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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jonesy.

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Speaker 2: Our next guess is one of Australia's funniest women. She's

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Speaker 2: back on our screens with season two of Fisk, one

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Speaker 2: of our favorite shows on the Telly Kenny Flanagan. She's created,

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Speaker 2: she's written, she's directed, and stars in this series, this

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Speaker 2: award winning series.

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Speaker 1: So obviously she's a big star on the streets. Have

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Speaker 1: you heard of a TV show called Fisk?

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't fisk fisk?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I remember that, I didn't like it.

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Speaker 4: Have you heard of a TV show called Fisk?

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Speaker 1: I know the actor it was, and he was.

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Speaker 3: He is one of the greatest actors in the world

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Speaker 3: and the greatest comedians. Kitty Flannagan, Now hello, Kitty.

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Speaker 4: Oh good morning. Isn't that the best promo?

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Speaker 1: And that was you asking the questions, wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: No, that's my sister. Oh, my sister does all the

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Speaker 4: socials and puts it together. But that is confusing people

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Speaker 4: do think, did you go around asking for show? But no,

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Speaker 4: that is my sister doing the doing the asking and

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Speaker 4: reveling in the fact that no one has heard her sis.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure she'd love it. That's what would do.

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Speaker 3: And congratulations because when I watched FISK, I just wanted

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Speaker 3: it to come back. When it finished, I was so pleased.

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Speaker 4: Ah, that's nice, thank you. Yes, we're thrilled that people

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Speaker 4: enjoyed it. We made it, didn't know what was going

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Speaker 4: to happen, and then yeah, it was just delightful. When

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Speaker 4: people kept coming up going, oh, I really liked your shelf,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, thank God for that.

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Speaker 2: But there's so many interesting levels to it. One is

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Speaker 2: the excruciating office politics. One is the strange nature of

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Speaker 2: your character, Helen. But also as a probate lawyer, there's

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Speaker 2: that rich seam of people's legal issues when they're dying

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Speaker 2: and wills and all that kind of stuff. How do

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Speaker 2: you come up with those storylines?

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Speaker 4: Well, that was kind of why we wanted to go

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Speaker 4: into that area because it's one of the few areas

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Speaker 4: of law that everyone will actually have an experience with,

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Speaker 4: because most people, when you see law shows on television,

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Speaker 4: it's all about going in and being defended for murder.

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Speaker 4: But most people don't commit murder, did end up in

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Speaker 4: court with the low end of it, even murdered, but

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Speaker 4: you will actually have to make a will at some point.

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Speaker 4: And there's also all these different aspects to it, Like

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Speaker 4: we looked at one where you inherit the copyright of

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Speaker 4: a play, for example. So we tried to kind of

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Speaker 4: keep it. We tried to keep it one step away

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Speaker 4: from actual death. We didn't want to just be dealing

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Speaker 4: with death. But there's a lot of interesting aspects to it.

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Speaker 4: And yes, everyone should make a will, and no I

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Speaker 4: haven't made one yet.

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Speaker 3: Practicing what you preach there.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: I went in to do it and I went, oh god,

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Speaker 4: it's really hard.

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Speaker 3: It is. We we went and did ours, and we

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Speaker 3: went for this trip. My wife and I went for

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Speaker 3: this trip, and we didn't have a will, and my

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Speaker 3: mother said, you've got to get a will before you

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Speaker 3: go on this trip. And so we went and we

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Speaker 3: didn't do the will. So I just wrote stuff on paper,

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Speaker 3: just leaving the stuff to the kids and my cart

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Speaker 3: or friend and stuff like that. And apparently that would

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Speaker 3: stand up.

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Speaker 4: It would, it would stand up. But what you would

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Speaker 4: be doing, tell you, because I'm in the same boat.

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Speaker 4: I send emails to my sister from the plane going

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Speaker 4: I think this plane's going down, but you get everything.

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Speaker 4: But what happens is it just means it's going to

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Speaker 4: take a much longer time before anyone gets their stuff.

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Speaker 4: You're going to make it a really difficult legal process

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Speaker 4: for them to actually get their stuff. They will get

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Speaker 4: it eventually, but I guess what are your key? You're dead?

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Speaker 1: Well that's another point, so.

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Speaker 4: I'm not really a good advocate for going and to

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Speaker 4: do a will. We do cover that in this season

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Speaker 4: as to why you should make wheel web just going, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: you know this person will just inherit it. That's fine,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, you're making quite a trauma for the people

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Speaker 4: you leave behind.

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Speaker 2: The cast you're supporting cast Julie, zamiro Marty, she got

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Speaker 2: Aaron Chen. Everyone is so droll and straight faced, but

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Speaker 2: do you piss yourself laughing?

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Speaker 4: Marty and I are the worst. I would say. Julia

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Speaker 4: is insanely professional and incredible. She does not break ever.

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Speaker 4: We did a bloop Is reel and she's not on it.

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Speaker 4: She just doesn't. If she does get the lines wrong,

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Speaker 4: she just gets them wrong as roles and they sound

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Speaker 4: right anyway, so it's like so no one notices. He

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Speaker 4: just continues and just presses on as rolls. Whereas Marty

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Speaker 4: and I when we're watching the blueper were useful with

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Speaker 4: each other and went, wow, we must have driven everyone. Man,

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Speaker 4: we're really.

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Speaker 3: We want to go home, and people are saying, and you, guys,

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Speaker 3: but I do like that.

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Speaker 4: It's all hilarious. And then you look at the crew

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Speaker 4: going yeah, yeah, god being funny about ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you're right. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: But Julia that when Julia does that bit about the

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Speaker 3: weekend you guys, do you have any questions for me?

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Speaker 3: And you just say no because I hate at work

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Speaker 3: weekend chat. That's the worst thing.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know, small talk. I'm so bad at it.

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Speaker 3: Monday bad at it.

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Speaker 4: Do you know I've once started someone if they liked

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Speaker 4: chip like that was all I could come up with.

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Speaker 4: At a party, I just said, so do you like ship?

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Speaker 3: Is that you? Is that your go to small talk?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I just never know what to do, and I understand.

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Speaker 4: I think the good thing about me is I know

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Speaker 4: I am the person at the party that people want

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Speaker 4: to get away from. You know, people always talk about

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Speaker 4: that person where you're going, Oh, I couldn't get away

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Speaker 4: from it. And I always give people an out. I go,

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Speaker 4: look if you need to go and get a drink,

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Speaker 4: like I always give them the options like, please save yourself,

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Speaker 4: get away from me. I've got no small talk.

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Speaker 3: But when you do that, people instantly will say, oh,

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Speaker 3: they want you to hang around.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think with you, there's an expectation that expects

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Speaker 2: you to be funny, which is doubly socially awkward.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I've just got nothing. I just need to ask

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Speaker 4: better questions. I need to write a list of good

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Speaker 4: questions to ask people to make them talk, because I

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Speaker 4: don't mind a chat. I just want someone else to

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Speaker 4: do the heavy listing.

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Speaker 3: You want someone to be the Parkinson in the relationship.

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Speaker 1: You want someone to ask you about you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly it. You know what Amanda does she

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Speaker 3: if she wants to get out of a conversation. One day,

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Speaker 3: she's standing and I was there, and there's this other

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Speaker 3: guy there, and this other guy was starting to get

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Speaker 3: on Amanda's coat, and you said, wait right here, I'll

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Speaker 3: be back, and then you walked off, and then the

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Speaker 3: guy goes, well, I better do what the woman says,

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Speaker 3: and I said, see now he's going to it. And

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Speaker 3: then you came up to me and said, why is

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Speaker 3: this guy hanging around? I said, because you told him

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Speaker 3: to wait right here. What are you going to say is.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do the talking. I want to

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Speaker 4: ask questions and have someone else do the talking. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to rest, I don't I want to listen

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Speaker 4: rather than.

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Speaker 1: That's called working on sixteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: I question. Tell me about chips starting with cheese and onion.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's a good flavor. I think you should buy

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Speaker 4: it more often. You go in there and I never

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Speaker 4: get cheese, honey? Is any buypack after one?

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Speaker 1: You need to just say this makes your breasting.

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Speaker 3: Barbecue chips make your breast.

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Speaker 4: You have to eat them. Align You're right, it's a

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Speaker 4: home alone.

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Speaker 3: Chip and barbecue chips are punching well above their weight.

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Speaker 3: It's time for them to go. See if you can

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Speaker 3: we could hold the whole corner with this conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'll be right back.

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Speaker 4: Well. I ended up doing a podcast about it with

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Speaker 4: Dave ar Neil. I think we got into a corner

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Speaker 4: one day talking about chips and never stopped.

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Speaker 3: That was it, Kitty, It's always great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Season two premiers tonight nine pm on ABC I View

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Speaker 3: and ABC TV. Kitty Flanagan, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Oh thanks so much for having me guys, you're my favorite.

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Speaker 1: Oh we love you.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be saying that to Hamish and Andy

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Speaker 3: and everyone else next week, anyway, deal with that.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Thanks, thank you,