1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the acting Superintendent 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: of the Palmerston Road Policing John Ganaine. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 3: John, Good morning Katie. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: Thanks having me, Thanks for joining us this morning. John. 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: We always appreciate your time. 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Now, I know that there's certainly been or there is 8 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: always certainly happening on our roads. Really sadly though, we 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: did see a fatality on Tuesday night, didn't we, involving 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: a motorcycle. 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. It's always a tragedy to lose life 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: on our roads. That's twenty seven for the year, which 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: is slightly up from this time last year. And look 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: the major crash people are investigating that serious tragic incident. 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: All we can say to the public is just look 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: where you're going. Be cognizant that be cognizant that what 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: you think is coming towards you at night time is 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: what you think it is, and be aware that distance 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: judgment can be a problem when the sun's gone down. 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, my heart goes out to I'm 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: sure yours does as well, the family of that young 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: person whose life has been lost. I know that it's 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: an incredibly difficult time and it's also you know, just 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: a reminder I think as well that when a life 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: is lost on the road, it is such a sudden thing, 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: and the ramifications and you know, the impacts all throughout 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the community have felt so broadly. 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: Well, it's right, Katie, and it's the butterfly effect, as 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: they say, and it's red large because you have a 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: young man who's now not going to see another Christmas. 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: He's not going to have children, he won't watch those 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: children grow up, His family won't see him become married 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: or have families of his own. There are employers who 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: have lost a colleague, there are sporting groups that have 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: lost a teammate, and it just goes on and on, 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: and every time we lose a life in their roads, 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: this effect happens, and it's devastating across small, tight knit 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: communities that are typical of the ones we have in 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: the Northern Territory. 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so right, John. 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: How have things been going on our roads over the 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: holiday period? I know that you and I caught up 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: just before the holidays commenced and had a bit of 44 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: a reminder to all of our listeners about some of 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: the different things that they need to make sure that 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: they do to prepare if they're going on a longer trip. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: How have things been well? 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: I remember I had a couple of weeks ago, Cartie, 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if the message had the desired 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: effect that it might have because we didn't. We haven't 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: had a preponderance of collisions or incidents involving things like 52 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: caravans and camp evans and all those other things we 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: talked about, And with the exception of the tragedy that 54 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: happened out at noon tomorrow on Tuesday, in terms of 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 3: collisions and so on, it's actually been quite encouraging. So 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: hopefully this good drive behavior when it comes to holiday 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: periods extends throughout the Christmas period and threw into Easter 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: in the dry season next year. 59 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: We can only hope, John, But I guess it's also 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a reminder for us, you know, to 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: let people know that there are still some who aren't. 62 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Doing the right thing on our roads. 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: What are some of the more serious offenses that you're 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: seeing when you guys are out there policing us. 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: Well, I've got a couple of things, Katie, since you 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: asked yesterday, some of some of our traffic police noticed 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: a car driving down Mitchell Street at about two o'clock 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: Histay afternoon. Was no front number plate, so they pulled 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: that vehicle over and they found a fifty seven year 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: old fellow who appeared to be a bit wobbly on 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: his feet, so the appropriate tests were conducted. He was 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: charged with high range drink driving at e Blue point 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: one five eight at two o'clock in the afternoon, which 74 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: I think we all agree is a fair effort and 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: worthy of balls, perhaps except for the fact that he 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: was driving a motive vehicle at the time. 77 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: Ah, that is unbelievable. John. 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: Now, this fellow also had a warrant for arrest that 79 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: was previously issued by a court for previous traffic matters. 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: So he's got an upcoming date with you, judiciary, and 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: we'll see how that pans out. But our people and 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: myself as well, are extremely pleased that that person was 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: removed from the roads in the manner in which he was. 84 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, spot on. 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the days, everybody's out 86 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: on the roads making sure that they're doing the right thing. 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: But there's also plenty of people driving their children around 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: around the city various other locations throughout the school holidays. 89 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: Presumably the majority are doing the right thing, and then 90 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: you've got somebody who is clearly not who's endangering everybody else. 91 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: I mean, look, frankly, it's a standing to anyone who 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: has an iotor of common sense. I mean, the city 93 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 3: is full of pedestrians as it is, and people legitimately 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: places like Mitchell Street and Smith Street and all those 95 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: sort of places. And you add to that the amount 96 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: of daycare centers and primary schools that are in the 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: exact area this fellow is driving past when he was 98 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: stopped and this menace removed by the traffic police. It 99 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: just beggars belief, it really does. 100 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: Oh, it's disgraceful. Good on the police for apprehending him 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: as there much. What are some of the other sort 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: of serious stuff that you've been. 103 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: Seeing, Well, we found out this week as well. That 104 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: or advice for perhaps the future for some if you're 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: going to go and visit someone that you know who 106 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: is in prison for drug related defending, if you're going 107 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: to go and do that, please don't drive there under 108 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: the influence of drugs or drunk, because that is exactly 109 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: what we found on Tuesday when we conducted an operation 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: in the vicinity of the Holtz Correctional Center. And out 111 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: of a short sample of drivers that we checked, one 112 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: was under the influence of a couple of different illicit drugs. 113 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: And we found yet another person who decided to come 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: in with a skinful and see what happened. And what 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: happened was he got a date with the court. 116 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Goodness me. 117 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: So, firstly, that one who had taken illicit drugs. Do 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: you know what kind of drugs are in that person's system? 119 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: Cannabis and methamphetamone the daily double, both of which obviously 120 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: are dangerous in and of themselves. But when you combine 121 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: the two together and you put someone who's affected by 122 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: both those substances in charge of a motor vehicle is 123 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: a recipe for disaster. And that person and I don't 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: know what that person's history is, but depending on that person, 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: depending on the history that person has, he or she 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: may end up spending a little bit longer at the 127 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: jail than they had originally intended there. 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: I reckon John. 129 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: Any idea of the age of that person who was 130 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: on the daily. 131 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: Double look mid thirties, I believe. But there'll be more 132 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: coming out about that later. 133 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, and a very timely reminder. I mean 134 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: for everybody, no matter where you are, don't get behind 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: the wheel if you've been drinking, and you know I 136 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: don't get behind the wheel if you've been doing drugs. 137 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: It's also a. 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Lot easier these days, isn't it for the police to 139 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: actually test for drugs and for those illicit substances in 140 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: people's systems. 141 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, Katie and Darwen at the very least, 142 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: and we have new and improved drug testing equipment which 143 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: doesn't take as long, It is very easy to handle, 144 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: and it is much more accurate than the older systems 145 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: that we did have. Not that they weren't accurate, they 146 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: just took a bit longer to deliver a result. The 147 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: police in Greater Darwin area have that equipment now and 148 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: are using it and it's about to be rolled out 149 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: territory wide. So if you think you can spend the 150 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: morning on the canes before going to work or play 151 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: footy or whatever you're going to do, or get on 152 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: the pipe, look, just forget about it, because it's very 153 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: very easy to find your way into one of ourselves. 154 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, John, is there a particular road offense that really 155 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: gets under your skin more than anything else, or is 156 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: it just all of them when people are doing the 157 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: wrong thing. 158 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: Oh, look, I think it's been said. I know this 159 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: is a crowd favorite, but I'll say it anyway. It's 160 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: going too slow on the right hand line. The right 161 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: hand lane is for traffic that is moving marginally faster 162 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: than traffic in the left hand lane. And this is 163 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: about flow of traffic. It's about getting from one place 164 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: safety safely to another. And it's actually dangerous if you're 165 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: in the right hand lane and you are going saw 166 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: ten fifteen kilometers below the limit. And if you think 167 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 3: you're you're being extra super safe, you're actually not. You're 168 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: creating a danger for every other road user. 169 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things, isn't it. It does sort 170 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: of tend to annoy people, and interesting to hear that 171 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: it also annoys the police. 172 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: Oh it is. There's a ticket for it. Yeah, guarantee 173 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: it's an offense. 174 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: Well, what else? I mean? 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: I know that there are certainly some age groups that 176 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: are our biggest defenders, or I'm. 177 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: Assuming that there are. 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: Is that the case, not just for that particular offense, 179 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: but for everything. 180 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: I'll look not real, not really your younger drivers. Your 181 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: younger drivers are more liable to commit your lower end 182 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: speeding offenses and do things like added things like giving 183 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: way and traveling through amberlites right at the death before 184 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: they turn read and all that sort of stuff. And 185 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: that's possibly because the novelty of having a license and 186 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: still being able to drive around a car on their 187 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: own has yet to wear off and all that sort 188 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: of stuff. But with the older demographic, and particularly what 189 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: we find in the rural areas with medium range drink 190 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: driving in particular is complacency. And people think that I've 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: had a license for fifteen, twenty, twenty five to thirty years, 192 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing, there's no cops here. I'll 193 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: get by just as just the way I've always done. 194 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: And invariably some of these people come in for a 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: root shock. 196 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet so, John. 197 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: What are you asking the community to do today in 198 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: terms of changing some of that behavior and doing the 199 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: right thing on our roads. 200 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: Look, it's about it's about not being selfish, That's pretty 201 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: much it. Because as soon as you take to the 202 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: road with a steering wheel in your hand, your actions 203 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: have the ability to directly impact countless lives of other people. 204 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: It's not just about you. It's not about you, it's 205 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: about every other person on the road as soon as 206 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: you enter it. I just ask people to just take 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: that into account. You'll get there safely, You'll get there 208 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: in one piece. Time is not a matter if you 209 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: lose two or three minutes. By driving safely and taking 210 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: into account what other people are doing on the raid, 211 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: make eye contact with other drivers, introduce an element of 212 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 3: personality into it. There's not just another car, there's another 213 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: person behind that wheel. If people just do that from 214 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: time to time, or even better make a habit of it, 215 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: I think we see in general terms a dramatic increase 216 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: and long behavior. 217 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Well, John Ganaine, it is always good to catch up 218 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: with you. I really appreciate your time. I know that 219 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: you and all of our traffic police will, all of 220 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: our Northern Territory police are incredibly busy. We appreciate you 221 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: taking the time to have a chat with us this. 222 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: Morning, anytime, Katie. Thank you,