1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Now joining me in the studio is a Northern Territory 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Police Association president Nathan Finn. Good morning to you, Finny. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning to your listeners. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Now make these lots to cover off on this morning. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: And I was going to start with the Northern Territory 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: government announcement yesterday, but I actually want to start with 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: some info that's just come through from the Northern Territory Police. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: They've arrested three youths after multiple robberies in Casarina. Yesterday 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: at about twelve o'clock, police received reports that a group 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: had entered a service station on Trail Road before threatening 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: an employee with jet lighters. The female youths have caused 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: damage throughout the store before attempting to assault an employee 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: with a pair of scissors and fleeing the scene. Now 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: the group have attended another servo on the same road 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: and stolen small items before again fleeing the scene. But 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: the part I want to get to is detectives from 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Strikeforce Trident deployed and tracked that group to a nearby 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: car park. Now, while apprehending two of the offenders after 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: a footchase, one officer was assaulted multiple times by the offenders. 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: The officer luckily did not suffer any serious injuries and 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: all three offenders were subsequently arrested. But you know, when 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: you've got a situation where kids of that age, so 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: thirteen and fourteen is my understanding, are assaulting a police officer, 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: it really shows you that there is no level of respect. 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: No, definitely not. It's concerning. This is the first I've 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: heard of a kadie obviously coming in here today. My 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: concern is for the police officers out there and being 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: assaulted and what consequences these kids are going to actually face. Well, 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: they've got no respect for anyone. They're showing that day 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: in day out, and unfortunately our members are at the 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: forefront of this and getting assaulted by these use that 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: have no consequences. 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, it's just terrible. I mean, when you 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: hear this, it's terrible. And then we know there was 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: also another incident just before seven o'clock last night where 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: there's a large disturbance involving up to fifty people at 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the underground car park at Casarina. You know, these are 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the kinds of things that our police are dealing with 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: every single day. You know, there is so much that 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: they're dealing with every single day. We then have a 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: situation where the Northern Territory government yesterday announced that, you know, 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: when we've discussed it during the week, that was a 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: high visibility new police unit to be based in Darwen 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: in a bid to keep the community safe. I mean 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: this territory, the Territory Safety Division is going to target 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: the secondary supply of alcohol, public drinking, anti social behavior 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: and bail breaches. It's a ten person team at this 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: stage based at Nightcliff, but it's going to be surged 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: into other places, including Alice Springs, Tenant Catherine, with efforts 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: underway to recruit fifty additional officers. I mean, Finny, what's 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: your reaction firstly to this new division? 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: Sophistly questions that we're asking Katie. Most of his questions 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: are where these members coming from? Where is additional funding 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: for this? When is this funding actually going to flow 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: through to police? How are we going to actually recruit 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: fifty yet extra We've heard before previously and Elie Springs 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: that we haven't argued with over numbers, the Minister and 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: I saying that they've only got three more than when 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: obviously they were the federal government and announced the Prime 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: Minister and they're saying there's only eleven extra from then 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: where's that nineteen members to start with? They're already nineteen 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: shortened in Alice Springs and now we're saying we're going 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: to fund an extra fifty police officers up here in 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory based in Nightcliff for very valid reasons. 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: I assume from the political appointments here again we are 66 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: struggling to recruit and maintain our staffing levels. We haven't 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: got a fifty additional police officers. We haven't got a 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: fifty additional police officer for Drina as they announced obviously previously. 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: Why don't we wait until I've actually got the members 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: we can actually deploy to these sections and create these sections. 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: What do you think it's going to do then if 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: you don't actually have those members, I mean, are we 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: going to be drawing members away from other areas where 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: they could or should be working. 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: We already are, Kadie. The ten officers that already come 76 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: from there have come from the front line operations from Palmerston, 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Casarina and Darwen, which we already know are well under 78 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: resource to deal with the reports that are coming in 79 00:03:59,080 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: from the public. 80 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is those ten officers are being 81 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: taken from those other areas. 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: It's correct, and they're already commencing. Some are commencing before Christmas, 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: some are commencing after Christmas. But again, they're removing the 84 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: ability for this agency to respond to those calls from 85 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: the members of the public and actually placing the public 86 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: at further risk because we're not able to respond to 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: those and meet the demands currently going through. 88 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: So do you have concerns in that by drawing those 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: ten officers from other areas where they're already working on 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: the front line, that it's going to have an impact 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: in those places that they're being taken away from. 92 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: Definitely, they are, and we're already seeing a surge into 93 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: the frontline capability. We're seeing detectives being pushed in to 94 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: do seven shifts on the front line. No one's doing 95 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: their jobs when they're doing that either, but they're coming 96 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: into actually they were supposed to be doing proactive stuff 97 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: and now they're just trying to catch up on the 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: demand that's being placed on our frontline police roy resources 99 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: because of the increase in domestic violence, increase in reports 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: to police increase crime, understandably, we're frustrated. We compare our 101 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: policing staffing numbers. We've done that comparison from twenty twelve 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: to twenty thirteen to the current annual figures. These are 103 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: figures provided by the gap by the police force, and 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: we're showing that we've only had twenty constables extra in 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: those ten years despite that increase of two point two percent. 106 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: But when we compare the crime statistic from twenty eighteen only, 107 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 2: we're seeing assaults have gone up fifty two percent, robber 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: has increased one hundred and eighty six percent, house breakings 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: are up forty two percent, attempted break ins are up 110 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty seven percent, and property damage is 111 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: up forty five percent. Where are we going to stop? 112 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: The government needs to take action that crime is out 113 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: of control and we haven't got the police resource to 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: deal with it. 115 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: So just looking then, as you know, at this announcement 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: that they've made at these additional police that are actually 117 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: being taken from the front line in other areas, So 118 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound as though there's any actual need for 119 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: additional funding if they're just being drawn from different areas 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: at the moment. But if they want to get to 121 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: that fifty, then it is going to a quire additional money. 122 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Has additional money actually been set aside for this? 123 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: The additional money, that's again a decision from government. I 124 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: haven't seen where they're going to get the money from. 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: They haven't been discussed with me where they got their 126 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: extra money or where they're going to fund it now 127 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: orhere they're going to fund it into the new financial year. 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: But again that's obviously a budget consideration for the government. 129 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: The fact is we can't get enough police on the 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: road to deal with the demand from the public at 131 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: the moment. We'd be better resourced to give those extra 132 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: police officer if we had extra police officers to the 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: front line to boster them to enable us to respond 134 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: to the call from the public. 135 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: So pick, do you think that this is going to 136 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: make a difference in any way having this like the 137 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: creation of this new units. I mean, is it going 138 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: to make a difference in any way? Now? 139 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: That's sing it now? No, it's not going to make 140 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: any difference now because we haven't got the members to 141 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: put into these units, and they're saying that we're going 142 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: to recruit and retain. We know it takes seven months 143 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: to train a police officer in the Northern Territory for constable, 144 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: but again we're going to put them to the front line. 145 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: And then they're saying they're going to remove experienced police 146 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: officers to this new unit. Who's going to train these 147 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: probationary constables, who are going to train these inexperienced police officers. 148 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: We can't just imaginally put fifty people into this section. 149 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: We now we've got a squad coming out of the 150 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: College in February which is going to be committed to 151 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: both darw and Catherine and also Alice Springs some of 152 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: those recruits. But again we're losing more than what we're 153 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: actually putting out there. 154 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Do you I mean, do you think that this announcement 155 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: has been made for pure political purposes? 156 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: Guaranteed? 157 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: Do you think it's been made because the Nightcliff Police 158 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: Station to Mini has been seen as being not sort 159 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: of not operational. Yep. 160 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: And as I said before, Katie, there's a reason why 161 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: it's announced that Nightcliff they're going into Nightcliffe Police Station 162 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: because a certain minister being the chief. 163 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: It's their electric I mean it look, you know, everybody's 164 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: sort of wanting to see some movement here. Everybody's wanting 165 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: to see some change. So I guess you see these 166 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: kinds of announcements made you think, Okay, well, hopefully this 167 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: is going to make a difference. Hopefully we're going to 168 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: see some you know, some movement with the issues that 169 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: were ex you're in seeing with anti social behavior and 170 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: alcohol issues. But from what you're saying to me today, 171 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: it really sounds as though we're just sort of robbing 172 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Peter to pay Paul. 173 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: We're not going to see any changes in the immediate future, Caddy, 174 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: until that these people can be recruited and obviously resourced 175 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: and then placed into those positions. So we're not going 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: to see any any change for this section or the 177 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: additional police officers until well into the middle of next year. 178 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: Now, I do want to ask you about one of 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: the other announcements that the Northern Territory government made towards 180 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: the end of last week, and that's that coresponder model. 181 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: When it comes to you seter out breaking the law 182 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: or doing the wrong thing on the streets, do you 183 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: think that this is going to support the police. Is 184 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: it going to have a positive impact. 185 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: The positive impact so far Katie is that this is 186 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: no change from previous Before Territory Families have been on 187 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: call twenty four hours a day, seven days a week 188 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: with us, and obviously they respond after we make a 189 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: phone call. The only difference to us is that they're 190 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: actually now stationed at the police station in Alice Springs 191 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: and also at the outreach. So is that a good thing. 192 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: That's a good thing for us as it stops that 193 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: delay in the phone call and them attending and them 194 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: rolling out to where we are. It is helping the 195 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: members and they are seeing some good help. But again, 196 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: why should we be dealing with that youth problem unless 197 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 2: they're committing offenses or unless there's a real concern for 198 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: their welfare on the street that's immediate and that we 199 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: need to respond to it. Why isn't Territory Families doing 200 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: this work? Again, we don't want to see youth, The 201 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Government's quite clear that we don't want to see use 202 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: in custody everything else. But why are we conveying them 203 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: to these people? 204 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: So you think that that's what Territory Families should actually be. 205 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: Differently, but what I heard this morning was that they're 206 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: thirty percent short on staff. Yeah, I'd love to know 207 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: what that equates to in numbers of front full time equivalents, 208 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: because that's astonishing. 209 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: Well, look, we're trying to find out. I will try 210 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: and find out just based on the annual report what 211 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: that does mean to the full time equivalent staff within 212 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: territory families, because yes, territory families, Minister Nari, I keep 213 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: making that admission this morning, on the week that was 214 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: I thought was a massive thing to say. I mean, 215 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: thirty percent down on your staffing levels, and you just 216 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: wonder then what that means across the board in terms 217 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: of dealing with the issues that we are seeing amongst 218 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: our youth in the Northern Territory and the impact that 219 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: has and on other frontline services like the police. 220 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: It's not a policing response. Child welfare is not a 221 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: policing response. If it comes down to us we take 222 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: emergency action. We shouldn't be in that preventative space, and 223 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: Territory Family should be working in that space and providing 224 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: assistance to us. 225 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: F Anny. One other thing I do want to ask 226 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: you about quickly before I let you go. We've seen 227 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: the reduction in the takeaway alcohol opening hours this week 228 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: from ten to twelve. Have you had much feedback from 229 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: police from frontline at this point in time as to 230 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: whether it's making much of a difference or too early 231 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: to tell. 232 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: It's a little bit too early to tell at the moment. 233 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: But from the all reports from our members on the ground, 234 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: nothing's changed. We're still seeing the same number of jobs 235 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: coming through, the same amount of alcohol flowing back out 236 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: on the street. It's just in a reduced capacity, so 237 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: potentially the staff at these bottle shops will be busier 238 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: for the time they are open. We've seen this information 239 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: come through in the changes with Alice Springs, so initially 240 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: had to drop in Ola Springs, but again the sales 241 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: of the alcohol, the volume of alcohol being sold went 242 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: straight back up to what it was befreviously. 243 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: Well. Nathan Finn, the President of the Northern Territory Police Association, 244 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. Thank you very much for all 245 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: your help throughout the year. 246 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, and yeah, definitely obviously those members that 247 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: are sold it and members that do go above and 248 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: beyond every day, we thank you and obviously wish you 249 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: the very best for the merry Christmas and the New Years. Obviously, 250 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: with your listeners as well, but take care, look after 251 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: yourselves and we look forward to speaking to you early 252 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: in the new year. Katie, and thank you for your support. 253 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: No worries it all. We will catch up with you 254 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: early in the new year, but goodness knows what could 255 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: happen over the next few days. We might talk to 256 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: you before then. 257 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: Finny, I've probably probably a fair chance that we probably 258 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 2: will talk before. 259 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: Christmas, potentially have a lovely Christmas with your family though. 260 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. 261 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Thank thank you.