarah's day, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.080 her brand is a little bit all over the place 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.680 in terms of she started out as a fitness influencer 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.160 and then she has really turned into this mummy vlogging 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.600 and wanting to be relatable, and so she keeps saying 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.520 it's like her yummy mummy car or whatever the inference is, 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.760 and most mums wouldn't have three hundred and fifty thousand 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.800 dollars to spend on a car. Yeah, because she's probably 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.959 picked up a lot of followers recently because she's been 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.959 sharing in a very raw manner about the issues she's 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.599 been having with her son's sleep and how he's got reflux, 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.439 and then they're probably like, hang on, what you can 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.640 afford a three hundred fifty thousand dollars car? You're not 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.200 one of us? Yeah. Well, there were some followers that 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.000 jump to Sarah's defense. So one wrote, why do people 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.600 get so triggered about how much someone else is willing 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.320 to spend on a car? Damn, And Sarah replied. In Australia, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.720 we have this thing called tall poppy syndrome and it 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.040 is so real, particularly if you're female that has built 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.480 success from the ground up. I mean, there is a 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.840 lot of truth to what Sarah is saying. She has 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.640 got a point there now despite the negative commentary, this 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.280 is a real win for Sarah's channel. So at the 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.840 time of recording, the video has over a million views 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.840 on Instagram and great engagement. There's been heaps of likes, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:13.760 particularly a lot of sendons. There's over two thousand send ons. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.840 So it doesn't surprise me because everyone will be going, oh, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.480 fuck off. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.960 Continuing on the honesty train that I'm on. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.280 Olivia Rodgers has revealed just how close she came to 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.600 calling off her wedding with Justin mckeirn. In an Instagram 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.559 Q and A, the former Miss Universe contestant, shared some 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.880 shocking revelations about what led to her marriage breakdown. Olivia's 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.199 update comes as her ex husband faces charges of stealing 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.520 almost half a million dollars from his former employer to 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.320 allegedly fund a very serious drug habit. Now, Kate, before 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.280 we get into what Olivia had to say, can you 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.080 bring us up to speed with this relationship. Yeah, So 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.320 the pan met in twenty eighteen and they dated for 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.480 four years before getting married in February twenty twenty two. Now, 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.080 the wedding looked absolutely picture perfect, like a Pinterest board, 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.560 so fans were absolutely shocked when Olivia announced the split 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.200 eight months later. Since then, Olivia has been pretty vague 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.800 about what caused the breakup. She did do a couple 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.920 of podcast interviews where she admitted to being miserable in 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.960 the relationship and said that there were a lot of 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.559 big issues. However, she never went into details about what 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.679 those problems were out of respect for Justin. One thing 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.640 she did open up about was her IVF journey with Justin, 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.040 so that journey ended up being the breaking point for 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.640 their marriage, when she realized the thought of falling pregnant 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.959 to him terrified her. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:33.520 Well. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.080 On Tuesday Night, Olivia invited fans to ask her questions, 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.920 and as expected, she received an influx of questions about 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.880 her marriage breakdown. However, rather than ignoring them like usual, 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.319 she actually decided to speak her truth in a bid 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.080 to help others. Olivia wrote, my boundaries weren't being respected. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.760 There were patterns of behavior I didn't agree with, and 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.680 I had to come to realize our values were not aligned. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.400 Something significant happened in the relationship a couple of days 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.400 before the wedding. That was very upsetting for me. I 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.439 considered calling it off, but I felt like I had 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.960 too much to lose, not just for myself, but I 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.360 worried about how it would impact all of my family 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.960 and friends who had flown into state to be there 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.880 on the day, the money they would lose, etc. I'm 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.320 also an optimist, and I hope that things would improve. God, 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.080 would you like to know what actually happened? Like, it's 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.160 crazy to think because I was following Olivia and Justin 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.320 pretty closely at this time. I remember her Hen's party. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.880 I remember the beautiful dress she wore. You actually bought 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.600 me a similar bride light up headband to her. Like 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.920 she was absolute bride inspo. Everyone was pinning her wedding. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.040 She had the beautiful hydrangers, she had the two dresses. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.480 Everything looked perfect. And to think that she'd been crying 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.200 herself to sleep the night before the wedding and this 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.600 big incident occurred just days before. It blows my mind. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.320 It really does. And after going through the stress of 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.600 having a wedding before I would have said, oh, would 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.280 you just call it off? But there is a lot 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.040 of pressure on you, especially because a lot of Justin's 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.840 family were from per Yeah, and well her family were 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.880 from Adelaide. Yes, they held it in Melville so embarrassed, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.760 and there'd be so much stress leading into the day 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.080 that she might have been thinking, well, maybe once we 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.440 get married, things will be better. And the only person 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.520 that she confided in leading into this wedding was her mom. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.960 She said that her mum was actually quite supportive if 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.400 she wanted to call the wedding off. And she didn't 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.640 even tell her bridesmaids because she didn't want them feeling 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.120 uneasy on the day. And Olivia has gone on to 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:26.720 say that this was a big bread flag. So if 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.400 you're not willing to tell people that you're close to 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.120 what's actually going on, that would be really embarrassing. I 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.000 can see why she would have wanted to save face. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.360 I mean, her maid of honor is meant to be 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.640 going up there and talking about their love story, and 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.160 if she's got in the back of her head or 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.880 Justin's been a complete dickhead, how they going to go down? Well? Yeah, 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.840 And after sharing the answer to this question, Olivia jumped 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.680 on her stories to add this, I'm. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.560 Feeling really vulnerable after sharing that response that I just shared. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.320 My hands are shaking, my heart is racing. I've never 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:03.080 answered a question. I've never answered those questions like that before. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.480 So yeah, I feel vulnerable and I'm really attempted to 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.080 delete it, but I'm not going to do that now. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.320 The day after Olivia shared this Q and A, she 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.440 uploaded a TikTok where she shared five red flags to 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.240 look out for in a relationship, and she said this. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.000 I think it's so hard to know when to get 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.800 out of a relationship. And I wondered so many times 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.000 over the last few years if maybe I'd seen more 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.480 content of people sharing red flags in relationships and why 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.120 they got out of relationships that I'm out of, paid 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.200 attention to it, and called off my wedding before getting 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.440 married to the wrong person. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.240 Let's go through some of these red flags that Olivia shared. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.000 So the first was if you feel more uncertain about 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.000 the relationship and you spend more time questioning it than 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.800 you do feeling content, that's a big one. Yeah. The 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.320 second was when you think about the future with that person, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.640 you feel more uncertainty and you feel unsure about it 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.720 rather than feeling excited. I mean, what's disturbing is all 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.960 of the stuff that's come out about Justin recently. You 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.080 can see why these red flags were popping up. Yeah, 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.280 the next one was you don't feel that you can 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.240 communicate properly and you don't feel seen or heard when 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.359 you try to communicate with them. Number four, you feel 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.680 happier when you're away from that person and you feel 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.960 like you can be yourself. I actually resonate with that 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.520 one from a past relationship. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:20.879 Well. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.879 Number five was if they cross your boundaries multiple times 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.800 and their behaviors do not change. I find the timing 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.679 of these revelations very interesting because, as we mentioned in 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:35.240 the intro, Justin mckin is facing some very serious theft allegations. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.919 So in November, the Herald Son broke the news that 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.119 Justin had been accused of stealing almost half a million 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.800 dollars from his employer, Rocket Brands. So he worked as 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.840 the company's head of finance of five months before getting sacked, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.360 and it's alleged that he spent the money on drugs, 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.600 alcohol and gambling. And one of the allegations that got 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.080 a lot of people talking was that he was apparently 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.880 sleeping in the work toilets for up to four hours 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.679 a day, accused of taking excessively long lunch breaks and 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.720 frequently leaving the office without completing his duties. This was 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.320 all whilst he was getting paid two hundred thousand dollars 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.000 a year. That'd be quite nice getting to have a 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:12.880 little nap in the toilet. So we're getting paid two 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.800 hundred k now in knocked over. His boss reported the 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.360 alleged theft to Victoria Police, which sparked a criminal investigation. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.719 Justin was interviewed by detectives in early November, but criminal 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.119 charges have yet to be laid while the investigation continues. Well, 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:27.879 this is going to get really messy if there are 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.480 criminal charges laid, because this is when things start to 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.119 get more serious and jail time could actually be an 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:35.960 option if he was found guilty. Yeah. Well, he doesn't 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.000 appear to be taking it very seriously because he has 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.040 now failed to appear in court twice and it's believed 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.399 that the court is set to take his failure to 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.960 engage with the hearing as an acceptance of guilt. Well, 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.840 that's the thing. He hasn't made any public comments about it, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.680 he hasn't denied it. Well, he's gone offline, so he 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.080 died his Instagram account. Didn't he make a new one 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.360 though that didn't have any followers. Yeah, Well, he ended 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:01.080 up reappearing back on Instagram to coincide with his girlfriend 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.600 Tani Leeson's pregnancy announcement, So he is expecting a child 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:09.040 soon and it's all getting very messy. I can understand 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.760 why Olivia has come out and shared these details because 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.320 she has been front and center of this coverage when 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.719 the news broke. I mean I really felt for her 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.720 because her photos were splashed everywhere in the news articles 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.240 about this. She was constantly referenced as his ex wife. 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.720 And I think by Olivia coming out and condemning Justin's behavior, 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.359 it really absolves her of guilt by association. Yeah, and 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.080 of course, I mean she has nothing to do with 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.120 this theft. She had been broken up with him for 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.800 several years. But his behavior really is in stark contrast 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.119