1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: This is jam nation with jones Man. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the Jonesy Man rams for 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: the pub test? Got your questions by journalists to our politicians? 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Do they pass the pub test? 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: Look, they're getting ridiculous. I know that the Albanese has 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 3: been caught out a couple of times not having details 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 3: to hand, But then you get something like this that 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: happened last week. 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 4: Study suggests up to about fifty percent of women it's 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 4: probably even more after giving birth experienced female experience in continents. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 4: It's a major issue amongst women. How is it appropriate 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 4: for your Member for Lions, Brian Mitchell to tweet about 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 4: if this debate doesn't wrap up soon, we're going to 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: need mops. Women don't do well holding on well. 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that tweet. 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: When film a few years ago. 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: I think when it film twenty eleven. 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, twenty eleven. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: I don't think he was a member of parliament then. 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: But this has become the thing. The journalists want to 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 3: get you. They want to get you. Maybe it's fair enough, 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: as someone here has said, since when did asking a 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: politician's brooking a policy the details of that policy become 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: become gotcha? Journalism. Others are saying, we're not actually learning 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: anything because we're deep diving into these small moments that 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: aren't helping us learn anything about policy. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: What about all the big stuff China, climate change? 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: Maybe the ULARUS statement matters to you them? 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: What's that for the first time ever? 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: But the first nations will have a voice in Parliament, 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: will have it ratified in our constitution. 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Why isn't that already there? 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: Why and why isn't it being discussed in these kind 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: of context. 35 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: Scame O will bang on about this religious discrimination thing. 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't care. Why is he defending that? 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: He'll well, you're going to have to make your own 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: decisions on this. But how do you feel about the 39 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: nature of the gotcha questions? Do they pass the pub test? 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I reckon they really do. I mean, look at mister 41 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Albanisi last week when he said that he's the captain 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: of the team and he's got the change to do that. Well, 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm afraid that in the football team, the captains calling 44 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: the shots because the captain's going to steal the team 45 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: in which way it's going to go. They're only got 46 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: a question when they're asking them something that they're not sprooking. 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: They're sprooking something about their policy, so they should know 48 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: the answer in the story. 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 5: I think I agree with Jonesie and Amanda. Now I'm 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: not really interested in exactly every single point. You know, 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: that is someone else's job. So I don't think it 52 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: passes a pub test. 53 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 6: Of course it does. I don't think they're actually gotcha questions. 54 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 6: The questions and to say when I read the country, 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 6: they should know their thing. We're still waiting for policy 56 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 6: from one side of the thing. How we meant to 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 6: make an informed decision. I don't think they do pass 58 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 6: the pub test. I think politicians should be able to 59 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 6: say I don't know. 60 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: Right now, they. 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 6: Can't say I don't know because the journalists are putting 62 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 6: such a big spin on if they don't. 63 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: Know interesting thoughts because he just ask drum is I 64 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: know a guy, television man 65 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: A camera, Come on, that's important stuff.