1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Chloe here, founder of the Female Athlete Project. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: We're having a couple of weeks off from The Wrap, 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: our weekly women's sports news podcast, while our producer Bailey 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: and Bez, who looks after all our research and logistics Fativat, 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: are both overseas, actually on holidays in the US. But 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to share this incredible interview that I did 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: last week with ultra marathon runner and pain scientist Donna Urkhart. 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: She is actually about to embark on a huge challenge. 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: She's going to attempt a Guinness World record running the 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: longest ultra marathon in a polar region in history. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: So she's going to be at. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Union Glacier Camp in Antarctica, the coldest, windiest and driest 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: desert on Earth. 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: From the fourth of December. 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: She's going to be running through winds of up to 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: one hundred kilometers an hour and using all of her 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: mental and physical strength to try and achieve this challenge. 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: It's absolutely incredible. Wishing her the best of luck, but 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: check out this interview. It's a really powerful chat and 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: some really incredible parts in there about her work as 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: a pain scientist as well. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: So I hope you enjoy it. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Dona, Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. Can you tell 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what you are setting out 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: to achieve? 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: Well, thanks, Chloe, thanks for having me on today. 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 4: I'm setting out to go to Antarctica in December, and 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: I'm aiming for a world record attempt for the longest 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: run in a polar region, so aiming to run thirteen 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: hundred kilometers and I've got thirty days to do it. 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: How did you come up with the idea to do 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: something like this? 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: Really good question. Lots of people ask me that look the. 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: Like. To be honest, I've always wanted to do a 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 4: big adventure. I've always been a fan of going along 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: and seeing other people and hear about their adventures and 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: expeditions like I've gone and spoken to jess Jessica Watson 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 4: and also. 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: Justin Jones and people that have done amazing adventures. 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: But this actually came out of listening to an adventure 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 4: podcast and hearing people's amazing tales in Antarctica, and then 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: from that. 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: Being an ultramarathon runner saying look, has anyone ever run 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: in Antarctica and. 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: Just then going in explore, exploring and seeing if anyone 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: had done it before, and no one has attempted the 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: longest run in a polar region. 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: How does it What does it look like day to 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: day in terms of physically doing the run? 50 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I I'm planning to sort of attack it 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: like a workday where I get up in the morning, 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: I have breakfast and get all organized and set off 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: reasonably early, set off maybe around seven o'clock, and then 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: aim to try and get the kilometers done in that time. 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: And I'm aiming for fifty to sixty kilometers per day. 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 4: But obviously, Chloe, that will very much depend on the weather, 57 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: and Tactica is considered the coldest and windiest and driest 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: desert on Earth, So we could have temperatures down to 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: minus twenty or below, and we could have winds up 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: to one hundred kilometers an hour. 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: It's quite for what how do you prepare for that? 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: From an equipment point of view? 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: So we're actually been doing a fair bit of testing 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: about gear at the moment. I've been working with a 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: lady who's got a lot of experience, Cherry Horn, who's 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: been a gear tester for a decade. So we've essentially 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: been supported. We've been very lucky to partner with Mountain Designs, 68 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: and we're testing our gear in a shipping container. Have 69 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 4: access to a shipping container at a company called Titan 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: Containers and they do Arctic store shipping containers, which essentially 71 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: means that it's a refrigerated container. The container goes down 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: to minus forty, but we've only dropped into minus ten 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: because obviously we've got a treadmill in there and I'm 74 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: running on the treadmill but essentially putting our gear on 75 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 4: and testing that I can use it, that it's actually 76 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: achieving what we want to as well. And we've also 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 4: been training in a wind tunnel. So there is a 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: company in Melbourne where I'm based called Denzo and they 79 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: are a car essentially a car manufacturing parts company, and 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: they have a wind tunnel which produces winds. 81 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: Up to one hundred corners per hour. So just a 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, I was. 83 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: On the treadmill and training in minus ten a kilometer 84 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 4: our wind switch Chloe, I can tell you that is 85 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: quite an interesting experience. Probably the thing that I took 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: out of that experience was that if the conditions are 87 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: that significant, then you're probably and you've got time under 88 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: your belt. You're probably best in the tent. Yeah, you know, 89 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: keeping your energy and not not having to put yourself 90 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: under a lot of mental and physical load in those conditions. 91 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: So were you able to combine training with the wind 92 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: tunnel and in the cold shipping container or you're doing 93 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: them separately. 94 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: So we're doing them separately. So the shipping container raally 95 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: allows us to reduce the temperature and to test myself 96 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 3: in in that particular sub zero temperatures, whereas the wind 97 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: tunnel allows us a combination of wind and sub zero temperature. 98 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: So a combination of. 99 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that's incredible. And I was quite amazed to 100 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: read that you're a pain scientist. 101 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 102 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I work at Monash University. I'm a scientist 103 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: or a researcher, and yeah, we investigate as part of 104 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: our Essentially my work is understanding pain and how we 105 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 4: can best manage pain. 106 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: And how does that I imagine you've been asked this 107 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: before in your preparation. Does that impact you the way 108 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: that you might mentally prepare for what you're about to 109 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: embark on? 110 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: I think it does. 111 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: I think you know where all people aren't we and 112 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: we don't divide ourselves into our career and our sport. 113 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: So yeah, the knowledge that I bring in from all 114 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: aspects of my life, I think definitely influences how I 115 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: attack something. 116 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, some of the key principles that we. 117 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 4: Have evidence for in research I certainly bring into my 118 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 4: experience as an ultra marathon runner. And we've done studies 119 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: in ultra marathon runners at Monash and yeah, we experimented 120 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: to see whether ultra marathon has experienced pain differently to 121 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: healthy controls. So we actually ask people to do what's 122 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: called a cold press to test, where they put their 123 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: hand into icy cold water and they need to hold 124 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: it in for as long as they can. So generally 125 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: the human reaction to that is as soon as you 126 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: put your hand in icy cold water, you want to 127 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: take it out straight away. But what we found was 128 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: the ultra marathon runners were able to hit their hand 129 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: in longer, so they had a greater pain tolerance. But 130 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: we did some psychological tests alongside that, and we found 131 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: that the ultra marathon runners actually had. 132 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 3: Less anxiety and fear around their pain. 133 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: So I think for me, you know, all as humans, 134 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: we all experience to some level that fear and anxiety, 135 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: and I think recognizing that that's part of it, I 136 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: think makes a big difference. And so when I do 137 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: experience that, I think there's a level of acceptance that 138 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: that is there. And I think the other thing is 139 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: that we very much consider pain as from a holy 140 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: stick lens. So pain is not just about what happens 141 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: at the tissues at a physical level. It's also how 142 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: our brain interprets the messages coming in and that depends 143 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: on a whole lot of things, like what we're thinking 144 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: from a cognitive perspective, Yeah, how we feel emotionally at 145 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: the time. 146 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: What's happening in our surroundings. 147 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: So I think being aware that pain and discomfort is 148 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: not just physical and that I can influence that from 149 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: a whole other aspects, I think that makes a big difference. 150 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: Interesting what you touched on that idea of the acceptance. 151 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: It's something I went through my own journey as an 152 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: ongoing thing with anxiety and things always right, but that 153 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: idea of when you try and fight it, it almost 154 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: makes the anxiety and fear so much worse. But that 155 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: idea of acceptance is really quite a powerful thing. But 156 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: it's much easier said than done, isn't it. 157 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 158 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 159 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: I think I almost consider an ultra marathon race where 160 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: you go through a bit of a journey excuse me, 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: and I think you start almost fighting that and knowing 162 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: that pain and discompody is coming, but there's a sense 163 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: of wanting to avoid that. But once you sort of 164 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: step into that and accept it and sit with it, 165 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: then I think that's when it does become easier and 166 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: there is you know, it's still pain and there's still discomfort, 167 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: but you, yeah, you have a level of the fight stops. 168 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: You know you actually sit in it and can be 169 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: and can accept it and feel comfortable in that. 170 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: And your motivation for doing this is quite similar for 171 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do with the Female Athlete Project, 172 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: and there's some pretty concerning stats around the dropout rate 173 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: of young girls from sport. Can you tell us a 174 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: bit more around what you're trying to achieve with this 175 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: huge undertaking? 176 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I'd love to so. 177 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: Right from the start, Chloe, you know, obviously there was 178 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: a real want to explore what's possible for humans, and 179 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 4: particularly what's possible for females. 180 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: But we wanted this to be more. 181 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: Than a record attempt. We wanted to use this well 182 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: I wanted to use this as a way to help others, 183 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: and particularly to really educate and empower other females, because, 184 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: as you've touched on, fifty percent of girls drop out 185 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: of sport in their teenage years. And for me, sport 186 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: has just been an increable vehicle for my life, and 187 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: we know all the amazing benefits of sport from a physical, mental, 188 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: and social perspective. So I think it's really concerning when 189 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: we see those statistics and I put my research hat 190 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: on and sort of delved into that further, and I 191 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 4: think it's quite incredible to see that one of the 192 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: key reasons that girls drop out of sport is lack 193 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: of confidence in their own skills and abilities, And yeah, 194 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 4: I think that's something that we've got great opportunity to 195 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: change and to be able. 196 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: To implement strategies there. 197 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, we're really advocating for a holistic approach to sport, 198 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: where you know, girls and females go along and they 199 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: learn physical skills like how to kick a football and 200 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: how to throw a basketball, but they also learn mental 201 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: strategy years of how to deal with the various challenge 202 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: of sport that we don't want to take away that's 203 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: the beauty of sport. But I think there's the real 204 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: potential to equip girls and women with a toolbox of 205 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 4: skills so that they can overcome those challenges that come 206 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: at us, because I think they're ongoing to some extent. 207 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: You know, I've certainly, just in my journey to Antarctica, 208 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: I've certainly had a number of challenges myself, a number 209 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: of mental challenges along the way, and so I think 210 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: having that tool box of skills is really important. And 211 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: we've set up a campaign to raise awareness about the 212 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: issues but also raise funds, and we've got some really 213 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: wonderful charity partners on board that we're looking to support 214 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: through the campaign. 215 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely incredible what you're doing. You're obviously pushing 216 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: yourself to the absolute limits in the attempt to break 217 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: this record. The same time, you're pushing such an incredibly 218 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: important message for people who want to get on board 219 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: and follow you while you're completing this, can you tell 220 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: us how they can follow along? And then the second 221 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: part to that, if people want to support and donate 222 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: to support these charities. 223 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: That you're working with, how can they do that as well? 224 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 3: Yeah? 225 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: Thanks, Chloe, Look, we'd love people to follow us, and 226 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: we'd love people to support in any way they can. 227 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: Probably the key way people can help or follow us 228 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 4: is to go to our website. It's like the hub 229 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: of information on the projects. So the project is called 230 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: run Antarctica. So if people go to ww dot runantarctica 231 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: dot com, just remember there's two seas in there. Often 232 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: people forget forget one of the seeds. So yeah, it's 233 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: ww dot run antarctica dot com. There's a buttonee you 234 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: can donate if you'd like to our Facebook and Instagram links, 235 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: so they're our handles. Yeah, in terms of our socials, 236 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: our handle is run Antarctica. Yeah, we'd love people to 237 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: follow us along the journey. 238 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, And I'll put the link in our show 239 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: notes as well so people can click on that in 240 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: case they get the spelling wrong. Thank you so much 241 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: for your time, Donna, and wishing you the absolute best 242 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: of Like we can't wait to follow along and be 243 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: supporting you from afar. I think it's absolutely incredible what 244 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: you're doing, so congratulations on the drive and determination that 245 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: you have as a person. It's quite amazing. 246 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Choie, and look, thanks for having us 247 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: on and I guess our team would also like to say, 248 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: we just think you are doing a brilliant job, and yeah, 249 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: we were really excited to be partnering are working with 250 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: you in terms of getting. 251 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: The word out any empowering females in sports. So thank 252 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: you for that. 253 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That's really kind, Thanks so much 254 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: for listening. 255 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: If you got something out of this episode, I would 256 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: absolutely if you could send it on to one person 257 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: who you think might enjoy it. Otherwise, subscribe, give us 258 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: a review, and make sure you follow us on Instagram 259 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: at the Female Athlete Project to stay up to date 260 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: with podcast episodes, merch drops, and of course news and 261 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: stories about epic female athletes.