WEBVTT - YouTube's Creativity Corruption, Influencers' Selfish Getaways And the Rip Off

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<v Speaker 1>This is Outspoken.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Our names are Amy, Kate and Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets,

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<v Speaker 2>but we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things

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<v Speaker 2>can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment,

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<v Speaker 2>and issues facing women.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so fetched.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, welcome to our Spoken. Thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us again.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Sophie, we have had quite a hellish week and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been because of you, hasn't it. We predicted that

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<v Speaker 2>last week that this would be like Helen Earth this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has lived up to expectations. I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>had five full days of packing, cleaning, scrubbing. So you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't recommend getting a rental and then moving five days

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<v Speaker 2>later or whatever it was. Yeah, I mean I just

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<v Speaker 2>think anytime you leave a rental it's hellish though, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't notice little things that build up

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<v Speaker 2>over time and the grime and the shit, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just well, do you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>So we did discuss last week how Sophie was moving

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<v Speaker 2>this week, and Kate and I came to offer a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of help and we rock up and she's

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<v Speaker 2>literally got a massive.

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<v Speaker 1>Truck outside of her house.

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<v Speaker 2>So you booked the wrong moving truck based so I

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<v Speaker 2>did not book the wrong moving truck. I sent a

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<v Speaker 2>screenshot of every truck to Brandon thinking that he'd know

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<v Speaker 2>which one to pick, and I was quite happy to

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<v Speaker 2>go with the smallest truck. But he thought that the

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<v Speaker 2>smaller trucks didn't come with the electronic lift thing, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was very misleading on the website. Luckily for us,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon's dad is a legend and came and helped, and

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<v Speaker 2>he actually has a truck license, because you required a

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<v Speaker 2>truck license to drive this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how massive it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though the truck was so big, all your stuff

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even fit in it, did it or We did

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<v Speaker 2>one trip with a massive truck, and then it was

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<v Speaker 2>just so difficult to maneuver. We had to just take

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<v Speaker 2>everything in the two utes that we had. But I

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<v Speaker 2>am so happy. We finally handed over the keys to

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<v Speaker 2>our old place last night, and there is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an inspection held this afternoon, which I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to if I finish work early enough, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>drive down and have a stalk of who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the house for everyone's sake. I hope someone

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<v Speaker 2>rents it soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I say thank you to the lovely people in our

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<v Speaker 2>community group who said it would only take a week

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<v Speaker 2>or a week and a half. Thank you very much

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<v Speaker 2>for not siding with Kate Naman saying it'd be like

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<v Speaker 2>months on end. One thing I have enjoyed about the

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<v Speaker 2>moving process is helping Sophie organize her house. I'm living

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<v Speaker 2>vicariously through her at the moment because I'm living in

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<v Speaker 2>a very outdated house with red carpet. Well, I invited

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<v Speaker 2>you over on Friday night, Kate being like, oh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>have a girl's night, just relax, and we ended up

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<v Speaker 2>instead for entertainment, cleaning out the cupboard and putting away

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<v Speaker 2>all of our crockery in color bo. You sent me

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<v Speaker 2>a message saying, oh, it would be great if you

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<v Speaker 2>could help me decide where to put things, so I

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<v Speaker 2>knew from the onset that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a night no.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we also went shopping for pantry items, and we

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<v Speaker 2>officially knew that we are old because I went home

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<v Speaker 2>and I bought a lazy Susan from my Kea and

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<v Speaker 2>I was proudly showing Reese, and all he did was

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<v Speaker 2>laugh and look away.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I got roped into this Ikea trip. I was told

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<v Speaker 2>that we were going to go to Marian shopping Center,

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<v Speaker 2>which I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally got roped.

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<v Speaker 2>Into going Ikea with every man and his dog. They're coughing, sneezing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if there's anyone that's come over the border

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<v Speaker 2>with coronavirus, they probably were down at Ikea.

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<v Speaker 1>On the weekend host. It made me feel ill being there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was shouldered as shoulder, wasn't it. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just hope that. I mean, we've got zero cases here

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, but yeah, they had very cool stuff

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<v Speaker 2>there for anyone else that's looking to revamp their pantry.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my little chickens. Welcome back to another video. So

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<v Speaker 1>in today's video, we're going to be doing a clothing hal.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into the main topic and Rhyese Hawkins has

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<v Speaker 2>shared an interesting insight into the way money corrupts creativity

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<v Speaker 2>in the influencer world. In a podcast episode entitled The

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<v Speaker 2>Ego Awakening, he and co host Mitchell Orville opened up

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<v Speaker 2>about losing themselves at the hands of big brand deals.

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<v Speaker 3>When you start your social media and this is just

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<v Speaker 3>really prevalent in our lives. Yeah, I'm talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>You start out and you do something that's really natural

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<v Speaker 3>and organic, right, and you get a following for that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you start to get so big. This is

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<v Speaker 3>what happened with like me starting a YouTube channel and

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<v Speaker 3>different things. You start to get really big. As soon

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<v Speaker 3>as you start to get big, brands start to reach

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<v Speaker 3>out and they're like, we want you to endorse our product.

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<v Speaker 3>You say no to really shitty ones at the start

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<v Speaker 3>that are like I can't associate with this or some

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<v Speaker 3>of myself. But then the bigger you get from doing

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<v Speaker 3>what you naturally wanted to do and made you passionate,

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<v Speaker 3>the bigger the money gets because your audience gets bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it starts to get to money where you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to change my life if I accept this,

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<v Speaker 3>So you say yes, and then the brands start controlling

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<v Speaker 3>your content and you start to disappear slowly, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you're pushing out all of this content that you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even want to film, you didn't want to take a

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<v Speaker 3>photo of. And then what happens is you lose yourself

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<v Speaker 3>and you forget who the fuck you are? You forget

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<v Speaker 3>what you used to do, why people followed you, and

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<v Speaker 3>you essentially fail yourself and you've done nothing, And do

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<v Speaker 3>you wonder why you're not happy?

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<v Speaker 2>I have actually been so impressed with Reese and Mitch's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit skeptical at the start, but

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<v Speaker 2>they have been so open and honest on there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really good producing by Spin and Co.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I think it is interesting listening to

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<v Speaker 2>two men talk about their views on all of these

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<v Speaker 2>different types of topics never really hear men address. In

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, it really did get me thinking about the

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<v Speaker 2>influencers I have followed for the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>and how they have had such big rises but big

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<v Speaker 2>falls as well. So one of the influencers we have

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<v Speaker 2>been following for probably like four years is Shiny Grimmitt.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're not alone in following her. One point five

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<v Speaker 2>or five million subscribers follow her on YouTube currently and

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<v Speaker 2>over a million on Instagram. What do you guys think

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<v Speaker 2>of her content at the moment. I think we've discussed

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<v Speaker 2>in the podcast previously, but there has just been an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute lack of content on Shany's behalf and she has

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<v Speaker 2>come out recently and said that the reason she hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been posting as much is she was dealing with I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose some well not mental health issues, but she didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She was dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of hate online and she was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>not posting because of that. Well, the starts to reflect

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<v Speaker 2>that because last year Shany posted twenty eight videos, which

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<v Speaker 2>equates to just one video a fortnite, so a massive

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight percent of those videos were sponsored, and the

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<v Speaker 2>only videos that were not sponsored were those that she

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<v Speaker 2>made during lockdown, obviously, when deals are.

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<v Speaker 1>Harder to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I am not surprised at all by those

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<v Speaker 2>stats because she has not been uploading anything over the

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And I had to look back at her

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel in twenty sixteen when she was at the

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<v Speaker 2>peak of her YouTube fame, and back then she posted

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven videos a year, which equates to around one

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<v Speaker 2>every three to four days. Now, looking at each of

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<v Speaker 2>those videos, twenty three percent of the videos was so

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<v Speaker 2>the other remaining videos were really engaging videos, so they

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<v Speaker 2>were weekly vlogs, travel vlogs, and a lot of makeup

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<v Speaker 2>tutorials which actually gave back to the person watching them. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that I loved about her is she really

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<v Speaker 2>opened up about her personal life, and her popularity really

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<v Speaker 2>seems to have dropped off since she's stopped dating Jonathan

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<v Speaker 2>Sour and has been dating Tommy Bug, which, interestingly, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when the move towards this more sponsored content became prolific,

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<v Speaker 2>which when you look at it makes sense because he

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<v Speaker 2>runs his own talent agency called Zots, so he seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be probably in her ear saying, what's the point

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<v Speaker 2>of making videos if you're not getting paid for them.

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<v Speaker 2>We've also got to remember it's also, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>a change in management. Jonathan Sower used to be her manager.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gone onto Zoots, which is more high profile, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many more influences that Zoots manage. The other

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<v Speaker 2>issue is though, that since her popularity seems to have

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<v Speaker 2>dropped off since she's stopped sharing things about Jonathan, because

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<v Speaker 2>I've got this theory that people are now obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>watching YouTubers who have boyfriends, so everyone loves the couple

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<v Speaker 2>content and we're not seeing any of that for her.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that despite Tommy being in charge of an

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<v Speaker 2>influencer company, he doesn't want to appear in any of

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<v Speaker 2>her content. I mean, we've seen him in the background

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<v Speaker 2>of a few things, but nowhere near as much as

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<v Speaker 2>her previous boyfriend Jonathan was in. But do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's because these influences are getting older? I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>they were sharing about their boyfriends, they were teenagers. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they probably know that the toll that this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>exposure on their personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Life gets them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no one's going to be invested in what

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<v Speaker 2>you're posting unless you're actually sharing parts of your life then,

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<v Speaker 2>because then what is it about you that is so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>The concept that people aren't as engaged anymore is actually

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<v Speaker 2>reflected in her subscriber numbers. So taking a look at

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<v Speaker 2>her YouTube channel on Social Blade, she is losing around

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand subscribers a month, and her estimated monthly earnings

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube are a lot lower than I thought they were.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are their earnings that she is estimated to

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<v Speaker 2>make on the adsent side of her YouTube tube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>So this doesn't include any sponsored posts that companies pay

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<v Speaker 2>for her to promote. So she is estimated in a

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<v Speaker 2>month to earn between one hundred and twenty six dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and two thousand dollars Now that really surprised me. It

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<v Speaker 2>is really surprising, and for those who don't know, basically

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube base how much they pay you off something called

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<v Speaker 2>a CPM, which stands for cost per mili, which translates

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<v Speaker 2>to cost per thousand. But also I've heard online that

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<v Speaker 2>they also take into account how much engagement YouTubers get

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<v Speaker 2>on posts, and also if their content is family friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're a YouTuber that posts, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>your Saffron Barker's or your Anasasia kings North, they post

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<v Speaker 2>very family friendly content, no swearing or any of that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, so they get paid more.

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<v Speaker 1>Per thousand views they get.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, when you look at Shanni's estimated yearly earnings

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube, it's only between one point two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four point one thousand, So it's quite obvious that

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<v Speaker 2>her content is no longer engaging and she is having

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<v Speaker 2>to get brands on board to sponsor her. Now, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 2>you've actually got your hands on how much Shiny Grumman

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<v Speaker 2>is charging for this type of right, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I did get a hold of these because I

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<v Speaker 2>did have a client who was interested in working with her,

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<v Speaker 2>so we wanted to see what her costs for certain

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<v Speaker 2>things are So for a YouTube dedicated video, it costs

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven thousand dollars. Can I just interrupt? A YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated video is one of those sort of classic whole videos.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like a hole brought to you by Princess Polly,

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<v Speaker 2>and the influencer just tries on all the clothes and

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<v Speaker 2>puts discount codes. So typically a video that never gets

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<v Speaker 2>that many views all of hers, we've got like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand for a Princess poly stuff, which shows that no

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<v Speaker 2>one's actually because everyone's aware that it's just a sell

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<v Speaker 2>and just down. So if you want a product I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose just featured in a video, whether it's a gym

0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.520
<v Speaker 2>shark product like she has, it's nineteen thousand dollars. For

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<v Speaker 2>an Instagram static post eight thousand dollars. A tap and

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<v Speaker 2>tag post is two thousand, five hundred, an Instagram story

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<v Speaker 2>with one to three slides is four thousand, five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>and an Instagram story hall is six thousand dollars. And interestingly, though,

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<v Speaker 2>she has been posting a lot of IGTV during lockdown,

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<v Speaker 2>and she asked for thirteen thousand dollars for that, and

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<v Speaker 2>she mustn't have as good a reach on TikTok because

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<v Speaker 2>she's only asking a thousand dollars for TikTok. Now, it

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<v Speaker 2>does really make me think what Reese Hawkins said about

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<v Speaker 2>how money is ruining content creation, because when I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at her videos from this year, as we said, sixty

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent of the video she's posted in the last

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<v Speaker 2>year have been sponsored posts. And you can really tell

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no love for it anymore, like you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell when someone is just being paid to try on

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<v Speaker 2>some clothes and try and push them to you, as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to her content, which I used to love. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was flicking back through her videos from twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh my gosh, I remember that

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<v Speaker 2>one I loved when she did what she did in

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<v Speaker 2>a day and she spent the day with Jonathan and

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<v Speaker 2>they went out to the beach, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was very organic.

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<v Speaker 1>She was very relatable.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what they're so silly, because, as Reese touched on,

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<v Speaker 2>they're really selling their souls to the marketing companies because

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<v Speaker 2>they're losing the essence of what people actually enjoyed watching

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<v Speaker 2>and all they're doing is becoming a talking head for

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<v Speaker 2>a brand that they're not even connected with I've just

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<v Speaker 2>had a quick look at Shanie's videos and since January

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<v Speaker 2>she's done three try on clothing holes for different brands.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's that She's nearly made ninety grand?

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible of just those videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how to press your math is wrong. It's

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one thousand dollars. Yeah, I said, nearly ninety grand.

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<v Speaker 2>So how depressing is that that we're all slogging it

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<v Speaker 2>away to get sort of minimum wage get is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're locking in those big numbers like that, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not passionate about it because you're not wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>put out anything that's free. So that's not gonna always

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<v Speaker 2>be the case. She's not always going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to ask for that much money because her engagement has

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<v Speaker 2>dropped off. Her subscribers are going down, Brands are no

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<v Speaker 2>longer wanting to work with just someone that's got heaps

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<v Speaker 2>of subscribers. They're going to have to look at their

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<v Speaker 2>engagement at some point. There was actually a CEO who

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<v Speaker 2>can and he said that there has been a downward

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<v Speaker 2>trend in converting from influencer marketing, so a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are actually looking at what else they can do

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<v Speaker 2>instead of going with influencers because they're just not seeing

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<v Speaker 2>a return. Because we have had influences in our lives

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time now, we kind of know the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>We know when people are trying to sell us stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know about anyone else, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>quickly flick through it. Whenever I see like Hello Fresh

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<v Speaker 2>or something, I'm like, yeah, I get what they're doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't watch those try on holes. No either, I

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<v Speaker 1>do if I'm really desperate for something to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, consumers really are losing trust and paid influencers and

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<v Speaker 2>they're now looking elsewhere at organic, grassroots communities to get recommendations.

0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And I myself have done the same, Like I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>part of a few podcast groups, and I love when

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<v Speaker 2>people are posting information about you know, TV shows or

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<v Speaker 2>clothes that they've bought recently, and because you know that

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<v Speaker 2>those opinions are correct, that they're actually authentic. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like they're being paid to do it. So there are

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<v Speaker 2>some really clever brands that are going out there and

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<v Speaker 2>they're finding their super fans, and they're getting their super

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<v Speaker 2>fans to promote their clothing. But instead of paying them,

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<v Speaker 2>they're sort of giving them perks, like maybe giving them

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<v Speaker 2>free clothes. I've noticed that Keep It Cleaner, which is

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<v Speaker 2>run by Steph Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw, really could

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<v Speaker 2>be capitalizing more on their super fans because there are

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<v Speaker 2>two particular girls and they do share their stories a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have made their own Instagram profiles that just

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<v Speaker 2>show their kick journey, and I feel like those girls

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<v Speaker 2>could be more the face of their marketing, which they

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<v Speaker 2>have started to do. I think they started to get

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<v Speaker 2>some of their fans involved in their advertising, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think more so they could use those people because I

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<v Speaker 2>have seen a lot of people like Beck Judd and

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<v Speaker 2>Sammy Robinson pushing Keep It Cleaner. At the moment, I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe that they do it. We know that they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>paid for them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy if it's easy for marketing teams to be like, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>let's put the money in influence as it's worked before.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose this idea of community marketing is so new

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<v Speaker 2>and it's probably going to be ruined. Like, let's be honest,

0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.960
<v Speaker 2>all forms of you know, emails, our marketing gets ruined

0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.360
<v Speaker 2>because people spam it influence of marketings forever, So we've

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<v Speaker 2>it's constantly evolving, and I think people begin to understand

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening and they start to clue onto Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just an ad. Yeah. Can you imagine just

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<v Speaker 2>in a group, it just pops up. Oh, I just

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<v Speaker 2>really like my Bondo Sands. It's just amazing, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like some persons, it's a sponsored I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>we've focused a lot on Shanny grimmand, but there's also

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of influencers who we've noticed, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>having the same issues that their content has gone down

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<v Speaker 2>since they've gotten bigger, which kind of correlates with what

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<v Speaker 2>Reese has been saying about people losing their authenticity due

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<v Speaker 2>to sponsorship deals. And one of those people I believe

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<v Speaker 2>is Sammy Robinson. And Sammy Robinson's always been someone I've

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed following, but her quality of videos has really gone

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<v Speaker 2>down and at the moment she's averaging around sixty to

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<v Speaker 2>ninety thousand views, yet she's charging similar amounts to what

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<v Speaker 2>Shanny Grimman is. Well, I have those stats on hand

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone is interested as well, So just spilling on

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<v Speaker 2>the team. So for a non exclusive YouTube view, she

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<v Speaker 2>charges eight thoy nine hundred plus fifteen thousand dollar agents sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>a fifteen percent agency feed, So say a fifteen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollar agency. So that's about what half Shany was charging.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, well there was nineteen. Well for a category

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive YouTube video, it's nine thousand and seven, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and ninety. And in regards to her Instagram collaboration, Sammy

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<v Speaker 2>also charges four thousand, two hundred, which is pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>on par with Shanny, despite having a significantly lower follow account.

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<v Speaker 2>That is massive to be charging, especially when her videos

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<v Speaker 2>are not getting the views they used to do. So

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<v Speaker 2>this year alone, she has only had one video which

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<v Speaker 2>has received over two hundred thousand and can you guys guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Which video that was?

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<v Speaker 2>It would have been one with Nick. I think her boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're good it was. It was a muk bug

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<v Speaker 2>that she did with Marketbane saymook, but I'm not sure anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it was amook bung that she did with Nick when

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<v Speaker 2>where she explained why they'd broken up. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>good one actually, But in fact I had a little

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<v Speaker 2>look and all of her videos which featured Nick in

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<v Speaker 2>the thumb now outrated.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the others.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really interesting you say that because I had a

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<v Speaker 2>look at Madison Woolly's YouTube subscribers, and she, of course

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<v Speaker 2>is Shane Grimman's ex's new girlfriend, so she is really

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<v Speaker 2>in complete competition with Shany. I mean, they wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 2>that themselves, but I'm sure they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're friends in here. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>She has only one hundred and thirty five thousand subscribers

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<v Speaker 2>compared to Shanny's one point five to five million. However,

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<v Speaker 2>she is estimated to be earning around the same price

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<v Speaker 2>actually a little bit more than Shanny is on her YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah for AdSense, So she's estimated to earn one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty to two point four thousand a month and

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<v Speaker 2>between one point eight to twenty eight point seven thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is of course because she has been uploading

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more content. But a lot of that content

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<v Speaker 2>does include Jonathan Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he is the ticket here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was funny because I saw this YouTube recently

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<v Speaker 2>and it was of Tommy and Molly May from Love Island,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tommy was teasing that she was only using him

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<v Speaker 2>in her videos to get more views, because apparently when

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<v Speaker 2>she puts up her thumbnail with Tommy it does get

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<v Speaker 2>wal clicks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've been focusing a lot on YouTubers that are

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<v Speaker 2>doing it wrong, but talking about a YouTuber that seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be continuing to do it right. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>she's divisive and we talk about her a lot, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's Sarah's day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had a look.

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<v Speaker 2>At her YouTube channel on Social Blade and she has

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<v Speaker 2>around the same amount of followers as Shani Grimmin, So

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<v Speaker 2>she's got one point four to five million subscribers. However,

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<v Speaker 2>she is gaining ten thousand subscribers every thirty days, and

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<v Speaker 2>her estimated earnings on YouTube are between one point three

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty one thousand dollars a month and fifteen point

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<v Speaker 2>seven and two hundred and fifty one thousand per year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that is on ad Sense alone. Now, what set

0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Sarah's day apart is she seems to actually have brand

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<v Speaker 2>deals that she really believes in. So for years she

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<v Speaker 2>has been promoting tripeek It. For years, she's been promoting Lebang,

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<v Speaker 2>and she has also and of course Fox Boutique, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and White Fox Boutique. Who Now she has so many

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<v Speaker 2>different lines with I'm sorry, she's got to have shares

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<v Speaker 2>in White Fox boutique. There is something going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids called Fox.

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<v Speaker 2>I know maybe her other kid will be called White

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah movie. Well, it is interesting because it gets into

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<v Speaker 2>the whole point about YouTubers creating their own brands. And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Sarah's Day is the epitome of a

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<v Speaker 2>walking brand. She is someone that is quite authentic and

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell that she actually believes in the product

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<v Speaker 2>she promotes rather than just one week she's promoting Boohoo.

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<v Speaker 2>I think your example of Sarah's Day being one of

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<v Speaker 2>those influencers that's really capitalizing on having her own brand

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<v Speaker 2>is so correct, and she's one of those people that

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<v Speaker 2>continues to put out content that is unbranded. And I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>more people need to follow Sarah's Day if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to see the success that she.

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<v Speaker 1>That she has.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, and more influencers need to follow Sarah's Day if

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<v Speaker 2>they want to see the same success. Because I'm finding

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing Shaney Grimm and Sammy Robinson. They've both got

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<v Speaker 2>their own lines. Sammy's got one Mile and Shaney She's

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 2>got silk swimwear, Yet we only see them posting when

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 2>they want to sprink. Their latest sale is it just me?

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Or is it really strange for Shany Grimman to be

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<v Speaker 2>promoting swimwear and Sammy Robinson to be promoting a fashion label.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of those influencers made it big in the beauty industry.

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<v Speaker 2>It would make a lot more sense for them to

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<v Speaker 2>be creating a beauty product. Well, I think they've both

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about how they've lost their passion for beauty, so

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps that is why. Yeah, but it makes no sense

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not going to be going and buying swimwear

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<v Speaker 2>from Shiny grimm And I know she's got breast implants

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<v Speaker 2>and she's been trying to make her body more of

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<v Speaker 2>a focus, but you know, you've got to go with

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<v Speaker 2>your bread and butter. She is known for testing out makeup.

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably believe more in a makeup product she's

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<v Speaker 2>brought out than a pair of fails with Sammy, though

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I think Sammy is more known for looking like a model.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think with Sammy. She got put a

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<v Speaker 2>two dollar moisturizer of her face and she looked bloody great.

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 1>She is so stunny. It's the perfect salesperson then Freddy makeup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she is, but you can tell she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really like makeupse she doesn't even wear it because she's.

0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:58.840
<v Speaker 1>So stunning without it.

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<v Speaker 2>You touched on that she like a model, But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>all the clothes that she creates are based on her frame,

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<v Speaker 2>which is quite an unattainable frame. She's like six foot tall,

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<v Speaker 2>stick thin. Not many people that follow her will have

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<v Speaker 2>that same body. So, yeah, the clothes look great on her,

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<v Speaker 2>but are they going to look great on everyone else? No,

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.359
<v Speaker 2>but they'll still buy it. They'll still buy it because

0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.720
<v Speaker 2>you think I'm going to look like Sammy Robinson if

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.679
<v Speaker 2>I have these pants. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll keep this

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 2>conversation going in our Facebook community. It would be great

0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to know if you have seen any of your favorite

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 2>YouTubers going down this same path, and maybe recommend some

0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.440
<v Speaker 2>YouTubers that are doing some great things so we can

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<v Speaker 2>follow them. Let's get into the pit and peak of

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 2>the social media week. Now, okay, I'm loving this peak.

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, this made me laugh so much. Pedestrian

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 2>have done an article entitled Ozzie's are sharing their non

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:55.240
<v Speaker 2>specific yardsticks of what makes someone a legit rich Kent. Now.

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.119
<v Speaker 2>This all started when writer Benjamin Law shared a tweet

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>saying that he thought people were rich when he was

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 2>a kid if they had a dishwasher. Now other people

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 2>have followed and said, it all comes down to a fridge.

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 2>So it's either a fridge with double doors, or it's

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 2>got an ice maker, or it's got a water dispenser,

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 2>which I didn't even know fridges had water. Yes, so

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:18.160
<v Speaker 2>with the ice as well. Yeah, so yeah, okay, yeah,

0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted a one with the ice dispenser. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really did think that that made you rich when

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.479
<v Speaker 2>I was little as well. Do you know what I

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 2>also think that you know, when you were when you

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.639
<v Speaker 2>were at school, you always thought a kid was rich

0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 2>at school if they got lots of yummy treats in

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 2>their lunch box. So if they got like a Danny

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.639
<v Speaker 2>or they got a roll up or something like that,

0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 2>you instantly thought, oh, this kid's parents have got money.

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I look at that and I probably think it's

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 2>someone from a low associate economic background because giving their

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:45.919
<v Speaker 2>kids so much sugar is probably really bad. Oh oh, you're

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.679
<v Speaker 2>ragging on the kids now with dun karouromily s As,

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I was jealous because we only ever got an apple.

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And then in year four, mum kindly started giving us chips,

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 2>and it was very against her morals because she's a

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 2>dental therapist and she hated us having anything that was

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 2>bad for us. There are a few other funny ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like this one. Someone said if someone has

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<v Speaker 2>a full fridge of canned or bottled drinks, they assume

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 2>they're rich. And I agree because you know when someone

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 2>would have like all coke cans and you'd be like, Wow,

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 2>it's funny you say that because I'm following a former

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 2>thirty six is import on Instagram who is back in

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.439
<v Speaker 2>America with his kids, and his kids were stocking up

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.399
<v Speaker 2>their little barfridge and they were putting all like cans

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 2>of coke and bottled water and juices, and I just

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 2>thought that is the epitome of being rich as well.

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like the Kardashians.

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>They've got the full on fridge that's got the sea

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 2>through door, just showing off all their Fiji water and

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.639
<v Speaker 2>their kimbucher and everything. Yeah. Well, another one that I

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 2>completely agreed with with someone said ice magic was the

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:42.919
<v Speaker 2>form of being rich, and I know for us that

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 2>was only brought out on very special occasions, as with Viennetta.

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Viennetta was another one I also loved. Someone pointed out

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 2>that any kid that had a thirty six pack of

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 2>dir and pencils. Now, I was lucky enough to share

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 2>my desk at primary school with a girl, Emma Clark,

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>who had a pack of thirty six pencils, and I

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 2>used to get to use them. But my job in

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>order to use them was I had to then make

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>sure all the colored pencils were in their rightful order,

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:08.880
<v Speaker 2>so they were numbered.

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that? Yeah, I do remember that. That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's move on to the pit of the social

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>media week. Yeah, I've gotta say this one has been

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>grating on me. Now, this has been going on for

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks now, and that is Madison Woolly

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.199
<v Speaker 2>and her trip to Melbourne. So she went to Melbourne

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, and I personally was shocked

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 2>because I was under the understanding that people were only

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 2>allowed to travel for work or for very important situations.

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 2>And Madison is of course from Sydney. Yeah, so Madison

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 2>flew across from Sydney with her boyfriend Jonathan Sawyer, who

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.880
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about earlier in the episode, and they were

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>living it up in Melbourne, going out to dinners, going shopping.

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 2>But on her YouTube video from her Melbourne vlog, she

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that she was on a secret work trip, so

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 2>there were exemptions for people who were traveling to Melbourne

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>for work. So we're guessing that that trip was actually

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 2>technically classified as.

0:24:59.160 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>A work trip.

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 2>But was it really Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.639
<v Speaker 2>see what she actually comes out with the product that

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 2>she's obviously going to be launching soon. But she went

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>not only did she go from Sydney to Melbourne, she

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>then went Melbourne back to Sydney to Byron Bay. And

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 2>while you know, we're not sure if she's sick, we're

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>not actually saying that she's passing on coronavirus. It does

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>seem a bit strange that these influencers are allowed to

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 2>travel from state to states to state and claim it

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 2>as a work trip when all we really see of

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 2>their work trip is them going out and taking photos

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>of themselves at dinner. Yeah, I'm going to be honest.

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>It pissed me off, especially in this climate when Melbourne

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 2>has just been locked down. Despite her not actually breaching

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>any rules, it does seem pretty tone deaf to be

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>bragging about traveling to Melbourne, then going to Byron Bay

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>with your influencer friends, and then this weekend living it

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 2>up in luxury Sydney Hotel because her and Jonathan are

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 2>celebrating their one year out of her So it did

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 2>make me laugh because I did see her YouTube where

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>she did a video about her going away to Byron

0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Bay with her friends, and I thought it's so funny

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>because is normally it's YouTubers bragging about their international holidays,

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 2>but now I feel like the place to be is

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Byron Bay. Yeah, I actually feel sorry for the people

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>in biro and Bay, especially if it's become some sort

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>of coronavirus hot spot with everyone traveling there. Oh my gosh,

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't Zac Efron's living there now. They're probably loving life. Yeah,

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>zach Efron and the Hemsworth it seems the place to

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>be in Australia.

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I wonder all the influences are going.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Trying to tell what kind of going that's going to

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>be that girlfriend. Let's get into our reality wrap and

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 2>let's be honest. There's been nothing really worth mentioning that's

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 2>been going on on TV. We've been mentioning for the past.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>It seems like the past bloody twelve weeks, we've been

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 2>saying Bachelor and Paradise is back. So we're not going

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to talk about that. We're gonna save that for next week.

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>But what we're going to talk about is a shock

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 2>new relationship. Yeah. I was scrolling down my Instagram feed

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday morning and I had to forward this immediately

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to Amy And so, so Luke M from Love Island's

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>recent summer series is now dating Lucy, who was on it.

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>A couple of seasons ago.

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>So she was with oh what he was a sandwich guy? Yeah, Joe. Yeah,

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 2>so she broke up with Joe. She also had the

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 2>hots for Tommy, who's now with Molly May. So it

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of when I saw it, I'm like, that makes

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense. I kind of look like they

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>suit each other. Well, they're both blonde now because Luke

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 2>M's done the whole going blonde in ISO. Yeah. But

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing that's controversial about this is he's

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 2>only just broken up with Demi, and he cited distance

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 2>being an issue. However, Lucy lives in Cornwall, which is

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>much further away from him. Oh, let's be honest, he

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 2>and Demi there was never anything going on. That was

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 2>just for both of them to stay on the show.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I didn't believe in that relationship at all.

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 2>It was definitely a show man. So I'm surprised it

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>lasted as long as it did.

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 4>I've got this really weird habit. It's so weird and

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 4>he's too time, like eleven o'clock of a night. I

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 4>like to have a cigarette on the tour lep. I

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 4>have a cigarette on the tourlet, but when I want

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 4>the cigarette, I formed a.

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Weird TapIt is it when you have LUII?

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 4>It could be for all.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Now let's get into awkward turtle and Sophia. You seem

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 2>to be dominating this segment of the show. You've got

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to tell us what happened with you? And are we

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>naming and shaming dominoes? Is that? Yes?

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>We are naming and for sure?

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I still have a burning pit of

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>rage in my chest from the incident that occurred on

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Friday night, So I don't know if that's the saying,

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, she was very.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Ang I was furious.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 2>So so on Friday night, we thought we'd sit down

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>after two days of hellish moving, and we thought we'd

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>also have a cheap meal, because you know, you bloody

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 2>piss money away when you're moving. We're like, let's all

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>have a five dollars each, have a five dollar pizza,

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>will splash out with a drink and some chips, and

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.479
<v Speaker 2>we'll get delivery. I usually reject the delivery option because

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>that's against everything I believe in. Can I just say

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know Domino's soul chips?

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It was anyway, I've got They've got a whole new

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>range stuff. Anyway. We're not trying to promote Domino, We're not.

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I ring up order and the girl on

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 2>the phone doesn't give me the price of how much

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>it is, and I said, yeah, we'll have it delivered.

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>It was five minutes down the road from us. We

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>were just too exhausted to get.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>It anyway, So then the delivery man rocks up. We

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>worked out it should have been about twenty two dollars

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe five dollars delivery. He then asks us for forty

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 2>two dollars and I almost died, and Brandon hands over

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the money and I was like, what the hell is

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>he like pocketing the extra cash?

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>So then why didn't you ask him?

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Then?

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 1>Because I wasn't dealing with him, and I was. It

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was really embarrassed.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>So I rang up the girl immediately and I said,

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, we've been overcharged. Our meal cost twenty two dollars.

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I assume five dollars for delivery. She then tells me

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>that they charge a delivery fee for each individual item.

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>So you're telling me they actually penalize you for ordering more. Yeah,

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>So she told me that the five dollar pizza rounded

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>up to ten dollars because of delivery and so forth

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>for each of the other items. So delivery for dropping

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 2>the food five minutes down the road was twenty dollars.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>As I lost it, Like I usually don't like to

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>be rude to people on the phone, but I saw

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>read lost it. Brandon had to tell me to calm down,

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>stop and I was like, well, what are you gonna

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>do for me about it? All she said was that's

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>the price. So being in my thirties now, I thought

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>it was quite within my right to write a feedback

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>letter to Domino's. I love I love about you're doing

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>this all whilst moving like also priority to keep the

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>wrong person, So I politely pen them an email saying

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>how disgusted I was, and why is there no delivery

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 2>information online? To then be told that each individual store

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>has their own policies and I should download their app

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>if I would like to, you know, be across the fee.

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, where's my apology or my voucher to shop

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>with you?

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Again?

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I am never never going to Domino's. The worst thing

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>was I was so outraged by the incident that I

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>let the food go cold and then it was even

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>tasted even more like cardboard. And have I not I'm sorry?

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>This is massive rant. Have I not been talking up

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Dominoes to everyone saying, oh, you better check it out? Well,

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, no one check it out? Yeah, okay, cow boys.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>You have been telling me to try Dominoes and I

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>will not because I don't want to eat crap five

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>dollar pizza. Well I'm on my health kick, so Dominoes

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>is a no already. Well, I think that's all we've

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>got time for. Thank you again for listening to Outspoken.

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