Speaker 1: A good pickup with Britt Hogley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2: Radio work, our windows done. That's my worldris in the dust.
Speaker 3: Only good zabs.
Speaker 4: Are all down.
Speaker 5: I don't much, but yeah, I know our big.
Speaker 2: Get and what I want.
Speaker 3: It don't matter where. This is the.
Speaker 4: Pickup, Hi, guys, it's the pickup with Brett Harkley and
Speaker 4: Laura Burn. And look, before we get into the show today,
Speaker 4: we do have something really important that we wanted to
Speaker 4: talk about. You guys might have heard the horrible news.
Speaker 4: There's a really devastating news story that's come out about
Speaker 4: a little toddler who has lost their life, A family
Speaker 4: who has lost their child today after being left in
Speaker 4: a car. And you know, I think it's it's so
Speaker 4: easy to not realize just how hot and how quickly
Speaker 4: cars can get, especially in these very extreme temperatures that
Speaker 4: we're having at the moment across the country.
Speaker 5: And you probably don't realize, but children's bodies heat up
Speaker 5: faster than adults. A few minutes in a car is
Speaker 5: too much. So this might seem like something like, yeah,
Speaker 5: of course we know that you don't leave children in
Speaker 5: the car, but evidently we do need to put those
Speaker 5: reminders out please remember this, do not ever leave your
Speaker 5: child in a car. So that is our reminder for
Speaker 5: the show. But we do have a big show coming
Speaker 5: up for you.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 5: We have the Maths relationship specialist John Aiken coming into studio,
Speaker 5: and boyd, do we have some questions for him?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, look, I love I love John, I
Speaker 4: love him, I do, and I love Maths, but I
Speaker 4: just have some questions as to how these people were
Speaker 4: paired together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put him on the spot.
Speaker 4: Now we are talking about the show that everyone is
Speaker 4: talking about, and I'm very sorry to my husband, but
Speaker 4: it's not I'm a celebrity.
Speaker 2: Get me out of here. We talk about that enough
Speaker 2: enough enough.
Speaker 4: It's the one that I'm missing out on at the
Speaker 4: moment that I would love to be watching Married at
Speaker 4: First Sight. I have watched every single season and we
Speaker 4: are currently on season twelve.
Speaker 5: But you've been keeping up. You've been at least keeping
Speaker 5: up with what's happening this year. Do you know what
Speaker 5: I'm trying to keep up? So I'm going to make
Speaker 5: an admission here. I have not been a Maths watcher
Speaker 5: in the last twelve seasons. I try, and it gives
Speaker 5: me wild anxiety. Like the absolute train wrecks on that show.
Speaker 5: I come the people, but sometimes the relationships themselves, the
Speaker 5: relationtimes the people. No, sometimes the people too, like sometimes
Speaker 5: I want to I'm all about love. We love love,
Speaker 5: but sometimes I want to throw my remote at the screen.
Speaker 5: But we are very honored to be in the presence
Speaker 5: of relationship Expert Royalty Maths Greatness, Maths Greatness.
Speaker 4: We have John Aiken here, relationship expert, also the man
Speaker 4: who is responsible for pairing some of these seemingly mismatchpairs together.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and it's great to be here. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: nice to be in studio with you both. It's season twelve,
Speaker 1: which is amazing because we didn't really see it happening
Speaker 1: in this way. You know, when you start a reality show,
Speaker 1: you're kind of not sure whether it'll hit or miss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just saying that the ratings are through the roof.
Speaker 3: For this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been monstrous, bigger than any of the episodes
Speaker 1: of series eleven last year. The dinner Party one that
Speaker 1: we had just recently, And it's hard to know what
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, there's a real first that I
Speaker 1: think people have for relationship shows, and this is kind
Speaker 1: of unique in that couples watch it to learn what
Speaker 1: not to do, but also singles watch it and go, oh,
Speaker 1: there are red flags. I think we need to avoid that.
Speaker 1: So it sort of covers both sort of groups. But
Speaker 1: then I think also there's this element of can strangers
Speaker 1: get a fairy tale when you match them up?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, Laura did, I'm living proof sometimes it does work,
Speaker 5: and I proof that it doesn't. But we're not going
Speaker 5: to go back and revisit that. So a question that
Speaker 5: I was just asking you off air and you said,
Speaker 5: you're happy to talk about it. How much of the casting?
Speaker 5: Because sometimes you're like brilliant. We look at people like
Speaker 5: Jules Robinson and cam like they were amazing, happy ending.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I look at it and I said, who put
Speaker 5: these two people together?
Speaker 2: But it was you? So how much of it is you?
Speaker 5: And how much of it is you know, the behind
Speaker 5: the scenes casting. Do you work together to find these couples?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so with the experts, we would look at them
Speaker 1: over a two month period. We zoom call them, we
Speaker 1: look at their background bios, we test them things like
Speaker 1: attachment theory and communication styles, values, their personality traits, and
Speaker 1: then we put them together and then it's really a
Speaker 1: combination of the matches that we throw up, but also
Speaker 1: the network and the production company, and like you could imagine,
Speaker 1: one of the great things with Maths is that it
Speaker 1: can be quite diverse. So we might have a great match,
Speaker 1: but we've got too many blonds on the show, so
Speaker 1: they might say, all right, well, let's look for a
Speaker 1: different looking couple, or we need different culture Italian, Lebanese, Greek,
Speaker 1: or we need a fifty something, so we can kind
Speaker 1: of go out and really get quite a broad range.
Speaker 1: But certainly the experts are heavily involved.
Speaker 4: I also think that that's what really sets it apart
Speaker 4: as a show, because as a viewer, there is always
Speaker 4: somebody who is reflected like you're reflected back in and
Speaker 4: I don't mean that like the craziness of it, but
Speaker 4: there's always someone who you could potentially relate to in
Speaker 4: that relationship dynamic, Whereas like when you look at shows
Speaker 4: like The Bachelor, which obviously we have, I mean we've
Speaker 4: put skin in the game with that, there is only
Speaker 4: one kind and it's hot guy and lots of hot girls,
Speaker 4: and that's it. So you know, for anyone who's in
Speaker 4: an older demographic who's watching. They're isolated from that kind
Speaker 4: of dating experience.
Speaker 1: That's right, so, and I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: secret sources of the show, the diversity of the cast.
Speaker 3: I think also.
Speaker 1: The experts role in the show has become very much
Speaker 1: more about calling out bad behavior, which there's plenty of.
Speaker 1: Which there is plenty of, and they come back at
Speaker 1: us just as hard. And in most reality concepts or shows,
Speaker 1: the experts is put on a pedestal, you know, and
Speaker 1: they are seen as all knowing, and so if you've
Speaker 1: burnt the lasagna, or if you've got a bad kitchen design,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't really get too upset about it,
Speaker 1: you know, whereas on our show, the experts really are
Speaker 1: in the firing line, and that when I sit down
Speaker 1: with our couples, they want to get things off the
Speaker 1: chest and I'm pointing out patterns in their lives that
Speaker 1: are very very personal and they don't like it. And
Speaker 1: so I think one of the interesting things when you
Speaker 1: watch it is how we respond as couples but also
Speaker 1: as experts to that confrontation.
Speaker 5: Have you had any big brawls that haven't made it,
Speaker 5: like made it to air, so you feel like that's
Speaker 5: the stuff that's making it. You know, like sometimes I
Speaker 5: feel like stuff goes on. I mean, I know I've
Speaker 5: done reality, but I know there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 5: that goes on that's left on the cutting room floor
Speaker 5: for whatever reason. But has there ever been a moment
Speaker 5: where you are having this confrontation with someone and it's
Speaker 5: just gone too far.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gone too far, but I certainly
Speaker 1: go as hard as I can because I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to make the edits. But it's better off
Speaker 1: saying everything you want to say and getting it out
Speaker 1: there rather than holding back and missing your opportunity. So really,
Speaker 1: for me, when I'm sitting in front of them, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's coming, and it's not scripted or staged.
Speaker 1: We're just sitting there delivering. But I've got to say
Speaker 1: it in a short, sharp way that's going to get
Speaker 1: them to stand up straight.
Speaker 4: You've already had some bombshells. I mean we're only a
Speaker 4: couple of episodes deep, and there's been some bombshells.
Speaker 2: People are leaving. They're not happy with who they've been
Speaker 2: matched with.
Speaker 5: I know so to me, and I mean for most
Speaker 5: people who watch it, I think The normal response now
Speaker 5: is like, you've seen enough of the show that surely
Speaker 5: you know as a participant that you may not get
Speaker 5: matched with someone who is your.
Speaker 2: Ideal bride or groom.
Speaker 4: So we've seen Tim has walked out at this point
Speaker 4: he wasn't happy with his bride who he would match with.
Speaker 4: And I know Australia has some very big feelings about that,
Speaker 4: big feelings. But how do you respond to that when
Speaker 4: you're like, you know that this is the process of
Speaker 4: the show. Why are you pretending like you didn't know
Speaker 4: that this is literally the format?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And Elliott also.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, this was Tradwife Matt, Yes, yes.
Speaker 1: So I think what it does right now on the
Speaker 1: show is it reflects what's going out on in the
Speaker 1: real world. And that's one of the things with the
Speaker 1: show is we tap into the zeitguy. So if it's
Speaker 1: gas lighting, if it's trad wives, worry, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's speaking your truth, whatever's going on out there,
Speaker 1: I shows up.
Speaker 5: No one's ever said to me, I'll be a warrior
Speaker 5: because I don't.
Speaker 2: Know how much that's happening, do.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: And I'd never heard that, And then when I was
Speaker 1: interviewing them this year. I'm saying, okay, so what's your
Speaker 1: approach to dating. I want to be a warrior. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what does that mean.
Speaker 5: No one has ever gotten the ick faster than hearing
Speaker 5: a man saying I'm a warrior.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm your warrior.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: You know I'm not heavily and across TikTok. But then
Speaker 1: I started to hear the women on the show talking about, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be a trad wife, I want to.
Speaker 3: Serve, I don't want a career.
Speaker 1: I really want the guy to take the lead, but
Speaker 1: also be really really rich, and so there's poor and
Speaker 1: take the lead. So I'm sort of sitting there hearing
Speaker 1: this stuff, thinking, Wow, this is a very different flavor
Speaker 1: of maths that's going to hit this year, and I
Speaker 1: think it's going to get very noisy, and I think
Speaker 1: it has as a result of that.
Speaker 2: What about the feedback for you?
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, it is your job to guide these
Speaker 4: couples so that they aren't completely toxic and don't destroy
Speaker 4: each other in the process, But what about the feedback
Speaker 4: when couples have been paired that seemingly from the outside
Speaker 4: are very toxic to each other or seem to be
Speaker 4: poorly paired.
Speaker 5: How do they come like, why is it that you
Speaker 5: put them together? So it made that choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what you're seeing there is what we're seeing,
Speaker 1: which is after knowing them for two months and drilling
Speaker 1: down and getting all the info to match them compatible
Speaker 1: in a way that's very compatible. What we don't know
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen when the camera's roll And
Speaker 1: you will have seen this because you've experienced it, you
Speaker 1: have skin in the game. What is going to happen
Speaker 1: when at six am to ten pm you've got a
Speaker 1: camera on you and you're trying to get to know
Speaker 1: your partner and also get along in the group. And
Speaker 1: what we find is that a seemingly compatible couple suddenly
Speaker 1: blows up in front of us and they look dreadful together.
Speaker 1: It might be a guy realizes, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: not into commitment, or I've got a type, or there's
Speaker 1: no chemistry, or one of the women will say, you
Speaker 1: know what I was really I thought I was ready
Speaker 1: for intimacy, but actually not with him.
Speaker 5: Not with him, or like I thought he had more
Speaker 5: zeros in the bank.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're getting this sort of explosion or implosion
Speaker 1: of the couple that you've spent months and months getting
Speaker 1: to know. So we get just as disappointed as everybody
Speaker 1: else when they.
Speaker 3: Don't make it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also think this year, just coming back
Speaker 1: to that thing that you were talking about with leaving
Speaker 1: the show out there in the dating world, what they're
Speaker 1: telling me is that commitment is hard to find.
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I dated everyone in Sydney and then ended
Speaker 4: up on a reality show to find my guys.
Speaker 2: It's so hard, right.
Speaker 1: And so some of them even said to me, John,
Speaker 1: I'm coming on maps because at least the guy that
Speaker 1: you match me with will stick around for longer than
Speaker 1: one date.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is.
Speaker 5: To me, John, if you can stick around, We've got
Speaker 5: to go to a break. But I'm so fascinated and
Speaker 5: I have so many more questions for you that we're
Speaker 5: going to hit you. So short break and we'll be
Speaker 5: back in a minute. It's a pick up on kiss.
Speaker 2: If you were just joining us.
Speaker 5: We are getting all of the goss on what is
Speaker 5: happening at Maths at the moment because we are joined
Speaker 5: by relationship expert John Aiken.
Speaker 4: Now John, you don't know this. I mean there's no
Speaker 4: way for you to know this, but I'm going to
Speaker 4: tell you. You featured very heavily in our girls group
Speaker 4: chat recently, and it's because there was a photo of
Speaker 4: you that appears he knows what it was a screenshot
Speaker 4: and there was something seemingly quite unfortunate or very fortunate,
Speaker 4: depending on what circumstance you might be in in the
Speaker 4: background of one of your photos.
Speaker 5: We need clarity everyone, what is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, can you tell me? What? Are they suggesting
Speaker 3: that it.
Speaker 5: Is butt plugo? In case anyone's say in Spain.
Speaker 2: Everyone's unsure. There's a very blurred background image.
Speaker 5: Is a thing that's sitting on a mantelpiece. It looks
Speaker 5: like it's holding up a book, but it could also
Speaker 5: be inserted somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, elb plus holding something.
Speaker 1: Over you know, I put it to be. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is, but I can tell you it
Speaker 1: is not mine.
Speaker 2: I that it never is. It's someone else's.
Speaker 1: But because you know reality TV so well, when you
Speaker 1: come on to do interviews, you will have sets that
Speaker 1: you just walk in, you sit down, you do your thing.
Speaker 2: John, you got stitched up somebody?
Speaker 5: John?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: You know what you're reminding me.
Speaker 5: Of the last thirteen years of my life. I've been
Speaker 5: a hospital worker. I'm a radiographer in a hospital.
Speaker 2: This big career.
Speaker 5: Change and the number of people that come in, Like
Speaker 5: a big part of my job was people that had
Speaker 5: some el.
Speaker 2: Butt plugs or whatever. Usually not that, not that the
Speaker 2: correct apparatus.
Speaker 5: Something foreign sucked up their buttons, right, So we've got
Speaker 5: to find it in the abdomen. You just reminded me
Speaker 5: of that, because the number one thing they say is
Speaker 5: like they'll be like they'll be like, there'll be a
Speaker 5: pool ball up there, and I'll be like, how did
Speaker 5: this happen?
Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I was playing pool and then it
Speaker 5: was there and it just happened.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 5: It's like I slipped and fell on the pool table.
Speaker 5: There's so many things like that. That's you just gave
Speaker 5: me anyway, all right, you heard it here. It was
Speaker 5: a fake set, John. So the most controversial thing, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's already happened on this season of mass one of
Speaker 5: the most controversial episodes is the photo ranking.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it happens every.
Speaker 3: Season every season. Now.
Speaker 1: The thing about that, the thing about that challenge is
Speaker 1: that it's really a test of emotional intelligence and how
Speaker 1: you handled DELI well, hit me out, let me try
Speaker 1: and describe it. Most of our couples do it very well.
Speaker 1: They will say, you know what, I'm going to put
Speaker 1: my partner first. But there's always a handful every year
Speaker 1: who completely dropped the ball and they will be putting
Speaker 1: in their mind the hottest girl first. They will put
Speaker 1: their partner way down the list and it completely blows
Speaker 1: the relationship up totally. And what it's taught us is
Speaker 1: that people really are not able to have delicate conversations
Speaker 1: or read the room or even understand the bigger picture here,
Speaker 1: and often they never recover from that. And you're just
Speaker 1: seeing it now. You know, there's a couple of individuals
Speaker 1: in this episode coming up that just do it very badly.
Speaker 4: But do you think it's also because I mean, and
Speaker 4: it's something we see in dating all the time, people
Speaker 4: who disguise honesty as a reason to be me. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, so you can't be angry at me.
Speaker 4: It's objectively you're just not as hot as Sarah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had that in Maths maybe two three years ago.
Speaker 1: Dom and Olivia really had this great rivalry for the ages,
Speaker 1: but it would get incredibly intense and very personal, and
Speaker 1: they would say, look, we're just speaking our truth, and
Speaker 1: what we had to reflect back to them is that
Speaker 1: being honest doesn't mean that you can assassinate a person's
Speaker 1: character and really be rude.
Speaker 4: Well, it's also just like almost that I'm just speaking
Speaker 4: my truth. Really from the sounds like you're weaponizing therapy
Speaker 4: talk like you know enough of it, but now you're
Speaker 4: manipulating how to use it.
Speaker 5: But then on the flip side, like, are we then
Speaker 5: encouraging lying? Like if you don't think your partner's the
Speaker 5: hottest there, and yes, Brittany.
Speaker 2: You lie. Why would you say anything else? Because I
Speaker 2: don't think we even have the competition.
Speaker 5: I don't think we have the challenge. I remember offer
Speaker 5: our Bachelor audition like seven years ago. This is some
Speaker 5: real goss for you, John, when in the audition there
Speaker 5: were just maybe twenty girls in there in the room
Speaker 5: and they'd say, cool, now it's time line yourself up.
Speaker 5: Yourself hottest at this end, best dressed to it's to
Speaker 5: me who you think is a little less attractive, And
Speaker 5: you had to slought yourself in person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in person, and you.
Speaker 5: Had to put yourself in the line, and sometimes you'd
Speaker 5: stand somewhere and someone like.
Speaker 4: Push you out and you put You did that in
Speaker 4: the audition.
Speaker 2: We did it as a group date. But I came
Speaker 2: after you.
Speaker 5: They probably realized quick, smart, we can't have this on TV.
Speaker 2: I hang on back to maps.
Speaker 5: Another question.
Speaker 2: Sorry, this is like a.
Speaker 3: Railroad interview, pulling the curtain back.
Speaker 2: John, It's like, we'll use it on the next season trademark.
Speaker 2: So one question I do have.
Speaker 5: And there's been two couples on this season that have
Speaker 5: known each other like before they've had a like loose
Speaker 5: date or they had a bit more of a connection,
Speaker 5: and then they've ended up at the end of the
Speaker 5: aisle being like, oh my god, you're the guy that
Speaker 5: ghosted me. Is there any part of that that is
Speaker 5: that you guys know about when you cast, because I know.
Speaker 2: You go through you do your ji diligence, So.
Speaker 5: You look at someone you're like, Okay, let's see who
Speaker 5: they know on Instagram or what their life looks like.
Speaker 5: Surely there was some sort of a flag where you
Speaker 5: guys know that they might know each other.
Speaker 3: No, it was absolutely had no idea.
Speaker 5: That's grim for Australia's dating scene.
Speaker 3: So it does reflect that the smaller pool that's out there.
Speaker 3: But also.
Speaker 2: You've got no hope but to date the guy that
Speaker 2: ghosted you last week.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is when you when you're doing your
Speaker 1: background checks and you're getting to know them, you talk
Speaker 1: to them about their signals relationships. You know, three four
Speaker 1: years together, they might have been married and now divorced,
Speaker 1: but you don't find out about a one night stand
Speaker 1: or a fling that happened a year ago that you know,
Speaker 1: they may not even know the names of the people
Speaker 1: that they've gone out in a date with.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: We were talking about this on lafe on Cut our
Speaker 4: podcast and because I think anyone who objectively would look
Speaker 4: at the show would assume that.
Speaker 5: That was a manufactured moment from.
Speaker 4: Producers, And we kind of got to the point where
Speaker 4: we were like, we actually think it was a producer's
Speaker 4: dream and it was serendipitous that fell into place, because
Speaker 4: how would you manufacture finding two people where one of
Speaker 4: them had once upon a time ghosted them on a date.
Speaker 4: Like it's almost too arbitrary to find that information out
Speaker 4: about someone for it to have happened in the way
Speaker 4: it did.
Speaker 1: It's right, and when we did find out about it,
Speaker 1: you know, you're always thinking with merrit at first sight,
Speaker 1: what do we do here? This is a different new storyline.
Speaker 1: Do we cut it and get a new couple in
Speaker 1: or do we just lean into it? And with Maths
Speaker 1: we always lean into it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what if you did like a spin off? It's
Speaker 5: like married at second sight?
Speaker 1: I mean we get all sorts of things for the
Speaker 1: celebrity maths, you know, getting people on. I mean there's
Speaker 1: so many different versions of Maths that Maths after Dark
Speaker 1: a bit more raded.
Speaker 5: Isn't that just like only fans?
Speaker 2: No, you guys would get canceled for that.
Speaker 5: If you put Maths after Dark like someone's getting sued. Well,
Speaker 5: do you think, John, on a serious note for a second,
Speaker 5: do you think you have more likelihood of it working
Speaker 5: out if you just like these couples that had met right,
Speaker 5: they did go on a date and they did work
Speaker 5: out that it wasn't great. You goes with me, you're
Speaker 5: a bit of a dick. Do we have to hold
Speaker 5: that against that person knowing that maybe it was just
Speaker 5: a one off and they're not a bad person.
Speaker 2: Or do you think that it gives.
Speaker 5: Them more of a success story maybe.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the interesting thing about those two storylines. These
Speaker 1: couples know each other, we've never seen it before. What
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what would happen? You know, what's
Speaker 1: their experience going to be like? Because how they broke
Speaker 1: up in the past has an influence also whether they
Speaker 1: come in with a mindset of well, the experts are
Speaker 1: here now, so maybe we're going to get a fresh
Speaker 1: new relationship, or are they going to go, you know what,
Speaker 1: we've done this before, this didn't work. This isn't going
Speaker 1: to work now either. So we were really not sure
Speaker 1: whether they.
Speaker 3: Were going to be able to navigate it. And it is.
Speaker 1: They do have some highs and some lows along the way,
Speaker 1: So it is it's a very fresh sort of look
Speaker 1: to the show with that happening in it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, John, I have one more question for you. Who
Speaker 5: do you think is the biggest red flag of this season?
Speaker 3: Biggest red flag?
Speaker 1: I mean, well, probably what I would say is that
Speaker 1: the couples. I'd say the couples that are most entrenched
Speaker 1: in their ideas, so immediately Lauren and Elliott, when you
Speaker 1: watch them together, I mean, we know why we matched them,
Speaker 1: but when we watched them and the way they talked,
Speaker 1: and you know, one being so inflexible about his deal breakers,
Speaker 1: that's always.
Speaker 3: A real red flag to me.
Speaker 1: Not just him, there were there's couples there as well
Speaker 1: that are that are caught in that battle of I'm right,
Speaker 1: you're wrong. You know that point scoring that always happen.
Speaker 1: That's a real red flag as well. And you're starting
Speaker 1: to see some of it come out of the dinner parties,
Speaker 1: which then becomes even more of a problem at the
Speaker 1: commitment ceremonies.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait for I Am a celebrity to
Speaker 4: finish so I can watch the rest of it.
Speaker 2: I seat.
Speaker 3: What about Maddie J and the Jungle.
Speaker 4: It's doing well, except he's getting very thin, I can
Speaker 4: I was going to see he's hungry.
Speaker 3: He's got that whole jungle look going.
Speaker 5: You might not have heard yet, but he did.
Speaker 2: He's in the bad books.
Speaker 5: He did just admit live on TV that he would
Speaker 5: rather eat a mango than have sex with Laura at
Speaker 5: the moment, Maddie J.
Speaker 3: You didn't, he did.
Speaker 2: He's tired. Can blame the man. He needs some sugars
Speaker 2: and then we'll have sex.
Speaker 3: It's fine.
Speaker 5: Maybe he's on maps next year.
Speaker 3: I'll It's hard to look good in the jungle, but
Speaker 3: he manages it.
Speaker 2: He is a good looking rooster.
Speaker 5: It makes sense as to why once upon a time
Speaker 5: he was chosen to be the Bachelor John.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2: It's been wonderful.
Speaker 4: Brit You know that I have been spending every evening
Speaker 4: recently watching I'm a Celebrity, Get me out of here.
Speaker 4: And the reason for that, if you're not across it
Speaker 4: is because my husband is currently a contestant on the show.
Speaker 4: He's deep in the jungle, Maddie j. He's looking hungry,
Speaker 4: he's looking lean.
Speaker 5: He's looking a bit gray houndy.
Speaker 2: Isn't he.
Speaker 5: I was watching last night and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 5: that's a skinny man right there. Well, it happens quickly.
Speaker 5: They really do starve you out. People think it's fake
Speaker 5: and you don't get fed. Well, I mean that you
Speaker 5: secretly get fed, but you genuinely don't get fair.
Speaker 4: It's literally just rice and beans. Unless you win a challenge.
Speaker 4: So Matt is also a particularly hungry person, and he
Speaker 4: is someone who gets very, very angry, and he also
Speaker 4: works out a lot. So I just think, like bigger
Speaker 4: guys who have muscles need.
Speaker 5: To He's hardly whold Hogan.
Speaker 2: He's a runner.
Speaker 5: Come on, He's not Arnie Schwartzer Nigga.
Speaker 2: True. But you know, well a woman dream, can't you. Anyway?
Speaker 4: The other night, right, there was a challenge where they
Speaker 4: split the teams into two. So now it's boys verse girls. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's men verse women. And the men won the challenge,
Speaker 4: and so Matt ate up like a king. He had steak,
Speaker 4: he had veggies, and then for dessert was mango. And
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was like this when you're
Speaker 4: in the jungle bred, but mango seems.
Speaker 2: To be the elite dessert that everyone wants.
Speaker 5: It's high end, Like it's like you want to lay
Speaker 5: down and have someone feed at you, but it's too
Speaker 5: big to fit in the mouth hoole. It's like that though,
Speaker 5: was that like asm, what's.
Speaker 2: Am I just fitted in the mouth hole?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, Matt was also very excited about fitting that into
Speaker 5: his mouth hole, so much so he said something live
Speaker 5: on National TV, which I wish he hadn't have a
Speaker 5: listen to this. I don't want to say it loudly,
Speaker 5: but that was the best meal I've ever had in
Speaker 5: my entire life.
Speaker 1: Right now, if I had the option of having sex
Speaker 1: with my wife having another mango, I'd go to the mango.
Speaker 4: Hang on, my husband would rather eat a mango than
Speaker 4: have sex with me?
Speaker 2: Question? Hang on?
Speaker 5: Did he say at the start where he whispered, did
Speaker 5: he say that was the best feel I've ever had
Speaker 5: in my life? The best feed, the best feel? I
Speaker 5: think I think he said the best feel. And I
Speaker 5: was like, that's groomed for you, Laura, I'm the mango
Speaker 5: appeeling the manga, the fluffy mango. Was like that, okay, Matt,
Speaker 5: you should not have said that, no can I Also
Speaker 5: he was like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to say this loudly. I'd rather eat a mango.
Speaker 5: Like he went from whispering it to basically yelling to
Speaker 5: the whole entire cam. But also, doesn't matter if you
Speaker 5: whisper it, you still say it.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 5: It was very audible. There was no whispering about that.
Speaker 5: I would rather eat this mango than bone my wife.
Speaker 2: I'm a fender.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 5: You're in control when he gets home. You know, when
Speaker 5: he gets home in the bed, just have one mango
Speaker 5: sitting in the bed, and you'd be like, I'm sleeping
Speaker 5: the other room. Oh yeah, the next time I'm tired,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to hand him a mango.
Speaker 2: You made your Shortes says.
Speaker 4: I'm no longer am I going to say I have
Speaker 4: a headache, he's a mango.
Speaker 5: In mass defense, which I don't do often, I'm always
Speaker 5: team Laura, I will always back I'm backing you now.
Speaker 5: But in his defense, everything tastes in there like the
Speaker 5: best thing you have ever experienced because you're so hungry
Speaker 5: and you haven't had sugars and you haven't had anything
Speaker 5: nice or treats, that everything hits different. I know it
Speaker 5: does feel better, like he probably was going to have
Speaker 5: the big oh off the back of that met.
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying, but you do also have
Speaker 4: to remember that I met my husband on a reality
Speaker 4: TV show where we couldn't be together for three months.
Speaker 4: We basically did the deed the first time after like
Speaker 4: a three month stint of never being able to even
Speaker 4: touch each other, and that he still thinks the mango.
Speaker 2: Is better than that.
Speaker 5: Okay, dig up, Matthew, dig up.
Speaker 2: That it's on record. I was trying to have you back.
Speaker 2: I'm at home doing everything the kids.
Speaker 4: I am managing everything at the moment, a renovation and
Speaker 4: two kids. Molly has her first day of school tomorrow.
Speaker 4: He's not going to be there. He's not coming.
Speaker 5: You're gonna pack her amengo yill.
Speaker 2: That sounds now, that sounds wrong. Anyway, Look guys, it's
Speaker 2: the end of the show.