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Speaker 1: your chief Minister. Morning Katie, Chief Minister, what are you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can I say, you know, absolutely horrific scenes Alice.

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Speaker 2: Obviously being briefed by the Police Commissioner, but a number

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, twenty three additional police is that in addition

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Speaker 2: Weight No, that is the twenty three that's the Territory

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Speaker 1: It's not enough, you know from the vision that it's

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Speaker 2: No, the Police commissioners, you know, said if we need

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Speaker 2: But all of that said, the police review will be

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, with the utmost respect to you, twenty three

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Speaker 2: So specifically around yesterday. So that was a particular incident

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Speaker 1: Not though you're not on top of the crime in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so again the police, if the police commissioner, that's

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, you're more elected. You are elected by the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I know that, but I know what my responsibilities

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Speaker 2: It's not up to a Chief Minister to tell them

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Speaker 1: Times commissioner to do that, sometimes the chief has to

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Speaker 2: It is appalling, Katie. We all agree it was shocking,

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Speaker 2: They will provide advice. They're meeting literally now. They will

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Speaker 1: What about you? What are you, as the chief minister

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Speaker 2: Katie. I have already had conversations with the Police Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: So you don't think that there needs to be any

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Speaker 2: These conversations around the federal police have been had previously.

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Speaker 2: The Police Commissioner will decide that.

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Speaker 1: But you know yourself, you're doing a review yourself. You

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Speaker 1: Yesterday things were out of control. People are you know,

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Speaker 1: We've got those twenty odd extra police. But the people

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Speaker 2: Well, Katie, that is absolutely as the Police Commissioner will

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Speaker 2: look into it. If we need to have more police,

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Speaker 2: he will allocate resources. That's what the police commissioner has

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Speaker 1: That's how it works.

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Speaker 2: They will continue to be on the ground to continue

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Speaker 1: Look, I'll acknowledge I've not spoken to the Police Commissioner

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Speaker 2: I've said that there is a whole of government approach.

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Speaker 2: So Andrew Kirkman, who's the sea in charge of all

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Speaker 1: Chief Finister, can you guarantee the people of Alla Springs

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Speaker 2: I can't guarantee anything, Katie. These people are individuals who

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Speaker 2: need to be responsible for their own actions. The Alos

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Speaker 2: so they'll be out talking to those people telling them

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Speaker 2: what they need to do, which is either you know,

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely totally unacceptable behavior. They know that, but it

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Speaker 2: was a heightened situation around the emotions at a funeral

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Speaker 2: of this eighteen year old.

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Speaker 1: Can you force them back to their communities? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, like they just should not be happening. They

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Speaker 1: like we saw. No.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course people you can't force people back

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Speaker 2: their own safety because they're going to there'll be you know,

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Speaker 2: if there is violence, both parties can end up getting hurt.

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Speaker 2: So it's not then to have violence. But we also

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Speaker 2: and we can all understand that, but again, totally unacceptable behavior, shocking, horrific,

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Speaker 2: and I can tell you that the police on the

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Speaker 2: ground there and will continue to be very vigilant and

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Speaker 2: making sure that as much as they can that these

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Speaker 1: Chief Finnist, we are going to have to leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, Thank you,