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Speaker 1: Today's episode of the podcast, I'm.
Speaker 3: Joined by the official winners of the Amazing Race Celebrity edition.
Speaker 3: It is the very gracious and enigmatic TV host and
Speaker 3: actor presenter Darren McMullen and he's nephew Tristan. We do
Speaker 3: have the band back together today via zoom and we're
Speaker 3: going to get some pretty exciting stories from the mcmully
Speaker 3: family as I'm sure they're not going to censor themselves
Speaker 3: as they unpack their time on Amazing Race Australia. Darren
Speaker 3: McMullin is a Scottish Australian personality who has been entertaining
Speaker 3: audiences since I'm assuming the day he was born.
Speaker 1: He was born though in Glasgow, Scotland, and immigrated with
Speaker 1: his family to Australia at the age of twelve.
Speaker 3: He's best known as the co host of The Voice Australia,
Speaker 3: but has gone on to many other exciting roles right
Speaker 3: across all the Freeedoware networks. He was one of the
Speaker 3: biggest names to join the celebrity version of the hit show,
Speaker 3: and boy does he know how to make a TV
Speaker 3: moment and raise revenue for charities. The boys did an
Speaker 3: outstanding job and brought down their house with an emotional
Speaker 3: end of the series that will be remembered as one
Speaker 3: of the most iconic finales ever. I will find out
Speaker 3: about his rift with George from Australian Survivor and what
Speaker 3: he thought about taking on a Wiggle and a Simpson
Speaker 3: in that finale. Tristan will also talk about why he's
Speaker 3: been turned off working in television and what Uncle Darren
Speaker 3: is really like. Between takes, Darren will share his rationale
Speaker 3: in creating that heroic and generous end of the series,
Speaker 3: with details about a final call to a senior executive
Speaker 3: at network ten Plus. We will get plenty of exclusives
Speaker 3: from behind the scenes of The Amazing Race Australia Celebrity Edition,
Speaker 3: which if you missed that finale you should catch up
Speaker 3: on Tenplay. Anyway, guys, let's bring Darren and Tristan into
Speaker 3: the podcast, and George, if you're listening, maybe go and
Speaker 3: take a walk outside while I talked to the boys
Speaker 3: about their amazing time on The Amazing Race Australia Celebrity Edition.
Speaker 2: Is Darren?
Speaker 1: Is that one lovely Tristan? You're very handsome?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Is that how they cast you on the show? Did
Speaker 3: Darren have to go find, you know, attractive family members?
Speaker 2: Is that my my cousin would have taken that price.
Speaker 4: I don't think Tristan wants anything to do with television ever.
Speaker 3: Again, Darren, the last time I spoke to you was
Speaker 3: like early in the morning, and then I had all
Speaker 3: these comments about people saying how sexual.
Speaker 4: Sexual I was not. I'm just always horny. It's all
Speaker 4: the it's all the bullpiness that we ate on the
Speaker 4: on the Amazing Race, keeping it frisky.
Speaker 3: One of the other contestants was saying, you know that
Speaker 3: they would be doing the race and then they would
Speaker 3: also you could organize massages back at the hotel room,
Speaker 3: and I was thinking, in those countries, that sounds that
Speaker 3: sounds interesting.
Speaker 4: I didn't know about the massages back in the hotel room,
Speaker 4: did you trist them?
Speaker 5: Must have been it, Teddian, Harry Princes.
Speaker 3: They booked out everyone in the in the different patricks. Anyway,
Speaker 3: congratulations on winning the Amazing Race.
Speaker 1: Boys. You both did such a good job. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you though, the end result was
Speaker 3: a great example of sportsmanship. You know you both did win,
Speaker 3: but that decision to share the experience that win with
Speaker 3: everyone else in their charities, how long had you been
Speaker 3: thinking about doing that.
Speaker 4: I think we discussed it the night before. It was
Speaker 4: probably percolating maybe a few days for me, and you
Speaker 4: know it was hard to say if we'd even make
Speaker 4: the final, but you know, by that stage you're so exhausted,
Speaker 4: you haven't really slept, you haven't eaten much, you're so
Speaker 4: invested in the race, and I just was kind of
Speaker 4: putting myself in a runners up scenario and thinking, God,
Speaker 4: if I went all this distance and walked away with
Speaker 4: absolutely nothing for our charity, I'd be devastated. And I
Speaker 4: don't want anyone to feel that. So I think it
Speaker 4: would be nice if we kind of can share the
Speaker 4: win with everyone, and it's you know, they can at
Speaker 4: least walk away with something for their charity. Because I
Speaker 4: got speaking because it wasn't really much time to catch
Speaker 4: up with everybody and talk about everything. So a few
Speaker 4: days before I kind of had the opportunity to speak
Speaker 4: to Emma and Haley and Angie and Ali about what
Speaker 4: their charities meant to them and why they chose those charities,
Speaker 4: and you know, I was welling up as they were
Speaker 4: telling their story of Leonie Jackson and also and with
Speaker 4: her mum who's got dementia, and I thought, God, you know,
Speaker 4: they're all here, you know, in their charities mean as
Speaker 4: much to them as mine does to me, and it
Speaker 4: just would be such a shame to not get anything.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, once Tristan and I started talking
Speaker 4: about it was a no brainer. We thought, look, we're
Speaker 4: gonna have to work very very hard to win this
Speaker 4: race because you know, we just knew there was going
Speaker 4: to be dancing challenges and stuff like that. We felt
Speaker 4: it it was probably going to be geared up maybe
Speaker 4: for us not to win. And I said, if we're
Speaker 4: going to win this, we have to be extra extra
Speaker 4: good to win this because it's not geared up for
Speaker 4: us to win. All female suo has never won the
Speaker 4: Amazing Race, and I really think they wanted an all
Speaker 4: female duo to win the Amazing Race at the Tricka done.
Speaker 4: And we pulled off the miracle and we and we
Speaker 4: got to that position and thankfully we're able to share
Speaker 4: that with everyone else.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask Tristan that conversation would have
Speaker 3: been great to have. Did you have conversations with the
Speaker 3: producers about making that happen or was it a surprise
Speaker 3: to everyone who was filming.
Speaker 2: I'm prett sure it was a surprise to everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I spoke to one of the heads at ten
Speaker 4: just to float it from a legality point of view.
Speaker 4: I said, listen, this is what if we do win,
Speaker 4: we would like to do this. Is there any complications
Speaker 4: with that, because if there's money involved, I know sometimes
Speaker 4: that can get convoluted with contracts and things. And I said, look,
Speaker 4: just you know, I've spoke to my charity. They're okay
Speaker 4: with that, so it's not a matter of us robbing
Speaker 4: money from them or whatever. It's you know, you know,
Speaker 4: they're happy to do that. We're happy to do that.
Speaker 4: Is there any kind of legal complications there that you
Speaker 4: couldn't pay all these charities? And he checked out and
Speaker 4: came back and said, no, no, you're all good. He said,
Speaker 4: but please, if you don't, don't mention this to anyone else.
Speaker 4: So no, we didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a great TV moment. Network ten
Speaker 3: would have been rubbing their hands together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I was even I was bloody crying
Speaker 4: last night watching it too. It was especially because I saw,
Speaker 4: like for the first time what the girl's train ride
Speaker 4: was like. So Emma and Haley just so deflated on
Speaker 4: that train thinking they were going to come into second place,
Speaker 4: and you know, almost in tears, and that was so
Speaker 4: heartbreaking to watch. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm so thankful, more now than ever that we split
Speaker 4: the win with everyone, because I mean that that could
Speaker 4: have been ours, that could have been us rolling second
Speaker 4: on the on the train and gone ship man. We
Speaker 4: lost it on the final the final challenge, because I
Speaker 4: mean sometimes they there's a little tom foolery with the editing.
Speaker 4: This is one of the things Tristan hates about television land.
Speaker 4: You know, it was edited obviously to make it a
Speaker 4: lot closer than what it was, but realistically, you know,
Speaker 4: Emma and Haley were significantly in front all day. No
Speaker 4: one was close. We were never it said in what
Speaker 4: at one point we were first? We were never first.
Speaker 4: We were always very far behind em and Haley the
Speaker 4: whole time. And in the dance challenge, we're like, I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, they were out right away what one go,
Speaker 4: and they were phenomenal at it, and.
Speaker 2: We were there.
Speaker 4: We're probably about forty five minutes behind them. At least
Speaker 4: we thought probably we lost it by that stage. And
Speaker 4: then when we got to the puzzle, I was surprised
Speaker 4: to still see them, and my little lady HD brain
Speaker 4: kicked in and went a bit rain manish and noticed
Speaker 4: anomalies and photos that other people hadn't maybe noticed, and yeah,
Speaker 4: we were in front, so We're lucky enough to to
Speaker 4: get in front and be able to split the money
Speaker 4: with everyone. So it was a good feeling and it
Speaker 4: felt right and I'm glad we did it.
Speaker 1: Tristan.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, did you have to
Speaker 3: rely on Uncle Dae to tell you who these other
Speaker 3: celebrities were? Did you know who all of these Australian
Speaker 3: celebrity television personalities were.
Speaker 2: I think it was a mixed bag for both of us. Actually.
Speaker 5: I think on the plane over I recognized Harry and
Speaker 5: and Janna, and you recognized Ben and Ben and Jackie.
Speaker 2: Then we got there, obviously that was Grant and how Andergie.
Speaker 2: Did we all knew? And then there was a few
Speaker 2: others I think we were didn't add know at all?
Speaker 4: I don't know at all. Yeah, that was pretty bad.
Speaker 4: I was like, who's this did calling himself like Prince
Speaker 4: and Georgia like that. It's like King George? Who's this guy?
Speaker 4: King George? And apparently he was on like The Survivor.
Speaker 3: I think he savaged you on the podcast when he
Speaker 3: was on here, and I'm sorry for that, but I
Speaker 3: feel like that's the only negative response that you've probably got,
Speaker 3: you know, from the contestants or even from the people online.
Speaker 4: There's usually the odd hater that comes out, but there's
Speaker 4: been none of that.
Speaker 2: There was there was one. I saw there was one.
Speaker 4: This was one.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Oh god, there's always one.
Speaker 3: People that savaging your guys online. I was thought that
Speaker 3: everyone would have been pretty happy with you.
Speaker 4: No, it's like, it's that's what we're just saying. It's
Speaker 4: like unbelievable amount of positive and love. And because we're
Speaker 4: just saying, there's usually always one or two assholes and ah,
Speaker 4: but it's like thousands and thousands of comments and there's
Speaker 4: a lot of backhanded ones too. I used to hate
Speaker 4: that guy, but no, I like, I mean the backhanded
Speaker 4: ones too, but yeah, like it's just all love. But
Speaker 4: then Tristan said that there was one shit comment of
Speaker 4: all the thousands, and I was like, oh, yeah, what
Speaker 4: was it and what did he say?
Speaker 2: It's very self serving, in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Self serving? What more self Well, if we take all
Speaker 4: the money, that's self serve, but if we split the money,
Speaker 4: that's also self serving.
Speaker 3: So it's actually it's actually madness, like there's no right
Speaker 3: way of doing it. When I watched the last when
Speaker 3: I watched it last night. I was thinking, people are
Speaker 3: going to say, Darren knows a TV moment. This is
Speaker 3: about branding, This is about making him look good, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, you can never please the audience,
Speaker 3: and especially the type of I think you call them
Speaker 3: debbies now because you can't call them Karen's because Karen's
Speaker 3: now think that's racist against Karen's. But debbies are like
Speaker 3: right onto it, They're like, you know, how can I
Speaker 3: get as many clicks or reactions to people online? I
Speaker 3: need to say the opposite. That's polarizing to get people
Speaker 3: to interact with me, to get attention.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty sad, but yeah, I'm surprised there's been
Speaker 4: none of that. It's all been really, really, really positive.
Speaker 4: And I think that comes because it's a genuine moment.
Speaker 4: In these TV moments, you can you can tell when
Speaker 4: they're TV moments. And I think it all happened so
Speaker 4: quick and it was real, and I think, you know,
Speaker 4: you can see from everybody's reaction it's real. And you know,
Speaker 4: you were so invested with the show and the charity
Speaker 4: but also these people by this stage, and you just
Speaker 4: didn't want people to leave empty hand to do It
Speaker 4: was simple as that, because I mean I just put
Speaker 4: myself in their choose and I thought I would be
Speaker 4: fucking devastated, so let's not let that happen.
Speaker 3: I literally proposed on national television and the next hour
Speaker 3: I was like, that's going to be great for marriage equality.
Speaker 1: And the comments online was what a narcissist?
Speaker 3: I mean, it did not help my case that I
Speaker 3: was proposing to a man who looked like me.
Speaker 1: That name was Ben.
Speaker 4: There's something sort of narcissistic about that, really, the callowing
Speaker 4: yourself King Ben.
Speaker 3: I think the king name has already been taken. But
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you what did you make
Speaker 3: of Grant Daniel leaving an episode two?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like he earned his paycheck?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of missed. I missed up again
Speaker 4: because we were we were we were up the front,
Speaker 4: you know, so we first and I off the back
Speaker 4: of the first episode. To be honest, we find it
Speaker 4: really easy. Like the episode we found so easy. And
Speaker 4: what they didn't show in the actual episode was we
Speaker 4: fucked that wedding dress photo ops so many times. We
Speaker 4: had to go back and forward six times in this
Speaker 4: insane heat, and I was and every time I was
Speaker 4: smiling and laughing and having a good time, and even
Speaker 4: though we had to do it so many times, we
Speaker 4: were still a good forty five an hour in front
Speaker 4: of everyone, and we're like and everyone after we're speaking
Speaker 4: to them, they're like, oh my god, this is so brutal.
Speaker 4: I can't cope with this. And we were kind of
Speaker 4: looking at each other, gone, what I mean, we're playing
Speaker 4: a different game, because that was really easy for us.
Speaker 4: So when Grant had fainted and like in that second episode,
Speaker 4: it was kind of a bit unbelievable to us because
Speaker 4: we were doing a little Bollywood dance like it wasn't
Speaker 4: It wasn't like we were on some extreme kind of
Speaker 4: like me show or something, you know, like it's I
Speaker 4: was just.
Speaker 3: Wondering whether Grant Daniel just agreed to doing the show
Speaker 3: because they said to him, if you want to be
Speaker 3: the host of Deal or No Deal, you've got to
Speaker 3: do the amazing race first. And he was like all right,
Speaker 3: and then he was like, you know, nudging his wife
Speaker 3: and was like, I'm going to pretend to pass out
Speaker 3: and then I believe that pull Deal on No Deal
Speaker 3: from me.
Speaker 4: I mean to be fair, When you watch it, it
Speaker 4: does look like a really bad, bad acting job. But
Speaker 4: as having spoke to them offline, I think they were,
Speaker 4: like I think they were truly like gut it to
Speaker 4: be going home, especially because you don't nobody wants to
Speaker 4: be first or second. That's that's kind of shit, you know.
Speaker 4: I think they were both because I did see a
Speaker 4: lot of people saying, oh that that seemed fake. And
Speaker 4: by the way, and when I looked at it, I
Speaker 4: also thought that it did seem a bit like, really,
Speaker 4: I mean, are you actually fainting here? It seems a
Speaker 4: bit much, But that's how it looked on the on
Speaker 4: the camera. But I think the reality being there and
Speaker 4: speaking to them after like they were. I mean I
Speaker 4: spoke to Chezy directly after. She was absolutely devastated and
Speaker 4: worried for him too, like severely worried that he that
Speaker 4: he'd done some permanent damage there. And actually when I
Speaker 4: when I watched, because they used a clip of it
Speaker 4: again last night, when he's kind of saying, oh man,
Speaker 4: we just had a great time, and he's on the
Speaker 4: carpet and he's slurring his words a bit, and he's
Speaker 4: almost seemed like he's really drunk, And I think that's
Speaker 4: you know that kind of what happens when you have
Speaker 4: that severe dehydration. And of course shortly after that he
Speaker 4: ended up fainting again. So yeah, he does look really,
Speaker 4: really sick in that last bit where he's you know,
Speaker 4: like thanking Bo for being there. So it was a shame.
Speaker 4: I think he would have liked to have at least
Speaker 4: made it, you know, to another country. And yeah, and
Speaker 4: by the way, I was, I was kind acosted because
Speaker 4: I've not really met Grant Denny here and you know,
Speaker 4: with some similar jobs, I guess, and it would have
Speaker 4: been good to catch up with them along the way.
Speaker 3: Well, I said to Bow at the start of this,
Speaker 3: I was like, have you got Darren McMullan and Grant
Speaker 3: Dania in case you get sick, you know, with like
Speaker 3: balimelly or something, so that they can stand in as
Speaker 3: a TV host, Like, you know, just bring a couple
Speaker 3: of backups.
Speaker 1: Is Steven Tighter Channel ten. You know, we've got it covered.
Speaker 4: Bo would never let me stand in from you never
Speaker 4: get that position back. I'll be holding on to that type.
Speaker 1: Well, if he does get you can always jump in.
Speaker 4: You get to travel the Yeah, well he said to
Speaker 4: me a lot Darren it's bloody tough. You're the only
Speaker 4: person that I know that could do a show like this. Man,
Speaker 4: it's bloody tough. I'm like, bo, you have to remember
Speaker 4: a number between one and twelve. Bro, it's not that hard.
Speaker 4: Come on, let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Might be hid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, see you are the fifth I mean, it's really
Speaker 4: it's it's it's bloody. It's a bloody good job you've got.
Speaker 4: You get to travel the world. Well, you get to
Speaker 4: you know, see these amazing places, and yeah, I would
Speaker 4: love I'd love to have the amazing race.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean it's not all as flashy as its signs,
Speaker 4: even for him, because I mean he do. You would
Speaker 4: do grueling days running around trying to do all those links,
Speaker 4: dealing with all the kind of chaos that you deal
Speaker 4: with in third world countries and things. I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people think it's like doing getaway or something.
Speaker 4: We've stayed in five star resorts, But it's not that.
Speaker 4: It's not that, but it's still be bloody fun. No.
Speaker 3: I think if you asked me to do that, i'd
Speaker 3: say get away, not a TV show get away.
Speaker 1: I think that would be it.
Speaker 4: In saying that, you know, obviously we got a route
Speaker 4: awakening a few episodes in because it started to get
Speaker 4: very very hard for us. So for whatever reason that
Speaker 4: those first ones that everyone finds super gruelling were pretty
Speaker 4: easy for us, but more than mind fuck later caught
Speaker 4: us out.
Speaker 5: I guess we were so appy as well. Yeah, we
Speaker 5: really wanted it straight away. We went in all guns blazing.
Speaker 4: We were probably benefited from more physical stuff, and it
Speaker 4: was it was quite clear. Halfway through the show. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh shit, we're gonna get no physical stuff here.
Speaker 4: It's all going to be a little I called it
Speaker 4: the place school challenges. Oh another place school challenge is okay,
Speaker 4: this is not for Emma Haley again. Is it like
Speaker 4: making boats or making shoes? Doing a dance routine? Oh no,
Speaker 4: we're singing again.
Speaker 1: Oh right, Christan.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, though you know all
Speaker 3: of this TV experience, now you can see what uncle does.
Speaker 3: Any chance of you know, following his footsteps, some wanting
Speaker 3: to work in television?
Speaker 5: Not a chance, not a chance, seeing all the drama
Speaker 5: that goes on behind TV, It's not for me.
Speaker 1: What did you learn about your own quis?
Speaker 3: Did you learn anything about him being able to make
Speaker 3: some television with him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it was awesome to step into his world
Speaker 5: as well, Like as soon as that that red light
Speaker 5: goes on, he's just a different person. Like there's so
Speaker 5: many mornings we'd wake up and hadn't had a coffee yet,
Speaker 5: and then it's grumpy, and then since the camera's rolling
Speaker 5: is ready to go, I'm like, okay, that's a change
Speaker 5: from two minutes ago.
Speaker 3: I remember watching Darren posting the voice one time and
Speaker 3: sorry about this, Darren, just to tell Tristan this story
Speaker 3: and the rest of Australia. I remember watching you on
Speaker 3: the sidelines. You looked grumpy and miserable. You looked a
Speaker 3: bit hungover maybe, and then out of nowhere they said
Speaker 3: action and you were majestic like it just you have
Speaker 3: to be able to have seen it with your own
Speaker 3: eyes to see that transformation and that it's magic time.
Speaker 2: Like Tristan's so quiet, we never to hear from him.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't think people understand, like
Speaker 5: how funny our interviews are with Darren just talking for
Speaker 5: an hour, like you have the whole.
Speaker 2: Show of just the interview.
Speaker 4: A lot of it can be used quite crude in
Speaker 4: my interviews, and I think especially because of what happened
Speaker 4: at the end. They maybe didn't want to play a
Speaker 4: lot of my more snippy bits of the interview because
Speaker 4: they wanted people to like me, I guess, and they thought, well,
Speaker 4: if we actually show the world what it's really like,
Speaker 4: the fucking ate them.
Speaker 1: I still can't.
Speaker 3: Get over how many people commented about some of them,
Speaker 3: like we were chatting only last year, maybe it was
Speaker 3: the sound of this year. I can't remember it well,
Speaker 3: little not that long ago, and yes, you were so
Speaker 3: funny and like people were loving it and I got
Speaker 3: a lot of downloads, which is great, But some people
Speaker 3: were like, oh, I think you need to put an
Speaker 3: X rated rating on any chats with Darren someone.
Speaker 4: It's just like people are so precious, now, aren't they.
Speaker 4: So the amount of hate you get for like I mean,
Speaker 4: we were sarcastic as fuck and blatant jokes, and some
Speaker 4: of them made it to air, others did it. But
Speaker 4: the ones that made it to air you inevitably have
Speaker 4: a hundred people going, I can't believe you said that.
Speaker 4: What is wrong with you? Like it's fucking sarcasm, Like,
Speaker 4: what is wrong with you? I think the one that
Speaker 4: springs to mind I was wearing a T shirt with
Speaker 4: a taj Mahal on it and it was a laundry
Speaker 4: challenge that day and we were disastrous at it. It was
Speaker 4: bloody hilstones, it was sand blowing up in the washing.
Speaker 4: It was an absolute nightmare, the weather and everything else.
Speaker 4: And I think the producer asked, what don't you do
Speaker 4: your own laundry down It's like, I don't do laundry,
Speaker 4: of course I don't. I just buy a shirt and
Speaker 4: wear it once and then throw it out and then
Speaker 4: just probably said that, well you hope so because that
Speaker 4: one stinks. Then the amount of people that were like,
Speaker 4: I can't believe you would do that and just just
Speaker 4: consuming into this fast fashion world and do you know
Speaker 4: how many gallons of water that are wasted per year?
Speaker 4: And because of people throwing out clothes, I'm like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I don't actually wear a shirt once and
Speaker 4: throw it out. And if you think I do, you
Speaker 4: need your head examined, like what is wrong with you?
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm wearing a souvenir haaj Mahole
Speaker 4: T shirt which I bought from the family that probably
Speaker 4: made it in India. I mean it's more it's direct
Speaker 4: to customer as you can get you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: Also, I feel like we now know that the Simpsons
Speaker 3: kids get their dance moves from well, not their mother,
Speaker 3: someone else in the family.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Jesus, yeah that was I thought we were
Speaker 4: bad in the dance Challenge and hating it actually because
Speaker 4: Ange was always smiling to my knowledge throat most of
Speaker 4: the show. And I did realize, like in the when
Speaker 4: I watched that episode last night, she seemed a little
Speaker 4: bit deflated throughout the whole final I think I think
Speaker 4: her back was really really killing her, and I think
Speaker 4: everyone was maybe just a bit worn down. But it
Speaker 4: did stand out to me because she was so happy
Speaker 4: all the time. I thought, oh fuck, I wonder what
Speaker 4: happened that she was a little bit down through that
Speaker 4: whole out.
Speaker 5: I kind of realized they were up against Emma and
Speaker 5: us and like there was nobody really else they could
Speaker 5: rely on to be behind them.
Speaker 3: The snake looked pretty intimidating, Darren. You weren't that intimidated
Speaker 3: by a big snake? Obviously they got one of the pants.
Speaker 3: Didn't you actually look genuinely terrified? Because you watch a
Speaker 3: lot of these shows like I'm a celebrity, and all
Speaker 3: the celebrities to get on the show. They're always like,
Speaker 3: I'm scared of snakes, I'm scared of spiders. But what
Speaker 3: they mean to say is they're scared of not getting
Speaker 3: a paycheck. So they go on these shows pretend to
Speaker 3: be scared from you know, all the creepy callies. But Tristan,
Speaker 3: you actually look like you might have needed a new
Speaker 3: pair of underpants after.
Speaker 2: That, like genuinely terrified.
Speaker 5: I was shaking when we get in and they blindfolded
Speaker 5: straight away and audiom thinking oh no, this is not good.
Speaker 2: And then I hear one of the other girls scream
Speaker 2: and then just like a hiss.
Speaker 5: I'm across and I was like, ah fuck, And I
Speaker 5: knew straight away, and so I'm sat there stiff as anything,
Speaker 5: like genuinely terrified, and I didn't like, I didn't tell
Speaker 5: the producers in the lead up that I was scared
Speaker 5: of them, so that's like, oh, if I do, they'll
Speaker 5: definitely throw one in.
Speaker 2: And so they were like.
Speaker 5: After it, they go they should you should have told us, like,
Speaker 5: we wouldn't have done that to you in the finale,
Speaker 5: and I was like, yes, you would.
Speaker 2: It'd been ten times worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm much bigger snake, like a pit or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, we gave you the smallest one.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't care.
Speaker 5: Well, Like just feeling the weight on your shoulder, you
Speaker 5: can just feel like wrapping around you and like it
Speaker 5: could just choke you out in an instant, like as
Speaker 5: soon as I wanted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did one of those shows once to wrap
Speaker 3: one around my waist and I actually thought I was
Speaker 3: going to pass out, just really quickly. Before we wrap up, Darren,
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, now that you've done
Speaker 3: the show, are there any Australian celebrities. They've announced that
Speaker 3: they're doing a celebrity version again next year. Do you
Speaker 3: have any celebrity mates that you'd like to see take
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 4: I would suggest to all my celebrity mates out there,
Speaker 4: if you are going to do the show, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: do it with your partner. It's a recipe for divorce.
Speaker 1: Ben and Jackie are they okay something I don't know?
Speaker 4: Oh? No, they're great. I mean yeah, I mean they're
Speaker 4: totally choc and cheese, aren't they.
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Ben's just so laid back, he's horizontal. I don't think
Speaker 4: you could ever wind that guy out. He's amazing. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I just imagine you'd be at each other
Speaker 4: throat constantly. I was trying to imagine me doing it
Speaker 4: with my partner. I was like, no way, I'd be
Speaker 4: so infuriated doing with a partner. But I don't know
Speaker 4: who I'd love to see do it. Carla from Banks Time,
Speaker 4: she'd be fun to watch. Benji Mark, Yeah, he'd he'd
Speaker 4: be good at that. He's he'd be very good at that. Actually,
Speaker 4: probably win.
Speaker 1: Who did you clash with? You clash with someone on
Speaker 1: Celebrity Apprentice? So will I feel like Lock was a dick?
Speaker 4: Hey? It's something about these reality show stars I don't
Speaker 4: really seem to blend well with, you know, like the
Speaker 4: George the Georgia's and the Ronnies of the world.
Speaker 3: All righty, before you go, maybe Tristan, you can help
Speaker 3: out with this. But what if something from behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: something that we didn't see that we won't see, kind
Speaker 3: of like a behind the scenes secret about what it's
Speaker 3: like to make the amazing race.
Speaker 5: I think just the genuine friendships that you form off camera,
Speaker 5: like the conversations you have on those long playing journeys
Speaker 5: with people getting to find out about and for me
Speaker 5: like getting talked to Bend about his like I'm bringing
Speaker 5: into fourteen Yanna going through the Olympics since she was
Speaker 5: like thirteen fourteen training the whole way. Hearing about Beck
Speaker 5: and Kate how they've come up as well. Those are
Speaker 5: genuine friendships that we have going forward.
Speaker 3: Did you need to have those face between your uncle
Speaker 3: by the time the show finished, did you say to
Speaker 3: him we need to have some boundaries.
Speaker 2: And we were traveling together straight away?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did. I learned that Tristan has twenty five
Speaker 4: minute showers every morning every night, which I never knew.
Speaker 4: I mean, that guy's wasting fifty minutes a day in
Speaker 4: the shower.
Speaker 2: Could get this? That was the stakes away from you
Speaker 2: I needed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what he was doing in there? What are
Speaker 4: you doing in there? I want to know. There was
Speaker 4: a funny moment and you see this in the episode
Speaker 4: in Penang, and we were basically we got slipped the
Speaker 4: clue under the door and then we had to run
Speaker 4: from the room down the elevators and and we ran
Speaker 4: and George was there right and he's directing the camera
Speaker 4: crew as always because he thought he could do that,
Speaker 4: and he's like, darn, what are you doing? This is
Speaker 4: up my hero shot. Just get moved back, guys, like
Speaker 4: we're going for up. He's like, can you You're just ruining.
Speaker 4: They're not going to use this. This is my hero shot.
Speaker 4: Just move back, guys. Okay, it's just a waste. And
Speaker 4: we're like, okay, bye. We jumped in the lift and
Speaker 4: we're like, see, uh look this is my hero shot.
Speaker 4: Why was he in my hero shot? This is not fair?
Speaker 4: People like George, you're fucking racing mate, Like, what.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about? And they did.
Speaker 4: They didn't use a bit later on in that where
Speaker 4: he's he's talking to me, I was trying to talk
Speaker 4: to because it was the first time we were really
Speaker 4: together within the race, because it was at that shoe thing.
Speaker 4: We haven't really seen them sit in chat within the race,
Speaker 4: and I was, I was, I was talking about it.
Speaker 4: I can't even remember what I said. Oh, it's great. No, no, don't,
Speaker 4: don't don't. We're not going to have a camera on us.
Speaker 4: We need a camera. Where's the cameras camera on us? Like, George,
Speaker 4: you can't actually just have a conversation with somebody without
Speaker 4: a camera on.
Speaker 2: You, prob, what do you do?
Speaker 3: I think that says a lot about how they make Survivor.
Speaker 3: I've been given the wrap up, but I am so
Speaker 3: excited that I got to have this chat with you.
Speaker 3: Congratulations to you both. Yeah, Darren, you make such good television.
Speaker 3: Trist It was really nice to see you with your
Speaker 3: uncle on this show. And thank you for being so
Speaker 3: generous with your time and chatting with me today. It
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: I hope it was a little more peachy than.
Speaker 1: The last Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was, And now I don't have to get out
Speaker 3: the disclaimer at the start, so we.
Speaker 4: Didn't even talk about us eating a massive cock on
Speaker 4: this ship.
Speaker 1: Alright, I'm gonna talk about it.
Speaker 4: I don't mean the bull