Speaker 1: On Flex and Frooms. Flex and Frooms. This is the
Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: It is Thursday, and to be honest, I'm ready to
Speaker 2: get straight into the podcast.
Speaker 1: I do have a quick request before we do.
Speaker 2: If you have a blankye or knows someone who owns
Speaker 2: a blankie. I'm trying to discern what type of people
Speaker 2: participate in this cultural tradition. I have a suspicion it
Speaker 2: is Caucasian behavior, and that has been affirmed by those
Speaker 2: in the studio.
Speaker 1: But if you aren't.
Speaker 2: If you aren't Caucasian and you have a blanky, and
Speaker 2: I'm not talking just like you know, a blanket, I'm
Speaker 2: talking like a comfort item that could be a stuffed
Speaker 2: animal that you've held on too since you were an infant. Please, Dearmuson,
Speaker 2: let us know. I'm trying to draw some conclusions. Please
Speaker 2: enjoy the show.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Flex and Rooms on kit.
Speaker 2: We are starting on I would say a somber note,
Speaker 2: but a very educational and necessary note. When I walked
Speaker 2: into the studio today said I'm having a conniption. The
Speaker 2: girl he's asked why, I said, Lucy let be. If
Speaker 2: you've heard that name floating around the new cycle TikTok Instagram.
Speaker 2: Lucy let be let the name be known is a
Speaker 2: serial killer, not an English rose who found herself on
Speaker 2: hard times. It's coming out that this woman, Lucy let
Speaker 2: be was a nurse, a neonatal nurse, who between the
Speaker 2: months or the years of June twenty fifteen and June
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, killed at least six infants and attempted to
Speaker 2: kill an additional seven. And what's been really, really, really
Speaker 2: stressful to observe. Aside from the case and the details
Speaker 2: of itself, that was completely avoidable because her peers and
Speaker 2: stuff clocked her on death three and they were gasolt
Speaker 2: into feeling as though they were just targeting a lovely
Speaker 2: young woman. But the media coverage thus far has been
Speaker 2: very confusing in giving details about what Lucy let be
Speaker 2: has done. They keep framing her as this wounded girl
Speaker 2: who was so innocent and lovely and how could she
Speaker 2: fall times and what would have drawn her to do this.
Speaker 2: I don't see you giving Ted Bundy the same kind
Speaker 2: of Oh, let's just get into I disagree.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it has been like.
Speaker 1: Fully has have you? How many articles have you read?
Speaker 3: Quite a few, and what I've seen is that they
Speaker 3: can't actually see a motive with her, but they're also like,
Speaker 3: we don't know anything about her, Like yes, they're saying, yes,
Speaker 3: she looks really regular, and it's like kind of like
Speaker 3: it's reiterating the idea that the way someone looks doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the halo effect, which is exactly what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. They're framing it is not they're not leading
Speaker 2: with the issue at hand. There's a woman out here who,
Speaker 2: in her care of just one year, killed seven babies.
Speaker 1: That is not the story.
Speaker 2: It's how does someone so assuming, unassuming do something so dangerous?
Speaker 2: If she was not a white woman, people would not
Speaker 2: be saying how is she so unassuming? How could she
Speaker 2: be drawn to it? If she was just a regular
Speaker 2: old person who would exist in these like edges of
Speaker 2: society who are already viewed as being violent or overly
Speaker 2: masculine or quite scared, be like if that makes sense,
Speaker 2: Like we've clocked it. But everybody's like infantilization of white
Speaker 2: women in particular is coming out where it's like, let's
Speaker 2: get to the details. We need to find her motive.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about the motive. You're forgetting she literally tried.
Speaker 2: There was one baby she tried attempted to kill three times, Like,
Speaker 2: we don't need to know her motive at this point.
Speaker 2: It's so scary. And then her peers working alongside her,
Speaker 2: We're saying that there are so many avoidable situations. They
Speaker 2: clocked it so early. They clocked it on baby two three.
Speaker 2: They're like, this is sus And the board was like,
Speaker 2: maybe you guys are getting up on Lucy.
Speaker 1: They said, I don't know. Lucy's really nice. Okay, she's
Speaker 1: giving a chill, it's really nice. I don't think she
Speaker 1: would do that.
Speaker 2: We would risk their medical license dobbing on their peer
Speaker 2: like that. Lucy let Me did not show up to
Speaker 2: her court conviction either, so there is no first hand
Speaker 2: case of why she did or didn't do it. But
Speaker 2: all they found is her journal entries, which have kind
Speaker 2: of detailed her feeling like she's not good enough and
Speaker 2: just like general so deprecating behavior, but nothing that links
Speaker 2: it so heavily to be like, this is why I
Speaker 2: came for those kid lits. I just think people are
Speaker 2: struggling to understand the true depth of how cooked this is,
Speaker 2: and all the parents who have been gas lit into
Speaker 2: being like just a strange, odd thing, like I don't
Speaker 2: know why you were baby died.
Speaker 3: I just a'm sad for the families that, like with
Speaker 3: their impact statements and stuff like, she couldn't be there
Speaker 3: to So I think I heard that the PM in
Speaker 3: in England wants to like make it so people have
Speaker 3: to go to the trial. Yeah, because that's society in
Speaker 3: a sense, like.
Speaker 2: The people are saying and response about what we can't
Speaker 2: are we going to drag them kicking and screaming? And
Speaker 2: then if you bring that energy into a courtroom, it
Speaker 2: kind of derails the whole point.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, let it be derailed, then
Speaker 1: it can be documented.
Speaker 2: Right then you could see this person acting on their
Speaker 2: own accord, not again people filling in the blanks and
Speaker 2: being like, well, maybe that she's having a rough day
Speaker 2: so she couldn't make it, or maybe it's really overwhelming
Speaker 2: for her. Of course it's overwhelming, babe, she murderer. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's the information we have for you. I won't be
Speaker 2: updating you further, too traumatic, but you can seek out
Speaker 2: this information.
Speaker 1: Lucy, let me do not forget the name.
Speaker 2: I'm inviting some pettiness into the room because I think
Speaker 2: we've been a little bit soft on each other, not
Speaker 2: just you and I, but the world.
Speaker 1: There's always an overcorrection.
Speaker 2: Everybody's really really mean, then everybody's really really nice and
Speaker 2: saccerin and sweet. Find the middle ground, be petty and endearing.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll try that.
Speaker 2: We're all struggling with it, but we'll get there. Here's
Speaker 2: an amazing TikTok that we all need to listen to.
Speaker 4: What is the smallest social site I'm looking do to you?
Speaker 4: That's actually a big deal to you. For me, if
Speaker 4: you're in a group and like you love to know
Speaker 4: on your phone and then you're like showing people solf
Speaker 4: it's like a meme or a tweet or something. Who
Speaker 4: you show your phone to you? And if you don't
Speaker 4: show your phone to says all that I need to
Speaker 4: know about where we stand. And if you show their
Speaker 4: phone to multiple people that don't show it.
Speaker 1: To me, you're dead to me.
Speaker 2: Now, I will say in this situation, sometimes when you're
Speaker 2: in a group setting that's not fully concrete, as in
Speaker 2: maybe two or three groups have merged together. We're loitering
Speaker 2: at a party and I see something on my phone
Speaker 2: and I just show my friend because we're in the
Speaker 2: primary conversation.
Speaker 1: That I feel is fine.
Speaker 2: If I go to show my phone to someone and
Speaker 2: they look kind of busy, uninterested, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: reach over and interrupt them.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: Another thing I was thinking of in a similar vein
Speaker 2: when you're standing in a group and someone kind of
Speaker 2: has their back to you.
Speaker 1: Why are we doing that? I hate am I in
Speaker 1: am I out pick it.
Speaker 3: It's disgusting you in a liminal space.
Speaker 1: It's not great.
Speaker 2: I also don't like when it's one thing to interrupt
Speaker 2: people during conversation, but if you interrupt someone and then
Speaker 2: don't acknowledge it, like so, for example, if we're talking, talking, talking,
Speaker 2: I tangent to you, and then I don't bring you
Speaker 2: back in and say sorry, what we're saying.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I need the little life, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bring it back here, raft yeah, bring it back in.
Speaker 3: However, I will say some people interrupt constantly and say sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm interrupting, and keep doing it. Cut that out.
Speaker 1: That's different, with all due respect, what are your slights?
Speaker 3: Oh that one hit home for me. Definitely. No offense.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I no, I'm saying someone saying no offense, oh.
Speaker 1: Before they offend you, or just generally.
Speaker 3: Generally, but also when it's like no offense, but something
Speaker 3: I don't want to know, huh.
Speaker 2: Interesting, it's yours, I would say. I don't like when
Speaker 2: somebody leads with an insult that is masked with care,
Speaker 2: so like you look really tired today?
Speaker 1: Are you okay? And it's like, which is it?
Speaker 2: Because if you really thought I was going through something,
Speaker 2: would you out it in front of everyone?
Speaker 1: Where's the tact? Or like, oh, usually more dressed up?
Speaker 1: What's going on? What is that? Who do you work for?
Speaker 1: I don't like that, like what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Are we doing casual? Chummy? Chummy? Or are you trying
Speaker 1: to call me out my name?
Speaker 2: Or when somebody says in front of people, like if
Speaker 2: I'm telling a story and someone's like, but you always
Speaker 2: do this or you always say this, and it's like.
Speaker 1: I don't mind.
Speaker 2: If we're around friends, that's funny. If we're not around
Speaker 2: common company, don't call me out my name.
Speaker 1: Hello, Lovelyne.
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Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Thankless? In that like the work that she does that
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, I'm fine with that. I felt that.
Speaker 5: Thank you for me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean? You don't have a
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Speaker 2: Because when I a thankless producer, I'm like, I think
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Speaker 5: No, you guys are appreciative, but I don't think people
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Okay, let's get to it. Guys.
Speaker 3: The title of this is My situationship Found my Blankie.
Speaker 3: Here we go high flex and frims. I have a
Speaker 3: dating dilemma that is potentially the most embarrassing thing I've
Speaker 3: experienced in the dating world this financial year.
Speaker 2: We ought to do better everyone when we get to
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, I don't want to hear any more.
Speaker 2: Potentially the most embarrassing ever. There's so much media in
Speaker 2: the world. It's it's it's Hollywood media, it's international media,
Speaker 2: it's it's self produced media from just regular people warning
Speaker 2: you against the perils of doing not good in a
Speaker 2: dating arena when twenty twenty four comes you.
Speaker 1: I have no excuses.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go on. I have been on some
Speaker 3: dates with a guy I really like. Every time he
Speaker 3: comes over to my place for a rendezvous, I do
Speaker 3: a sweep of my house and make sure everything is hidden.
Speaker 3: I move my medications, sexual wellness toys, diaries, and other
Speaker 3: possessions that could be liabilities if found by the wrong person.
Speaker 3: The other day, we had an impromptu day date and
Speaker 3: he ended up coming back to mind. It was unexpected,
Speaker 3: so I didn't have a chance to clean my house
Speaker 3: and do the requisite sweep. We ended up doing the
Speaker 3: deed in a passionate frenzy. That is, just before he
Speaker 3: suggested we get under the covers. We did so, like,
Speaker 3: are both these people unemployed?
Speaker 1: That's what's coming to mind before he.
Speaker 3: Did so, we get on the covers. We did so,
Speaker 3: and he went to put his arm under my pillow,
Speaker 3: like around under my shoulder. He felt something silky and
Speaker 3: it was my blanky that I sleep with. I know
Speaker 3: that some people have stuff toys, but I actually sleep
Speaker 3: with an old raggedy nighty that I've had since I
Speaker 3: was a kid. It belonged to my mum, which sounds
Speaker 3: so weird and creepy, but it is a comfort item
Speaker 3: that I've gotten used to having. I had to make
Speaker 3: on excuse and tell him that I slept in it,
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure he knew it was a lie
Speaker 3: to make matters worse. He was getting up to leave,
Speaker 3: and he looked under my bed and found a bee
Speaker 3: box full of sexual wellness toys and commentate on them, saying,
Speaker 3: you don't even need me. What do I do? Can
Speaker 3: I recover from this much love? Ninety night night we
Speaker 3: got a jore extra and a trick start in the studio,
Speaker 3: just if you're not sure what a blank is. I've
Speaker 3: heard that a blankie is like a soft toy.
Speaker 1: I think it's really strange.
Speaker 2: Like I honestly thought Blankie's and the stuffed toy thing
Speaker 2: was a Hollywood trope, kind of like the way Hollywood
Speaker 2: depicts a lot of things that don't actually happen, but
Speaker 2: it serves to tell a really quick story about a person.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was a real thing.
Speaker 2: It's a real thing I have, especially like toddlers and children.
Speaker 2: I get it when we get into teenager and we
Speaker 2: get into young adult, we get into real adult.
Speaker 1: I said, what are we doing with this? What kind
Speaker 1: of comfort is this giving you?
Speaker 3: No? Two of my best friends have actual raggedy like
Speaker 3: soft plush toys from when there were kids, not the rags,
Speaker 3: the raggedty when they're Is it a Caucasian thing? Both
Speaker 3: those friends are Caucasian.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my friend one of my best friends has one.
Speaker 1: She Caucasian. Yeah, maybe we'll do a little pole.
Speaker 2: Any non Caucasian people have any experience with blankies, because
Speaker 2: maybe that's why I'm not really getting it.
Speaker 1: Do you have a blanky?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I don't have a blanky.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then knowing people who do have blankies, what
Speaker 2: is the embarrassing thing about having them? Because I know
Speaker 2: it's someone who doesn't have one, I could imagine. I
Speaker 2: know what I would think if I saw someone with one.
Speaker 2: Why do you think this person's embarrassed.
Speaker 3: I think it's embarrassing because it's just like a very
Speaker 3: personal thing that is considered juvenile, right right, And like
Speaker 3: I think often with comfort objects, like comfort objects I've got,
Speaker 3: like there's just things that you want forever that you
Speaker 3: would be sad that you would lose in a house fire,
Speaker 3: for example. But that's just like a very tactile version.
Speaker 1: I would feel me thinking like anything can go.
Speaker 3: Huh, everything can go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a house fire, I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what one thing i'd pick out. I just take my phone,
Speaker 2: my wall, at my passport.
Speaker 3: Wow, I would take like jewelry and stuff like that. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I reckon that it sounds like this person is really noisy.
Speaker 3: If he's looking under your bed, I'm looking at all
Speaker 3: your sexual wellness toys and commenting on them. Stop looking.
Speaker 2: I need more information. We need to ask this girl.
Speaker 2: Did he crawl under the bed? Was it peeking out
Speaker 2: because he's sounding you both sound like widows from you
Speaker 2: text us babe information. I need to paint a more
Speaker 2: clear picture because first it was the midday rendezv. I'm
Speaker 2: assuming on a weekday, because why would you say midday
Speaker 2: if it was if it was a weekend, you just
Speaker 2: say the weekend.
Speaker 1: Then we've got the blankie, We've got.
Speaker 2: You don't even need me sexual wellness.
Speaker 3: It's not happening to a lot of shed I would
Speaker 3: say we are quite a fashion forward show. Sometimes I
Speaker 3: have my off days where I'm going down with a
Speaker 3: bit of a tracksuit situation. I did have a client
Speaker 3: brief recently where they're like, describe your personal style, and
Speaker 3: I said, it's either giving like four year old in
Speaker 3: a tracksuit that just wears one tracksuit, which is what
Speaker 3: I did and ask for. I'd only wear one outfit
Speaker 3: and the pants had to be very low on my hips,
Speaker 3: or sexy nigella core.
Speaker 1: What are you today today?
Speaker 3: I'm actually like a secret third thing which is prone
Speaker 3: to change. But I am wearing pants under my dress.
Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking. This is a non event,
Speaker 3: It's a non story, this cinder, but really it is
Speaker 3: a sign of the times. I remember early two thousands,
Speaker 3: we had Ashley Tissdale's your hand them On, Tanna's, your
Speaker 3: jes Scalba even and your Anne Hathaway wearing a little
Speaker 3: bootcut jean moment under a floral, flouncy skirt, and I reckon.
Speaker 3: In the like fifteen years since, it was seen as
Speaker 3: extremely not okay to do such a thing. It was
Speaker 3: seen as there's something actually wildly wrong.
Speaker 1: I think I just was on anybody's raider.
Speaker 3: I think if you wore it, you'd wear it to
Speaker 3: like a bad outfit party, Like it was that bad.
Speaker 3: It's like the Fedora of the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, in the last fifteen years, I don't think
Speaker 2: anyone would even think to wear a pant under a dress.
Speaker 2: Not that it was bad or good, it just wasn't
Speaker 2: on anybody's radar to have a thought about.
Speaker 3: True, I feel like you're an early adopter of the pant.
Speaker 3: I do like it, underskirt. What picked your interest initially?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't like to think about fashion a lot, I
Speaker 2: really don't. I think it's the most boring part of it.
Speaker 2: Having any kind of like intellectual approach to it. But
Speaker 2: I'm constantly consuming media, and I'm constantly just like copying
Speaker 2: and iterating. So I saw some pretty amazing guys that
Speaker 2: I want to be lego, and I took it.
Speaker 3: Do you wear pants on a skirt?
Speaker 1: Surely? No, Mickey, your pants on a skirt surely? So Codd.
Speaker 5: I think it's because I wear wide leg pants, okay, okay,
Speaker 5: and so putting wide leg pants under a skirt is difficult.
Speaker 5: I don't actually own any like yogre.
Speaker 1: A flowy skirt on top of a flowy pant. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's almost a bit Isha coded? What ishcar coded?
Speaker 3: You have ishkar and Sydney?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that kind of like spell Barren Bay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like the early two thousands version got it
Speaker 3: a bit evanescence coded as well. I have a pair
Speaker 3: of really like thin cargo pants that I wear underneath.
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, and they work quite well with the current dress.
Speaker 3: I've got a little holiday to label dress on. But really,
Speaker 3: you do have to and choose your battles. I'd say
Speaker 3: go to Glebe Markets on a Saturday morning, okay. Lots
Speaker 3: of flouncy dresses that are easily incorporated into the pant life.
Speaker 1: So its Glee markets closed or not closed.
Speaker 3: It's not real.
Speaker 1: It exists and you can go and understand it exists.
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