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<v Speaker 1>My heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen

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<v Speaker 1>live on the Free iHeart app A good pickup with

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<v Speaker 1>Britt Hockley and Laura Burn. Bady your work, our windows down,

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<v Speaker 1>My worldris in the dust.

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<v Speaker 2>Only good fabs are all down.

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<v Speaker 3>I've don't march, but yeah, I'm not our big get

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<v Speaker 3>and what I want it don't matter where.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the pickup, Hi, guys, it's the pick up

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<v Speaker 1>with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting discussions in my household Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>Burn, Oh, okay, full name is Yeah, No, I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how I feel about this. My husband Ben

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<v Speaker 3>is here, he's still here from Switzerland, and I thought

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<v Speaker 3>this was going to go down differently. I got an

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<v Speaker 3>Aussie stable and I was so excited to give it

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<v Speaker 3>to him. I went to the supermarket and I got

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<v Speaker 3>a caramel Koala. You know the Cadbury Caramela Coalers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we grow up with. To me, probably one

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<v Speaker 3>of the top notch chocolates. It's the perfo amount of milk, chocolate,

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<v Speaker 3>creamy caramel. It's in the shape of an Australian animal.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't beat it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so unimpressed by it. That I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how we're going to continue the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair because your husband's Swiss and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where all the good chocolate comes from. So he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, this is fatable because this belongs in a

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<v Speaker 1>kid's lunchbox, which, to be fair, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do like a caramel a kuala.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to prepoo it, but it is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a kid's chocolate. Once you have it again

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult, you're like, oh, why is it a

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<v Speaker 1>kid's chocolate because it's in the shape of a koala,

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<v Speaker 1>But why does that make a kid It's definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>kid's chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the perfect thing that you put in a

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<v Speaker 2>kid's lunchbox.

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<v Speaker 3>That and also a Fredo Frog. Yeah, no, Fredo Frog.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a kid's Fredo Frog's are overrated. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>caramel in the middle. You can't just have like a

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<v Speaker 3>solid block. Nah, I'm all for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I I wouldn't say I'm in an argument now. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not in an argument with my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just started doing something of a night time that

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<v Speaker 1>he says he can't change. But it's only a new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he can't change it. It's keeping me up

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<v Speaker 1>all night. I'm already dealing with pregnancy insomnia, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how.

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<v Speaker 2>To fix this.

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<v Speaker 4>Sleep talking, sleepwalking. I wish he was sleepwalking.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you would sleep walk into the other room,

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<v Speaker 1>go sleep in the other show.

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<v Speaker 4>Sleepwalk to another continent.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No, I love my husband Deally.

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<v Speaker 1>He's wonderful. But he does two things right. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I get woken up a lot during the night. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, pregnancy insomnia is really hard to deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just awake, lying there thinking about my own thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Then also, we've got two kids who each of them

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<v Speaker 1>might wake up once or twice during the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fine. I can manage that.

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<v Speaker 1>What I can't manage is that now Matt has started

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<v Speaker 1>and both of these things have started at the same time. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>he sleeps with both elbows out like this, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to protect himself. So he sleeps with his hands

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<v Speaker 1>by his face and his elbows directly out like little

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<v Speaker 1>wing yep, So his elbows are looking me straight in

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<v Speaker 1>the eye. So I get I get elbowed in the

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<v Speaker 1>face several times a night. Interesting movesa really annoying right Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not the half of it. The new thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he started to do, and I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>know if anyone else's partner does this.

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<v Speaker 2>He just breathes, really really loud. No, it's full stop.

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<v Speaker 2>He breathes. Well, that's what he says.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, so now you're angry about me breathing whilst

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asleep. But it's not just normal breathing. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing a game of tennis. And I kid you not,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, I know exactly the client you're talking about all

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<v Speaker 3>through the note, but as a question, considering his unconscious

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<v Speaker 3>what did you want him to do about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's his defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that is kind of his defense mechanism, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is also what he says.

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<v Speaker 2>But surely these things don't just start.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an age thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he just it's like the second his head hits

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<v Speaker 1>the pillow, he starts with the paddle ball across howe,

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<v Speaker 1>Yet it's age.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>You answered your own question. Surely these things don't just start,

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<v Speaker 3>but it has. It's just started. He's entered the next

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<v Speaker 3>part of Life's seven Yeah, thirty seven, thirty seven gotta

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<v Speaker 3>lax jaws. It's basically forty, which is basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Up with eighty. That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>No, forty is halfway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard a lot of mixed reviews about like mouth

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<v Speaker 3>tape and things like that that help people sleep. Some

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<v Speaker 3>people rave about it because if he can't then he

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<v Speaker 3>has to breath out his nose. He's forced to, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not gonna wake up from it. He's not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>die in his sleep because his mouth taped up. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he could try some mouth tape and see if that helped.

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<v Speaker 3>But outside of mouth tape, you're at a loss, mate.

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<v Speaker 2>He yeah, he got.

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<v Speaker 1>Really defense about it, and he was like, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go sleep in the other room, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want him to do. I know that that's a solution,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm speaking that that was retorringable, Like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sleeping in the same bed as my partner.

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<v Speaker 1>I know for some people's relationship it works, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I would then I would feel bad and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna work well either. But I don't know how people,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? Do I wear ear plugs? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I tape his mouth? I don't know what to do

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<v Speaker 1>about the chicken wings, and it's really causing some tension.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be putting his arms down in his sleep, he's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna wake up. Just lower them down gently onto

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<v Speaker 3>his lap.

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<v Speaker 4>Or I guess you could tie him.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, like just wrap him up in robes so he's

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<v Speaker 2>Grace Protessa, Grace's face.

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<v Speaker 3>Just them was like right time in a little bow

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<v Speaker 3>tied to the side of his body mouth, tape him

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<v Speaker 3>up and then report back to us, let us know

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<v Speaker 3>what he does.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited for our guests on the show today,

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<v Speaker 4>Laura Henshaw.

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<v Speaker 3>She's one half of the Absolute Empire that is Kick,

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<v Speaker 3>which she hosts alongside and has started alongside Steph kless Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're talking like podcasting, fitness apps, they've got food,

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<v Speaker 3>they've got so much in it. They're absolute juggernauts in

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<v Speaker 3>the space. But we're not talking to Laura Henshaw about

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<v Speaker 3>that today. We're talking to Laura Henshaw today because she

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<v Speaker 3>has just announced she is in her second trimester of pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that might seem like everyone's like, Okay, cool, she's

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<v Speaker 3>having a baby. But I think what's interesting about this

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<v Speaker 3>is last year Laura released a mini series like a

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<v Speaker 3>podcast series titled Do I Want Kids, because she's always

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<v Speaker 3>been on the cusp of trying to decide what is

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<v Speaker 3>right for her, and she wanted to put out the

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<v Speaker 3>pressures that people experience when they are trying to make

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<v Speaker 3>this big, life changing decision. And I related heavily to

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<v Speaker 3>that because I've always been in the same space.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, Laura has made the decision to have kids.

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<v Speaker 3>She's on the show today. Welcome Laura, and congratulations.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, thank you so much, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that here are coming out of the trenches of

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<v Speaker 1>the first trimester, how are you feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>Much much better now? The first trimester, I think as well,

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<v Speaker 5>because you don't tell that many people, and also like

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<v Speaker 5>it's obviously so early, the embryo is tiny. I felt

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<v Speaker 5>so sick, and I also felt quite depressed, yes, which

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<v Speaker 5>was it was a lot, a lot to take in,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'd spoke to some friends about it and they

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<v Speaker 5>kind of said, oh, I didn't feel that, and I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, my goodness, is something wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, now I'm out of the first trimester, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>feeling alive again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you never know as well, because obviously your

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<v Speaker 1>hormones are going crazy. But do you do you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>whether or had you guys made the decision, Were you like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying for kids, or were you still a point

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<v Speaker 1>where you were kind of fluctuating between this yes and

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<v Speaker 1>no feeling inside you.

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<v Speaker 5>So we had made the decision we wanted to have kids,

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<v Speaker 5>but we were not trying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting. There's seen a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of conversation online about this, but you know, if I

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<v Speaker 5>was having sex, therefore I was trying to have a child,

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<v Speaker 5>Like people can, you know, say whatever they want to

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<v Speaker 5>say and make judgment on that. But we weren't trying

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<v Speaker 5>at the time. Like I was training for the London Marathon.

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<v Speaker 5>I was literally like four weeks out from that. We

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<v Speaker 5>had thought I had a laproscopy books in on the

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<v Speaker 5>fifteenth of May, thinking that we had to like in

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<v Speaker 5>Demitris is looking at that and kind of exploring a

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<v Speaker 5>few other things. So we definitely were not Yes, we

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<v Speaker 5>were not trying at the time. So it was a

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<v Speaker 5>very big surprise, but we had decided we did want

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<v Speaker 5>to have kids.

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<v Speaker 3>What has the conversation been like off the back of

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<v Speaker 3>doing a podcast series and been so openly vocal about

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that you are unsure and then coming out

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<v Speaker 3>saying you're pregnant, because I can imagine. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen a little bit of discourse around, which is a shame.

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<v Speaker 3>But what do you want to say to those people?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like people are making it sound like

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<v Speaker 3>once you've made a decision, you're not allowed to change

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<v Speaker 3>your mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's exactly exactly right, And I feel like both

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<v Speaker 5>of you would relate to this so much. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>not just with having kids on it having kids that

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<v Speaker 5>there's so many other decisions. But it's been really interesting,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't I didn't expect a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>to listen to the whole podcast series, but a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people, I think, saw a few snippets and thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't want to have kids. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the commentary has been, as you said, kind of saying, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 5>didn't you not want to have kids five minutes ago?

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<v Speaker 5>But I think while I didn't, we didn't change our mind,

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<v Speaker 5>like we actually just genuinely didn't know when we made

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<v Speaker 5>the decision that we did want to I think my

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<v Speaker 5>biggest response to that is just that if we had

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<v Speaker 5>changed our mind about a decision, that is life altering

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<v Speaker 5>for us and affects no one outside of myself and

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<v Speaker 5>my husband. It is completely okay for us totally change

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<v Speaker 5>our mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, I mean, the biggest thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>learned throughout my mind the hood experience is that the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are going to judge are going to judge anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who are going to have opinions on it

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have opinions. And I think the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is unless you kind of go into motherhood as this

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<v Speaker 1>sacrificial land where your kids are every single thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever wanted and nothing else matters, there's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some criticism. Whether that's because you're a working

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<v Speaker 1>mum or because you're still running businesses or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the juggle and the pressure on mums to do

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<v Speaker 1>it perfectly is so much greater than the pressure on that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's interesting that people have a go at you

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<v Speaker 3>for taking your time to do your due diligence and

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<v Speaker 3>work out what you really want, because if there's anything

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<v Speaker 3>that you need to work out, if it's a yes

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<v Speaker 3>or a no, it's having a life altering decision like

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<v Speaker 3>having a child.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh one hundred percent, I think the other thing is

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<v Speaker 5>And it was really interesting and exploring the mini series

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<v Speaker 5>last year, a lot of women said this to me,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think it was really awesome that they were honest.

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<v Speaker 5>They said that they at the start really didn't like

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<v Speaker 5>that I was doing this podcast series because they didn't

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<v Speaker 5>feel like they could make the choice for themselves. They felt,

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<v Speaker 5>we know, there's so much like we live in a

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<v Speaker 5>pernatal society, so much pressure on women like as our

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<v Speaker 5>well I don't believe it's our purpose in society, but

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<v Speaker 5>it is definitely a part of the kind of patriarchal

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<v Speaker 5>belief system that we as women should bear children, and

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<v Speaker 5>so a lot of women haven't felt like they could

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<v Speaker 5>actually think about it and make that decision for themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I think as well, sometimes when we see

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<v Speaker 5>someone like actually thinking about it, that can be a

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<v Speaker 5>way that we reaction. I totally understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I also think, I mean, for whatever reason, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously so deeply wrong, but there's a selfishness that's

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<v Speaker 1>linked to it.

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<v Speaker 2>We assume that if you don't want to have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there must be something about the life that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to live that's inherently selfish. And it's just those

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<v Speaker 1>two could not be further from the truth. But Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something that you posted the other day, or

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<v Speaker 1>it might have even been yesterday, and it was around

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<v Speaker 1>when you I mean every influencer posts like the happy

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<v Speaker 1>being on that you know, clear blue stick and the

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<v Speaker 1>two double lines and crying, and it's all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the same moment of happiness and joy. And I

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<v Speaker 1>resonated so much to what you posted. You shared the

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<v Speaker 1>moment that you've discovered you were pregnant and your husband,

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton was in the shower, and it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>very real moment that wasn't wrapped up in the absolute joy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was wrapped up in more I guess, shock, shock

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<v Speaker 1>and surprise and processing. What was I like for you guys?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, And I mean, thank you for saying that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the funniest thing. I didn't even think about it,

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<v Speaker 5>but everyone was like, why did your husband not get

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<v Speaker 5>out of the shower?

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<v Speaker 4>I was feeling and he was naked.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also processing yakes.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's right, and I think that's the thing. I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, we didn't have I can't actually remember if

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<v Speaker 5>we even hugged that day, like I'm sure we did

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<v Speaker 5>at some point, but it was in this beautiful emotional embrace.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's really interesting that thinking about that moment of

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<v Speaker 5>finding out if like that we were pregnant was actually

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<v Speaker 5>a part of the reason that I thought that maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I was undeserving of having children or I shouldn't because

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't think I was going to be emotional. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really glad that I realized that that's no reason

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<v Speaker 5>to decide to or not have kids. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 5>like for me, when I was shocked, I was in

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<v Speaker 5>absolute shock. As I said, we weren't trying. Even if

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<v Speaker 5>we were trying, I think it is always going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a chockr and you're not necessarily going to respond

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<v Speaker 5>in the way that you see online. And it's been

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<v Speaker 5>it's been really interesting, like very much the same as

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<v Speaker 5>your story. So many people wrote to me and said,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my goodness. I've always felt like something was wrong

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<v Speaker 5>with me because I didn't cry when I found out.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm so happy and I loved my child, but

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<v Speaker 5>I did I didn't feel emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's one reaction, which is shocked. When I

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<v Speaker 1>found out I was pregnant, I sat on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>and cried, not out of happiness. It was not planned

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<v Speaker 1>I'd not been with my partner for very long at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I was really worried about how he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to respond to it, because we knew we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have kids, but it was still early doors and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I sat on that bathroom floor by myself and bawled

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes out because my reaction to it wasn't elated

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<v Speaker 1>joy of motherhood.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, oh, my god, what have I done well?

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<v Speaker 3>Laura's I loved your response, Laura, that was like so

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<v Speaker 3>practical and pragmatic.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing he said was like, can I still

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<v Speaker 4>do the Lund Marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>Priorities? And you didn't do it?

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember you saying, what what what did you say?

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<v Speaker 3>You said, something's happening with my mind?

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<v Speaker 5>I said I was tired, which is true.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have struggled in that first trimester, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it's of course I.

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<v Speaker 3>That, like both you Lauras, are talking about the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that it's it's not the way that everyone necessarily thinks

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<v Speaker 3>it is, and maybe that your first impression isn't pure

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<v Speaker 3>joy in happiness, but that doesn't take away from the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that it's still something you.

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<v Speaker 2>Love and want totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think like, I mean, just in, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave it with that. I start on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor devastated and not round that one out. Becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>mum has been the best thing that's ever happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I could not love motherhood and being a mum

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<v Speaker 1>to my beautiful girls more. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone has different reactions when they find out, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone processes pregnancy very differently, and that does has no

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<v Speaker 1>indication on what type of mum you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to be, Amen Queen, it's so to true. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's amazing that you shared that because I've had

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<v Speaker 5>so it also messages and people saying I cried of

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<v Speaker 5>like sad tears because I was like, what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Of fear, and I felt like I could never tell

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<v Speaker 5>anyone that because I felt like it meant I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>love my child, when obviously that is not the case

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<v Speaker 5>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want to say to anyone listening that

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<v Speaker 3>is maybe a bit undecided about whether they want to

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<v Speaker 3>go down the journey of having kids, but they also

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<v Speaker 3>feel the time crunch from the biological clock and the

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<v Speaker 3>pressure asking for a friend as a thirty eight year.

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<v Speaker 5>Old old, oh, yeah, it's a killer. I think the

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<v Speaker 5>first thing I would say is that the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>you are thinking about it, and you mentioned this before, Britt,

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<v Speaker 5>it is a life altering decision is so important that

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<v Speaker 5>we put time into thinking about it. So the fact

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<v Speaker 5>you were thinking about it is so so so amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Go on the journey. And also just take that pressure

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<v Speaker 5>off yourself. I think when you feel the clock, it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my goodness, I have to make the decision. I

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<v Speaker 5>have to make the decision. But making the decision first

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<v Speaker 5>for yourself that is the most important thing. And then

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<v Speaker 5>you can look at Okay, what does this mean when

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<v Speaker 5>we if you do decide you want to have kids,

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<v Speaker 5>when we have to start trying, do we have to

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<v Speaker 5>freeze our eggs?

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<v Speaker 4>It is We could not be more thrilled for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, We were hooked. We can't wait to watch and

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<v Speaker 1>follow and follow the pregnancy journey with you. No, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just so exciteded for you. If you want to lie

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<v Speaker 1>stream the birth or watch that.

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<v Speaker 5>As well, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys. I have I have Marley May's birthday party this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>With kids' birthday parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Big bit massive, especially for kids school because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to invite all the school friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually haven't been invited to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're not a school friend. There's a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>politics involved.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an auntie?

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<v Speaker 2>You are? But no, that auntie isn't coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they get real specific when they get to

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<v Speaker 1>school and they pick exactly who's coming.

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<v Speaker 4>So now she didn't invite me.

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<v Speaker 2>She play on as you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Marley's old enough to choose her friends now and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make the cups.

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<v Speaker 2>So sorry, Britt, you can come over and why don't

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<v Speaker 2>I take that?

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<v Speaker 1>So pers you can have a juice with me instead.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, there is an Aussie mama who has absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>divided followers online and also has received a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>criticism for the very unconventional gift that she brings to kids'

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<v Speaker 1>birthday parties.

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<v Speaker 6>Have listen to this, so you know, when you're at

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<v Speaker 6>a kid's birthday party and everyone wants to help, but

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<v Speaker 6>nobody knows how to help because they don't know any

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<v Speaker 6>where any of the cleaning stuff is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I bring my bag of rags. I bring cleaning rags.

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<v Speaker 6>I like to bring dishwashing detergent because you can bet

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<v Speaker 6>your boots that the parents of may have run out

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<v Speaker 6>of dishwashing liquid. And the other thing I bring is

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<v Speaker 6>a lot a lot of tea towels. So that's my

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<v Speaker 6>presence for a kid's birthday party, A bag of rags.

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<v Speaker 6>Does anyone else do like that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but she doesn't get invited in many places, no

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<v Speaker 1>one else does that.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that day. Here's a bag of rag.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I saw this. I have a sneaking suspicion she does.

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<v Speaker 2>Not want to be invited to kids birthday party?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that this is so funny?

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<v Speaker 1>She's put this in place so that she never gets

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<v Speaker 1>invited to an six year old party again. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what will deter these little kids from inviting me?

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<v Speaker 1>A bag of rags, some dishwashing detergent, and some extra tea.

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<v Speaker 2>To look, let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Dig a little deeper here, let's give her the benefit

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<v Speaker 3>of doubt. She does say that she doesn't like to

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<v Speaker 3>bring gifts for kids that'll just end up in landfill.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is fair, Like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of people can get better gifts, like some money

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<v Speaker 3>in their trust fund.

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<v Speaker 4>Jane, don't give them something that will end up in landfills.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's something in it. Maybe maybe the family has

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<v Speaker 3>run out a detergent. If I run out a detergent

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh my god, where's the detergent?

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<v Speaker 3>And then Jane was like, I brought some.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be very grateful. Okay, I think you need.

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<v Speaker 3>To give something to the kid, lollibag, maybe like not

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<v Speaker 3>a bag of rag.

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<v Speaker 6>Hear me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have complex feelings on this one, because firstly, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so incredibly helpful, like we're having Molly's birthday at

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<v Speaker 1>our house, and it is so helpful when some parents

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, because usually now it's dropping go parties,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, so the parents just come, they dump their kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and then their kid free for two hours. I'm stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with them all and then I got to clean up

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<v Speaker 1>after them. So it's really nice when one or two

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<v Speaker 1>parents like stick around, help with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dishes, help clean up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think it would be very presumptuous to

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<v Speaker 1>think that I don't have enough cleaning products in my

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<v Speaker 1>own house to deal with the party that I chose

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<v Speaker 1>to put on.

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<v Speaker 2>In my home.

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<v Speaker 3>To be fair, I've never been to your house where

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<v Speaker 3>there's been a toilet roll, like it's always empty.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm wiping dishes with toilet paper. Well, who knows.

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<v Speaker 4>You do let a lot of things run out and

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<v Speaker 4>not replace them, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, what are you wiping your butt with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Tea towels? Obviously we have so many bath house No,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, part of me is like I understand the sentiment,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think it's a little bit too grown

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<v Speaker 1>up to be showing up to a kid's birthday party

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<v Speaker 1>and being like, you know what, nothing for the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>just a bit of morning Fresh and a bag of rags.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's actually people went crazy online.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's actually if we break this down, she's doing

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<v Speaker 3>a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But you need where she goes wrong is not giving

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<v Speaker 4>anything for the kids. She's actually doing wonders Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine if someone turned up to your house and I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got all the cleaning stuff. I'm going to help

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<v Speaker 3>you clean, you would be like, oh my god, thank god,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you have dirty kids. Over where she loses

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<v Speaker 3>her audiences by giving a bag of rags to the

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<v Speaker 3>six year old.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where like she's lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we really unpacked that and got down to

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<v Speaker 1>the nitty GrITT. If anyone wants to come on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send you my address. You can come with a

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<v Speaker 1>bag of rags and some morning fast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 4>You're inviting other people now, but I don't have an invite. Okay, cool, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I have a great have a great party, Miley

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<v Speaker 3>May and Laura. I hope you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>dishes and nothing to ape up with.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright. Well, that is it from us, guys.