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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken.

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Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: Our names are Amy, Kate and Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets,

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Speaker 2: but we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things

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Speaker 2: can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment,

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Speaker 2: and issues facing women.

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Speaker 3: That is so fetched.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, welcome to our Spoken. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us again.

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Speaker 2: Now, Sophie, we have had quite a hellish week and

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Speaker 2: it's been because of you, hasn't it. We predicted that

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Speaker 2: last week that this would be like Helen Earth this week,

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Speaker 2: and it has lived up to expectations. I think I've

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Speaker 2: had five full days of packing, cleaning, scrubbing. So you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't recommend getting a rental and then moving five days

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Speaker 2: later or whatever it was. Yeah, I mean I just

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Speaker 2: think anytime you leave a rental it's hellish though, because

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Speaker 2: you know, you don't notice little things that build up

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Speaker 2: over time and the grime and the shit, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just well, do you know what.

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Speaker 2: So we did discuss last week how Sophie was moving

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Speaker 2: this week, and Kate and I came to offer a

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Speaker 2: little bit of help and we rock up and she's

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Speaker 2: literally got a massive.

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Speaker 1: Truck outside of her house.

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Speaker 2: So you booked the wrong moving truck based so I

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Speaker 2: did not book the wrong moving truck. I sent a

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Speaker 2: screenshot of every truck to Brandon thinking that he'd know

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Speaker 2: which one to pick, and I was quite happy to

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Speaker 2: go with the smallest truck. But he thought that the

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Speaker 2: smaller trucks didn't come with the electronic lift thing, so

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Speaker 2: it was very misleading on the website. Luckily for us,

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Speaker 2: Brandon's dad is a legend and came and helped, and

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Speaker 2: he actually has a truck license, because you required a

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Speaker 2: truck license to drive this thing.

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Speaker 1: This is how massive it was.

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Speaker 2: Even though the truck was so big, all your stuff

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Speaker 2: didn't even fit in it, did it or We did

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Speaker 2: one trip with a massive truck, and then it was

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Speaker 2: just so difficult to maneuver. We had to just take

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Speaker 2: everything in the two utes that we had. But I

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Speaker 2: am so happy. We finally handed over the keys to

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Speaker 2: our old place last night, and there is going to

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Speaker 2: be an inspection held this afternoon, which I am going

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Speaker 2: to if I finish work early enough, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: drive down and have a stalk of who's going to

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Speaker 2: look at the house for everyone's sake. I hope someone

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Speaker 2: rents it soon.

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Speaker 1: And I can.

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Speaker 2: I say thank you to the lovely people in our

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Speaker 2: community group who said it would only take a week

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Speaker 2: or a week and a half. Thank you very much

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Speaker 2: for not siding with Kate Naman saying it'd be like

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Speaker 2: months on end. One thing I have enjoyed about the

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Speaker 2: moving process is helping Sophie organize her house. I'm living

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Speaker 2: vicariously through her at the moment because I'm living in

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Speaker 2: a very outdated house with red carpet. Well, I invited

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Speaker 2: instead for entertainment, cleaning out the cupboard and putting away

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Speaker 2: all of our crockery in color bo. You sent me

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Speaker 2: a message saying, oh, it would be great if you

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Speaker 2: could help me decide where to put things, so I

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Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: And we also went shopping for pantry items, and we

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Speaker 2: officially knew that we are old because I went home

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Speaker 2: I was proudly showing Reese, and all he did was

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I got roped into this Ikea trip. I was told

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Speaker 1: Literally got roped.

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Speaker 2: Into going Ikea with every man and his dog. They're coughing, sneezing.

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Speaker 2: You know, if there's anyone that's come over the border

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Speaker 2: with coronavirus, they probably were down at Ikea.

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Speaker 1: On the weekend host. It made me feel ill being there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was shouldered as shoulder, wasn't it. Well, let's

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Speaker 2: at the moment, but yeah, they had very cool stuff

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Speaker 1: Hello, my little chickens. Welcome back to another video. So

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Speaker 1: in today's video, we're going to be doing a clothing hal.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into the main topic and Rhyese Hawkins has

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Speaker 2: shared an interesting insight into the way money corrupts creativity

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Speaker 2: Ego Awakening, he and co host Mitchell Orville opened up

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Speaker 3: When you start your social media and this is just

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Speaker 3: really prevalent in our lives. Yeah, I'm talking about it.

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Speaker 3: You start out and you do something that's really natural

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Speaker 3: out and they're like, we want you to endorse our product.

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Speaker 3: You say no to really shitty ones at the start

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Speaker 3: Then it starts to get to money where you're like,

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Speaker 3: this is going to change my life if I accept this,

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Speaker 3: So you say yes, and then the brands start controlling

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Speaker 2: I have actually been so impressed with Reese and Mitch's podcast.

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit skeptical at the start, but

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Speaker 2: I think it's really good producing by Spin and Co.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I think it is interesting listening to

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Speaker 2: Now we're not alone in following her. One point five

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Speaker 2: sixty eight percent of those videos were sponsored, and the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I am not surprised at all by those

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Speaker 2: We've also got to remember it's also, as you said,

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Speaker 2: a change in management. Jonathan Sower used to be her manager.

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Speaker 2: because then what is it about you that is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: So if you're a YouTuber that posts, you know, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when you look at Shanni's estimated yearly earnings

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Speaker 2: It would have been one with Nick. I think her boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: it's Sarah's day.

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Speaker 2: Now that is on ad Sense alone. Now, what set

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Speaker 2: more people need to follow Sarah's Day if they want

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Speaker 2: Sorry, and more influencers need to follow Sarah's Day if

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Speaker 2: spoken about how they've lost their passion for beauty, so

437
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 2: perhaps that is why. Yeah, but it makes no sense

438
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: because I'm not going to be going and buying swimwear

439
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 2: from Shiny grimm And I know she's got breast implants

440
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: and she's been trying to make her body more of

441
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: a focus, but you know, you've got to go with

442
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 2: your bread and butter. She is known for testing out makeup.

443
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: I would probably believe more in a makeup product she's

444
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: brought out than a pair of fails with Sammy, though

445
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 2: I think Sammy is more known for looking like a model.

446
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: I don't even think with Sammy. She got put a

447
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 2: two dollar moisturizer of her face and she looked bloody great.

448
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: She is so stunny. It's the perfect salesperson then Freddy makeup.

449
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she is, but you can tell she doesn't

450
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: really like makeupse she doesn't even wear it because she's.

451
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: So stunning without it.

452
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: You touched on that she like a model, But for me,

453
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: all the clothes that she creates are based on her frame,

454
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 2: which is quite an unattainable frame. She's like six foot tall,

455
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: stick thin. Not many people that follow her will have

456
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: that same body. So, yeah, the clothes look great on her,

457
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 2: but are they going to look great on everyone else? No,

458
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: but they'll still buy it. They'll still buy it because

459
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: you think I'm going to look like Sammy Robinson if

460
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 2: I have these pants. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll keep this

461
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: conversation going in our Facebook community. It would be great

462
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: to know if you have seen any of your favorite

463
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 2: YouTubers going down this same path, and maybe recommend some

464
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 2: YouTubers that are doing some great things so we can

465
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Speaker 2: follow them. Let's get into the pit and peak of

466
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: the social media week. Now, okay, I'm loving this peak.

467
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this made me laugh so much. Pedestrian

468
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: have done an article entitled Ozzie's are sharing their non

469
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: specific yardsticks of what makes someone a legit rich Kent. Now.

470
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Speaker 2: This all started when writer Benjamin Law shared a tweet

471
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Speaker 2: saying that he thought people were rich when he was

472
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: a kid if they had a dishwasher. Now other people

473
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: have followed and said, it all comes down to a fridge.

474
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: So it's either a fridge with double doors, or it's

475
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: got an ice maker, or it's got a water dispenser,

476
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: which I didn't even know fridges had water. Yes, so

477
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: with the ice as well. Yeah, so yeah, okay, yeah,

478
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: I've always wanted a one with the ice dispenser. And

479
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: I really did think that that made you rich when

480
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 2: I was little as well. Do you know what I

481
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: also think that you know, when you were when you

482
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: were at school, you always thought a kid was rich

483
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: at school if they got lots of yummy treats in

484
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: their lunch box. So if they got like a Danny

485
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: or they got a roll up or something like that,

486
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: you instantly thought, oh, this kid's parents have got money.

487
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: Now I look at that and I probably think it's

488
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: someone from a low associate economic background because giving their

489
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 2: kids so much sugar is probably really bad. Oh oh, you're

490
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 2: ragging on the kids now with dun karouromily s As,

491
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: I was jealous because we only ever got an apple.

492
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: And then in year four, mum kindly started giving us chips,

493
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: and it was very against her morals because she's a

494
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: dental therapist and she hated us having anything that was

495
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: bad for us. There are a few other funny ones.

496
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: I really like this one. Someone said if someone has

497
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: a full fridge of canned or bottled drinks, they assume

498
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: they're rich. And I agree because you know when someone

499
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: would have like all coke cans and you'd be like, Wow,

500
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: it's funny you say that because I'm following a former

501
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: thirty six is import on Instagram who is back in

502
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 2: America with his kids, and his kids were stocking up

503
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: their little barfridge and they were putting all like cans

504
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: of coke and bottled water and juices, and I just

505
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: thought that is the epitome of being rich as well.

506
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: It's like the Kardashians.

507
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: They've got the full on fridge that's got the sea

508
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: through door, just showing off all their Fiji water and

509
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: their kimbucher and everything. Yeah. Well, another one that I

510
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: completely agreed with with someone said ice magic was the

511
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: form of being rich, and I know for us that

512
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: was only brought out on very special occasions, as with Viennetta.

513
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: Viennetta was another one I also loved. Someone pointed out

514
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: that any kid that had a thirty six pack of

515
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: dir and pencils. Now, I was lucky enough to share

516
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: my desk at primary school with a girl, Emma Clark,

517
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: who had a pack of thirty six pencils, and I

518
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: used to get to use them. But my job in

519
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: order to use them was I had to then make

520
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: sure all the colored pencils were in their rightful order,

521
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: so they were numbered.

522
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Yeah, I do remember that. That's hilarious.

523
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to the pit of the social

524
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: media week. Yeah, I've gotta say this one has been

525
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: grating on me. Now, this has been going on for

526
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks now, and that is Madison Woolly

527
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: and her trip to Melbourne. So she went to Melbourne

528
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and I personally was shocked

529
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: because I was under the understanding that people were only

530
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: allowed to travel for work or for very important situations.

531
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 2: And Madison is of course from Sydney. Yeah, so Madison

532
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: flew across from Sydney with her boyfriend Jonathan Sawyer, who

533
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: we've talked about earlier in the episode, and they were

534
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: living it up in Melbourne, going out to dinners, going shopping.

535
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: But on her YouTube video from her Melbourne vlog, she

536
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: mentioned that she was on a secret work trip, so

537
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: there were exemptions for people who were traveling to Melbourne

538
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: for work. So we're guessing that that trip was actually

539
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: technically classified as.

540
00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: A work trip.

541
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: But was it really Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to

542
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: see what she actually comes out with the product that

543
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: she's obviously going to be launching soon. But she went

544
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: not only did she go from Sydney to Melbourne, she

545
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: then went Melbourne back to Sydney to Byron Bay. And

546
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: while you know, we're not sure if she's sick, we're

547
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: not actually saying that she's passing on coronavirus. It does

548
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: seem a bit strange that these influencers are allowed to

549
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: travel from state to states to state and claim it

550
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: as a work trip when all we really see of

551
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: their work trip is them going out and taking photos

552
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: of themselves at dinner. Yeah, I'm going to be honest.

553
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: It pissed me off, especially in this climate when Melbourne

554
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: has just been locked down. Despite her not actually breaching

555
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: any rules, it does seem pretty tone deaf to be

556
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: bragging about traveling to Melbourne, then going to Byron Bay

557
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: with your influencer friends, and then this weekend living it

558
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: up in luxury Sydney Hotel because her and Jonathan are

559
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 2: celebrating their one year out of her So it did

560
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: make me laugh because I did see her YouTube where

561
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: she did a video about her going away to Byron

562
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: Bay with her friends, and I thought it's so funny

563
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: because is normally it's YouTubers bragging about their international holidays,

564
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: but now I feel like the place to be is

565
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: Byron Bay. Yeah, I actually feel sorry for the people

566
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: in biro and Bay, especially if it's become some sort

567
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: of coronavirus hot spot with everyone traveling there. Oh my gosh,

568
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: I don't Zac Efron's living there now. They're probably loving life. Yeah,

569
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: zach Efron and the Hemsworth it seems the place to

570
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: be in Australia.

571
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: I wonder all the influences are going.

572
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Trying to tell what kind of going that's going to

573
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: be that girlfriend. Let's get into our reality wrap and

574
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: let's be honest. There's been nothing really worth mentioning that's

575
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: been going on on TV. We've been mentioning for the past.

576
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: It seems like the past bloody twelve weeks, we've been

577
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: saying Bachelor and Paradise is back. So we're not going

578
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: to talk about that. We're gonna save that for next week.

579
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: But what we're going to talk about is a shock

580
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: new relationship. Yeah. I was scrolling down my Instagram feed

581
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: on Sunday morning and I had to forward this immediately

582
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: to Amy And so, so Luke M from Love Island's

583
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: recent summer series is now dating Lucy, who was on it.

584
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: A couple of seasons ago.

585
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: So she was with oh what he was a sandwich guy? Yeah, Joe. Yeah,

586
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: so she broke up with Joe. She also had the

587
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: hots for Tommy, who's now with Molly May. So it

588
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: kind of when I saw it, I'm like, that makes

589
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. I kind of look like they

590
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: suit each other. Well, they're both blonde now because Luke

591
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: M's done the whole going blonde in ISO. Yeah. But

592
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: I think the thing that's controversial about this is he's

593
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: only just broken up with Demi, and he cited distance

594
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: being an issue. However, Lucy lives in Cornwall, which is

595
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: much further away from him. Oh, let's be honest, he

596
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: and Demi there was never anything going on. That was

597
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: just for both of them to stay on the show.

598
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't believe in that relationship at all.

599
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: It was definitely a show man. So I'm surprised it

600
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: lasted as long as it did.

601
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: I've got this really weird habit. It's so weird and

602
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: he's too time, like eleven o'clock of a night. I

603
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: like to have a cigarette on the tour lep. I

604
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: have a cigarette on the tourlet, but when I want

605
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: the cigarette, I formed a.

606
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: Weird TapIt is it when you have LUII?

607
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: It could be for all.

608
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: Now let's get into awkward turtle and Sophia. You seem

609
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: to be dominating this segment of the show. You've got

610
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: to tell us what happened with you? And are we

611
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: naming and shaming dominoes? Is that? Yes?

612
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: We are naming and for sure?

613
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: Well, I think I still have a burning pit of

614
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: rage in my chest from the incident that occurred on

615
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: Friday night, So I don't know if that's the saying,

616
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: But anyway, she was very.

617
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: Ang I was furious.

618
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: So so on Friday night, we thought we'd sit down

619
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: after two days of hellish moving, and we thought we'd

620
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: also have a cheap meal, because you know, you bloody

621
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: piss money away when you're moving. We're like, let's all

622
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: have a five dollars each, have a five dollar pizza,

623
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: will splash out with a drink and some chips, and

624
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 2: we'll get delivery. I usually reject the delivery option because

625
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: that's against everything I believe in. Can I just say

626
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: I didn't even know Domino's soul chips?

627
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

628
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: It was anyway, I've got They've got a whole new

629
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: range stuff. Anyway. We're not trying to promote Domino, We're not.

630
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: So anyway, I ring up order and the girl on

631
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: the phone doesn't give me the price of how much

632
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: it is, and I said, yeah, we'll have it delivered.

633
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: It was five minutes down the road from us. We

634
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: were just too exhausted to get.

635
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: It anyway, So then the delivery man rocks up. We

636
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: worked out it should have been about twenty two dollars

637
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: maybe five dollars delivery. He then asks us for forty

638
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: two dollars and I almost died, and Brandon hands over

639
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: the money and I was like, what the hell is

640
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: he like pocketing the extra cash?

641
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: So then why didn't you ask him?

642
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: Then?

643
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't dealing with him, and I was. It

644
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: was really embarrassed.

645
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: So I rang up the girl immediately and I said,

646
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we've been overcharged. Our meal cost twenty two dollars.

647
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: I assume five dollars for delivery. She then tells me

648
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: that they charge a delivery fee for each individual item.

649
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: So you're telling me they actually penalize you for ordering more. Yeah,

650
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: So she told me that the five dollar pizza rounded

651
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: up to ten dollars because of delivery and so forth

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Speaker 2: for each of the other items. So delivery for dropping

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Speaker 2: the food five minutes down the road was twenty dollars.

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Speaker 2: As I lost it, Like I usually don't like to

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Speaker 2: be rude to people on the phone, but I saw

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Speaker 2: read lost it. Brandon had to tell me to calm down,

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Speaker 2: stop and I was like, well, what are you gonna

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Speaker 2: do for me about it? All she said was that's

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Speaker 2: the price. So being in my thirties now, I thought

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Speaker 2: it was quite within my right to write a feedback

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Speaker 2: letter to Domino's. I love I love about you're doing

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Speaker 2: this all whilst moving like also priority to keep the

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Speaker 2: wrong person, So I politely pen them an email saying

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Speaker 2: how disgusted I was, and why is there no delivery

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Speaker 2: information online? To then be told that each individual store

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Speaker 2: has their own policies and I should download their app

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Speaker 2: if I would like to, you know, be across the fee.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, where's my apology or my voucher to shop

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Speaker 2: with you?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: I am never never going to Domino's. The worst thing

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Speaker 2: was I was so outraged by the incident that I

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Speaker 2: let the food go cold and then it was even

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Speaker 2: tasted even more like cardboard. And have I not I'm sorry?

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Speaker 2: This is massive rant. Have I not been talking up

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Speaker 2: Dominoes to everyone saying, oh, you better check it out? Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no one check it out? Yeah, okay, cow boys.

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Speaker 2: You have been telling me to try Dominoes and I

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Speaker 2: will not because I don't want to eat crap five

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Speaker 2: dollar pizza. Well I'm on my health kick, so Dominoes

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Speaker 2: is a no already. Well, I think that's all we've

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