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Speaker 1: Joining us in the studio is the Assistant Commissioner of

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police, Travis Worth. Good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, morning Kady, morning to your lists.

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Speaker 1: Now, it sounds like it was a fairly busy night

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Speaker 1: last night. I know the Northern Territory Police have arrested

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Speaker 1: three people following separate unlawful entries across the Greater Darwin region.

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Speaker 1: How many break ins are we talking from overnight?

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Speaker 3: So, unfortunately overnight there were a total of six. We

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Speaker 3: had three residential premises and three commercial premises. Thankfully police

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Speaker 3: were able to respond to the three commercial locations. So

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Speaker 3: we had a licensed premises and PRAP, a restaurant on

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Speaker 3: the Esplanade and a service station in Winelli. Each of

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Speaker 3: those were unlawfully entered by different individuals and police arrested

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Speaker 3: one person for the matter at PRAP. He was a

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Speaker 3: youth that returned home to be considered for diversion. There

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Speaker 3: are rather people involved in that where that matters under

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Speaker 3: investigation by Trident. The service station, a thirty seven year

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Speaker 3: old male was arrested and has been dealt with for

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Speaker 3: that matter, and two people were arrested to adults were

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Speaker 3: arrested for the unload of entry on the actually called

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Speaker 3: burglaries now sorry on the s flat so the residential

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Speaker 3: unlack for entries, all of those are still under investigation.

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Speaker 3: We actually had one stolen car as a consequence, and

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Speaker 3: unfortunately there was one unlocked door and that's where that

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Speaker 3: car was stolen from.

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Speaker 2: Just made it very easy.

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Speaker 3: I spoke to a person on the weekend who had

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Speaker 3: been a victim of unlall entry previously. He put up

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Speaker 3: some CCTV at his house and most recently what he's

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Speaker 3: seen is just people opportunistically coming and just trying his

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Speaker 3: door and the door and then not locked and sorry

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Speaker 3: locked and then walking away opportunistic criminals. You need to

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Speaker 3: do everything you can personally, as much as it might

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Speaker 3: irk you, to make your property, your family as safe

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Speaker 3: as possible.

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Speaker 2: That means locking your door.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like last night though, there were with those

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Speaker 1: commercial properties, particularly that they actually had CCTV and they

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Speaker 1: were able to contact you guys pretty well immediately. Is

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Speaker 1: that right?

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Speaker 3: So one the restaurant was we were notified by a

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Speaker 3: security company the unlawful entry at the licensed premises in

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Speaker 3: perap the unlawful entry occurred, the offenders dispersed from the area,

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Speaker 3: but our CCTV operators within the Joint Emergency Services Communications

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Speaker 3: Center monitored that activity and we're able to direct police

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Speaker 3: to the seventeen year old who was arrested for that offending.

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Speaker 3: Said he was subsequently released to be diverted. So that

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Speaker 3: just shows a game that twenty four to seven police

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Speaker 3: have got their eyes on what's happening across the territory

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Speaker 3: and we'll use our tools to be able to try

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Speaker 3: and deter the offending in the first place.

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Speaker 2: That's the best place we can be.

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Speaker 3: But if it does occur, excuse me, if it does occur,

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Speaker 3: we use that skill, of those skills to be able

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Speaker 3: to arrest those offenders.

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Speaker 1: Now, it sounds like it was a pretty busy weekend.

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Speaker 1: We know it was a massive weekend right across the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory with the Darwen Cup Carnival and plenty of

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Speaker 1: other events. People seem to be pretty well behaved at

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Speaker 1: all those events. We did have a few incidences from

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Speaker 1: what I can gather of crime. Well, there was a

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Speaker 1: blowcas I understand it assaulted in a nulla and there

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Speaker 1: was a knife involved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was the Annuller incident was started in

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Speaker 3: a residence residential address in that area, and that's spilt

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Speaker 3: people fighting and as a consequence of that, one male

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Speaker 3: assault at another there was a weapon used as you described.

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Speaker 3: That matter is currently being investigated by crime.

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Speaker 1: Were they known to each other? Were?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Now tell me as well. I know that there were

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Speaker 1: a few incidents, and I know that you're obviously you

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Speaker 1: know you are based here in Darwin, but it looks

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Speaker 1: like there are a few instances in Catherine and also

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Speaker 1: in Alice Springs, particularly in Catherine. I believe that, well,

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Speaker 1: the Dog Operations Unit were out there pretty fast to

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Speaker 1: try and assist with one of those incidents in particular,

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Speaker 1: and we're able to apprehend a bloke I think I

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Speaker 1: read he tried to swim across the Catherine River. I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I believe that the Dog Operations Unit,

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Speaker 1: I think it was Daily, a police dog Daily who

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Speaker 1: ended up apprehending it.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: So that the eighteen year old that we arrested on

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Speaker 3: this occasion, police had been trying to apprehend him for

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Speaker 3: personal violence offenses for some time. He's absconded or avoided

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Speaker 3: apprehension by swimming across the river on one occasion. So

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Speaker 3: on this occasion, yes, we use the police dog and

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Speaker 3: the dog did tracked, identified and then was used to

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Speaker 1: Those dogs and their handlers do a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic They're an amazing tool for the territory and they yeah,

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Speaker 3: we've got them now obviously in Darwen, Catherine and Alice

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Speaker 2: They do in a fantastic job.

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Speaker 1: Now, Travis, we did get contacted by a lady yesterday

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Speaker 1: who'd been staying in Jabbarou camping in Jabbaru. She says

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Speaker 1: when people were out there obviously just trying to enjoy

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Speaker 3: So I've had a bit of a look at the

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Speaker 3: events in Jabbaru over that particular night. There was two

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Speaker 3: aware that a phone call was made to the police

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Speaker 3: station that was unattended and the message was left on

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Speaker 3: the answering machine there. Police weren't on duty at that

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Speaker 3: point in time, so they were never going to provide

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Speaker 3: a response. As a consequence of that, I encourage people

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Speaker 3: to use one three, one trip be four as their

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Speaker 3: will allow anywhere in the territory for you to bring

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Speaker 3: there have access to all of the police at every

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Speaker 3: they'll call police out to provide a response. In this

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Speaker 3: particular incidence, would seem that there were people loitering around

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Speaker 3: this particular car park or this location. There's no offenses

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Speaker 1: The no break ins or anything.

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Speaker 2: So there was, but not at that location, if that

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Speaker 2: makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So there were two unlawful entries reported that night in Jabbaru,

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Speaker 3: but not at the location where I understand the purse

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Speaker 3: your caller was staying. It would have been confronting for

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Speaker 3: that person absolutely hearing footprints, sorry footsteps past their tent,

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Speaker 3: and I encourage in the future for those anyone who's

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is that when she couldn't get through to

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Speaker 3: Look, I've explored that as well, and I can't find

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Speaker 3: a record, but that doesn't mean it's not there. I

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Speaker 3: But I encourage people to use one three, one triple

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Speaker 3: four in the first instance when it's not necessarily an emergency.

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Speaker 1: Hey, one of the other things that we've had a

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Speaker 1: listener getting contact with us about is the car being

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Speaker 1: to what air is that? I mean, are we in

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Speaker 2: Look. I understand there was.

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Speaker 3: Maybe two vehicles that were stolen from the greata Daoen

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Speaker 3: West Daily area. Again, we've seen that previously when there

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Speaker 3: are people in town at times, they they and lawful

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Speaker 3: we've had cars go to other locations as well.

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Speaker 1: Are we still seeing the same level of criminal behavior

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Speaker 1: being shared on the likes of TikTok as what we

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Speaker 1: had seen in you know, sort of towards the beginning

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Speaker 1: there were those instances where in Catherine, for example, the

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Speaker 1: police vehicles had been rammed and then some of that

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Speaker 1: vision being on social media. Are you seeing as much

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it has still occurred, and obviously there was

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Speaker 3: as as it being as frequent as it was previously.

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Speaker 2: And that's not just in our jurisdiction.

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Speaker 3: I've had contact with colleagues in Queensland and Western Australia

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Speaker 3: where they too have suffered from the copycatting that comes

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Speaker 3: from social media, and they're not seeing as much of

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Speaker 1: What's changed there is something change.

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Speaker 2: It's just the individuals who are committing the offenses.

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Speaker 3: The behavior doesn't mean it won't occur again at some

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Speaker 3: point in the future when different different cohorts become involved

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Speaker 3: good thing that's not occurring as frequently because it reduces

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Speaker 3: that copycatting absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Now, Assistant Commissioner, I do want to ask we've spoken,

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Speaker 1: we've spoken before about the age of criminal responsibility going up.

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Speaker 1: There had been some concerns last week that not all

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Speaker 1: where are things at well.

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Speaker 3: I'll just provide some context to your listeners. So obviously

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Speaker 3: there was an announcement ade by government, but that initial

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Speaker 3: As a consequence of that work, we started engaging with

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Speaker 3: so that they knew want to say, a long time ago,

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Speaker 3: earlier this year, so that they knew that this change

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Speaker 3: that sergeants could learn what it meant, and then when

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Speaker 3: we had the announcement around when the actual age of

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Speaker 3: criminal Responsibility was to occur, they would have the tools

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Speaker 3: and the ability to be able to then engage with their.

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Speaker 2: Front line offices.

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Speaker 3: We've developed an online training package which is available for

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Speaker 3: everyone to complete that was rolled out the week prior.

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Speaker 3: We've been engaging with our people about this from as

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Speaker 3: early as I said June. So, yes, there might be

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Speaker 3: some people out there who think that they require more information.

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Speaker 3: We're happy to support those individuals. But the reality is

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Speaker 3: the age of Criminal Responsibility. What it means is the

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Speaker 3: way we would treat eight to nine year old children previously.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly how we do with ten and eleven year olds.

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Speaker 3: With the added bonus of the on the Right Track

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Speaker 3: program through Territory, Families, Housing and Community that it gives

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Speaker 3: us the tools to be able to refer those young

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Speaker 2: We've done the same for the.

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Speaker 3: Young people who went through the court system who had

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Speaker 3: their matters withdrawn on the first of August. There's referrals

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Speaker 3: that have occurred youth that were in diversion, We've done

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Speaker 3: the same, They've been referred to territory families. So there's

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Speaker 3: been this linkage between thirty one July and one August

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Speaker 3: when everything changed to make sure that those young people

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Speaker 3: are still supported and in programs and processes to make

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Speaker 3: sure that they're no longer engaged with the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 1: I guess the concern is all the concern that's been

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Speaker 1: raised by the Police Association is that some of those

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Speaker 1: officers are obviously worried that they haven't had adequate training.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if there are people that haven't had that

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Speaker 1: adequate training, or that feel as though they haven't do

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Speaker 1: the police sor have opened themselves up to two issues here.

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Speaker 3: Look, I would suggest that any officer who is in

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Speaker 3: a situation where they're dealing with a young person that

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Speaker 3: requires some form of action, they confirm that young person's

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Speaker 3: between the age of ten and eleven.

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Speaker 2: If they are unsure twenty four to seven, we've got

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Speaker 2: the territory duty superintendent.

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Speaker 3: We've got to watch commander on duty both in Dale

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Speaker 3: and other springs. Individuals are well versed and knowledgeable in

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Speaker 3: this information. They're not alone in any decision making that

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Speaker 3: they have, and I trust that, in good faith all

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Speaker 3: our officers will do the right thing. And if they

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Speaker 3: have concerns, as I've said, and if they're listening today,

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Speaker 3: please ask those questions.

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Speaker 2: And we'll make sure that any gaps you have in

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Speaker 2: your knowledge is filled well.

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Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner Travis Wurst, we will leave it there. Good

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Speaker 1: to speak with you this morning. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: your time, fantastic, Thank it