1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Earlier in the week the Member for Goider, the independent 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Member for Goid, Kezia Puric, She actually introduced a private 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: member's bill. Now, this is in relation to youth, to 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: the Youth Justice Act, So when a young person commits 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: a crime, it will be mandated that they go into 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: a diversion program rather than a verbal or written warning 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: that they currently receive. Currently, the young criminal or responsible 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: adult have to agree to that diversion program. Kezia says, no, 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: enough's enough. The current system isn't working. Kezier joins me 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: on the line right now, Good morning, Kezia Puic, Hey. 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie. Good wanting to do all Bush people 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: listening and everyone else. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Now and why did you decide to do this enough? 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've been working on it for some time 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: and along the way, you know, when you do a 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: private members bill or something like this, you talk with people. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: So I have spoken with people. I spoke to the 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: Police Association and to get their views, and I've said 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: a couple of small nngos, and I've spoken extensively across 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: my electorate to think, you know, to people who sort 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: of know about these things, and you don't have an 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: educated view shall we say it's not quite quick. I'm 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: not taking away the ability for police officers to give 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: a verbal or vision warning that can That still stands 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: like it might be a minor indiscretion on the youth's committed, 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: so sure a good talking down by a police officer 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: might set them on a straight path. What it's about 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: is the going into youse diversion, which may just be 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: what a lot of these young people need. It's voluntary, 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: so the kid has to agree to it and the 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: responsible adult, whatever that means these days. It since we've 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: splashed around pretty easily, they have to agree to it 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: as well. And look, come on, let's it's these are 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: you know, serial offenders. They're not going to say nah, yeah, 35 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: I'd love to go into the use other versions no 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: rubbish exactly. And it does make it hard for the 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: police officers. But the Police Association said yes, they'd welcome 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: these kind of changes because it is so difficult for police. 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 2: They pick up these kids, they give them a written 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: or a verbal warning, and then they go court, they 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: come out again and we know about it, like the 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: one that's been up twenty seven times or whatever it was. 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: So this is about enough is enough? It's time to 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: take a stand and really look at these young people 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: who are running a mut creating so much havoc in 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: our town, across so many areas, physical harm to elderly 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: people and young people, damaging of property, theft, stealing cars, 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: endangering lives like Katie, it's just gone czy, out of control, 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: going to be People will say, you know, all those 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: bleeding hearts out there, No, you can't make them do this. 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: You can't make them do that. You know, a use 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: of rights when I say bullshit, what about the rights 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: of the business peoples? What about the rights of Jason 54 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: Hannah to run a successful business and to employ people 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: in a safe and comfortable working place. So that's what 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: it's about. So I introduced it. So it sits on 57 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: the table for thirty days and in the next sitting, 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: which is in May, it may come up for debate. 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: I hope it does, but it's in the session where 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: opposition members and independent members do their business. So I've 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: sort of got it. 62 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Get it up first, so that's in May easier. And 63 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: what do you, I mean, what's the likelihood of the 64 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: government agreeing to this? Because you don't. We don't have 65 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: like you don't have the numbers, do you. So someone's 66 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: got to lie across the floor or actually come and 67 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: vote with you, don't. 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: They Well, I mean, Katie, even if it was a 69 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: good idea and all the exports that you could possibly 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: consult say that, yes, it was a reasonable idea, it 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: needs a bit of this, or it needs a bit 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: of that. Government will never support any good ideas from 73 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: the opposition, I believe because one they didn't think of 74 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: them themselves, and two they feel that they can't be 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: shown up for their inadequacy. So I will. I've sent 76 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: some information to the CLP members. I've tabled it a 77 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: tablet explanatory memo what it's all about. I did a speech, 78 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: so I think it's pretty clear what I'm seeking to 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: achieve the Parliatic Council draft of the legislation. For me, 80 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: it's only it's a small amendment or a amendment and 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: then subsequent amendments to make the child the young criminal 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: go into a diversion program. So clearly, if the legislation 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: came in a group of partners will have to get together. 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: Part parties, territory families use diversion people for example, you know, 85 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: police may be involved as well, and even some of 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: the nng o's like, I don't know, kids go into 87 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: care in various institutions around the town. So one it's 88 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: going to try, Katie, I'm just trying to agree a 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: bit of get a bit of a circuit breaking casey. 90 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: Most people listening would be thinking to themselves, and I like, 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: you know it was. It became so evident a couple 92 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: of weeks ago when we had the police minister on 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: the show and he, you know, he like he did 94 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: confirm that it's not compulsory for kids to have to 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: do this, Like it's unbelievable that you can go out, 96 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: you can run a mark and then not compulsory have 97 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: to actually take partner in any kind of program or 98 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: restitution process. 99 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Well, and also the responsible adult may say, yes, I 100 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: think that's I think that's a damn good idea, but 101 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: that little mungol kid will sort them out. I'm struggling 102 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: as a parent or care And then the kid can 103 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: turn around and say, now, budd you I'm not doing 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: anything of those thoughts and just go off and continue 105 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: to put crumbs around town. And that's just it's got 106 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: to stop, Katie, And I don't know how many times 107 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: people say this, including yourself. You know, enough is enough? Yeah, 108 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, and we've seen people die at the hands 109 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: of these you know, these criminals, whatever age they may be, 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: anything from you know, eleven or ten up to about eighteen, 111 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty. You know, it's just got to stop. Seriously. Yeah, look, 112 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: I agree about Katie. 113 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: Well, so Keasier. May May is when you'll be able 114 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: to introduce this and see how it goes. Well, it's 115 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: already been introduced, but the debate and we'll see. 116 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: How it goes correct, Right, I can keep you posting. 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, please do, and I know that everybody's going to 118 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: want to hear how it goes. I really appreciate you 119 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: having a chat with us this morning, Kezyer. We'll talk 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: to you again soon. 121 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Katie, thank you. See ya.