1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: We know that the Northern Territories Anti Corruption Commissioner has 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,039 Speaker 1: broken his silence so over allegations of domestic violence, rejecting 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: accusations made by his ex wife and vowing to return 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: to his job. The Independent Commissioner against Corruption, Michael Richards, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: has been on indefinitely since his ex wife, Jennifer Riches, 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: went public with allegations that she'd been subjected to emotional 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: abuse during their nine year marriage. Mister Richards has provided 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: a lengthy written statement exclusively to Sky News. Sky News 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Bureau chief Matt Cullingham joins me on the line. Good 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: morning to you, Matt, Katie. Matt, what has mister Richards 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: had to say following the allegations by his ex wife. 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think there are a couple of things that 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: are pretty important that he wanted to get on the records, 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: and accusations that he didn't make the proper disclosures around 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: this matter. 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Occurred. 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: So what is detailed in his statement and what he's 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: also confirmed by providing the documentary evidence is that he 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: did immediately report this matter to both the office of 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: the then Chief Minister, Natasha Phile than to the Ikak Inspector. 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: There's been some reporting that suggested that he failed to 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: do that. He failed to do that in an attempt 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: to hold on to his job. Well, what his statement 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: says and what the documentary evidence confirms, is that immediately 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: when he was served with his application for domestic violence 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: order on the nine eighth of May last year, he 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: emailed Gabby Mappis, the chief of staff of Natasha Philes, 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: the Chief Minister at the time, and sort of meeting 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: she replied, A meeting was confirmed for three pm the 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Subsequently canceled that meeting after that matter was 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: resolved out of court. Those issues have been well intelate. 32 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: But he also confirmed and provided documentation that showed that 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: the day after he was served with that application. So 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: it was served to him on a Friday evening, but 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: he immediately emailed Gaby Mappers. The very next day, he 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: emailed the inspector and the iach, Bruce McClinton, and informed 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: him of what had happened and in fact asked if 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: he should resign. So, I think you know, one thing 39 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: that this statement has certainly revealed is that this idea 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: that he didn't properly disclose what was going on is 41 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: not correct and that's proven by the documentary evidence. 42 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: And that what did he have to say in regarding 43 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: the coheresive control and security cameras. 44 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, those allegations that were made by his ex wife Jennifer. 45 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: He says that those security cameras were all in the 46 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: home by the NT government and they were for that 47 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: very reason for security security that was required as the 48 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: IKAC commissioner, and he says that was what they were 49 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: used for. And he says that the inspector has told 50 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: him that his report has found no evidence of wrongdoing 51 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: in relation to his use of those camerasalvation that he 52 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: was using those cameras to basically monitor her as part 53 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: of his controlling behavior. So he categorically denies that allegation. 54 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: In regard to the broader issue of the domestic violence 55 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: and the controlling behavior that she has alleged, well, he 56 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: just says that he has a very different perspective on 57 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: those events. I think he was paying not to personally 58 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: attacking former wife. And he did say that he wishes 59 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: her well and that he hopes that that she's getting 60 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: the help that she needs. But he did say, you know, 61 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: and he made the point that he didn't want to 62 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: make light of the issue of domestic violence or of 63 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: the issue of sort of coercive control or that sort 64 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: of controlling behavior. But he does deny the allegation. He 65 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: says he has a very different perspective, very very different 66 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: view of what occurred in those matters. 67 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: Seems to have lost her there for a moment, Matt, 68 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: what was that? Just having some issues there with Matt 69 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Cunningham's phone line. We may have lost him. Can you 70 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: hear us? 71 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: Matt, Sorry, Katie, I can hear you now? No. No, 72 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: he was just saying that he didn't want to. I 73 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: was just repeating what I said before, that he didn't 74 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: want to basically get in, you know, to publicly detegrate her, 75 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: but just that he had a very different view, a 76 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: very different perspective. I think of the words that he 77 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: used on on the events as she had alleged them. 78 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: And Matt, has there been any indication from the IK 79 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Commissioner based on that lengthy statement that he's provided to 80 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: you to Sky News on what his plans are next? 81 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Is he going to be returning to work? 82 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: Well, he plans to, and he says he hopes to, 83 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 2: and he says he has important work that he needs 84 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: to do. Is obviously on leave at the moment, he's 85 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: been unwell. I'm not sure how soon he plans to 86 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: return to work, whether it's in the next couple of 87 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: weeks or whether it will be it will be longer 88 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: than that, but certainly that that is his intention. That 89 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: is his stated intention. He is to return to the job. 90 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: I think if people were of the view that he 91 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: might be considering his resignation, I think he made it 92 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: pretty clear at the moment that that's not the case. 93 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: And what of the situation regarding the request for spousal maintenance. 94 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is interesting as well, Katie. Obviously, there have 95 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: been reports that he paid his exif twenty thousand dollars 96 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: basically in return for her dropping that domestic violence order application. 97 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: He's basically set out in his statement a timeline of 98 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: the events and how they occurred. Now. He says that 99 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: these events have been began when she made a demand 100 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: for thirty thousand dollars and on the same day that 101 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: domestic violence application in the daral And Local Course. It 102 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: was subsequent to that that his lawyers then responded to 103 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: her and said that he would pay her twelve thousand 104 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: dollars plus one thousand dollars every fortnight for eight weeks 105 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: on the condition that he remained in his job as 106 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: the IACH commissioner, and pointed out in that letter that 107 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: if that DVO application was to proceed, it would be 108 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: almost certain that he wouldn't remain in his job as 109 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: the KACH commissioner. So that's the sequence of events as 110 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: they played out. And then of course she agreed to 111 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: those terms. That was more than twelve months ago. They've 112 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: since been going through a property settlement which I think 113 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: was resolved recently or close to resolved recently. And now 114 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks we've seen we've seen 115 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: Jennifer Rich has come forward publicly with some of these allegations. 116 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: Well, Matt Cunningham from Sky News, it is. It certainly 117 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: sounds like a bitter situation. I appreciate your time this morning. 118 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having a chat with us. 119 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: Why Katie, Thank you