WEBVTT - Guys, This Baby Killer Thing IS WILD 😶

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<v Speaker 1>On Flex and Frooms. Flex and Frooms. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Thursday, and to be honest, I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 2>get straight into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a quick request before we do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a blankye or knows someone who owns

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<v Speaker 2>a blankie. I'm trying to discern what type of people

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<v Speaker 2>participate in this cultural tradition. I have a suspicion it

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<v Speaker 2>is Caucasian behavior, and that has been affirmed by those

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>If you aren't Caucasian and you have a blanky, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking just like you know, a blanket, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking like a comfort item that could be a stuffed

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<v Speaker 2>animal that you've held on too since you were an infant. Please, Dearmuson,

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<v Speaker 2>let us know. I'm trying to draw some conclusions. Please

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Flex and Rooms on kit.

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<v Speaker 2>We are starting on I would say a somber note,

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<v Speaker 2>but a very educational and necessary note. When I walked

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<v Speaker 2>into the studio today said I'm having a conniption. The

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<v Speaker 2>girl he's asked why, I said, Lucy let be. If

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard that name floating around the new cycle TikTok Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy let be let the name be known is a

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<v Speaker 2>serial killer, not an English rose who found herself on

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<v Speaker 2>hard times. It's coming out that this woman, Lucy let

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<v Speaker 2>be was a nurse, a neonatal nurse, who between the

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<v Speaker 2>months or the years of June twenty fifteen and June

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, killed at least six infants and attempted to

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<v Speaker 2>kill an additional seven. And what's been really, really, really

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<v Speaker 2>stressful to observe. Aside from the case and the details

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<v Speaker 2>of itself, that was completely avoidable because her peers and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff clocked her on death three and they were gasolt

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<v Speaker 2>into feeling as though they were just targeting a lovely

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<v Speaker 2>young woman. But the media coverage thus far has been

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<v Speaker 2>very confusing in giving details about what Lucy let be

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<v Speaker 2>has done. They keep framing her as this wounded girl

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<v Speaker 2>who was so innocent and lovely and how could she

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<v Speaker 2>fall times and what would have drawn her to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see you giving Ted Bundy the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of Oh, let's just get into I disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it has been like.

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<v Speaker 1>Fully has have you? How many articles have you read?

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<v Speaker 3>Quite a few, and what I've seen is that they

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<v Speaker 3>can't actually see a motive with her, but they're also like,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know anything about her, Like yes, they're saying, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>she looks really regular, and it's like kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>it's reiterating the idea that the way someone looks doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the halo effect, which is exactly what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. They're framing it is not they're not leading

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<v Speaker 2>with the issue at hand. There's a woman out here who,

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<v Speaker 2>in her care of just one year, killed seven babies.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not the story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how does someone so assuming, unassuming do something so dangerous?

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<v Speaker 2>If she was not a white woman, people would not

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<v Speaker 2>be saying how is she so unassuming? How could she

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<v Speaker 2>be drawn to it? If she was just a regular

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<v Speaker 2>old person who would exist in these like edges of

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<v Speaker 2>society who are already viewed as being violent or overly

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<v Speaker 2>masculine or quite scared, be like if that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we've clocked it. But everybody's like infantilization of white

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<v Speaker 2>women in particular is coming out where it's like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to the details. We need to find her motive.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about the motive. You're forgetting she literally tried.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one baby she tried attempted to kill three times, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to know her motive at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so scary. And then her peers working alongside her,

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<v Speaker 2>We're saying that there are so many avoidable situations. They

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<v Speaker 2>clocked it so early. They clocked it on baby two three.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, this is sus And the board was like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you guys are getting up on Lucy.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, I don't know. Lucy's really nice. Okay, she's

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<v Speaker 1>giving a chill, it's really nice. I don't think she

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<v Speaker 1>would do that.

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<v Speaker 2>We would risk their medical license dobbing on their peer

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Lucy let Me did not show up to

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<v Speaker 2>her court conviction either, so there is no first hand

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<v Speaker 2>case of why she did or didn't do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>all they found is her journal entries, which have kind

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<v Speaker 2>of detailed her feeling like she's not good enough and

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<v Speaker 2>just like general so deprecating behavior, but nothing that links

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<v Speaker 2>it so heavily to be like, this is why I

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<v Speaker 2>came for those kid lits. I just think people are

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<v Speaker 2>struggling to understand the true depth of how cooked this is,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the parents who have been gas lit into

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<v Speaker 2>being like just a strange, odd thing, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why you were baby died.

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<v Speaker 3>I just a'm sad for the families that, like with

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<v Speaker 3>their impact statements and stuff like, she couldn't be there

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<v Speaker 3>to So I think I heard that the PM in

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<v Speaker 3>in England wants to like make it so people have

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the trial. Yeah, because that's society in

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<v Speaker 3>a sense, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The people are saying and response about what we can't

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to drag them kicking and screaming? And

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<v Speaker 2>then if you bring that energy into a courtroom, it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of derails the whole point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, let it be derailed, then

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<v Speaker 1>it can be documented.

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<v Speaker 2>Right then you could see this person acting on their

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<v Speaker 2>own accord, not again people filling in the blanks and

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<v Speaker 2>being like, well, maybe that she's having a rough day

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<v Speaker 2>so she couldn't make it, or maybe it's really overwhelming

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<v Speaker 2>for her. Of course it's overwhelming, babe, she murderer. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the information we have for you. I won't be

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<v Speaker 2>updating you further, too traumatic, but you can seek out

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<v Speaker 2>this information.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy, let me do not forget the name.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm inviting some pettiness into the room because I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've been a little bit soft on each other, not

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<v Speaker 2>just you and I, but the world.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always an overcorrection.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's really really mean, then everybody's really really nice and

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<v Speaker 2>saccerin and sweet. Find the middle ground, be petty and endearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we'll try that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all struggling with it, but we'll get there. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing TikTok that we all need to listen to.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the smallest social site I'm looking do to you?

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually a big deal to you. For me, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're in a group and like you love to know

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<v Speaker 4>on your phone and then you're like showing people solf

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<v Speaker 4>it's like a meme or a tweet or something. Who

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<v Speaker 4>you show your phone to you? And if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>show your phone to says all that I need to

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<v Speaker 4>know about where we stand. And if you show their

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<v Speaker 4>phone to multiple people that don't show it.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, you're dead to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I will say in this situation, sometimes when you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a group setting that's not fully concrete, as in

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<v Speaker 2>maybe two or three groups have merged together. We're loitering

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<v Speaker 2>at a party and I see something on my phone

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<v Speaker 2>and I just show my friend because we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>primary conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>That I feel is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>If I go to show my phone to someone and

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<v Speaker 2>they look kind of busy, uninterested, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>reach over and interrupt them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing I was thinking of in a similar vein

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<v Speaker 2>when you're standing in a group and someone kind of

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<v Speaker 2>has their back to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we doing that? I hate am I in

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<v Speaker 1>am I out pick it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's disgusting you in a liminal space.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not great.

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<v Speaker 2>I also don't like when it's one thing to interrupt

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<v Speaker 2>people during conversation, but if you interrupt someone and then

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<v Speaker 2>don't acknowledge it, like so, for example, if we're talking, talking, talking,

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<v Speaker 2>I tangent to you, and then I don't bring you

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<v Speaker 2>back in and say sorry, what we're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. I need the little life, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back here, raft yeah, bring it back in.

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<v Speaker 3>However, I will say some people interrupt constantly and say sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interrupting, and keep doing it. Cut that out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's different, with all due respect, what are your slights?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that one hit home for me. Definitely. No offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, I no, I'm saying someone saying no offense, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Before they offend you, or just generally.

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<v Speaker 3>Generally, but also when it's like no offense, but something

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to know, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, it's yours, I would say. I don't like when

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<v Speaker 2>somebody leads with an insult that is masked with care,

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<v Speaker 2>so like you look really tired today?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay? And it's like, which is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you really thought I was going through something,

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<v Speaker 2>would you out it in front of everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the tact? Or like, oh, usually more dressed up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? What is that? Who do you work for?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that, like what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we doing casual? Chummy? Chummy? Or are you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to call me out my name?

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<v Speaker 2>Or when somebody says in front of people, like if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling a story and someone's like, but you always

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<v Speaker 2>do this or you always say this, and it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're around friends, that's funny. If we're not around

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<v Speaker 2>common company, don't call me out my name.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Lovelyne.

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<v Speaker 3>Fortunately, the nonsense and the scary times persist here in

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<v Speaker 3>the Shoes. Fortunately we have very dedicated listeners who love

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<v Speaker 3>to send us embarrassing non embarrassing, inspiring, empowering stories for

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<v Speaker 3>us to discuss on air. It is so wonderful. Whenever

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<v Speaker 3>we get feedback and messages, please send them to flex

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<v Speaker 3>and rooms on Instagram and are wonderful. Thank Let's producer

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<v Speaker 3>Mikhayla thankless producer?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Thankless? In that like the work that she does that

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<v Speaker 3>we don't see is thankless, but everything else she does

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<v Speaker 3>is seen and adored. That's a compliment, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm fine with that. I felt that.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean? You don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>secret language, do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Because when I a thankless producer, I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we are quite appreciative of the work.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you guys are appreciative, but I don't think people

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<v Speaker 5>are quite understand what a producer does.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so it's like, oh, do you just like Twitter

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<v Speaker 5>wheels plums okay.

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<v Speaker 1>When they come in press, but professional third wheel? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Mikayla puts the whole show together, schedules where everything goes edits,

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<v Speaker 3>the show puts it up manage our socials. Imagine being

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<v Speaker 3>one person doing all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, Okay, let's get to it. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>The title of this is My situationship Found my Blankie.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go high flex and frims. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>dating dilemma that is potentially the most embarrassing thing I've

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<v Speaker 3>experienced in the dating world this financial year.

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<v Speaker 2>We ought to do better everyone when we get to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, I don't want to hear any more.

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<v Speaker 2>Potentially the most embarrassing ever. There's so much media in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. It's it's it's Hollywood media, it's international media,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's self produced media from just regular people warning

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<v Speaker 2>you against the perils of doing not good in a

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<v Speaker 2>dating arena when twenty twenty four comes you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no excuses.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna go on. I have been on some

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<v Speaker 3>dates with a guy I really like. Every time he

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<v Speaker 3>comes over to my place for a rendezvous, I do

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<v Speaker 3>a sweep of my house and make sure everything is hidden.

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<v Speaker 3>I move my medications, sexual wellness toys, diaries, and other

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<v Speaker 3>possessions that could be liabilities if found by the wrong person.

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<v Speaker 3>The other day, we had an impromptu day date and

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<v Speaker 3>he ended up coming back to mind. It was unexpected,

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<v Speaker 3>so I didn't have a chance to clean my house

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<v Speaker 3>and do the requisite sweep. We ended up doing the

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<v Speaker 3>deed in a passionate frenzy. That is, just before he

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<v Speaker 3>suggested we get under the covers. We did so, like,

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<v Speaker 3>are both these people unemployed?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's coming to mind before he.

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<v Speaker 3>Did so, we get on the covers. We did so,

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<v Speaker 3>and he went to put his arm under my pillow,

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<v Speaker 3>like around under my shoulder. He felt something silky and

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<v Speaker 3>it was my blanky that I sleep with. I know

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<v Speaker 3>that some people have stuff toys, but I actually sleep

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<v Speaker 3>with an old raggedy nighty that I've had since I

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<v Speaker 3>was a kid. It belonged to my mum, which sounds

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<v Speaker 3>so weird and creepy, but it is a comfort item

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<v Speaker 3>that I've gotten used to having. I had to make

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<v Speaker 3>on excuse and tell him that I slept in it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm pretty sure he knew it was a lie

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<v Speaker 3>to make matters worse. He was getting up to leave,

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<v Speaker 3>and he looked under my bed and found a bee

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<v Speaker 3>box full of sexual wellness toys and commentate on them, saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't even need me. What do I do? Can

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<v Speaker 3>I recover from this much love? Ninety night night we

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<v Speaker 3>got a jore extra and a trick start in the studio,

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<v Speaker 3>just if you're not sure what a blank is. I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard that a blankie is like a soft toy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I honestly thought Blankie's and the stuffed toy thing

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<v Speaker 2>was a Hollywood trope, kind of like the way Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>depicts a lot of things that don't actually happen, but

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<v Speaker 2>it serves to tell a really quick story about a person.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know it was a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real thing I have, especially like toddlers and children.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it when we get into teenager and we

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<v Speaker 2>get into young adult, we get into real adult.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what are we doing with this? What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comfort is this giving you?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Two of my best friends have actual raggedy like

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<v Speaker 3>soft plush toys from when there were kids, not the rags,

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<v Speaker 3>the raggedty when they're Is it a Caucasian thing? Both

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<v Speaker 3>those friends are Caucasian.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my friend one of my best friends has one.

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<v Speaker 1>She Caucasian. Yeah, maybe we'll do a little pole.

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<v Speaker 2>Any non Caucasian people have any experience with blankies, because

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's why I'm not really getting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a blanky?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a blanky.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So then knowing people who do have blankies, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the embarrassing thing about having them? Because I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's someone who doesn't have one, I could imagine. I

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<v Speaker 2>know what I would think if I saw someone with one.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think this person's embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's embarrassing because it's just like a very

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<v Speaker 3>personal thing that is considered juvenile, right right, And like

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<v Speaker 3>I think often with comfort objects, like comfort objects I've got,

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<v Speaker 3>like there's just things that you want forever that you

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<v Speaker 3>would be sad that you would lose in a house fire,

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<v Speaker 3>for example. But that's just like a very tactile version.

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<v Speaker 1>I would feel me thinking like anything can go.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh, everything can go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a house fire, I'm like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what one thing i'd pick out. I just take my phone,

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<v Speaker 2>my wall, at my passport.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I would take like jewelry and stuff like that. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon that it sounds like this person is really noisy.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's looking under your bed, I'm looking at all

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<v Speaker 3>your sexual wellness toys and commenting on them. Stop looking.

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<v Speaker 2>I need more information. We need to ask this girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he crawl under the bed? Was it peeking out

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<v Speaker 2>because he's sounding you both sound like widows from you

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<v Speaker 2>text us babe information. I need to paint a more

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<v Speaker 2>clear picture because first it was the midday rendezv. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming on a weekday, because why would you say midday

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<v Speaker 2>if it was if it was a weekend, you just

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<v Speaker 2>say the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we've got the blankie, We've got.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even need me sexual wellness.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not happening to a lot of shed I would

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<v Speaker 3>say we are quite a fashion forward show. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 3>have my off days where I'm going down with a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a tracksuit situation. I did have a client

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<v Speaker 3>brief recently where they're like, describe your personal style, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, it's either giving like four year old in

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<v Speaker 3>a tracksuit that just wears one tracksuit, which is what

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<v Speaker 3>I did and ask for. I'd only wear one outfit

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<v Speaker 3>and the pants had to be very low on my hips,

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<v Speaker 3>or sexy nigella core.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you today today?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually like a secret third thing which is prone

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<v Speaker 3>to change. But I am wearing pants under my dress.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you're thinking. This is a non event,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a non story, this cinder, but really it is

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<v Speaker 3>a sign of the times. I remember early two thousands,

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<v Speaker 3>we had Ashley Tissdale's your hand them On, Tanna's, your

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<v Speaker 3>jes Scalba even and your Anne Hathaway wearing a little

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<v Speaker 3>bootcut jean moment under a floral, flouncy skirt, and I reckon.

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<v Speaker 3>In the like fifteen years since, it was seen as

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<v Speaker 3>extremely not okay to do such a thing. It was

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<v Speaker 3>seen as there's something actually wildly wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just was on anybody's raider.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you wore it, you'd wear it to

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<v Speaker 3>like a bad outfit party, Like it was that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the Fedora of the early two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in the last fifteen years, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>anyone would even think to wear a pant under a dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that it was bad or good, it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>on anybody's radar to have a thought about.

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<v Speaker 3>True, I feel like you're an early adopter of the pant.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like it, underskirt. What picked your interest initially?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to think about fashion a lot, I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't. I think it's the most boring part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Having any kind of like intellectual approach to it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm constantly consuming media, and I'm constantly just like copying

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<v Speaker 2>and iterating. So I saw some pretty amazing guys that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be lego, and I took it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you wear pants on a skirt?

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<v Speaker 1>Surely? No, Mickey, your pants on a skirt surely? So Codd.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's because I wear wide leg pants, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>and so putting wide leg pants under a skirt is difficult.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't actually own any like yogre.

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<v Speaker 1>A flowy skirt on top of a flowy pant. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's almost a bit Isha coded? What ishcar coded?

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<v Speaker 3>You have ishkar and Sydney?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that kind of like spell Barren Bay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like the early two thousands version got it

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<v Speaker 3>a bit evanescence coded as well. I have a pair

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<v Speaker 3>of really like thin cargo pants that I wear underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah okay, and they work quite well with the current dress.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a little holiday to label dress on. But really,

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<v Speaker 3>you do have to and choose your battles. I'd say

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<v Speaker 3>go to Glebe Markets on a Saturday morning, okay. Lots

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<v Speaker 3>of flouncy dresses that are easily incorporated into the pant life.

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<v Speaker 1>So its Glee markets closed or not closed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not real.

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<v Speaker 1>It exists and you can go and understand it exists.

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