1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, a luxury store is accused 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: of selling fake designer bags. Victoria Beckham Sparks, Spice Skills 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: reunion rumors, why Nadia Bartel is keeping her famous last name, 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: and how do we feel about influencers shouting their followers drinks, Hello, 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Amy 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Torba and Sophy. I've got a confession. I am so 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: jealous of everybody who's overseas right now, Kate being one 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: of them. I've just found finding myself vicariously living through 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: everybody's instagrams right now. I'm at the peak of my 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: winter depression at the moment, and I've been tipped over 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: the edge seeing some of Kate's Instagram stories because at 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the moment, the only heating that works in my house 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: is in my bedroom upstairs. So I swear my partner 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: and I were hibernating in one room and we keep 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: saying to ourselves, we need to go to the landlord 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: and say we're only paying for this one room because 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: we can't even use the rest of the facilities. It's 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: that bitterly cold. Yeah, I think you need a serious 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: chat with your landlord, Sophie. I don't know if you've 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: noticed this though. Everyone seems to be over in Europe, 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: of course, and there's this new trend that's popped up 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: called the tomato girl summer. Surely you're all over this, 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: I am, and I think that they really need a rebrand. 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: It's a terrible name. I don't think anyone wants to 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: be known as the tomato girl, because all I think 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: about is someone who's overseas getting very burnt, and as 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: we all know, suntanning is not a good cool thing anymore. 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't sound very aspirational, doesn't it, being 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: a tomato girl or what does it actually mean? What? 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: It all of course about the aesthetics, so it's a 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: very laid back, retro inspired Mediterranean vibe. So think about 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: people in sun dresses, women wearing silk scarfs in your 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: hair as you stroll around the streets in Italy with 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: a gelato in hand. People are also wearing lots of gold, 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: delicate jewelry, which I think you could get around sof 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: and it's girls sitting on their balconies over in Italy 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: reading books. Look, I can definitely get around this. I 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: feel like this is a vibe I'm going for for 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: my hen's party. Oh really, because I already know that 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: I could not pull off this aesthetic at all. It's 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: not my vibe. It's kind of all these aesthetics seem 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: to be all based on that clean goal look where 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: it's you're meant to be effortlessly clean. But all of 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of effort. I feel like, well, 46 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the capturing of it takes a lot of effort. Something 47 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: else that takes a lot of effort is the European 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: Summer Board, which I'm seeing everywhere at the moment, is 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: training on TikTok, and it's all about creating a mood 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: board of photos that you can use as inspiration for 51 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: when you're on holidays. So it's either photo ops that 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: you want to recreate or particular poses that you can 53 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: do with your partner, or the outfit. So people are 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: picking specific outfits that are themed to that country. Wait 55 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: a sec, So this is normal. People who are just 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: going on a holiday are creating boards of photos to 57 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: take that. Yeah, it's basically like a Pinterest board. So 58 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: you before you go on your holiday, you pick all 59 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the looks and the photos that you want to do. 60 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when most people go to Europe, 61 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: they suddenly start to think that they are an influencer. 62 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: We have spoken about this and our subscription episodes, and 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I have handed out some of my tips or etiquette 64 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: for posting online. But I actually think that these mood 65 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: boards sound quite good. I know it sounds quite conceited, 66 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: but I think if you're traveling on a holiday with 67 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: friends or families or your partner, I think that sometimes 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: a fun activity is taking photos. Well, I just want 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: to know what the poor partners of the girls that 70 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: are who are actually coming up with these boards are thinking, 71 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: because it's so hard to get your partner to be 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: in photos sometimes on holidays, and also all these outfits. 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: Having traveled Europe, the number one thing is it's so 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: difficult to actually find an iron. A lot of airbnbs 75 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: and hotels don't actually have them. So how are these 76 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: people getting their outfits so nice in the photos? Well, 77 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: my in laws they're currently in Europe at the moment, 78 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: they're there for four weeks and they've brought with them 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: a mini iron. Oh that's such a good idea. Yeah, 80 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: and I mean the whole thing though. I think that 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: people should have fun when they're overseas and they should 82 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: do what they want. But my only concern is when 83 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: you were spending all of your time considering the perfect 84 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: outfit to wear somewhere, and you're bringing multiple outfit changes 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: and you're not actually living in the moment and enjoying 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: your trip. You're just thinking about what the next buttter 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: opportunity is. Do you know what if I heard about 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: a guy and they had made one of these mood boards, 89 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: I would consider that a big ick. Yeah. I mean, 90 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: I can't really imagine my partner doing it. But I'm 91 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: not gonna yuck anyone's yum here because I know there's 92 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: a lot of men who are into fashion. And at 93 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you're having fun in 94 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: your trip, you've paid all that money, you can spend 95 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: your trip how you want. 96 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't have to answer this question, obviously, but I'm 97 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: just so sick of the question being thrown at me, 98 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: and I'm trolled with it all the time. 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: Nadia Bartel has clapped back at trolls who questioned her 100 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: about keeping her famous footy player ex husband's last name. 101 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: In a TikTok video, Nadia said she gets trolled daily 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: in her dms and TikTok comments and said she's sick 103 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: of it being thrown in her face. Here's what she said. 104 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: Fact of the matter is, I want the same surname 105 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: as my two small boys. I'm very traditional like that. 106 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't see why I personally have to have a 107 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: different name to my small children because my marriage ended. 108 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 2: I won't go into the details of why my marriage 109 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: ended now. 110 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: It's clear that Nadia abruptly cut the clip there, and 111 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm guessing maybe she edited something out, but her wording 112 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: is very telling. I don't know if you remember this so, 113 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: but when Nadia and Jimmy broke up, there were rumors 114 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: swirling around that Nadia had discovered text messages on his 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: phone suggesting he was cheating on her with a UK 116 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: woman called Lauren Manned, and he actually went on to 117 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: date Lauren, but they split in twenty twenty two, and 118 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: he's since gone Instagram official with a new girlfriend, Amelia Shepherd. Oh, 119 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm very aware of these rumors. Amy. I was very 120 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: invested at the time, and I can't believe it's been 121 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: almost four years since they broke up, and the fact 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: that she's still receiving comments about why she's keeping her 123 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: married name is just so unfair. It's her decision at 124 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: the end of the day. I think it's completely fair 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: if she wants to keep the same surname as her 126 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: two boys. It feels a little bit shamey to me 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: because I feel like people are trying to push this 128 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: narrative that Nadia is only keeping the name Bartel to 129 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: remain relevant. But I would argue that she's more relevant 130 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: than Jimmy right now. Yeah, that's the thing. If this 131 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: was just an everyday woman, I don't think that there 132 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: would be so much speculation or questioning as to why 133 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: she's keeping her married name. It would be understood that 134 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: it's clearly to have ties with her children. That being said, 135 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I can't even remember what Nadia Bartel's maiden name was, 136 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: so her last name was Coppolino. But she has been 137 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: in the public eye as Nadia Bartel for such a 138 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: long time that when I actually hear her name, I 139 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: don't think of Jimmy at all. I just think of 140 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: her in her own right. Yeah, she really has forged 141 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: her own brand away from Jimmy, even though they have 142 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: the same last name. I don't really even connect the 143 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: two of them now. I do love the fact that 144 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: she chose to throw some shade at Jimmy mean now TikTok, 145 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: because she has remained very quiet on the matter, even 146 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: though the media have been so unfair in their portrayal 147 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: of the divorce, because if you believe whispers and all 148 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: the rumors, it's quite clear that Jimmy Bartel cheated on 149 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: Nadia allegedly. Yet she has been cast as the villain 150 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: in all of these narratives because you know of the 151 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: white powder incident. It's always, oh, Jimmy, what a model 152 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: father he is too, when his children to the park, 153 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: when she's a marriage up, yeah, and when she's the 154 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: sole person looking after them now. Nadia continued on in 155 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: the TikTok to say that she knows a lot of 156 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: women out there might think differently to her about keeping 157 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: their married name, but she said for her, it's a 158 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: cultural thing and the way that she was brought up. 159 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: She did flag though, that she may change her name 160 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: when her boys get older, as she's always loved her 161 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: family name of Coppolino, and it was a hard decision 162 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: originally to change over to Bartel. So if you were 163 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: known as Sophie Hancock, say for thirty years and thirty 164 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: years time, and you've got a divorce, do you think 165 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: of one game? 166 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: But do you think you'd switch back to Torboro or 168 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: because you'd been known for so long as Hancock? It 169 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: would depend if it was professionally and privately. I think 170 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: if I had forged a career with my husband's last 171 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: name and a brand, I would be keeping that publicly, 172 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: but privately I might like to change it over, just 173 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't want to be associated if someone had 174 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: cheated on me or Fred had ended badly. You won't 175 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: have a cop? I know, thanks miss Joel Lunsley. I 176 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: what have a cop? 177 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Are you sure? 178 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: And how it's hart? No, I'm not going to take alright? 179 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: So like one, would you not have a truck? I 180 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: seen an old trend resurfacing on social media, so influencers 181 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: are basically shouting their followers coffee. So what happens is 182 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: an influencer will share a gift card on their Instagram 183 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: story and followers can then scan the barcode and purchase 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: a drink. I noticed this happening a few months ago 185 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: with a couple of UK influencers, and then this week 186 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: on a local front, I saw Georgia Richard's doing it. Yeah, 187 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: I saw her post, but I thought, oh, has the 188 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: coffee play sponsored her? Like, I didn't realize that she 189 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: was actually putting the money in herself. 190 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 191 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: So she uploaded a gift card from Starbucks with two 192 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollars on it and wrote thanks for being the 193 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: best friends ever. Your midday coffee is on me. She 194 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: then urged her followers not to be greedy so that 195 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: more people could get use out of it. I actually 196 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: like this trend because it shows that, for instance, Georgia 197 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: actually cares about her follow she wants them to have 198 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: some of her successes. Yeah. Well, it is a trend 199 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: that was really popular with OG influencers about seven years ago, 200 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: and it's when influencers were viewed as the girl or 201 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: boy next door and your friend, and it was a 202 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: really good way to connect with their community and feel 203 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: like they were giving back. I also think it's really 204 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: clever because a lot of the time influencers start losing 205 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: favor when their lives appear really separate to yours. Is 206 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: if they've got all these fantastic things going on. You know, 207 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: they've got a better house and your better car than you. 208 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: But if you feel like they're a friend that's shouting 209 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: you a coffee, you're like, oh, okay, cool, they appreciate me, 210 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: they appreciate me going on this journey with them. And 211 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: also we're going through this cost of living crisis. I'm 212 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: sure a lot of people could have, you know, just 213 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: needed a Starbucks coffee as well. I wonder if someone 214 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: just spent all of the money or how many people 215 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: actually benefited from two hundred bucks because it doesn't go 216 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: far in this economic crisis. How likely is it that 217 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: you happen to be on Instagram the moment that she's 218 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: dropped this You touched on the fact that you thought 219 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: that this was a sponsorship deal. I actually think it's 220 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: great branding for any potential sponsors who were thinking of 221 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: doing something or aligning themselves with an influencer in the future, 222 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: because it's a great way for followers to feel like 223 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: they're getting something back, and it's also then in turn 224 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: promoting the brand in sort of an organic way. Yeah, 225 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: because how many people would have gone and got their 226 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: coffees and then tagged Georgia in the post or also 227 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: those who missed out, they're probably like, God, I really 228 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: feel like a Starbucks by my own. Yeah. Can you 229 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: imagine the shame of going with the code and then 230 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: then being like, oh, sorry, it's actually out yeah, and 231 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh fuck, I've actually got to purchase this. 232 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: Just call me Molly foring. 233 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: When Molly May announced her engagement to Tommy Fury this week, 234 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: many criticized it for being too staged, because Molly was 235 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: glammed up and very appropriately dressed in white. However, Molly 236 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: has revealed the length that Tommy went to to make 237 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: sure the proposal was actually a surprise. Now, as famous 238 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: people do, amy, Tommy ended up staging a fake brand event. 239 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: So he and Molly's team created fake invites, fake emails, 240 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: and they even left fake notes from the brand in 241 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: the hotel room. I feel like that was a really 242 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: genius move. I want to know what was the fake brand? Yeah, 243 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: because imagine if she just started posting about this brand 244 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: and they weren't involved. I'm sure it was probably a 245 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: close brand that she works with. Well, Tommy's pretty clever 246 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: because remember over privacy concerns they've stopped actually sharing things 247 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: in the moment because of course their house was robbed, 248 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: so they would have known. No, she can't actually post 249 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: anything about this fake event. Yeah. Now, Molly said that 250 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: everyone played along so unbelievably well. She said, I've never 251 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: known a surprise to be pulled off like this. I 252 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: was completely and utterly fooled. Now, she said that she 253 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: knew something was up when they pulled up to the 254 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: fake event and Tommy jumped out of the car and 255 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: ran off. Molly was then handed a letter and realized 256 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: that something was up. Do you feel like she's having 257 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: to put out there that this was actually a surprise. 258 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: Do you do a bit of the backlash? Yeah? I 259 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: think she really wanted to set the record straight because 260 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: Tommy had put so much effort into it. If it 261 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: was me, i'd want people to know No, he actually 262 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: went to so much effort to make this a surprise. 263 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I think the reason that people 264 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: love them so much is because of their authentic love story. 265 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: And despite the fact that they've so rich and their 266 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: lifestyle isn't relatable to us at all, we still buy 267 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: into it, and so we want to believe that the 268 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: proposal was genuine and a surprise. So remember people were 269 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: actually questioning whether it was a true love story back 270 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: on Love Island because they didn't even win their series. God, 271 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: that was a joke. It was Amber Gill who won 272 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: with that Irish guy. They're clearly not together. I think 273 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: they lasted like a month, yeah, if that, I think 274 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: it was a few weeks. The UK public got it 275 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: wrong well. Many fans are saying that Molly predicted her 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: own future when she was on Love Island. So following 277 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: the announcement, Molly shared a photo showcasing her enormous ring 278 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: alongside a video of her and Tommy on Love Island. 279 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: So in the video, Molly says to Tommy, just call 280 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: me Molly Fury. So her comment section was flooded with 281 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: young girls congratulating her and saying she had manifested the engagement. 282 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: I wonder how long she was holding onto that clip 283 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: for I feel like it would have been sitting in 284 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: a folder, just waiting to go. I've also seen another 285 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: clip on TikTok doing the rounds where it was Tommy 286 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: and Molly were doing one of those carve logs and 287 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: she was saying, oh, when are you going to propose 288 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: to me, and he's like, why would I tell you 289 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: what I'm going to propose. It needs to be a 290 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: complete surprise. You need to get off my back about it, basically. Yeah. Now, 291 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: whilst details about the engagement ring haven't been officially confirmed, 292 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: there have been a number of diamond experts that have 293 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: been speaking to the media, with one saying that the 294 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: ring looked to be a whopping ten carrots god and 295 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: is valued between seven hundred and fifty thousand to one 296 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: million dollars. I don't want to be cynical, because I 297 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: do love Tommy and Molly, but that's not going to 298 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: be good for them having that price tag around her 299 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: engagement ring, especially following the robbery. Yeah, that's the thing 300 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: because after the robbery, they made a big point of 301 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: saying that they didn't find value in luxury items anymore, 302 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: and they didn't choose to replace a lot of those items. 303 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: And we saw with Kim Kadash, who also went through 304 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: a Paris robbery, that it's not a good idea to 305 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: be flashing these things online. But then again, why shouldn't 306 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: she be able to enjoy a beautiful engage y. She 307 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: should be able to enjoy it, but I often think 308 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: when you see these celebrities with massive rocks on their fingers, 309 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: it does make them a huge target. Can you imagine 310 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: what the insurance policy is after everyone gets engaged, You're like, oh, fuck, 311 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: better put it on the insurance policy. That'd be out 312 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: of control and inspiring. History of one of the most 313 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: enduring star icons of all time, me Victory Beckham. Victoria 314 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Beckham has fueled rumors of a Spice Girl's reunion after 315 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: sharing a video of her belting out one of their 316 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: classic hits during a karaoke session in Miami. In the clip, 317 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: which Victoria shared to her TikTok, you can see a 318 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: visibly drunk Poshion Becks dancing as Victoria sings say You'll 319 00:14:52,480 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: be there, Let's have a listen love now. I think 320 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: she sound pretty good because she has copped it in 321 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: the past for lip syncing and not being the best 322 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: singer in the Spice Girls. Really, I don't know if 323 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: we're listening to the same cliff. I I thought she 324 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: sounded quite terrible. I did think it was quite ironic 325 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: that she was only singing sections of the song because 326 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: her part exactly, but she didn't really have many parts, 327 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: did she? I think the real MVP in this video 328 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: is David Beckham because he is fangirling over Victoria. I 329 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: even saw him whipping out the Spice Girl's iconic peace 330 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: sign as he cheered her on. He looked hot as well. 331 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: They're definitely a hot couple, David Beckham. He's age like 332 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: a fine one he has and so was she. Now 333 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: what got a lot of people talking was Victoria's caption, 334 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: So she wrote warming up the vocals in Miami. More 335 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: to come with a finger on lips emoji next to 336 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: a microphone, so adding more fuel to the fire. The 337 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: Spice Girl's official account re shared the video, writing, once 338 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: a Spice Girl, Always a Spice Girl. Also so if 339 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: earlier this year, mel BT's in an interview with the 340 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Son that a reunion may be on the cards, She said, 341 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: we are planning on releasing a statement. What that is, 342 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: I can't say right now because we're just finishing off 343 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: perfecting what we're going to be doing together, all five 344 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: of us. But it's going to be something that the 345 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: fans are really going to love. What do you think? 346 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Do you think the Spy Skull's reunion is happening? I 347 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: think there could be something in this rumor, and I 348 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: think that Victoria Beckham is the key because in twenty 349 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: nineteen she did snub the Spy Skill's UK reunion and 350 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: she even went as far as saying not one part 351 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: of her wanted to do it and she didn't think 352 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: she would perform with the Spy Skills again. I mean 353 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: the fact that we're seeing her put out on her TikTok, 354 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: her singing to the Spy Skuls. Well, she would be 355 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: a huge draw card because she hasn't performed with the 356 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: group since twenty twelve, and that was at the Olympic 357 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Games opening ceremony in London. I remember that performance was 358 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: so iconic. I don't know if she sung much in it. 359 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: For a girl band, I don't think it's all about 360 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: the singing. I think it's the brand the Victoria Beckham 361 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: brought to the Spice Girls. So definitely, my concern was 362 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen that maybe Victoria had had a falling 363 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: out with the band, but Melby recently said that they're 364 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: all on good terms and that they actually have a 365 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: WhatsApp group together. I'm thinking the WhatsApp group has been 366 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: set up specifically for a World Tour. Yeah, I think 367 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: that there's definitely a lot of Easter eggs that they're 368 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: dropping here. Definitely. When I did receive this bag, it 369 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: was very evident to me, based in my personal opinion, 370 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: that it was not the real deal. Luxury store Cassette 371 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: has been accused of selling fake designer bags. Now the 372 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Australian store claims to offer luxury items at bargain prices. 373 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: So basically, you go on to the site, you'll see 374 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: a Gucci bag on the official site, you jump onto 375 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Cossette and will probably be five hundred to eight hundred 376 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: dollars cheap. When I first saw this story, I must 377 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: admit I'd never heard of the store before, so I 378 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: was thinking, is this some kind of like online dodgy store, 379 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: But it's not. This has a shop front in Sydney 380 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: at the Rocks as well as an online store. This 381 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: is a big story. Yeah, and this story has exploded everywhere. 382 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: So it was first broken by the national fashion editor 383 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: for the Sydney Morning Herald, who was called Melissa Singer, 384 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: and she broke the story after a month long investigation, 385 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: and after working in the media. A month long investigation 386 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: is quite long for some media organizations it is. That 387 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: just brought me back to working at today tonight, Like 388 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: when they do the promo, it's like the long investigation 389 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: and it just was a couple of weeks. Yeah. Well, 390 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: the story also got picked up by our old friends 391 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: at a current Affair, so they also interviewed a couple 392 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: of women who were claiming that their bags were fakes. 393 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: And one of those women was Melbourne mum Aaron, and 394 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: she wanted to treat herself to a designer bag after 395 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: the birth of her first child, and she'd never bought 396 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: a designer bag before, but when she found Cassette's site, 397 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: the prices seemed like absolute bargains, which I mean is 398 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: a bit of a dead giveaway. So she decided to 399 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: buy a Gucci bag. So she went to the Gucci 400 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: website and then got up Cassette's website and compared we 401 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: had the two because she already thought, okay, is this 402 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: too good to be true? But they matched up and 403 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: side by side it looked legit. Now on the front 404 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: page of Cassette's website it says authenticity Guaranteed. So she 405 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: ended up paying one five hundred and forty one dollars 406 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: for the bag. But when it arrived, she started having 407 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: some concerns because the dust bag didn't have made in 408 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: Italy written on it, but she thought, okay, no, everything 409 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: else looks fine, so she put it to the back 410 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: of her mind. She had the bag for two and 411 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: a half years before her friend also decided to purchase 412 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: from Cassette. So her friend, who was a fashion stylist 413 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: and owned several luxury pieces, she purchased a bag from 414 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the same site and when it arrived, she said that 415 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: it had this hideous odor coming from it and it 416 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: smelt like it had come from a factory. And also 417 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: the other giveaway was that the logo was crooked. Well, 418 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: that is a giveaway sign. This is just giving me 419 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: flashbacks to our time in Penang because we would holiday 420 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: there a lot, and we would of course by fate 421 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: as most people do when they're overseas, and the smell 422 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: that comes from those bags putrid. They should have sent 423 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: these bags to us. We could have immediately told them 424 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: if they were fake or not. Well, this did lead 425 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: to erin getting a third party to authenticate her bag, 426 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: and she alleges that she was devastated when the results 427 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: came back that it was counterfeit, So she ended up 428 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: contacting Cassette and sent the bag back. Now they responded 429 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: sending her their own certificate of authenticity and despite that, 430 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: they said, oh, you can have a refund if you 431 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: want it, which she accepted. So is the authentication process 432 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: the issue or are they actually knowingly selling bags that 433 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: are fakes? Well, that really is the million dollar question now. 434 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: In a statement provided to the Sydney Morning Herald, Cassette 435 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: insists that only sells genuine bags it obtains through authorized resellers, retailers, 436 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: brokers and license sees in Europe. The statement continued saying, 437 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: all of the bags we sell are one hundred percent 438 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: authentic and we take great care in verifying the authenticity 439 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: of each and every product we offer. A really interesting 440 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: layer to this story is the fact that they've actually 441 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: been using AI technology in recent times to authenticate bags 442 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: because the demand has been so huge. But what a 443 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of experts are saying now is that it's actually 444 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: safer to have it checked by a real person because 445 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: there are so many ways that people can get around 446 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the AI technology. Also that the AI technology isn't always 447 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: the most efficient way, and it seems like people manually 448 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: checking it is the safest way. So a lot of 449 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: experts are saying that you need a human to physically 450 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: go through the process of looking at the font size, 451 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: the serial number, the engraving, and even going as far 452 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: as looking at the number of stitches on certain components. 453 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: Here's editorial and how to do the viral AI makes 454 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: Me linked headshots trend. 455 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: Photographers around the world are feeling very nervous after seeing 456 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: gen zters in their droves, turning to apps like Remeny 457 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: and Canvas to create their own AI LinkedIn headshots. All 458 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: it takes is eight selfies and the AI technology is 459 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: a to create an array of professional, corporate looking photos 460 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: that many are using on their cvs. Now, Sophie, would 461 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: you use an AI produced headshot on LinkedIn or on 462 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: a resume? Look? I would never actually put a photo 463 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: of myself on a resume because I remember working at 464 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: a restaurant the owner would always laugh at any of 465 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: the girls who put their photo on. But I mean, 466 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I've seen these AI photos and they don't look real. 467 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: They sort of still have an element of cartoon to them. Yeah, 468 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: I know, they look so photoshopped. Everything's completely smoothed out, 469 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: the hair looks fake, and a lot of users are 470 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: also reporting that the finished product shows them significantly slimmed down. 471 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: So one woman told the ABC the app made her 472 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: look thirty five kilograms lighter. I really feel like this 473 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: is just another form of technology that's been programmed to 474 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: make us feel bad about ourselves. I mean, it's just 475 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: like filters. People aren't gonna want a genuine photo of 476 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: them up on their LinkedIn profile. Well, what's more disturbing 477 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: is that if you think about filters, they've always just 478 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: been on social media. Now it's like the infiltrate our 479 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: work life as well. I mean, can you imagine if 480 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: you sent in an AI photo of yourself to an 481 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: employer and then you rocked up for the job to 482 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: be looking completely different. Well, most of these jobs are 483 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: working from home jobs, so maybe it works, okay. I 484 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: mean what's the difference though, with a lot of middle 485 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: aged men, let's say, for instance, using really old photographs 486 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: of themselves on LinkedIn? Because I say that happening quite 487 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, say, we're walking through all the dumb 488 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: things my husband dead when I was in labor. A 489 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: new mum has gone viral for making a list of 490 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: the dumb things her husband did when she was in labor. Now, 491 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: the woman in question is TikTok At Jenna Christie, and 492 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: she's built a following for herself after sharing about married 493 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: life and now motherhood. Are you ready for this list, Amy, 494 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: because it does get quite shocking. I am ready now. Firstly, 495 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: she made the list in chronological order, and she even 496 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: time stamped it. It shows how pissed off she must 497 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: have done it. Here now to painting the picture. Christie's 498 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: water broke at two pm, and by six pm things 499 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: were slowlyked kicking along, and her husband proceeded to ask 500 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: her what was for dinner? Are you serious? Yeah? So 501 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: he wanted his dinner made for him now while she's 502 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: in mid labor. Yeap, that's right. He couldn't get off 503 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: his ass and make some dinner or get some takeaway. 504 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it was probably at this point she was maybe 505 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: regretting her decision to get pregnant to this man. Yes, 506 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: I think so. There's a lot of red flags during 507 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: this list. Now, by nine pm, she said that she 508 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: was feeling so unwell that she felt like she needed 509 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: to throw up, so she asked her husband if he 510 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: could get her a bowl he proceeded to bring up 511 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: the dog's bowl for her to be sick in. Surely 512 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: everybody has remember back in the day, you'd have that 513 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: old plastic bowl, the vomit bowl that would be sitting there. 514 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: It would either have vomited it or it would have 515 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: chips in it at a party. I also want to 516 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: spare a thought for the poor dog. Why is the 517 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: dog's bowl being used? It makes absolutely no sense. Now. 518 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: By one am, they were on their way to the 519 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: hospital and her husband decided to take the scenic route 520 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: just so that he could enjoy the drive. No, let's 521 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: put into perspective. This woman is nauseous, she's in active 522 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: labor and in immense pain. And this husband, it seems 523 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: like he's deliberately trying to delay the trip to the 524 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: hospital just so he can go the nice way to 525 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: the hospital. Wait, is this their first pregnancy? Yes? What, yeah, 526 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: this is insanity. Now. When they arrived at the hospital, 527 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: Christy was delirious and she described it as feeling as 528 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: though she was black out drunk. Now, her husband was 529 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: taking photos during the labor and he decided to send 530 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: these photos to the group chat. This is what Christy said, 531 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: But later I look at these photos. I'm titso like 532 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: just boo boobies. Booby's setting pictures of my boobies to 533 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: my dad and like I don't really care. I know 534 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful moment, but still I'm like, did you 535 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: look at these before you sent them? Like this was 536 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: a group chat? This is utterly mortifying to me. I'm 537 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: a really private person, and I know that a lot 538 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: of people say that when you're in labor you don't care. 539 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: Your clothes just come off. But that being said, you're 540 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: choosing who out of your relatives in the room, and 541 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: you're surrounded by professionals. No one's dad is there while 542 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: they're naked giving part I would feel incredibly uncomfortable if 543 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: this private moment, when I'm incredibly vulnerable is being snapped 544 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: and then sent to my dad in a group chat. 545 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: We leave the group chat. Yeah, just thumbs up. And 546 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: just like we were having this chat the other day 547 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: about would you rather have your partner or your mum 548 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: or your sisters or whatever in the birthing suite. The 549 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: more I hear this, I think everyone just needs their mum. Yeah, 550 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I oh I say this, 551 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: I do want my partner in the room, but we 552 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: joke that he'll probably faint and be more difficult than me. 553 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine. He needs to be like the old 554 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: school thing where they sit outside and just wait to 555 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: get the all clear. Yeah, I think I want you 556 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: guys in there. I don't know. I would like you 557 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: guys holding my hands. You guys to bitch too. Mona, 558 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: your pain threshold is very low. I can just imagine 559 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: it'd be like one sort of contraction. You'd be screaming 560 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: my laser. Lady says, I've got great pain threshold. Yeah. Now, 561 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: by eight am, when she'd had the baby, it was 562 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: time to leave the hospital. She was only there for 563 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: eight hours. The staff said you need to eat something, 564 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: so Christy said, don't worry. I have a protein bar 565 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: in my bag. I'll have that. So she's getting this 566 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: protein bar out and her husband says, can I have 567 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: half of that? Fuck off? Why is this asshole not 568 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: going out and getting her some breakfast after she's just 569 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: given birth and then proceeding to steal the snacks that 570 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: she packed. I'm guessing there's no push present. Then fuck me. 571 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: That is actually horrendous, Like, I cannot believe that is 572 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: a real life story. Oh well, she has since removed 573 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: the video due to the BlackFlash. I mean, I'm guessing 574 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: her husband asked her to take it down because it 575 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: didn't paint him in a favorable light. Now, even that 576 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: this video has been taken down, it's going viral at 577 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: the moment because people are reposting it and making stitch 578 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: videos to it, And there is fierce debate raging in 579 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: the comment section about whether women should tolerate stupidity from 580 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: their husband, and multiple commenters have told Christy to run, 581 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: whilst others said they could never get over all of 582 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: these red flags. I have heard of other instances where 583 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: husbands have been fucking annoying during the labor process. But 584 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: I also wonder, like, is it just that they are 585 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: annoying or that you know your hormones are really strong 586 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: in that moment as well. But I don't think this 587 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: is hormones. No, not in this scenario. But I've heard 588 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: of a scenario where apparently someone's husband had eaten a 589 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: sandwich and just the smell on their breath was enough 590 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: to be like fuck off, like get out of the room, 591 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: like I can't stand it any longer. Subway breath is disgusting. 592 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if this man had a subway. Well, 593 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: the thing is, you'd been so much pain and you're 594 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: sort of looking at your partner like you put me here, 595 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: you did this to me, this to me. Well, I 596 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: think that's where we're going to leave it today. We 597 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: hope you have a lovely weekend. If you have enjoyed 598 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: today's show, could you please make sure you are subscribed 599 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: on Apple podcast and also Spotify. And we also have 600 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: so many influencer deep dives that are live on our 601 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: subscription series which you can join on Patreon and also 602 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. 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