WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Would You Take Grandma's Urn?

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land. Hi guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is Ask Guncut where

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<v Speaker 2>we answer you're deep, you're duck, and you're burning questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to everybody who's written in a question this week.

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<v Speaker 3>That was nice, Laura to trying to thank you and

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for people they're writing in the aftermaths as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do that soon. Oh okay, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually so excited by this.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about aftermaths for as long as we've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing Ask Gun Cut, which is a good five

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<v Speaker 2>years now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem is is that we've talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of talk, not a lot of action, which

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to not on USK.

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<v Speaker 2>That is exactly what I was going to say. That

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<v Speaker 2>is not an US problem. That is it for everyone

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<v Speaker 2>whose questions we've answered problem. And after all this time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd started to I'd started to get a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>self doubt because you guys rarely give us the update

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<v Speaker 2>on what has been happening after you send in the question.

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<v Speaker 2>You just the advice and then you run off into

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<v Speaker 2>the wilderness and we don't hear an update. But what

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<v Speaker 2>we've started doing now is every time we answer a

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<v Speaker 2>question on here, we have our magical fairies who work

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, who then contact you and tell you

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<v Speaker 2>we've answered the question, and we're getting follow ups. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're actually getting aftermaths now. So that's gonna happen next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Spoiler watch this face. Spoiler we have aftermaths. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Whilst I'm cackling for a second, someone reached me yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone commented on my Instagram and said, shut the fuck up.

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<v Speaker 3>The world doesn't need to hear that laugh. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And she was a middle aged woman.

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<v Speaker 1>It always is. What was the name, Wendy. We'll go

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<v Speaker 1>with Wendy. Do you actually I think it was Wendy.

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<v Speaker 2>It always is a middle aged woman. It always is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, while I say this, because you guys

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<v Speaker 2>know the whole tit out saga. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday. I said that their name was Stephen. That

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<v Speaker 2>was to save them, so you're gonna out them. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a Stephen. It was a Diana. Okay, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking Diana. And she was a middle aged woman too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what though?

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<v Speaker 4>The YouTube comments which seemed to be weirdly geared towards

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<v Speaker 4>me at the moment, in the negative ones always about appearance,

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<v Speaker 4>always from men. So YouTube and Instagram different audiences, different

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<v Speaker 4>karens yeap.

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<v Speaker 3>Keisha's a bit sensitive at the moment because someone commented

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<v Speaker 3>on her lipstick yesterday and said yuck.

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<v Speaker 1>That one didn't hurt me as much as the one from.

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<v Speaker 4>The week before, which I won't repeat here, but that

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<v Speaker 4>one really did get to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the one the week before. We're not going there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was called mate, Diana, fuck off, fuck off, Wendy.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, if your name's Diana and you love the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>please this is that was not aimed at you.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you. And Wendy. Also, I knowed even you're

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<v Speaker 1>all great. I know plenty of great Wendy. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>another day of being a girl on the internet, isn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more offensive to me because my laugh is like

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<v Speaker 3>the core part of who I am. Like, you can

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<v Speaker 3>change your lipstick, Keisha, I can't change my laugh. It

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<v Speaker 3>is ingrained who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we really do ask for it just by

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<v Speaker 2>putting ourselves out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our fault. Have you guys said, that's not doing

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<v Speaker 1>victim blame? I am the victim. Here was a joke.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you guys seen that video of Ariana grind on

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<v Speaker 4>a podcast where she's oh, by the way, another thing

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<v Speaker 4>the criticism.

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<v Speaker 1>I am highly aware now that.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps we should have been slightly more sensitive talking about Wicked,

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<v Speaker 4>because I did not realize how many people were Wicked

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<v Speaker 4>stands and how many people were going to come in

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<v Speaker 4>and support Ariana Grande. But there is a video of

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<v Speaker 4>her on a podcast from a couple months ago, and

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<v Speaker 4>she's talking and it sounds as though it's.

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<v Speaker 1>In her actual normal voice.

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<v Speaker 4>And then midway through it switches to that kind of softer,

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<v Speaker 4>more like baby style voice.

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<v Speaker 1>That she has. Well, like she forgot that she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in character for a moment, and people were like, hang

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<v Speaker 1>on a second, what just it? Was there a glitch

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<v Speaker 1>in your matrix? Like what happened there?

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of conversations online about Ariana having

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<v Speaker 2>this different voice, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>See the problem now, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand the outrage about it because she's clearly

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<v Speaker 2>a character in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called method acting, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's allowing that character to kind of flow into

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<v Speaker 2>her interviews and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's okay for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think it makes the whole production around it

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<v Speaker 2>more special.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that she stayed in character. I like, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who you are? Is she Gwen?

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<v Speaker 2>Is she? Because I've not seen Wicked, so Wicked people

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<v Speaker 2>don't come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we should talk about it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>have one question. Is she Gwenda? Is she the good

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<v Speaker 1>Witch Glinda? She's Glinda?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not Gwenda, not Wendy, Wendy, not Gwendall close.

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<v Speaker 4>But the one comment that I did see that I

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<v Speaker 4>thought was actually kind of maybe fair enough is that

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<v Speaker 4>apparently people who are singers sometimes deliberately speaking a higher

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<v Speaker 4>registrar because it softens the damage that they can do

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<v Speaker 4>their vocal.

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<v Speaker 1>Cords or something about I thought it was a bit strange.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're going to agree to be on a podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>to me, I think you're agreeing to talking for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she realized halfway through that she was damaging

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<v Speaker 2>her vocal cords, and she thought, this is my most

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<v Speaker 2>important assays.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she just thought, fuck, I slipped character.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think people have a phone voice, right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>normal for people to change their voice depending on their surroundings.

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<v Speaker 3>If somebody is sitting at home with their family having

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<v Speaker 3>a yarn, having a bari, then they have to go

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<v Speaker 3>and do a keynote present in front of a thousand people,

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to speak differently. Like if you pick up

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<v Speaker 3>a phone you have an important conversation. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>phone voice, like I try to sound a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more important, a little bit more intelligent, a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people read the audience and I think that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you use that voice on the podcast box?

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<v Speaker 1>I have an a Basha.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I did have an interesting message that came through

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<v Speaker 3>on Life on cart and I wanted to ask you

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<v Speaker 3>if you had ever experienced this, And I did put

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<v Speaker 3>on my Instagram as well. But Laura, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you're going to have a story surrounding this.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of our life has wrote in, Hey, so

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<v Speaker 3>I've just had this conversation. I've literally just heard this.

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<v Speaker 1>This girl just.

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<v Speaker 3>Found out that her partner cheated on her, and in retaliation,

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<v Speaker 3>she took his grandmother's own She took his earn, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the actual urn with the ashes in it. I cannot

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<v Speaker 3>wrap my head around this. Surely this can't be true.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who would take an earn? And if someone did,

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<v Speaker 3>what on earth would they do with it? Added the ashes,

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<v Speaker 3>hold it hostage, use it as a twisted.

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<v Speaker 1>Trophy of revenge.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the listener literally said, I for some reason,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Laura and your listeners are going to

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<v Speaker 3>have a story around this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a character assassination. Yeah, I'm not a who wrote that?

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<v Speaker 1>In was that Wendy again?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I added that in she just said, I

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<v Speaker 3>think your listeners will have stories, but I have story

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<v Speaker 3>that's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to know if this person, whoever this

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<v Speaker 2>person is, I would love to know if the guy realized, like,

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<v Speaker 2>does he check in on Nana frequently enough that he

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<v Speaker 2>noticed it was missing?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's only impactful if you're like, where the fucktion go?

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't just scoop it out and be like, ha ha,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm stealing Nana. Like you would notice an entire urn gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But you would only notice an urn gone if it's

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<v Speaker 2>in a particularly prevalent place in the house or if

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<v Speaker 2>it's something you check on, because they often people get

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<v Speaker 2>an urn.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I should shouldn't say often. I just mean

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<v Speaker 1>me recently.

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<v Speaker 2>You get an urn and then you put it somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>with the intention of scattering it. But it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>go on display. You might put it in a wardrobe

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<v Speaker 2>or put it somewhere, which sounds because like Nana doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>belong in a wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>About Nana was closeted a whole life. Goddamn it. If

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<v Speaker 1>your nan is in a wardrobe, take her ound.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought of maybe I've just been led down

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<v Speaker 3>the garden path by movies. But I always thought that

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<v Speaker 3>you get an urn and you put it on the fireplace.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a fireplace, but if I did, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like that's where I put my urn.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken to it earns a lot lately. But the reason, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is a good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>For that, but it does depend on how much you

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<v Speaker 2>spend on the urn, because there's different caliber of urns.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the plastic one, which is just like a blue

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<v Speaker 2>plastic box, which people are not putting on the mantelpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>Or there's what my mum went for with poor old Nana.

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<v Speaker 2>She just came in a giant griplock bag, So you're

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<v Speaker 2>not putting that on the mantelpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And what the wolworst bag hasn't been hung over the

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<v Speaker 3>fireplace with it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Think that maybe it was like a beautiful, expensive ceramic

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<v Speaker 3>urn and she's selling grammar on the black market.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I have absolutely no idea. But that is

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty cooked revenge story for cheating. I understand that

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<v Speaker 2>cheating often, when you find out that it has been

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<v Speaker 2>done to you, you want to enact some sort of revenge.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to think that most of us are

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<v Speaker 2>above it, but like often there is something.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a pretty low blow. I've got a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of respect for it. Do she take it if she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use it to blackmail?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you've got to take something that has value,

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<v Speaker 4>and what wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do to get your grandmother?

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think it's blackmail. I think she's just

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<v Speaker 3>taking it to hurt him. I think it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's why you take something when you break up,

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<v Speaker 3>like a cruel, Like what's so important to either you

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<v Speaker 3>that you want to keep it or so important to

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<v Speaker 3>that person that you want to like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>she's blackmailing him, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you take it? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Let trying to use it as like a bargaining chip,

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<v Speaker 2>but bargaining for what? That's my point, Go back and

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<v Speaker 2>uncheat on me, like you cut. There's no there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>that you can get back with that sort of bargain.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's like, I'll give you Grandma back if I

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<v Speaker 1>can keep the dog. She's put herself in a position.

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<v Speaker 4>I've said she I don't even know if it was she.

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<v Speaker 4>She's just put herself in a position of power, is

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<v Speaker 4>all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that I would do the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a bold move. It's a power.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she's done it as a bargaining chip.

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<v Speaker 2>The way that I kind of interpret this is that

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<v Speaker 2>she's taken it from his house without him knowing for

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<v Speaker 2>sure that it's her. So she's stolen it so that

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<v Speaker 2>when he does discover that Grandma's gone, he feels upset

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll be like, hey, what happened did you take this?

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<v Speaker 2>And she's gonna be like, you're crazy, No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so that he doesn't get to have that moment

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't get to like, I think she's done it

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<v Speaker 2>to enact hurt on him, not because she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>bargain with.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, which I think is pretty fucking cruel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I did ask some of you guys, like have

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<v Speaker 3>you ever broken up or been broken up with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you take?

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<v Speaker 3>They're pretty funny. I took all the herbs and spices

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<v Speaker 3>from the pantry. They take so long to accumulate, so

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<v Speaker 3>sucked it. I took all the top of wear lids,

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<v Speaker 3>but not the container, just so that they can't put

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<v Speaker 3>anything in.

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<v Speaker 1>I took my ex's lawn. What do you mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's AstroTurf or like a lawn, the lawn.

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<v Speaker 3>He cared so much about his lawn that she went

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<v Speaker 3>and dug up the lawn with a shovel.

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<v Speaker 1>That fuck, yes, good good.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you just imagine I'm gonna fucking show you two

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<v Speaker 3>weeks later, you're still digging up, but I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 3>me get there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because lawn is something that if you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>good lawn, you were proud of that lawn. Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. I understand that ain't no matter Scott's fertilizer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's bringing that back to life.

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<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of like I took his birth certificate,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like what sort of rung and bell I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that's something you would do because you've broken into

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<v Speaker 3>houses before and forged signatures, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you guys about how I forged my ex's signature.

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<v Speaker 2>So because because and I know that this comes up,

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<v Speaker 2>this comes up every time we talk about ex revenge

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<v Speaker 2>and cheating stories training new listeners. It's a very I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you a quick quick overview. Found out my partner

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<v Speaker 2>was cheating on me. We've been together for quite a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had booked us flights to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Philippines together for my friend's wedding, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd paid for it, I'd booked it. We were going

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<v Speaker 1>Sabu Air.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why that's important is because Sabu Air are

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<v Speaker 2>fucking great because most airlines don't let you change flights

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<v Speaker 2>into other people's names.

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<v Speaker 1>You just like you can't transfer flights anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Broke up with him. I wanted to take my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>Kaya to the wedding with me. I contacted Sabou and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, well, you need to have his passport

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<v Speaker 2>and a signature. So I contacted him and told him

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't come to the wedding, and he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not signing that we're going to get back together.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so adamant that we were going to get

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<v Speaker 2>back together, even though he was the one who cheated

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<v Speaker 2>on me, and I was filthy angry at him. So

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<v Speaker 2>I snuck into his house, took a photo of his passport,

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<v Speaker 2>forged his signature, and I went to the Philippines with

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<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a great time. But Laura, imagine if you had

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<v Speaker 1>his grandma in an urn. And I also took his

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<v Speaker 1>nad up.

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<v Speaker 4>But imagine if you say you will sign this document

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<v Speaker 4>because that is the only way you're getting grandma by totally.

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<v Speaker 2>The only other crazy thing I did, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>to the same guy when he cheated on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Another time was I took his phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I threw it off the balcony and that landed several

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<v Speaker 2>stories down at a pool.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, get to be this viny.

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<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to again. I watched you in new movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to be in that kind of a breakup,

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<v Speaker 3>which is this is toxic in itself. But I thought

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<v Speaker 3>if I ever was gonna have a breakup like you'd

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<v Speaker 3>go hard and you do it properly. And I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be on like the second story of a building

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<v Speaker 3>and he's on the grass on the lawn and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>throwing down his clothes over the balcony and throwing That's

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<v Speaker 3>what I kind of break up I envisioned for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I thought I was deserving of farm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well never did.

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<v Speaker 2>So not to like repeat more stories about my girlfriend Kaya,

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<v Speaker 2>but the reason why we I mean, we've been the

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<v Speaker 2>best of friends for like twelve years now, but one

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<v Speaker 2>of our bonding moments was she I hope I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>this story right, because she'll hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>And be like, you fuck she maybe just don't name her.

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<v Speaker 1>She thought she got cheated on hers so long ago

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<v Speaker 1>that now it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>She thought she got cheated on and so she keeped

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<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend's car, but then found out he didn't actually cheat.

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<v Speaker 1>And did he did she tell him he knew she

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<v Speaker 1>like went real crazy in Keaty's car. And does she

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<v Speaker 1>fix her? I don't know, she was young. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell a story like that, not to the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of defamation. Yes, she did fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>She came for all of.

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<v Speaker 1>The refairs and it was not kaya, it was Plaire.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been more than ten years. Statutory of dec whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got.

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<v Speaker 2>Limitations, which doesn't exists with the facts that you can

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<v Speaker 2>do any illegal manuver you want, and the second you

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<v Speaker 2>hit ten years you're allowed to talk about it because

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<v Speaker 2>they can't touch you. I'm like, that's not statutory limitations

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<v Speaker 2>except murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently that one that doesn't flyff.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing does if breaking into still has a limit, like,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't just go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Satutary limitations. It didn't happen. It was ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a new person now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when you write something really offensive on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet from ten years ago and you go, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a new person, they say, And I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 4>Backed by science, this is that every cell in your body

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<v Speaker 4>is replaced in a seven year cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't even her who did it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the old her, seven year ago her.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one person just wrote in now four of

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<v Speaker 1>his left shoes. That's good, that's good. Yeah, oh man.

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<v Speaker 2>We love these sending your revenge stories because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that there is more of them, great cheating revenges. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time for vibes and unsubscribes Kita, you can go first,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a click one for me today. It is

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<v Speaker 4>an app and it is called sim Pull Interval Timer.

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<v Speaker 4>So it says sit so like sit, but it's all

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<v Speaker 4>in capitals and it is an app that is completely free.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a paid version, but I've been using the

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<v Speaker 4>free version for like twelve years now, and it's for

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<v Speaker 4>anyone who whether you're at the gym or maybe you're

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<v Speaker 4>doing like a home workout, and you know when you

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<v Speaker 4>want to do interval training of like I want to

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<v Speaker 4>do a minute of squats with like fifteen seconds in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle, and then I want to do a minute

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<v Speaker 4>of push ups and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>To barter, it's called debatera training. Interesting, yeah, that's also

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<v Speaker 1>it's called hit training. I think that that's Liker. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all the stival training.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, anyway, this app it's blue and it's got zero

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<v Speaker 4>zero zero four on the app label. It enables you

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<v Speaker 4>to adjust the number of sets, the action and the break.

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<v Speaker 1>So to explain that, I'll give you the sets that

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>So I set it to have eight sets of a

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<v Speaker 4>minute of action with fifteen seconds of break, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you just hit down the bottom and it will come

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<v Speaker 4>up with the total time that it will take you,

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<v Speaker 4>which for me was nine minutes and forty five seconds,

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<v Speaker 4>and you hit let's go. And what I real about

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<v Speaker 4>this one not only is it free, which I think

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<v Speaker 4>is great, but you can listen to other things at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time. So a lot of people I like

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<v Speaker 4>to listen to podcasts, a lot of people like to

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<v Speaker 4>listen to music, and some apps that are kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like this don't allow you to have other apps going

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, which.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume would be really frustrating. I just simply wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>use it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the little beeps just come through on top of

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<v Speaker 4>what you're actually listening to, so it doesn't make it pause,

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<v Speaker 4>which would annoy me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's called SIT or Simple Interval Trainer, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get into any type of interval training,

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<v Speaker 1>I really recommend it give it a go because it's free,

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<v Speaker 1>so it won't cost you anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing vibe for the week is it's MC beauty, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know I vibe MC beauty a lot, but genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the only makeup I wear at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so good. Now I am not a contour Galley.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do it well and I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. And brit will attest to this because

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<v Speaker 2>once she was like, are you contouring the end of

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<v Speaker 2>your nose?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I don't know people do that. No,

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<v Speaker 3>you're just aggressive with it. Yeah, no, you were just aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>You were sort of doing it, but it was just

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<v Speaker 3>a bit wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, it's the MC Beauty Instant Contor Beauty wand

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<v Speaker 2>I use the medium to dark because I think the

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<v Speaker 2>light to medium is probably not quite dark enough, if

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<v Speaker 2>that gives you some sort of reference point. It's seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>dollars forty, like, it's so well priced, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>amazing if you are not someone who is very good

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<v Speaker 2>at contor. It is a really nice color. It blends

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<v Speaker 2>really really well into your foundation. And I think I

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<v Speaker 2>like it better than just a normal bronzeer because it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not glittery.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you show me what it looks like?

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<v Speaker 2>It's this one. I think these are the Charlotte Tilbury dupes. Right, yeah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte Tilbury. Yeah sorry, I'm sure yours is very good too,

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<v Speaker 2>but I ain't seventeen dollars forty so the only.

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<v Speaker 1>Good that's a good stick.

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<v Speaker 2>My only grite that I have about this is that

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<v Speaker 2>unless you relock the tip, it leaks, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be someone who's very good at like opening and

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<v Speaker 2>unlocking every time you use it, as well as taking

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<v Speaker 2>the cap off. So that would be my one recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>around product development and packaging development. But the actual contents

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<v Speaker 2>and product self is so worth checking a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>them in your cart when you're at Big w or

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<v Speaker 2>Coals or wherever you get stuff from.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that and also your contouring looks great. Thanks bag

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<v Speaker 3>from here with lit lights. That was weird was thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much? So cont so fresh. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>my vibe this Week is a documentary on Netflix. It's

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<v Speaker 3>currently in the top ten somewhere trending. It's called Buy

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<v Speaker 3>Now The Shopping Conspiracy. It is brilliant. It's a very

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<v Speaker 3>different documentary the way it's filmed. It's got some like

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<v Speaker 3>unusual voiceovers, there's a bit of AI, a lot of CGI,

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<v Speaker 3>and what it's about is there's a few different angles,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's literally about the mass production of produce, whether

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<v Speaker 3>that's food, whether that is clothing. It's a big look

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<v Speaker 3>at fast fashion and it's lifting the curtains on the

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<v Speaker 3>techniques and tactics that a lot of big brands and

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<v Speaker 3>little brands, but the big brands like they focus on

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<v Speaker 3>people like added as for example, the tactics that they

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<v Speaker 3>use to keep you buying and what goes on behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes in those companies that's fed down right from

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<v Speaker 3>the boss, not only just to get you buying, but

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<v Speaker 3>then it makes this different journey on the documentary. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it shows you, Okay, this is why you're

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<v Speaker 3>buying so much produce, and then it takes you on

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<v Speaker 3>this other journey and this is why it's so bad,

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<v Speaker 3>and it forecasts into the future and shows you just

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<v Speaker 3>the extent of the damage that we're doing, how much

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<v Speaker 3>we're lied to about what is actually recycled and what

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<v Speaker 3>like yeah I think yeah, things like laptops. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, if you bring your laptop back in, we

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<v Speaker 3>will make sure that it's destroyed properly.

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<v Speaker 1>We will make sure that all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Parts go to the right place, that the batteries, because

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<v Speaker 3>we all know about lifting batteries and the damage to

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They go like.

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<v Speaker 3>Undercover and find out what really happens to them and

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<v Speaker 3>then it's so dangerous. They are not being like the

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<v Speaker 3>things that we think are being recycled are not being recycled.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched this after your recommendation, Britt, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>especially now obviously we're in the thick of Black Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I found it as someone who runs retail businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>I found it deeply fascinating. I've only seen the first

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<v Speaker 2>half of it, but something that I think I really

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<v Speaker 2>took away from it is when you think about your big,

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<v Speaker 2>fast fashion moving brands like.

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<v Speaker 3>She is the worst on the documentary, Sheen has the

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<v Speaker 3>highest mass production.

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<v Speaker 1>I never know how to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Sheen, Zara, H and M ten years ago, when

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<v Speaker 2>I fifteen years ago, like when I started Tony May,

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<v Speaker 2>there used to be seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>There used to be spring, summer, winter, fashion. That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you had your your summer fashion label launch, you

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<v Speaker 2>had your winter fashion label.

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<v Speaker 1>Launch, three drops Mac, and that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Those launchers were so substantial and robust in how you

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<v Speaker 2>campaigned them that the products themselves would sustain you throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the whole year. Because of online shopping and because of

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<v Speaker 2>places like Zara, h ANDM and Sheen, Sheen makes one

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<v Speaker 2>point three million different new designs every single year, like

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<v Speaker 2>products specifically like new tops, new pants, knew everything, new

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<v Speaker 2>products every.

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<v Speaker 1>Year and mass produces each product.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the thing that's fascinating now is that every

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<v Speaker 2>brand and it's changed how small brands function as well,

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<v Speaker 2>are expected to continuously bring out new drops. We as

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<v Speaker 2>a small business can't keep up with the big businesses either,

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<v Speaker 2>But it all talks about how we are being marketed to.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a sign around how we are a consumers

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<v Speaker 2>society now, and it's the dopamine hits of buying. But

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<v Speaker 2>then what happens with those products once you've purchased them,

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<v Speaker 2>and what happens once you go, Okay, I've worn that

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<v Speaker 2>shirt four times now I don't want it anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>you think you're going to give it to good will,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, where does it actually end up? It is

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fascinating, so so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>They have whistleblowers from like added as Apple, Amazon, people

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<v Speaker 3>that were working there for like ten fifteen years, people

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<v Speaker 3>that were the head of the game that literally walked

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<v Speaker 3>away and were like, I cannot consciously contribute to this.

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<v Speaker 3>The part that really made me upset and I was

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<v Speaker 3>so shocked about were there were a few whistleblowers that

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<v Speaker 3>were just staffed, not CEOs, that came forward and spoke

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<v Speaker 3>about the way that their company was run. They were

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<v Speaker 3>always instructed to go and throw their products out once

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<v Speaker 3>they had needed expiry date. Now these are great products.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking shampoos and conditioners, like liquids. Then there was

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<v Speaker 3>another one that was food, so bakery kind of food.

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<v Speaker 3>And what was happening is there were hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of products being thrown out in the back perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 3>You see the products. You see the girls tip the

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<v Speaker 3>bags out of full products. Homeless people were going to

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<v Speaker 3>get the food to eat it because it's great food.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were taking like the shampoos and conditioners and

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<v Speaker 3>soaps and stuff because they're being thrown away. And the

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<v Speaker 3>company was then instructed all of their staff, we don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be known as a homeless brand destroyer, so

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<v Speaker 3>you will now tip everything out before you throw it

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<v Speaker 3>out so that they can't use it. And they had

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<v Speaker 3>to pour water on all of their baked goods so

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<v Speaker 3>that they couldn't eat their food.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also the same for designer fashion labels like

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<v Speaker 2>your Burberry, your Dodge and Gabana your Louis Vuitton. They

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<v Speaker 2>slash their goods and put them into landfill because they

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<v Speaker 2>do not want to sell them at a reduced price

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<v Speaker 2>because then people will wait for them to go and sale.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other part of it is they will not

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<v Speaker 2>give their goods to charity because they don't want people

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<v Speaker 2>from low socio economic households wearing them, because they want

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<v Speaker 2>it to be a high end design arrange. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a fascinating conversation. I actually think that there is way

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<v Speaker 2>more to this which we would unpack on an interview episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a really wonderful woman in mind for this.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is by now the shopping conspiracy on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot recommend it highly enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I reckon watch it and then we can have

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger like everyone watch it. We can have a

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<v Speaker 2>big conversation about it. Question at number one, my parents

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<v Speaker 2>gave more money to my sibling than what they have

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<v Speaker 2>given to me. A couple of years ago, my sister

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<v Speaker 2>got married and my parents gave her a substantial monetary

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<v Speaker 2>gift for her wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a third of the amount.

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<v Speaker 2>For my wedding the year before, but were still so

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for anything. Now, a few months after their wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to buy a house and were loaned the

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<v Speaker 2>entire deposit from my parents to pay back. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years on, they have not paid a cent back,

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<v Speaker 2>and my parents haven't asked for it either. I have

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<v Speaker 2>received approximately fifty thousand dollars less than them over the

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<v Speaker 2>past three years, and now that there's been no repayments

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<v Speaker 2>or discussion about this, I'm starting to become a bit bitter.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem to be living a comfortable life and can

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<v Speaker 2>certainly afford.

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<v Speaker 1>To do more than my parents can.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm frustrated at both my sibling and my parents, but

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<v Speaker 2>don't want this to seem like I am only chasing money.

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<v Speaker 2>I want there to be accountability. How would you handle

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<v Speaker 2>this with your own family members?

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<v Speaker 1>Dun, dun, dun No, Nona. This is a tough one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm probably not the best person to answer this because

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<v Speaker 3>I have different views on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I have the view that your parents don't owe you anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I truly believe that when you become an adult, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not up to your parents to be giving you the

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<v Speaker 3>house deposit and to be setting you up like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, and there'll be people that completely disagree with this,

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to use my family as an example.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one of four kids, and my parents always made

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<v Speaker 3>sure we had all of what we needed to do

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<v Speaker 3>whatever we needed to do in terms of education. So

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<v Speaker 3>if we it was never pressure. But if we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to go to university, that was a choice. They would

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<v Speaker 3>put us through university to get that education. They brought

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<v Speaker 3>us all of our first cars, like because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're seventeen eighteen when you get your license, so you

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<v Speaker 3>don't really have that much money. But then when we

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<v Speaker 3>were out in the real world and we had our

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<v Speaker 3>degrees or we had our jobs and we were earning money,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're an adult now with a full time income.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it up to your parents to be giving

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<v Speaker 3>you anything else. I'm also in that understanding. If my

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<v Speaker 3>parents pass away, I don't want inheritance. My parents will

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<v Speaker 3>work so hard hope that they spend every dollar on

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<v Speaker 3>living the best life that they have. So I'm the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong person to ask for this because I would never

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<v Speaker 3>ask my parents for money and I never ever have.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think when I read this question from what

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<v Speaker 3>you've said, I'd be probably more upset at my sister

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<v Speaker 3>because it sounds like you've said your sister's doing better

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<v Speaker 3>than your parents, she's in a better position, so I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be more upset that she's has gone to your parents

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<v Speaker 3>to say, hey, give me money, when like, why should

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, why should they have to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if your sister's better off. I'd be having a

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with my sister before my parents. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>understand why you're feeling bitter, because at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, even if you wouldn't have been in that

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<v Speaker 3>position and you wouldn't have gone and asked for that money,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand where you're like, Wow, one sibling is getting

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<v Speaker 3>a real leg up in life like that would have

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<v Speaker 3>been nice if I also had that, But it just

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like you've probably got a bit more tacked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do as I agree, And I also think

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we can equate money to love, especially when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes from our parents. You know, if my parents did

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<v Speaker 2>this for one sibling and haven't done it for me,

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<v Speaker 2>then it must mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That they love them more than they love me.

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<v Speaker 2>Things are not always fifty to fifty in life like,

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<v Speaker 2>things are not always equitable in that way, and your

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<v Speaker 2>parents may not have even really thought it through in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like that you might be feeling as though

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<v Speaker 2>you were left out or feeling as though that there

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<v Speaker 2>was an inequality there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think it's great in the money, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for you it feels as though it's a

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<v Speaker 2>symbol of how much they maybe care about you verse

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<v Speaker 2>how much they care about your sister, and how much

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>they're investing in you versu investing in your sister. I

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<v Speaker 2>think if it's something that's really really upsetting you and

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<v Speaker 2>you are becoming bitter by it and you are becoming resentful,

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<v Speaker 2>then a conversation with your parents and I know you,

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<v Speaker 2>brit you said it's more anger towards the sister, but well, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Parents wouldn't be giving it if the sister wasn't asking

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<v Speaker 3>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, absolutely, the parents wouldn't be giving it.

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<v Speaker 2>But also the parents maybe are just hoping and waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for the sister to pay back, you know, like hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that she might come to that or make that offer

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<v Speaker 2>of her own volition rather than getting to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where the parents have to ask for it back. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it could be a really honest conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with your parents to be like, hey, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>this to you because I want money from you.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want any more money from you at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that there is a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>discrepancy between what you've given to Sarah and what you've

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 2>given to me, but I just think that there should

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>be some responsibility from Sarah to pay it back. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you are being so kind and so accommodating,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel frustrated because I feel like she's taking

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of you. I don't know whether you feel the same.

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<v Speaker 2>And then have that conversation with your parents and allow

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<v Speaker 2>them to process it and to decide whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do anything about it. Because the big

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<v Speaker 2>thing is is unless you really do actually want that

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars, and then that's a whole different conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not for you to worry about. It's not for

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 2>you to fight for your parents to get this equality.

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>If your parents are okay, they're financially stable, even if

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<v Speaker 2>they're not doing as well as your sister, they are

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>grown adults who have made that decision to help out

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>your sister in a way. And I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>we are necessarily entitled to our parents income or to

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>our parent's money yeah, we're definitely not.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other thing was in relation to the wedding

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<v Speaker 3>you said, like when you got married aye or two before,

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<v Speaker 3>you got a third of the amount that she then

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple of years later.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also the chance that your parents have gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Through different highs and lows in their finances as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And we all know that when we're in a high,

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<v Speaker 3>you are more generous, you have more money to give,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 3>you have more money, disposable money to do things with,

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and then you'll hit your low and of course you

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 3>don't have as much money to give. So I mean,

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 3>we've all been every single individual, all of us go

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 3>through that, the cost of living. There's different jobs. You

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 3>might have got the sack, you might have a high

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 3>paying job. There are so many different reasons. But there's

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 3>a big chance that that could be it too. Like

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Laura said at the start, because you got less for

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<v Speaker 3>your wedding doesn't mean they love you less.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about my own family, for example, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope I don't overstep, and I hope no one for

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>my family hears this and cares that I'm saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like my mum has given more money to my

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>brother over the years. That is just because we have

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 2>as children, we were in financially different positions. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot younger than I was. I grew up quicker,

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I moved out of home quicker, I got jobs, and

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<v Speaker 2>I moved into like my professions faster than he did.

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<v Speaker 3>Times were tougher when you were the child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And also like I think he asked for it

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>as well, and so when you ask, you often get.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>And maybe you're not the child or the sibling in

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 2>that environment that asks for things, and so because you're

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 2>not asking for it, you're not getting it. I don't

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>think that it means that they love you any different.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I just think that it means that they are financially

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<v Speaker 2>potentially being like, Okay, well this person's asking for XYZ,

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna give it to them because they've made

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 2>it known that they need it, whereas like you haven't,

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and therefore if you don't ask, you don't get kind

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>of situation. Obviously that might not be the case. Your

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>mum might love your sister more like. That is also

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>a possibility. It does happen. It's fucked if that's a reality.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>What are you going to gain from bringing that up?

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>What are you going to gain from sitting down with

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>your parents and being like, hey, Mum, you love my

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>sister fifty thousand dollars more than you love me. Like

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 2>that's an awkward conversation to have it as an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think it's necessary.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 3>You literally say, how would you handle this with your

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 3>family members? I think it's really important that you have

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 3>this conversation with one of them in some capacity, because

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 3>you've said, I'm getting bitter and money builds so much resentment.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Money is the core of so many issues. Unfortunately, I

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 3>wish it wasn't, but you hear it all the time.

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I would be going to talk to.

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<v Speaker 3>Your sister first, and it doesn't have to be aggressive,

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 3>but it could just be like, question, do you plan

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<v Speaker 3>on paying mom and dad back any money? I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>worried about them, Like maybe it's like I just want

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 3>to make sure they're all set up for their retirement,

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 3>and I know they're never going to ask you for

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 3>it back, so you know, should you set up a plan.

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I would put it in that sense, like, hey, let's

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 3>try and look after mom and dad as they move

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 3>towards retirement. Let's try and get that money back in

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 3>so that they can be earning their interest. I'd have

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 3>a conversation that way, and then it's another conversation if

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 3>she's like, I'm not fucking paying that back like that,

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 3>that's when you have to make a decision if you

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 3>want to go and speak to your parents or not,

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 3>like how much is actually affecting you. But then you

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 3>have to weigh up is the level of bitterness that

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 3>you feel now, is that going to become ten times

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 3>worse only situation and the resentment if you have that

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 3>conversation with your parents, is that going to blow up

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>astronomically within your family dynamic. So that's what you've got

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 3>to weigh up. You know, benefit exceeds risk. I have

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 3>a bit of a different take on this.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I actually think it's likely that you may have felt

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 4>like you weren't the favorite child for your whole life,

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 4>and this is maybe one of the first things that

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 4>you can actually measure as a discrepancy. Yeah, you know,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 4>it's really hard to measure love. It's not hard to

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 4>measure money. And so if you have these things that

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you've grown up kind of being like, oh,

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, I always feel as though my sibling got

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 4>more attention, more.

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Love, They got more opportunities.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 4>To do things like I just always felt as though

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 4>they were preferred.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You now have a way to literally put a number

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to that. Yeah, and that's very true.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 4>That's where the bitterness is likely coming from. It probably

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 4>actually doesn't have much to do with the money, because

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 4>it sounds as though you're fine financially as well, Like

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it doesn't sound as though you're kind

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 4>of counting your pennies. I kind of see this more

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 4>as a it's a very key indicator that you have

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 4>felt as though you were always second place.

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>But in that and if that is the case, then

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>that's a very different conversation because sitting down and having

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>a chat with your family about, hey, you know, Sarah

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>owes this much money and she needs to start paying

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>it back because I feel as though there's a discrepancy here.

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether or not having that conversation solely

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>about money is going to resolve these feelings. I think

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>these feelings will stay regardless of whether she starts paying

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>it back or not.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>But I think we're also looking a bit deep into this.

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it all has to go back to

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 3>you being felt like you weren't as loved as a child.

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 3>There is also a chance that maybe your parents look

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 3>at you, and this is a question you ask yourself.

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're more independent, or maybe you're more financially stable

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 3>than your sibling. Maybe your parents feel like you need

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 3>less help. So that is a huge, huge thing to

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 3>ask yourself.

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>We can't answer that.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, the only thing that I want to

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>add on this because I think we've kind of split

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 2>it as many ways as we can. The reason why

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I think and I do come back to this idea

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>of like, it's not really your place. You shouldn't have

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the entitlement to be asking these questions because it's not

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 2>your money, is that it's very clear that your parents

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>have been incredibly generous to both of you.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>You said that they.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Gave you money for your wedding and that they also

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>paid for her entire home loan deposit, but that the

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>discrepancy between the money that they've given you is fifty k.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>If that's fifty thousand discrepancy plus they also paid for

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 2>your sister's home loan, and the discrepancy is still only

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty k, Like, that's a lot of a lot of money.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>And I mean not everybody gets that from their parents

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>at all, you know, any money to help for a

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>home loan, or any money that comes for a wedding gift.

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>So I think maybe have a think about what your parents'

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>generosity has been and whether it's a case of this

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>resentment going more towards your sister and her asking if

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>you haven't been the asker in your family dynamic. I

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 2>think you have to be very careful with how you

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>handle this, because having relationship dynamics be so affected by

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>money is a really sad place to get.

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 3>To Question two. I'm in a relationship of almost nine years.

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 3>We're engaged. He's the most amazing person ever, ticks all

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 3>the boxes, but the sexual attraction and lust has just

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 3>gone for me. I'm starting to have feelings for someone else,

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 3>which is controlling a lot of my emotions at the

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 3>moment and is clouding my judgment. My fiance and I

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>have just bought a house and we have an eleven

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 3>month old puppy. His parents have gone guarantees for our

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 3>place as well. I feel like I'm stuck in between

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 3>a rock and a hard place with which way I

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>go about it. Do I stay with my current fiance

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 3>because he's the sweetest guy who would do anything for me.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Or do I.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Follow my head and my heart and take a chance

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 3>on this other person, or maybe do I just try

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 3>and be single for a while, I mean my late

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean my late twenties, and just scared I might

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>be stuck in a mentality that I have a lot

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 3>to lose, but also might not be in love anymore.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Go to a psychic, don't do what we did, Look

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>at us thriving.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh la la, la la la.

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>My very first thought is you should not be getting

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 2>married to someone where you have so many doubts, Like

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 2>when the doubts are that prevalent. If you feel as

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 2>though you're not in love with him anymore, then I think,

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>whatever you do, you need to take some time to

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>figure this out before you go ahead with a marriage,

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 2>because that's a really bad place to start a marriage,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>from feeling as though you're not in love with the

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>person that you're getting married to.

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Could it be cold feet? Maybe? Could you have a

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>case of the grass is greener? Maybe? Could it be

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>that you need to be single for a bit?

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe like a lot of Maybe it's but like it's

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>almost impossible to know what the answer to this is.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 2>But the one answer to this is, don't marry someone

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>unless you feel absolutely certain that you're making a decision

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 2>that is a decision that you're going into with excitement

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and love and the idea of building a future together.

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't marry someone because you're worried about what you know,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.479
<v Speaker 2>the time that you've wasted, or like the investment in them,

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>or what else there might be. Like, that's a really

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>really bad place to go into a marriage with. I

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 2>think a really bad mindset.

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Also, you can break up with someone when you have

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 3>a house and a puppy, Like, that's not what should

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 3>be tying you to someone. I've broken up with someone

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 3>when I've had a house with him. I've broken up

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>with someone when I had I mean, Jordan and I

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 3>broke up when Delilah was we.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Got her together.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Delilah was like a baby too, literally two months old

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:10.760
<v Speaker 3>or something.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>But let me, I do want to validate this. Sometimes

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not about breaking up with the person right. Sometimes

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>it's about breaking up with the life that you've created

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and the identity that you've created together. You might know

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 2>that you're not in love with that person anymore, but

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you might love your life. You might love the comfort,

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the friendships, the way that your life. You know the

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>routine of your life, and that is a really fucking

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>hard thing to break up with.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, but I don't think that's where she

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>is personally. She literally I think it's more about her

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 3>feeling stuck.

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.439
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I feel stuck. We have his puppy, his.

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Parents have gone garantur in our house. You go on

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 3>to say you have no sexual attraction, the lust is gone,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 3>you have feelings for someone else. And the key part

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 3>here is I'm just going to read it again. Do

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I stay with my current fiance because he's the sweetest guy,

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 3>he would do anything for me, or follow my head

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.760
<v Speaker 3>and heart and take a chance on this other person.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Your head and your heart is elsewhere, so it's not one.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 3>It's not like your head is telling you to stay

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 3>and your heart's telling you to go, or vice versa.

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 3>You said your head and your heart is elsewhere. I

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>would be thinking long and hard about getting married. What

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 3>I will say is, do not leave this relationship for

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>this person that you're lusting over, because that will end

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 3>in a ship fire. You have to leave because your

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 3>relationship isn't right. Not because you think there could be

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>someone else that you could have a fling with. You've

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 3>never been with this person, you have a crush on him,

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 3>you have feelings for him because maybe you don't have

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 3>those feelings at home, but like it will end fucking

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 3>badly if you leave your relationship for this crush.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever agreed with you more strongly. Yes,

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you. To continue on?

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 3>He's really right, I'll disagree, but no, I yes, but

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 3>to continue on. You're in your late twenties and you

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 3>feel like you're stuck in this mentality where you have.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot to lose.

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 3>We really get stuck on age, I think you know.

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we're like I don't I think I'll find anyone else,

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 3>and I spend all this time sunk cost, fallacy, all

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 3>that stuff, Like you know, I'm nearly thirty. Do I

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>really want to start again? This guy treats me so well.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you you could be with the most

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 3>perfect person that ticks every single box and they treat

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 3>you amazingly and you will have a wonderful life. They

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 3>will never cheat on you. But that doesn't mean they're

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.879
<v Speaker 3>the right person, and it doesn't necessarily mean that you're

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 3>penguin and that you're head over heels in love. Like

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 3>you can have two people on paper that are wonderful.

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't mean you have to stay with that person,

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't mean you're not going to find it again.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 3>I just worry for him as well in a way,

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 3>for both of you. But if you're not in love

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 3>with him in that way and you're thinking you shouldn't

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 3>be getting married and you're having feelings for someone else,

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it would be really selfish to continue in

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 3>that marriage because it doesn't sound like it's going to

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 3>end well.

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>But you need to do some.

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Very deep introspective thinking. Is this just a moment, Has

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 3>this feeling been there? Is it fleeting?

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Has it been there for like two months since you

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 3>met him? Or have you been feeling this way for

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 3>three years of your nine year relationships?

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's a really clear decater, right. I

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 2>think it's so important to be honest with yourself. Did

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you only lose the last and lose the excitement in

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 2>your relationship when something shiny came along, like when you

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>started to feel those feelings for someone else, because you

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 2>know you've been together for nine years.

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>It is kind of normal in.

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Some ways to have a change in your relationship where

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 2>you don't have as much sexual desire, you don't have

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 2>as much loss you'd like. Those things are going to

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>weigh throughout a long term relationship, and the difference is

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 2>whether you have the mentality or the drive to work

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>on getting it back right. Like, you can get those

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 2>things back in a relationship. They don't have to be

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>dead gone left your body. I'd never want to fuck

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 2>my husband again. Like, you can work on it, and

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you can regain that intimacy, sexual attraction, all of those

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 2>things for your partner. But the thing is is really

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>being honest with yourself as to whether that has been

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 2>impacted by the fantasy of what you have with someone else,

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>by the idea and the thoughts and everything else that

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 2>you have created around what could be with someone else.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to be careful because we the last thing

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 2>we ever want to say is like break up when

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 2>you've been in a relationship for nine years, because the

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 2>grass is not always greener.

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it is, but it's not always.

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it is, but sometimes you can take for granted

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 2>an incredible person who treats you so well, who gives

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 2>you all of the stability and the comfort because you've

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 2>stopped putting work on your relationship. You stop working on it,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you stop caring about their feelings, their needs, your needs,

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 2>like all of that, and you've prioritized other things, and

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 2>so your life has just even though you cohabitate, you've

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of just drifted into different forks in the road.

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I really want you to and if I was in

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>this position, the thing that I think I would do

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 2>for myself, and I think about my relationship with Matt,

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 2>if something like this ever happened, I would stop all

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 2>contact with the other person for a while, because for

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>as long as you're entertaining that and you're seeing them

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 2>and there is this flirty thing going on, it's impossible

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 2>for you to actually gain clarity around whether you want

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to be in your relationship or not, because you've got

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 2>this very current and clear temptation that's screaming at you

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.240
<v Speaker 2>that something better could exist. So I would go, okay,

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.479
<v Speaker 2>park that figure out whether or not I can fix

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 2>things with my nine year relationship with someone who potentially

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a fucking great long term partner.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:20.760
<v Speaker 2>And if in a couple of months time or week's

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>time or whatever it is. You're like, actually, no, you

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>know what, I can't do this anymore.

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Then you leave.

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>But right now, the way that you've written this and

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 2>the way I'm reading it, you're leaving this for the

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 2>excitement of something.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Else, and you've just got to figure out I might

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 3>not be in love anymore. You've got to figure that out.

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 3>No one can tell you that. No one can tell

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 3>you if you're falling out of love and at what level.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>But I agree with Laura. Cut the external.

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Sources and the external temptations and really think about your relationship.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Even you don't necessarily have to end your relationship, but

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 3>you shouldn't be getting married while you feel like that.

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So maybe you can put the wedding off.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how far into the planning you are,

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 3>but you need some time to work it out. We

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 3>don't expect you, and you shouldn't expect yourself to wake

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 3>up and be like, that's it, dusty my hands, I'm done,

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 3>or I'm getting married.

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 2>But she said it, She said to herself, I'm starting

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>to have feelings for someone else, which is controlling a

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of my emotions at the moment, and it's.

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Clouding my judgment. Yeah, fucking cut it, like, cut that

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>out right now.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>That is to me is like you are you are

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 2>absolutely flirting with fire.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I just don't marry him, That's what I'm saying.

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just saying, like, if you're the like, don't

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 3>marry him, put it off, don't break up with him necessarily,

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 3>But don't go and sign those papers and put yourself

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and him and everyone through it. If you literally don't

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 3>know if you want to marry him, like you need

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 3>to be certain. It is such a huge commitment.

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Question three.

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I am a first time mum and my baby is

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 2>now ten months old. I have been really struggling with

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 2>connecting to my husband in the last six months or so.

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>He is a great dad and I love seeing him

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 2>with our son, but it feels like we've just completely

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>lost the spark. I don't feel special or wanted anymore.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't help that he injured himself pretty badly in

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 2>July and hasn't been able to carry his weight around

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the house. This has left me doing all the cooking

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>or the cleaning, or the barth, the bed with.

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>The baby, etc.

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 2>We live in a small rural town away from family,

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 2>so I don't have any help around the house as well,

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 2>which adds another layer of stress. Months ago, Laura mentioned

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 2>something about just getting through those early years when you

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 2>have a baby in terms of staying with your partner.

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.439
<v Speaker 2>She said, it gets a lot better once babies grow

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>up a bit. I would love to hear more about this,

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and I suppose my question is how can I try

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>to reconnect with my partner?

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, straight out of the gate. I don't think

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 3>your problem is that you have a little one. I

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 3>think your problem is that your partner is not pulling

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 3>his weight.

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's multiple parts of it.

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but of course, yes, one hundred percent. I don't

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 3>have kids.

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:37.879
<v Speaker 1>We know that.

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 3>But of course the pressure of having a child is

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 3>huge on a relationship, on you as an individual.

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>We know that you can get the baby blues. We

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>know post natal.

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Depression is a thing. We know that relationships suffer in

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 3>some capacity because there's someone else that needs your attention

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 3>and your love and your time. But those things are

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 3>made far more easy if you have a partner that

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 3>is also helping to can tribute. There are two parents,

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 3>the mother doesn't have to be the person that does

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 3>everything that in fact, it should be the opposite. You

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>are literally growing a human, Your hormones are changing, you

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 3>were fatigued. Your partner should be pulling his weight in

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 3>some capacity, but it feels like he's gone the other direction.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Unless your husband's injury is like a broken back and

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 3>he cannot move, there is always something that he can

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 3>do to help, Like I don't believe he cannot get

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.919
<v Speaker 3>up and put some formula in the microwave. I don't

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 3>believe he cannot order you some dinner, or cook you

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>a dinner, or pick his clothes up, or do a

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 3>load of washing, Like you have to be completely bedridden

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 3>to not be able to contribute in any capacity.

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Also, he injured himself pretty badly in July. Your baby's

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>ten months old and it's now November, so there has

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 2>been a lot of time in between. Obviously there's grace

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 2>for an injury. It's not as though your heartless bitch here.

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Like get up and get of course, ships him.

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I honestly, it was the most surprising to me how

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>much having kids changes your relationship. And I know people

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>to about it, and I think we were like a

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>small case of it, Like we were the lucky version.

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Because Matt is someone who is he takes feedback really well,

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and he tries really really hard, like he's a he's

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a really great dad, and he's a really good partner.

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 2>And you know, as much as I take the piss

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.280
<v Speaker 2>out of him on here, sometimes like I'm so deeply

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 2>grateful for the type of husband that he is, because

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 2>he's a fucking wonder man.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 3>I really wanted it. He really wanted to be a dad.

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>He desperately, and he's always said like he wants to

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 2>be the dad that he didn't have, you know, and

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.919
<v Speaker 2>he matches up and stands up to that plate every

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 2>single day, Which is why I really like when I

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 2>answer this question, I'm like, I have so much empathy

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>for it, because even though I had that version of

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a partner, there was still a period where it was

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 2>so fucking hard. And I remember, especially when like Marley

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>was really little and I had her strap to me,

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and then Lola was little, and he was off doing

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 2>dancing with stars and everything else, and I had these

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 2>two little babies and I was doing everything and we

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 2>had the biggest fight that we've ever had was when

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Lola was little and I came home and she just

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 2>screamed all day, right like it was a fucking nightmare,

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 2>she screamed all day. I hadn't slept and I was

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 2>running them around and I was still working as well,

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and he very patronizingly, was like, I know this is hard,

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you have no fucking idea how dancing.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you don't know how hard it is

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 2>because you're not here. You don't get it, you're not

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>doing it. And I think it's the for me. It

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 2>was the you can't possibly understand how hard this is

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 2>for me because.

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You are not doing it.

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>You are not walking in these shoes to actually fathom

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 2>how life changing this is for me. And that lasts

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 2>for a really long time, and it's really hard to

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:47.720
<v Speaker 2>go from like having only your partner to think about

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 2>like yourself, your work, your partner. You give them so

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>much attention, like you're so connected. You're like you're having

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>sex all the time, like you're so in love, and

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, you've got these other children

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and all these responsibilities and everything else that touches you out.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>And actually, interestingly, you also get a lot of love

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 2>from your kids, So there's parts of that emotional connection

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that you don't need from your partner as much anymore

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 2>because all of the buckets are topped up and you're

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>overstimulated all the time. All I want to say to

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:19.280
<v Speaker 2>you off the back of that is, it is absolutely

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 2>no surprise to me that you don't have desire or

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 2>lust for your partner right now, And it is absolutely

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 2>no surprise to me that you're struggling with connecting with him.

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.919
<v Speaker 2>And this is not your job to fix. You can't

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.439
<v Speaker 2>fix this on your own. He has to fix it too.

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 2>The only place that you can start is some really

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>honest conversations around why you feel the way that you feel,

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and how you've given as much grace that you can.

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Ten months is a really long time to be the

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>sole person to do all those things, and that if

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 2>he wants the connection, if he wants to be you know,

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>wants a wife who has sex with him and wants

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>all of that stuff, he needs to make you feel desired,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 2>and he needs to step up to the plate and

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>do the things that seem like they're not connected to

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 2>sex whatsoever. But trust me, if you see your husband cooking, cleaning,

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and taking care of the kids, you'll want to have

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.399
<v Speaker 2>sex with him again because you're carrying the full mental load.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we say it all the time off the

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.479
<v Speaker 3>back of our interview with Esther Perell where she said

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 3>that full play starts, you know, the second sex ends,

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 3>and full play is not just physical. Full play is

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 3>the way someone speaks to you, the things that they

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 3>do around the house, the little extra bits of tidbits

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 3>of love and affection that they give you in different ways.

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 3>So whether that is just like hey, baby, did the

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 3>washing for you, filled up petrol in your car, they

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 3>are all things that contribute to full play because it changes,

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 3>it can change your chemistry. I'm like, yeah, pump my

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 3>fucking tires, pop the times you can pump me like

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.399
<v Speaker 3>it's called chore play, choor play. Yeah, sounds like you've

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 3>been giving him a lot of grace and you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Done a lot on your own. So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can have that conversation. Not you can. You fucking have

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<v Speaker 1>to have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Relationship won't survive if you don't like you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>build so much resentment is disdain towards your partner and

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<v Speaker 3>the life that you will feel like he is making

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 3>you live that it will be detrimental to your relationship

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 3>and you should feel like you can have that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>if unless there's a reason in your relationship that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel like you can go to him and be

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<v Speaker 3>so open. But I would just say I need help. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I need help. That's the sentence complete.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing though, is, and I know I've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about this before, and I've said, like, obviously, when you

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<v Speaker 2>have little kids, it is the hardest it's ever going

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<v Speaker 2>to be, right, and then it gets easier as they

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<v Speaker 2>get older and as you kind of can reconnect back

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<v Speaker 2>to your partner, like everything gets easier. But it only

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<v Speaker 2>gets easier if you have a partner that shows up

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<v Speaker 2>and actually does some of the work as well. If

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<v Speaker 2>he continues like this, like if you're in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that there's just not any equality around it, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing all the kid all the housework, you're working all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, like you never get time off. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>change when they get older, and so the same issues continue.

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<v Speaker 2>The only reason why it gets easier as they age

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<v Speaker 2>is if you have a partner who steps up to

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<v Speaker 2>the plate and starts to take some of those responsibilities

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<v Speaker 2>off you. And so I really think that like this

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<v Speaker 2>is the time for that. But don't check out of

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship when you have a really little baby. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you're not now, but big, big conversations need to be had.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe not to relate it back to my relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with Matt, but it was a real turning point for

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<v Speaker 2>us when we sat down after the massive blow up

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<v Speaker 2>that we had.

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<v Speaker 1>And I explained him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I come home from work and I

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<v Speaker 2>have the kids, and when I don't have the kids,

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm asleep. I was like, I'm either working or I

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<v Speaker 2>have the children, or I'm doing something for this household,

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm asleep. I was like, when you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the kids, that's your time to go to the gym.

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 2>You get time to go. You went and had a

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<v Speaker 2>beer with the boys this afternoon. Like, when you don't

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 2>have the children, you get free time. And when I

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 2>don't have the children, there is no such thing as

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<v Speaker 2>me time. And that was like such a massive shift

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a real learning curve for both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it depends on how your partner responds

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<v Speaker 2>to feedback and responds to supporting you as to how

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be able to reconnect. Right if you

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<v Speaker 2>feel hurt, you'll feel more connected. If he's putting an effort,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll feel as though you have a partner who you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a team player with, but right now you're just

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything on your own. It's no wonder why you

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<v Speaker 2>feel so fucking resentful.

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