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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's forefront of the news as it should be,

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Speaker 2: the rise of domestic violence against women and now the

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Speaker 2: New South Wales government has announced a two hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty million dollar prevention initiative. What does this mean? Where

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Speaker 2: exactly is that money going to talk us through? This

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Speaker 2: is the Minister for Women, Jodi Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Good morning morning, Amanda.

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Speaker 2: So two hundred and thirty million dollars, can you specify

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Speaker 2: what your directives have been as to where this should go?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we have. This is actually the first phase of

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Speaker 3: what is going to be an ongoing series of improvements

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Speaker 3: that we're making to the support that we give domestic

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Speaker 3: and family violence victims, survivors and also dealing with perpetrators effectively.

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Speaker 3: So the two hundred and thirty million dollar package goes

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Speaker 3: to crisis response forty eight million dollars to improve the

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Speaker 3: supports that we give to victim survivors so that they

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Speaker 3: can stay in their homes safely with technological improvements and

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Speaker 3: security upgrades. We're going to improve the justice system for victims.

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Speaker 3: We're going to put thirty eight million dollars into New

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Speaker 3: South Wales's first dedicated prime prevention strategy. That's a really

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Speaker 3: key part because we haven't been doing that in New

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Speaker 3: South Wales and.

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Speaker 1: Minister a minister just with that.

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Speaker 4: So the bail laws, that is probably the most that's

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Speaker 4: the glaringly obvious things. What money would go into the

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Speaker 4: bail laws because I think most people just don't understand

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Speaker 4: how a serial offender.

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Speaker 1: Can beat up a woman and then get released on bail.

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Speaker 4: In what world is a judge thinking, or the court

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Speaker 4: register or whoever's doing it is thinking, well, that's okay,

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Speaker 4: and to let this guy back out of the community.

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Speaker 4: So that money, I would say as a layman here,

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Speaker 4: would be going into strengthening our bail laws, or perhaps

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Speaker 4: if there's not a a court judge in regional areas

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Speaker 4: on a weekend, getting one in there so he can

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Speaker 4: lock these bastards away.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that is a totally legitimate question that people

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Speaker 3: have and it's actually a question that we have as

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Speaker 3: government as well. So there's a review currently underway, but

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Speaker 3: we have put aside forty five million dollars to improve

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Speaker 3: our justice system responses domestic violence, and that will include

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Speaker 3: any changes that need to be made in relation to bailaws.

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Speaker 2: I do a podcast with a forensic psychologist, and she

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Speaker 2: said that she's forever. Her job is to work with

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Speaker 2: these offenders, and she said, what we're doing is pulling

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Speaker 2: bodies out downstream. We need to work further upstream. You

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Speaker 2: mentioned working with offenders. Is that this prevention work you're

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 3: There's a range of things that we need to do

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Speaker 3: further upstream. The person that you know is absolutely spot on.

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Speaker 3: We spend eighty five percent of our budget into mystinct

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Speaker 3: family violence in New South Wales on the crisis vent

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Speaker 3: and obviously that is not working. In Victoria and Queensland,

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Speaker 3: there've been much more money in the prevention work, and

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Speaker 3: that is about teaching people how to be respectful, working

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Speaker 3: with community groups about how to raise issues in relation

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Speaker 3: to what is an appropriate comment to make because disrespect

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Speaker 3: domestic violence is always preceded by disrespect always, So we

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Speaker 3: need to do more work in prime vention to working

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Speaker 3: with our children, our community groups and also really stepping

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Speaker 3: in just as the first signs appear, so that early

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Speaker 3: interventions there are science.

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing it.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree with those boys at that school having

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Speaker 4: that list of those girls and they put that out

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Speaker 4: So the thing in the old days that's probably been

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Speaker 4: going along for a long time.

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Speaker 2: They listed the attractiveness and now nature of girls.

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Speaker 1: But these boys are being held to account for that.

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Speaker 4: So in a way I feel that we're getting there,

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Speaker 4: are sort of seeing what's happening here, but we've got

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Speaker 4: to move quicker on this.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's true, accelerating everything.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 2: There are known markers for stalkers, for harassment, it's about

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Speaker 2: everyone recognizing what those markers are and acting sooner. Is

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Speaker 2: that part of this too.

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely part of it. That primary prevent the dedicated

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Speaker 3: prime prevention strategy will be working with in our schools,

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Speaker 3: within our sporting groups, within our corporations to actually help

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Speaker 3: people to understand how to have those conversations to stop

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Speaker 3: inappropriate behaviors which don't always lead to domestic and family violence,

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Speaker 3: but domestic and family violence is always preceded by them.

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Speaker 1: Well, minister, thank you for joining us. Good luck with

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Speaker 1: all of that. We all hope that happened, that helps.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It's a big job, but we're totally up

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 1: Goode minister, Jodi and Harris and I should say