WEBVTT - The Sit-Down with Paolo Lorenzi

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Sitdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Mattrolope from Ozopen dot com and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Viv Christy from Australian Tennis magazine and Matt. This week

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking to Pallo Lorenzi, who has a big

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<v Speaker 2>job right now as tournament director of the Italian Open

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<v Speaker 2>in Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he does. And this is a player who only

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<v Speaker 1>recently retired himself. He was a former world number thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three who played his last match in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and he stayed very connected with Italian tennis. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a man who told us that he warmed up Mateo

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<v Speaker 1>Berettini before the Wimbledon final in twenty twenty one. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's also i think played doubles and trained with Yanix Sinner.

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<v Speaker 1>And he told our colleague Gerson Caderus, who he chatted

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<v Speaker 1>to on the ground in Rome, just exactly the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that Yanick Sinner is having on tennis in Italy. His

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<v Speaker 1>rise to the top of men's tennis. He's Australian Open

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<v Speaker 1>victory has had a massive flow on effect for tennis

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<v Speaker 1>in the country and has led to like a surge

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<v Speaker 1>in interest. So it was really cool to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get his insights about how that's how that's impacting the

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<v Speaker 1>tournament in Rome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Italian tennis, I mean, what a great place

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<v Speaker 2>it's in. Not only have you got Sinner doing so well,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's nine Italian men and five Italian women inside

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<v Speaker 2>the world's top one hundred, so exciting times ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the Davis Cup champions, that the Billy jing Kin

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<v Speaker 1>Cup finalists. And one thing that I thought was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>he said too, was of those Italian men in the

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<v Speaker 1>top one hundred, the majority of them are twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>or under. So you know it means the features bright

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<v Speaker 1>for Italian tennis.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly is. Let's hear what he has to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to start from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was seven eight years old, every year I'm

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<v Speaker 4>from Senna in Toscany, I took the bus with all

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<v Speaker 4>the tennis school and I came in.

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<v Speaker 3>Here to watch all the players.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is for I think almost every tennis player

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<v Speaker 4>in Italy, every kids that's playing tennis, is usually when

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<v Speaker 4>it's wrong time, you're gonna take the bus and it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna come to watch tennis. And I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>the first step that brings you you to dream to

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<v Speaker 4>become a tennis player. And that's why I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>for the federation, but for everyone this tournament is so important.

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<v Speaker 5>And what were your dreams back then?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, on the day I was my dream was

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<v Speaker 4>to become number one in the world. Then you start

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<v Speaker 4>playing your tournaments when you are under twelve and fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>and your dream has become, of course, to be number one.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you know, okay, maybe one day I want

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<v Speaker 4>to play the future. Then I want to play a challenge,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I want to play a TP and then

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<v Speaker 4>you try your best.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think this is the first step, is this

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<v Speaker 3>tournament to room. And I think that what is shame.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the big difference of Rome and of this

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<v Speaker 4>tournament and about the other one thousand is the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you walk a way around, but

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of this tournament, we're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>fifty five thousand kids only for these twelve days. And

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<v Speaker 4>the Federation always start bringing a lot of kids. And

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<v Speaker 4>this is the first step. And then this is the

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<v Speaker 4>first step. The last step is the nex sinner.

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<v Speaker 5>The last step is onix ciner.

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<v Speaker 6>So is this part of the success because you bring

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<v Speaker 6>in so many kids that maybe wouldn't normally be exposed

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<v Speaker 6>to tennis.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this is the part.

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<v Speaker 4>The other one is that in the last twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five years, because I remember was the beginning of Andress

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<v Speaker 4>Spy career, we started to have a lot of challenger

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<v Speaker 4>and future Italy. In one moment, if you were watching calendar,

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<v Speaker 4>we had twenty five challenger and more than three future.

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<v Speaker 4>So what this one doesn't mean that every week you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to have wild car for Italian players that they

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<v Speaker 4>can play this tournament also if they don't have the ranking.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not only them, they're going to bring the coach,

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<v Speaker 4>and the coach they can watch and talk with other

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<v Speaker 4>coaches from other countries.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're going to improve.

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<v Speaker 4>And after twenty years, that's why now the Italian Federation

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<v Speaker 4>have so many good coaches and so many good players.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, and where do you want to go from here?

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<v Speaker 3>Why? If you ask me, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the beginning because we have of course one

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<v Speaker 4>player on the top ten, but three four years ago

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<v Speaker 4>we had also very tiny If you watch right now

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<v Speaker 4>we have Musetti, we have Analdi, we have Cobli, we

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<v Speaker 4>have Nardi. All these players one hundred twenty three years old,

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<v Speaker 4>so we don't know where they're going to go. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that we're going to have another ten twelve years

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<v Speaker 4>and then the goal is to bring more of them

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe in ten years, fifteen years, we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>have I don't know, ten players to fifty why not.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, that's a big goal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, But.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that you have to dream big because if

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<v Speaker 4>you dream big, then at the end you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>have something. And I think that this work, like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>started from the federation twenty years ago. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 4>that it's just started. I'm saying that this process is

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<v Speaker 4>a long process. Day basis are big, so that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I think we can we can have a lot of results.

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<v Speaker 5>What role does the singer play in this whole development?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, in this moment is the most important roles because

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<v Speaker 4>it's the example for the new generation, for the players

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<v Speaker 4>that they are good and they want to become even better.

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<v Speaker 4>And everyone in Italy is watching Ciner So to be

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<v Speaker 4>an example and to be young is not easy, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Yannick Kiss is the right person to

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<v Speaker 4>do that.

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<v Speaker 5>And how do you see that in excitement? In numbers?

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<v Speaker 5>For example, how do you see it.

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<v Speaker 3>In numbers right now, if.

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<v Speaker 4>You see in the audience, a Yani Ciner match is

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<v Speaker 4>like a football match in Italy, and this honey is

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<v Speaker 4>almost never happened in the last three years, and and

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<v Speaker 4>Sena is playing, you have the live score. Whatever in

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<v Speaker 4>ever is the new side in Italy Online everyone is

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<v Speaker 4>talking about if you I don't know, if you walk

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<v Speaker 4>in the street, they're talking why Sina is not down

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<v Speaker 4>number one? How many points he needs? Now everyone is

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<v Speaker 4>talking about tennis. So I think that can bring a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more in the in the tennis in Italy.

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<v Speaker 5>So is it almost competing with football?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that Siner right now maybe can be better

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<v Speaker 4>than football because I think right now is the most

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<v Speaker 4>famous spotsman in Italy. It's like Tomba a few years

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<v Speaker 4>ago or Valentino Rossi.

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<v Speaker 6>As a tennis administrator and as tournament director. Do you

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<v Speaker 6>think players or former players make the best administrators in tennis.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so, because if you think that only

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<v Speaker 4>the format tennis player can do some things, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think is right.

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<v Speaker 3>Season. I think that they know tennis, they know.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit better how to run a tournament because

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<v Speaker 4>they can speak with the players, they know what they need,

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<v Speaker 4>so they have an advantage. I'm not saying that they're

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<v Speaker 4>the only one that they can do that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure they have advantage.

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<v Speaker 6>Now look at the money side of things. This whole excitement,

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<v Speaker 6>this golden era of Italian tennis, has it also brought

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<v Speaker 6>in more money?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, now there are full show most sponsor. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 4>want to be involved in tennis because of course everyone

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<v Speaker 4>is talking about tennis. We just want the Davis Cup

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<v Speaker 4>we made finally in belishing cups, so this must bring

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<v Speaker 4>a sponsor and a lot of people. I think that

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<v Speaker 4>everyone is becoming concentrated on the goal, and the goal

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<v Speaker 4>is to have always top players, because the top players

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<v Speaker 4>bring you more kids and then you have a big base,

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<v Speaker 4>then you're going to have more plays for the future.

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<v Speaker 6>So do you get more requests for tournament sponsors right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>We have ry that this most important tennis channel in Italy,

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<v Speaker 4>they are coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>To put them m on TV again.

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<v Speaker 4>Sponsors want to be part of the wrong tournament, but

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<v Speaker 4>they want to be part of the Devis Cup team

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<v Speaker 4>and all these kind of things. So this of course

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<v Speaker 4>is going to help us, but we need to remain

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<v Speaker 4>focused on the goal.

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<v Speaker 5>Does that also mean the tournament will grow.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, our goal is to grow. The numbers are crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>People want wants to come here, and we are selling

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<v Speaker 4>more tickets and so of course the tournament has grown.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Do better than you every year, but our goal is

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<v Speaker 4>to be a better tourn How about a roof, and

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<v Speaker 4>the roof is I think our most important goal for

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<v Speaker 4>the next years. This is in historical place, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>not easy to change things. They already give us the

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<v Speaker 4>permission to do the roof, but of course you saw

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<v Speaker 4>the petrent records. Everything is sold and historical, so we

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<v Speaker 4>need to have a little bit more permission.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think in the next few years the roof.

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<v Speaker 5>Is going to be ready.

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<v Speaker 6>What about the federation setting up its own tennis channel

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<v Speaker 6>on TV. When did this start and how is this

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<v Speaker 6>part of the success?

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe as well, but this is a big part of

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<v Speaker 7>the success is we have tennis sun is more than

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen years and was the first time that we in

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<v Speaker 7>the last twenty years, we brought tennis on TV on NORMATIV,

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<v Speaker 7>so we brought tennis to all the families in Italy.

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<v Speaker 4>So you are home and you can watch tennis I

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<v Speaker 4>think that that's a big change because you can follow

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<v Speaker 4>your top players. You can follow tennis men's and women,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that is changing slowly, but it changed

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<v Speaker 4>the things. So if you ask me, the first three

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<v Speaker 4>things are a lot of kids, the tennis channel and

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of tournaments. That was the key for the

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<v Speaker 4>grown of the tennis in Italy.

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<v Speaker 5>And Super Tennis is free TV.

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<v Speaker 4>This is free TV, and this is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most important thing because think everyone can watch tennis on

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<v Speaker 4>Super Tennis all day, twenty four hours a.

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<v Speaker 5>Day, and it is a purely federation investment. Is it

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<v Speaker 5>owned by the federation?

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<v Speaker 3>Is owned by the federation.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now you have free all the Challenger, you had

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<v Speaker 4>big tournaments, you have the US Open.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that all these matches you can watch

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<v Speaker 3>for fair.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, that's fantastic. Just got a couple more. Is there

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<v Speaker 6>an Italian way of playing tennis?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that at the beginning, like when I

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<v Speaker 4>was starting to play pro, that was a key moment

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<v Speaker 4>because we were watching Spain or other country like the

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<v Speaker 4>United States, that all the players that were to say

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<v Speaker 4>similar because in the States you serve used four and

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<v Speaker 4>in Spain that was trying to use a lot of spin.

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<v Speaker 4>The Italian Federation. No, we don't have like we have

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<v Speaker 4>a school, but not that we have to follow some rules.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I think it's why we have seen it

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<v Speaker 4>that is playing like this. Then we have Lorenzo Musset

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<v Speaker 4>with one end back, and then we have I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know Cobli that is a fighter, and then every player

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<v Speaker 4>is different.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think also this when it's helping us a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>And you practiced with Singer and Pertini quite a few times, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, We were jogging right now because I warm up

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<v Speaker 4>better till before the finally Winbledon. So it enjoyed the

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<v Speaker 4>lost because it was my fault, I hope, not because

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<v Speaker 4>I always told him that he won the first set

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<v Speaker 4>and it was because he practiced with me.

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<v Speaker 5>What's Sinner blaming you for anything? Siner? Is he blaming

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<v Speaker 5>you for anything as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, the first time that it made semi in ATP

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<v Speaker 4>to fifteen, Anthweb, we played doubles together and we made semis.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think also you have to thanks me a

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<v Speaker 3>lot for this.

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<v Speaker 5>So who was better in practice?

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<v Speaker 4>I have to say that they are completely different players

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<v Speaker 4>because very tiny you, serf. Sometimes I'm telling you you

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<v Speaker 4>know where you're gonna serve, but you can return. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you have seen the intensity when it was already

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen seventeen years old. The intensity that he put on

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<v Speaker 4>courts was unbelilable. It was so focused.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this is why, now who would be the

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<v Speaker 3>next number one of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So Yannick Sinner as the world number one player, Well

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<v Speaker 2>that could prediction could come true as soon as Roland

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<v Speaker 2>Garros with Novak Djokovic defending lots of points as defending

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<v Speaker 2>champion and yes, Sinna with a great opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>There absolutely and I mean we're talking about Novak Djokovic,

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<v Speaker 1>the most dominant number one in tennis history and took

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<v Speaker 1>a back of Carlos Elcarez last year and has held

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<v Speaker 1>on to it ever since. He's been number one for

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<v Speaker 1>well over four hundred weeks. So to have a torch

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<v Speaker 1>passing moment potentially as soon as Roland Garros with Yanick

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<v Speaker 1>Sinner taking it over, that's a pretty interesting plot line.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll be back next week with another episode of

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<v Speaker 2>the sit Down. When we talked to Francesca Schiavoni, a

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<v Speaker 2>former Roland Garros champion and a legend another legend of

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<v Speaker 2>Italian tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>You can listen to John and the team in the

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<v Speaker 1>meantime this Thursday on the AO Show. Weekly and details

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<v Speaker 1>for how to contact Vive and I are in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes below. As always, play, subscribe, rate and review.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week, Viv.

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<v Speaker 2>Look forward to it. Matt Hey