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Speaker 1: You can catch Counting Crows at blues Fest April one

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Speaker 1: Good morning, mat How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Good morning? Very well?

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Speaker 4: So, Adam, you are performing with the Doobie Brothers at

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Speaker 3: Is this the first time thing? Or do you go

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Speaker 2: First time I was Boobie Brothers once before we played

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Speaker 2: I don't really know any of them though.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I'm sure we spoke to who, did we,

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Speaker 1: That soul voice.

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Speaker 2: Cool? Yeah, I mean I love the band growing up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Last time they were here, though, brilliant with was when

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Speaker 4: So, Adam, is it true when you did the band's

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Speaker 4: first demo tape Counting Crows. There was a bidding war

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many, but it was sort of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet he And we caught up with David Gray,

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Speaker 1: great another great songwriter, fairly recently. He talked about how

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Speaker 2: Well, I've always felt it's like it's not so much

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Speaker 4: It's obviously a big anniversary this year, thirty years since

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question, and I'm asking

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Speaker 4: But I remember this really clearly. When the album came out.

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Speaker 4: Your lyrics have been described as morose, tortured, and as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair enough. We've just had the Oscars this week,

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Speaker 1: That's funny. I made out here. You're a pretty mean chef.

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Speaker 4: I believe that both of your parents are doctors. How

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, there's a feature just because people want the music.

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Speaker 4: The album August and everything after the debut album. It

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Speaker 1: the Saints, great punk band, a song called just Like

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Speaker 2: And I was just with David a few months ago.

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Speaker 2: We were in before we went on our European tour.

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Speaker 2: We went and stayed out. You get Christmas together, wow,

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Speaker 3: Been great friends.

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing you've heard their cover version of Johnny Mitchell's

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Speaker 4: Both Sides Now that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on that.

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Speaker 3: That is my favorite cover. What a song.

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Speaker 2: It's also part of the warm up songs that we

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Speaker 2: really good friends. So I have dashboarding there and deshwork

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Speaker 2: professional and Gang of Youse play in the hours leading

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Speaker 2: up to our show.

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Speaker 1: We won't in the right way and I love that.

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Speaker 1: But what was the last band or artist T shirt

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Speaker 1: you wore? And it's okay if it's your own merch.

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Speaker 2: I was wearing a Matha Hoople shirt yesterday. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you rocking the Beatles line as well recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my new red one's almost worn out that

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Speaker 1: somebody home.

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Speaker 4: It's still got some life in it yet until it

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Speaker 4: falls apart at the scene.

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Speaker 3: It's okay.

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Speaker 2: I have a great Transformer.

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Speaker 3: Shoot, yeah, yeah, he's got that. That's the one.

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Speaker 1: It's full of holes, but it's like my last Bowie one.

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Speaker 1: I've got to keep it going.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Well, we can't wait to see you at blues Fest

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Speaker 4: April first, with the Doobie Brothers and our own John

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Speaker 4: Butler and Michael Frantie Spearhead and Russell Morris. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for chatting to us today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, Bud, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you did take care